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Boot Mac OS From External SSD HD Enclosure on Older iMac 

Craig Neidel
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This video shows you how to upgrade a 2011 iMac to run on an external ssd hard drive using a Lacie Thunderbolt 1 external enclosure. This is 2018 but you can purchase a 2011 iMac and upgrade to run like a new iMac. This process can increase your hard disk speed from 70 MB/s to over 380 MB/s making your entire Operating System and iMac computer seem like brand new.
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Watch this video with step by step instructions. In this video we purchased a 2011 iMac for $280 and are using a Lacie Thunderbolt 1 external hard drive enclosure with a Samsung Evo 860 EVO SSD hard drive to boot the OS. The entire process takes about 30 minutes and we will take you though the entire process of replacing the HD in the Lacie enclosure all the way to installing the new Operating System (Mac High Sierra) on the External SSD. You don't need to be technical and in about 30 minutes you will have an iMac that seems to run up to 500% faster than the stock hard drive. If you want to make a bootable mac external hard drive watch this video. Watch the video to find out the entire process step by step. Backup your system before starting. Thank you.

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@mrbourru2104
@mrbourru2104 4 года назад
I got the same equipment and followed the instructions and it worked like a charm! It's really like having a brand new iMac. I even used the 2 TB drive as a secondary drive where I put my iTunes library. Thanks a lot for the video, I really appreciate it. Cheers!
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 4 года назад
Thanks and im glad the external boot ssd works good. Yes it is as fast as modern imacs for most things. Thanks for watching and please subscribe if you can.
@swinksstuff
@swinksstuff Год назад
you are a life saver - 2012 hard drive packed it in and this allowed me to get up and running again - still using the spinning hard drive but I will get a SSD in soon, thank you
@craigneidel
@craigneidel Год назад
Thanks for feedback and watching
@songkrodubonsathit9860
@songkrodubonsathit9860 4 года назад
Thanks this video is what i searching for two months to find the way to upgrade my 2011 imac very informative and already subscribed your
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 4 года назад
Thanks for the new words and good luck with everything. I hope the video helped you. Thanks for watching.
@k.b.woodworker3250
@k.b.woodworker3250 3 года назад
This is remarkable! This opens many possibilities. I'm going to look at your other video(s) about doing this for a usb3 connection. This way I can have an external drive for my Mac mini 2012. I know you can stack 2 drives internally, but it looks like a tricky business. I can put a new ssd in place of the existing spinning drive and make an external ssd drive using a standard enclosure. Wonderful ideas on your channel, always useful. Thanks.
@UltraKryptonian
@UltraKryptonian 5 лет назад
Great video! I have that same model of iMac and I use it for the majority of my video editing. This would be a worthwhile upgrade for my system and I really appreciate your tutorial. Your teaching technique is great - Not too fast and to the point. Excellent!!
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 5 лет назад
Thanks for nice comments. Booting off ssd is night and day difference and you can still boot off spinning drive when you need to. I edit videos on my system 1080 with no dropped frames. Thanks for watching.
@christophergribbin3969
@christophergribbin3969 4 года назад
Great tutorial. Just upgraded my 2012 Mac Mini using an external LaCie Thunderbolt SSD and some more ram. Seems like a world of difference.
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 4 года назад
Thanks chris. Im glad it helped and thanks for watching and supporting the channel. We love the feedback.
@ryanransom5101
@ryanransom5101 3 года назад
Life saving video! I have a 2015 IMac with a badly damaged fusion drive. I’m in the process of rebooting it with the external SSD drive, so hopefully it’ll run like new again.
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 3 года назад
Good luck. You can use a good external USB 3 drive and be fine. It will give you a good 350 to 450 Mbps and run actually much faster than the fusion drive. Just keep your other drive so you can boot back into that later if you ever need to but I boot off my externals and have been doing it for a few years now.
@jonathanbailey5896
@jonathanbailey5896 Год назад
Thank you very much for a very concise and good video. Appreciate your hard work in editing that and I'm pleased you had a good system up and running and also good for the environment.
@craigneidel
@craigneidel Год назад
Thanks for watching and the nice words.
@AGR1985
@AGR1985 2 месяца назад
Thanks again just finished setting up my 2011 iMac following your guide using the same modded ssd lacie drive and can confirm it's worked wonders running Monterey via OCLP, boot time down from 1 min 20 to 30 seconds and everything just seems a lot quicker. Cheers 👍
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 2 месяца назад
Nice, and I'm glad it helped out. Thanks for watching.
@psulion101
@psulion101 Год назад
This was just what I was looking for! My 2011 iMac had a hard driver failure (after 12 years of service). After watching your video I picked up the SSD and Lacie external drive you mentioned and after restoring from time machine, I was floored by the performance improvement! Your guidance gave my iMac a whole new life. Seems faster now than what I remember when it was new back in 2011! THANK YOU! 😊
@craigneidel
@craigneidel Год назад
Thanks for watching. That was I think my first video ever or one of them. I now have over 550 so I hope you can sub and find a few more. Thanks again for the feedback and I'm glad it's working good.
@jamierobertson6969
@jamierobertson6969 4 месяца назад
I just discovered this video and am in the same position. 2011 iMac dead hard drive. If my hard drive is dead and I can’t boot the iMac up ( I can get to recovery. Mode) would I have to first install the new OS on the new ssd drive using another computer? Or is this something I can do in disk utility. I might even have the original boot disk somewhere as well.
@GusSilber
@GusSilber 4 года назад
Thank you for your very informative and useful guide!
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 4 года назад
Thanks for the nice comments
@hollywoodheiner6028
@hollywoodheiner6028 3 года назад
I just upgraded my old 2011 iMac exactly how you described: My SSD is now running 3,2x as fast as my old HD! Thank you so much for this awesome and detailed tutorial!! ❤️
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 3 года назад
You are welcome and I hope it helped. Yes, they run quite fast after the upgrade. It's like a brand new system.
@gregallenphoto
@gregallenphoto Год назад
What ssd and enclosure did u use. What are your read write speeds?
@mind-numbingtasks1575
@mind-numbingtasks1575 Год назад
So, I have a mid 2011 27" in which the internal HD failed, then, I stumbled across this video. I have since purchased a Lacie Thunderbolt external 500 GB SSD for $130.00. I installed High Sierra 10.13 from disk on the new drive and I was simply amazed how easy it was and how fast the system runs now. The hardware is still outstanding. Thanks so much for this video because I did not want to do the tear down to install it internally. I realize it would probably work a lot faster installed on the internal bus so might do it later on.
@craigneidel
@craigneidel Год назад
Thanks for sharing that it worked for you. Yes, installing internally is not a bad idea if you want to do that but this tends to be easier for sure. Thank you.
@B_radoncrypto
@B_radoncrypto 3 года назад
Thanks for the video it helped me speed up my Mac big time !!
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 3 года назад
Thanks for watching and for the feedback. I hope it helped.
@SamM-kq7km
@SamM-kq7km 2 года назад
Thanks so much for sharing! Very information. Subscribed!
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 2 года назад
Thanks Nikita for watching.
@allanthompson9695
@allanthompson9695 4 года назад
Cool Video. Very useful information. Cheers. I'll check out some more of your vids.
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 4 года назад
Thanks Allan. Let me know if you want to see any topics and I can cover them in some future videos. Thanks for watch and please subscribe if you haven't as once I get to a 1000 subscribers I'll do a few giveaways for sure.
@paulychannel7914
@paulychannel7914 Год назад
Great information! I was about to buy a new computer when I stumbled upon your video. My 2011 Imac still works well but is slow..... So.... instead of paying $2000 or more for a new Imac I have managed to procure the lacie thunderbolt enclosure & samsung 860 evo 500gb SSD for AUD $250. I also decided to upgrade the RAM from 4gb to 12gb with 2 new modules ( cost AUD$80) , which I'll do first when they arrive. ... Looking forward to making this all happen when my new parts arrive ! I'm not a computer geek so didn't want to pull the Imac apart just to install a new SSD ! So.... THANKYOU .....saved me a LOT of money & I'll post an update when I've successfully installed everything.
@craigneidel
@craigneidel Год назад
Thanks and good luck with everything. Wish you the best
@MauiZamoraStudio
@MauiZamoraStudio 4 года назад
Thank you for sharing this information! All the best to your channel!
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 4 года назад
Thanks again for the nice words and watching the video on booting from external SSD. I hope it helps.
@colemanderek2738
@colemanderek2738 3 года назад
I realize Im pretty off topic but does anyone know a good place to stream new movies online ?
@demetriushunter1794
@demetriushunter1794 3 года назад
@Coleman Derek Try FlixZone. Just search on google for it :)
@curtisjuelz2327
@curtisjuelz2327 3 года назад
@Coleman Derek i watch on Flixzone. Just google for it :)
@PeteMOBie1
@PeteMOBie1 2 года назад
Just bought a 27 inch 2011 i5 3.1 GHz Quadcore machine for £136 (included next day delivery via courier). Your video has given me an alternative way to run the iMac from an SSD without the hassle of opening up the mac to replace the conventional hard disk drive. Thanks
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 2 года назад
Good luck and that's for feedback
@AGR1985
@AGR1985 2 месяца назад
Thanks for this video was looking for a external solution as didnt fancy opening up the imac to replace the internal drive, just picked 2 of these Lacie drives up for a great price on ebay looking forward to this upgrade
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 2 месяца назад
Ok, and good luck with things. Make sure they are the Thunderbolt version of the drives.
@fakingfrench
@fakingfrench 5 лет назад
Thanks this was extremely helpful! My imac hd was failing and now I can bring it back to life.
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 5 лет назад
Thanks Krystal for watching and the nice words. I hope it can help a few people bring these expensive systems back to life.
@RajVeer87156
@RajVeer87156 4 года назад
@@craigneidel great tutorial....i have a question please. I have a mid 2011 21.5 inch iMac, I would like to install Windows 10 on an external ssd/hdd, will this procedure work? Thanks for answering
@newbeginnings8566
@newbeginnings8566 3 года назад
Excellent, useful video.. I've seen most people velcro these modules to the Imac stand at the back - everything, near and hidden .. Also without the shock rubber mounting is best..
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 3 года назад
Yes, and thanks for the info. I have a system that I mounted to back and they even sell metal parts that can be mounted back there. Thanks for watching Mark.
@qsam14
@qsam14 9 месяцев назад
This is exactly what I was looking for! I just recovered my 2011 iMac. It was sitting in a corner collecting dust. I decided to make some use of it as a hobbyist. Currently running 4GB RAM and a 500GB HDD on High Sierra. It’s barely operable. I didn’t want to take my iMac apart to install an internal SSD so this is a great alternative. I’m surprised at the speeds you got. Redditors say that external SSD speeds would still be slow but this proves otherwise!
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 9 месяцев назад
Yes but you need to use that external enclosure like I did and replace HDD with SSD. It's then very good. Thanks for watching.
@stu-pid_66
@stu-pid_66 Год назад
Just did this and it works perfect on my late 2013 iMac! Thank you
@craigneidel
@craigneidel Год назад
Great, I hope it helps and thanks for watching. That will make a big difference for sure.
@mikegord
@mikegord 4 года назад
I did this minus the Thunderbolt enclosure - just an old USB 2 enclosure I had in a draw and a old 120GB SSD. Dramatic improvement in boot and program response times. Hands shake from CHOP in 2003 and 2012 so no iMac surgery for me on my 2009 iMac.
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 4 года назад
Thanks for posting and your experience with that. It helps out people who are trying this. I'm glad is helped. Thanks for watching.
@ricardovarela8547
@ricardovarela8547 7 дней назад
Great idea!! I have tried different linux flavors and pretty much it also runs pretty nicely, thanks for the tip on opening the lacie it worked like a charm
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 6 дней назад
Thanks for watching the channel.
@arty19390
@arty19390 4 года назад
Craig, One of the BEST instructional videos I’ve seen. Found your channel because of problems installing Samsung 860 as external boot and storage. Talked w mfr and apple and other you tube authors.Do you think tats a workable solution. but still no success. What I did pickup was from your great video is to step back from MOHAVE and reinstall another version of SIERRA.
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 4 года назад
Thanks for the nice words Arty. I hope it helps you out and thanks for watching. I make videos on all types of things from Apple to investing so if interested I would love to have you as a subscriber. Thanks again and I'm glad it helped you out. No reason to sped so much on an iMac when you can get a pretty quick one using this method.
@jprpjr33
@jprpjr33 3 года назад
Thanks for making this easy!!
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 3 года назад
You are welcome and thanks for watching and supporting the channel. I hope it helped.
@minorrhoads5318
@minorrhoads5318 Год назад
Brilliant , very helpful , subscribed . cheers .
@craigneidel
@craigneidel Год назад
Thanks for the nice words and sub.
@sjsu2
@sjsu2 4 месяца назад
Thanks for this. I have and frequently come across a lot of old legacy Macs without usb 3. Was unsure if the Lacie drive you suggested could be upgraded to an ssd, but seeing is believing.
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 4 месяца назад
Yes, the very old thunderbolt connection works if you can find one of the old Lacey drives like I had in the video. And you can replace the drives (then format it).
@epulatov
@epulatov 3 года назад
Hey @Craig Thank you very much for your video! Don't you mind to make video how to use older mac or macbook as secondary display to your primary macbook?
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 3 года назад
I will look into that for a video topic. Thanks for watching Erkinjon.
@nickwilliams6750
@nickwilliams6750 4 года назад
Worked a treat Thank you
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 4 года назад
Thanks for watching and supporting the channel. I'm glad booting from an external SSD for your iMac worked out. Thanks Nick.
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 5 лет назад
Yes i think there is a video on that maybe search for it. As long as a soild 10gbps connection to fast ssd i dont see why it wont work. I just cant confirm end speeds with that device. Any ssd and external should work but it comes down to speed
@davidmorris4245
@davidmorris4245 3 года назад
Hi Craig. Thanks for your very informative video. I was contemplating installing a new SSD internally but this seems a whole lot easier. 2 questions please? Is Thunderbolt 2 or 3 enclosure ok with a 2010 iMac ie backwards compatible and if I use a larger SSD and clone the whole drive then all my apps/programs will all be on the SSD and will save having to re-install everything and can use as before but a whole lot faster?
@brucesaxton3625
@brucesaxton3625 4 года назад
Super Craig!!!!!!!!! My Mac lives again!!!!!!
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 4 года назад
Thanks Bruce. Yes, it works pretty good and load times should really come down. Thanks for posting your experience.
@Mcsteveberry
@Mcsteveberry 4 года назад
i subbed, you legend.
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 4 года назад
Thanks for watching and supporting the channel.
@keithrodgers1030
@keithrodgers1030 5 лет назад
Great video, I did an upgrade to a 2nd hand late 2009 Imac. Removed the 1TB internal hard drive and replaced it with 1TB ssd. While I had the display out I also removed the dvd data drive and installed a 250gb ssd in that bay. Installed OSX on the smaller drive and partitioned the big drive. Intention is to install windows 10 on one partition when I get chance. Removed the video card and heat sink and rebedded the heat sink too. The machine is fast when I put larger ram chips in it finished the upgrade off. Worth doing if you have the patience.
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 5 лет назад
Thanks for sharing your experience with the upgrades. It sounds like you removed the screen and put this all in internally. It's amazing how fast the older iMacs can be if you just replace the hard disk and ram. I used an external SSD because of the 10 Gbps port on the 2001 model which makes it a bit easier to do because I know removing the glass can be a job. Thanks for your post.
@keithrodgers1030
@keithrodgers1030 5 лет назад
@@craigneidel the biggest fear is breaking the glass because the magnets are powerful. The old hard drives generate a ton of heat, the fans hardly run now. Its worth doing it, do u know about the problem with the video cards ?
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 5 лет назад
Yes, I know the 2010 and 2011s had some issues with the video cards etc. and I think a ton burnt out. I do agree that opening the screen is the best way to upgrade if you can do it. I was just providing an easier way to upgrade to an SSD without the screen removal but fully understand it makes sense to do that if you can swing it.
@Photographyandvideo
@Photographyandvideo 3 года назад
Fantastic. Very helpful.
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 3 года назад
Thanks. I have a few other videos on that topic with examples if you browse my videos. Thanks for watching.
@zedking5569
@zedking5569 4 года назад
Great video , This will save me the nightmare of replacing the hard disk , I thought I would be using my 2.0 regular USB connector to my SDD but the speed test was like 30 :). then the thunderbolt is a must have.
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 4 года назад
Yes, if you use that external enclosure with the thunderbolt connection you can get speeds around 350 to 400 Mbps. It's a great solution. You can find them used on eBay for under $100 but you need to look around to find them. Thanks for watching.
@Ljcameron96
@Ljcameron96 4 года назад
Thanks so much, this has saved me so much money and effort. Just a quick question for future reference tho can you do it without the Lacie ? as I've got a spare hdd now.
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 4 года назад
Thanks for watching. No the lacie has the Thunderbolt 1 connection which is required for speed to ssd. So that is needed for it to be fast enough. If you find another thunderbolt 1 external that might work but i only tested the lacie.
@Ljcameron96
@Ljcameron96 4 года назад
@@craigneidel Thanks!
@danielgarciea4410
@danielgarciea4410 3 года назад
Thanks for the great video Craig! Would love to know if you think an NVME drive with case will even be faster on a late 2012 Imac. Thanks so much!
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 3 года назад
Just remember to use the fasted port. you have to connect to the drive. On a 2012 I still think it is Thunderbolt but it would be hard to find an enclosure for cheap with Thunderbolt 2. You might want to use the USB ports on that model (2012) but would only get a max of about 500 MB/s. But, it would be much cheaper to find an external SSD on USB vs. Thunderbolt 2.
@eduardowatkinz
@eduardowatkinz 4 года назад
Another OSX install option to retain current software is to use Carbon Copy Cloner, can be used free for non-commercial use.
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 4 года назад
Thanks for the info Eduardo. Yes, I have used that before and it works great. Thanks for watching.
@Meagain921
@Meagain921 4 года назад
Good tute...thanks .
@chrisc9300
@chrisc9300 Год назад
Great video, totally worked on my late 2013 IMAC! Thank you! Now how long do you think it will last once the software stops being updated?
@craigneidel
@craigneidel Год назад
As long as your comfortable using it. Thanks for watching.
@skionen1781
@skionen1781 4 года назад
Wow thanks for posting
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 4 года назад
Thanks for watching Skione
@monicatmcg
@monicatmcg Год назад
Thanks for the great video, Craig. I have a late 2012 iMac and found other videos to add an external SSD (replacement to internal) drive. I wonder if you think the (left-inside HD) could be used as an extra TimeMachine backup drive?
@craigneidel
@craigneidel Год назад
Yes, for sure. If you have a 2012 then you have a USB port that is faster than what's on the 2011 iMac. So you can boot off an external drive that plugs into the USB port instead of using Thunderbolt. That will save you quite a bit of money. After you start booting off the external SSD you can always use the drive inside the iMac for things like TimeMachine etc. It will show up as a drive but just not the boot drive. I normally just leave them alone as then you can always boot back into that drive at any time (I don't erase them). But you can erase or even just leave alone so you can always boot back into it but still store files on it.
@Samlol23_drrich
@Samlol23_drrich 4 года назад
Very well done.
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 4 года назад
Thanks very much. Happy new year
@strangecodes
@strangecodes 3 года назад
I am currently bidding on a LaCie 4TB external rugged Hard Drive. Few hours left. I am going to win it. Then, grab a 1TB internal SATA SSD. Then do this. Then my Mid 2011 iMac will purr like a baby. ;-) great video, thanks!
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 3 года назад
Make sure it is Thunderbolt 1 (connection type) plus you need to replace the 4TB drive and put in the SSD drive. So there is no need to buy such a large drive. It's just the Thunderbolt connection that matters and then replace with Samsung SSD like I did in video. If you just get the Lacie 4TB and that is a 5400 or 7200 spinning drive it would be slower. Thanks.
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 3 года назад
I have a video a bit before that one that shows you how to replace the drive and step by step instructions. So make sure you watch that video. It was one of my first videos I made.
@strangecodes
@strangecodes 3 года назад
@@craigneidel I think it’s thunderbolt 1 but it could be thunderbolt 2, in either case it will give the computer a kick 🦵 anyway man if I do it. Maybe not 5 times faster, but much faster tho.
@strangecodes
@strangecodes 3 года назад
Unless I’m missing something - can I just buy an ‘enclosure’ with the thunderbolt cable integrated? I thought this LaCie 4TB rugged was one of the only options left. Confirm. Deny?
@fredlavenuta5857
@fredlavenuta5857 2 года назад
I tried to do the same thing with my 2008 iMac, patched to run Mac OS 10.14. Booting from an external SSD was slow and disappointing. The USB 2 ports are just too slow. I opened the iMac and installed the SSD and the difference was very satisfying. I do boot my late 2015 iMac (with USB 3.0 ports) from an external USB drive and it works well, very usable.
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 2 года назад
Thanks. Yes anything older than 2011 imac won't work as USB ports are too slow and no thunderbolt.
@paulpeters_PBP
@paulpeters_PBP 2 года назад
Good afternoon Craig I too followed your very informative video and YES, the results are not short of amazing! Thank you for taking the time to create the post - it's much appreciated. In my case, I used what I had on-hand for the transformation of my late 2012 iMac 27" (running Catalina) with 32GB RAM and only 1GB of VRAM. I downloaded Catalina from the app store and installed on a USB 3 -Samsung SSD T5 2TB unit. I ran BlackMagic on the SSD and I'm seeing speeds in the low 400MB range which is well beyond the what I was seeing on the old / original HD. The only thing I use the iMac for it to run Adobe Creative Cloud (Photography) and as you can imagine, everything was painfully slow on the old HD. Now my question is should I install Creative Cloud and any other apps I use on the boot SSD -- or would you suggest keeping them where they are on the old HD? Paul
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 2 года назад
Thanks for the feedback. When you boot off the SSD apple sees that as a completely new computer. So if you move apps to the SSD it will count as new computer so you might then need to uninstall from old boot drive for licensing reasons. But I run all my apps on the new bootable SSD since they will run much faster for you. I leave the old boot drive operational so you could boot back to it if needed in emergency but normally install all apps on new SSD. It's basically a new computer when you boot off ssd. Hope that helps.
@paulpeters_PBP
@paulpeters_PBP 2 года назад
@@craigneidel Thank you for your speedy reply. I have just installed all the Adobe applications on the new drive -- and not surprisingly, they run so very much quicker - almost like a new computer. Going through your entire process has given a huge boost to an otherwise nearly dead-end machine
@paulychannel7914
@paulychannel7914 Год назад
OK! Did everything you said to plug in "NEW" samsung SSD drive using the Lacie enclosure .... easy peasy ( thanks to your video), however I decided to use a different method of installing the SSD using DIsk Utility & " recovery mode" on my Imac which worked perfectly by copying the internal hard drive to the external SSD. My 2011 Imac is 3-4 times faster now & boots off the external SSD..... THANKYOU VERY MUCH, !..... coz I was " considering" buying a new Imac ...... Now I don't have to!!!
@craigneidel
@craigneidel Год назад
Thanks for sharing the success. Yes, it's easy and you can get the OS back on there a few different ways. My method provides you with basically a new mac and you reload apps ect. I just leave the older drive alone so I can boot back into it if need be but others reformat the older drive etc. Thanks for sharing how you did it and watching. Hope you can sub if not already.
@paulychannel7914
@paulychannel7914 Год назад
@@craigneidel Yes I already subbed! Still can't believe how fast my ( Obsolete , according to Apple) Imac is running now. Bootup used to take 4 minutes to get to an open RU-vid page, now its less than 30 seconds. Before I upgraded did a blackmagic speed test on the spinning hard drive & was getting an average of 60 Mbps......... NOW the SSD is running at an average of 350Mbps via the thunderbolt drive! As you probably know it's virtually impossible to find a thunderbolt 1/2 " adapter" ,......so your video was invaluable to me! .....RESPECT!!!
@craigneidel
@craigneidel Год назад
@@paulychannel7914 thanks for feedback and I'm glad it worked out good.
@Elizabeth-ev6ep
@Elizabeth-ev6ep 3 года назад
Great video thanks!!!! Just one question , would it work putting in a samsung 500 gb instead of a 250 gb?
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 3 года назад
The size of the drive won't matter as long at it is an SSD and you use that Thunderbolt enclosure since the enclosure provides the speed to the SSD. That is the key part. Thanks for watching.
@chachreyes2102
@chachreyes2102 4 года назад
Craig, hey, thanks for the video. Question, will this work for an external SSD (4TB) with a USB 3.0 instead of the Thunderbolt? Or would it defeat the purpose? Thx 🙏
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 4 года назад
A 2011 imac doesn't have USB 3.0 and it only has Thunderbolt one which is fast enough for this to work. The usb it does have is super slow. So that is really your only option is to use the Thunderbolt if you're using an iMac from 2011 and want to boot from external ssd. Thanks for watching.
@christophermcleod6536
@christophermcleod6536 5 лет назад
Thank you.
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 5 лет назад
Your welcome Christopher
@alanabley525
@alanabley525 3 года назад
Great videos. I cloned everything from my hard drive to a Samsung T7 thru the USB 2.0 port as some videos have shown this to give good speeds but it's slower than my internal drive. If I can get the Thunderbolt enclosure do I move applications to it and do I need to also have my files on it to gain the benefit ? Thanks.
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 3 года назад
I just noticed I never responded and I wanted to say thanks for the nice words. Good luck with everything.
@janaksodha9582
@janaksodha9582 3 года назад
Thank you for the fey detailed systematic explanation. My current old iMac 2010 fans make a lot of noise. They are on always. If I boot from n external SSD, will that stop the fans spinning? I have tried the usual software hacks to control the fan speed with no success.
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 3 года назад
I don't think it will unless you remove the internal SSD and boot from the external ssd. The internal SSD will still be usable and you can boot back into when you boot from an external so I don't think it will solve your issue.
@Moshie71
@Moshie71 2 года назад
Great post, Thank you! I’ve watched few of these now and am slightly confused. I want to upgrade the storage on a late 2013 27” iMac (so I can boot externally). Some videos recommend using a SSD and an enclosure, while others just use a SSD (e.g. Sandisk or Samsung) is there a difference?
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 2 года назад
Putting the SSD in the actual computer is better but also tricky as you need to open up the screen and know how to replace it etc. The external SSD is a way to do this without that but it is not as good as a direct connection into the motherboard. It's a trade off. Thanks for watching.
@paschal77
@paschal77 2 года назад
Thanks, this is a great tutorial. I have a late 2013 iMac 21.5 with thunderbolt 1 and usb3, I’m wondering with you would recommend using for boot up
@codraven57
@codraven57 2 года назад
I have a Late 2012 and am wondering the same thunderbolt vs usb ???? Anyone know which is best and cheapest route to go?
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 2 года назад
I always say go with the fastest port and SSD you can attach. The big difference with your machine is it's a 2013 and not a 2011. So if you have a usb3 port you can find those enclosures much cheaper and put a SSD in the enclosure. Even if you are getting 400 MB/s it will be a world of difference to a spinning drive for sure. Just leave your current drive (don't reformat) and you can always boot back tot that drive if you want to.
@paschal77
@paschal77 2 года назад
could I use a portable ssd like a Samsung t7 1tb, it has a usb3.2 but I believe it would be backward compatible thanks
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 2 года назад
@@paschal77 Yes, something like that should work. I have not tried it personally but know of people who have and it worked for them.
@ThomasGifford
@ThomasGifford 4 года назад
Very helpful - thanks! Is it also beneficial to copy (or move?) all of my apps to the SSD? Also, will there be any complications have the Mac OS of both the internal drive and the SSD drive - maybe updates will get confused or something?
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 4 года назад
Hello Tom. When you install the OS on and external SSD (using Thunderbolt) it is just like a new operating system install. So any apps would need to be reinstalled on the new SSD. Also, once you change the iMac to boot off the SSD it doesn't use the internal drive any longer when you boot up. You can still save files to the older internal drive but it is an extra drive at that point. You can either leave the internal drive as is with the OS for later and choose to boot from that drive later or reformat that (after all data is off) and use as a file or backup drive. Since the two are unrelated there should be no complications and you can choose to boot from either one. The external SSD is really a completely different setup and you could unhook that drive and move it to another different iMac (like a friends) then boot to that drive and it's like your computer is there even though it on a different iMac. So think of this as a completely new setup that could even be mobile if you wanted it to be. But it sure makes systems faster. For example you can purchase an older Mac Mini too and boot from an external SSD (with a fast interface). The reason you need the fast interface is so that you get at least 350 mbps which will be much faster than a spinning drive and make the system faster. Sorry for the long email and thanks for watching.
@ThomasGifford
@ThomasGifford 4 года назад
@@craigneidel Craig - thanks for the clear, detailed answer. I think that an external SSD is in my future...
@MattP-oz6ps
@MattP-oz6ps 8 месяцев назад
Put Open Core Legacy Patcher (OCLP) your iMac, this will allow you to run MacOSX Sonoma, and it does not slow down the machine. For your iMac model, its easy to open up and install a new ssd, but for the newer models you have to cut the adhesive all the way around which could fracture the screen. The speed improvement is awesome, I'm curious if you accidentally unplugged the ssd from the thunderbolt if it would corrupt the os.
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 8 месяцев назад
Thanks for watching. Yes, I have used Open Core many times but this is an older video and another way to update the older iMacs. I'm not sure about pulling the cable but I'm guessing it should recover. I think I had a power cut once and it was fine.
@vikkigalloway
@vikkigalloway 3 года назад
Hi Craig, Thanks for the video, you make it look easy, however, I've hunted high and low for an SSD drive that uses a thunderbolt 1 port with no luck. Can I use an SSD and just use USB to do the same thing? I have a mid 2011 27inch iMac that I would like to keep but make it less 'steam driven'.
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 3 года назад
You can't use the USB ports on those older systems since the speed of USB back then was way too slow. So even if the external ssd and enclosure is fast the usb port can't push the data. You need to use Thunderbolt 1 on those older systems and find the enclosure I talked about. They made a few others with a Thunderbolt 1 port on the external enclosure (one was called storagejet) but they are indeed harder to find now. Thanks for watching Vikki.
@konsta9536
@konsta9536 3 года назад
Great thanks !
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 3 года назад
Thanks for watching and the nice words.
@MFGFILMS1
@MFGFILMS1 4 года назад
Hi, first of all thank you so much for you amazing idea! I see you’re using model STFS2000800 do you know if similar model Thunderbolt & USB 3.0 1TB Portable Hard Drive model STEV1000400 which also has thunderbolt connected to enclosure works too?
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 4 года назад
If it is thunderbolt 1 then it should work. I just have not tried that one but all you need is the fast connection to the SSD and enclosure and nothing special with that. So I do think it will work fine. Thanks.
@dh2032
@dh2032 2 года назад
@@craigneidel ​ question: do you need the fast connection, USB3 with the slower USB's work also, but a a slower speed, which would be understandable? I am trying to do the something, but it won't recognise the drive at the boot time menu, sometimes I do get, a one line of text, top left of screen say ".....windows..." , the has been used on a windows PC before, and formatted for a PC it will boot PC from a USB port okay, boot when formatted as a MAC, nothing?
@dh2032
@dh2032 2 года назад
does it have to be SSD drive and not a spinning Rust, mechanical HD disk drive?
@rkvt
@rkvt 2 года назад
I am looking for one of the Lacie enclosures w thunderbolt 1 (for a late 2012 21" Imac) on Ebay. The descriptions all say Thunderbolt but not whether it's 1 or 2 or maybe 3? If I try a Crucial 2TB SSD (in its own enclosure) on one of the plain old USB ports, will I still see an improvement? The internal drive is a 1TB spinner and it's not bad but it slows down on some tasks and so I am looking to keep the machine running (great screen and camera/sound) Loved the video!
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 2 года назад
Yes, if you have a 2012 then it should have a faster usb port than the 2011 had. The reason you had to use the Thunderbolt port on the 2011 is the usb ports were very slow. Of course using Thunderbolt in any situation will be faster than usb if you can find an enclosure like that since it is a faster connection to the enclosure. You need to make sure it's an SSD in the enclosure (not spinning drive) also since that is the other part that speeds everything up. Thanks.
@rkvt
@rkvt 2 года назад
@@craigneidel Thanks for the reply. I gave up on finding a La Cie enclosure and going that route. I used a Western Dig 2TB SSD external (really small thing -- just bigger than a credit card) which I'd bought to back up a PC hard drive and tried it via the USB on the Imac. It took me a bit to figure out how to clone as the format for the internal had 2 volumes. It worked out OK.... the speed (using black magic as a tester) is much faster on reads and writes. Boot up is quicker but it's the speed w which apps load. I think having a faster drive for caches also makes some of my apps run faster. The SSD doesn't appear to heat up and is, of course, silent. Thanks for the good video which was exceptionally clear on the process. The SSD speeds on blackmagic are in the low 400s but the internal spinner was about 35-40 so it was really lugging. Cheers.
@javierr3515
@javierr3515 3 года назад
Thank you for the video. I have a 2011 iMac and I opened it to change the hdd to an ssd. I think this is a much better solution. Could you run all the time the computer from the external hard drive??? Now I bought a 2017 base model with hdd; what do you sugget for this one?? perhaps boot from external with thunderbolt 3 and ssd nvme?? it could be much easier than openning the display....
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 3 года назад
The problem if you have a 2011 is you need an external SSD enclosure that is Thunderbolt 1 and there are only a few. So going with an NVME isn't really an option unless you can find a Thunderbolt 1 to NVME enclosure. So about the best you can get with the enclosure I listed in that 400 Mbps but it makes a huge difference for sure in load times and just everyday work. If you can open it up that is best but for those that don't want to then an external SSD can work.
@TechyMechie
@TechyMechie 4 года назад
Great video. Can I format my original drive in the iMac after doing this?
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 4 года назад
Yes, but make sure you have all your data off of the drive first. I actually don't reformat the main drive. I leave it so I can boot from that drive again if I want to boot into it in the future - like having two different computers. You can access that original drive also using Finder when on the external drive so maybe just create a folder on the older drive and use that to backup files if you need to. That way you don't need to reformat it and can boot back into the original drive But, if you want to reformat it you can do that for sure. Just make sure you selected the new drive (external drive) to boot into using the Start Up icon (under preferences) in MacOS before you wipe the older drive. Once your mac has learned to boot to the new drive you can reformat the older drive.
@TechyMechie
@TechyMechie 4 года назад
@@craigneidel thanks for the answer. If that wont cause problems, i will leave it too
@raficknaseeven1352
@raficknaseeven1352 4 года назад
Hi Craig I left my iMac 2011 aside for a long time after getting my MacBook Pro 2012. While upgrade of the latter is easy. I was very worried at opening the iMac. Thanks for this quick bypass and easy fix. I cannot get the iMac to boot completely because of some ? Folder appearing. I have the original cd but it does not read it. Can I use my MacBook Pro to download the os and boot from it.
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 4 года назад
I'm not sure what that error is but the folder icon usually means a bad hard drive. Yes, you should be able to load MacOS maybe on something like a SD card and then try and use that to install the OS on the external drive. I have not done this but I would research that file icon to first see how to fix that and then you can follow the video to boot off the external drive. Thanks Rafick.
@dandanghibrid6336
@dandanghibrid6336 7 месяцев назад
Awesome… thx bro
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 7 месяцев назад
Thanks for watching. That's an old video but still works.
@RaviAnandNaidu
@RaviAnandNaidu 4 года назад
What is the RAM size that it has when you bought it and did you do any modifications to that as well to make it run more smoothly? Also would it be possible to have the processor switched out on some of these old models?
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 4 года назад
No, it is only 8 GB and I didn't do any upgrades. I might soon and may test again. You can go up to about 32 GB I think on these and also change out the CPU but the CPU would require you to open up the screen which is always a risk. The ram is easy to upgrade on the outside. Thanks for watching.
@playmode3976
@playmode3976 3 года назад
Hi this is great info ! Can this be done on mid 2010 imac ? With lion osx on the external drive ?
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 3 года назад
Not really. The 2011 imac has thunderbolt and you need that connection since usb was too slow on the 2011 imac. The 2010 doesn't have thunderbolt. You need a fast connection to external drive. So 2011 is really oldest imac you can get good results with.
@playmode3976
@playmode3976 3 года назад
Thanks for your reply
@wastedtalentusa
@wastedtalentusa Год назад
Awesome video. Thank you so much. I have a question, my iMac is late 2015. Is it really faster and safe to run Photoshop, Adobe Premiere, Lightroom, and the whole system through USB 3.0 connection? Is the USB port really that stable? I really want to do this upgrade, but I would like to make sure that an USA connection really can handle everything like the internal connections. Than you so much.
@craigneidel
@craigneidel Год назад
For sure it is. Thanks for watching.
@eamesBot
@eamesBot 4 года назад
Thanks so much for sharing this. I'm about to set up the nvme ssd to boot my iMac. would love to hear the stability of using external drive for boot Mac OS for long run. is it still work well? thanks again.
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 4 года назад
I have external SSDs (running the OS) on about 4 different iMacs and Mac minis and I've had no issues at all. I have been running for about 2 years. Again, I can speak of all cases but I use them from everything from video editing to browsing and they all work fine over the years. Thanks for the question.
@eamesBot
@eamesBot 4 года назад
@@craigneidel Thanks so much for your reply.
@kirelight6255
@kirelight6255 3 года назад
Thank You!
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 3 года назад
Thanks for watching the channel.
@alcylon
@alcylon 3 года назад
Thanks. Could you please post links to ebay or amazon wich lacie disk I should look fore. Have a ultimo imac 2013
@harishgupta7873
@harishgupta7873 3 года назад
Hi Thanks for the video. It was very informative. I have a question, could you please help me? I am planning to use external SSD (as shown in video) for my late 2015 21.5" iMac. Could you please suggest what is the best option (thunderbolt/usb enclosure and cable) and how to do it? Regards
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 3 года назад
Hello Harish. Thanks for watching and the nice comment. I always just say go with the fast port on your mac, the fastest cable to the external ssd, and the fastest SSD you can get. For instance. make sure the external enclosure is 10 Gbps not the 5 Gbps etc. but even if you don't have a port available the 5 Gbps port will still work but top you off in that 500 MB/s range. So you can use any external enclosure on the 2015. On the 2011 iMac in my video I had to use the Thunderbolt 1 port since the other ports are older USB and very slow so the Thunderbolt was the only one I could use.
@harishgupta7873
@harishgupta7873 3 года назад
@@craigneidel thanks a lot.
@user-fi9dk3gt6d
@user-fi9dk3gt6d 4 года назад
Excellent video, quick question does the ssd drive have to be a Samsung 860 Evo? Thanks for your time
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 4 года назад
No but same type ssd should work. I just found samsung usually always work great but any ssd to fit enclosure that is ssd should work.
@user-fi9dk3gt6d
@user-fi9dk3gt6d 4 года назад
@@craigneidel ok, have you seen the Transcend StoreJet 500 1TB Portable SSD it has both USB 3 and thunderbolt connections all in one so need need to purchase two separate devices, what do you think?
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 4 года назад
@@user-fi9dk3gt6d i think i saw a video on youtube where they use that so it should work good as long as it has Thunderbolt. I do think they are expensive though. Thanks for watching.
@neekrusher2085
@neekrusher2085 4 года назад
Thank you for this video. I will try this option so I can retire my 2009 iMac.
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 4 года назад
Let us know how it goes. Thanks for watching.
@connorthompson7020
@connorthompson7020 4 года назад
How did it go
@waleedahmad5400
@waleedahmad5400 4 года назад
Thanks for the video. How about your files, do you keep them on the original old HDD? The SSD is a smaller capacity. What happens if you unplug the Thunderbolt? Does it reboot on the original?
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 4 года назад
I usually just keep the original drive in there so I can boot to the original if I need to later. Then I boot to the new external SSD and set that up so it does it automatically. You can still save files to the older spinning drive or access that at any time. You can also re-boot into the older drive at any time by just changing the boot drive. Maybe once you make sure everything is working perfect you can decide if you wanted to remove the spinning drives OS but I usually keep it on there just in case and use it from time to time. thanks again for watching.
@wud47b
@wud47b 3 года назад
@@craigneidel I have been using Time Machine to back up the iMac to a backup disk (called External B) and I would like to continue backing up to that same drive (External B). Can you back up this new external ssd to that external drive (External B)?
@SethKerechanin
@SethKerechanin 4 года назад
Hey Craig. Great video. One problem - I’m using a 2018 iMac Pro when trying to install High Sierra on the ssd prior to putting it into my old 2011 iMac. I cannot open the High Sierra iOS file - my newer computer says the os is outdated and will not let me proceed. Have you seen this before?
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 4 года назад
Can't you download it on the 2011 imac like I had done in the video and then install on external SSD. I have not done it your way only the way in the video. So I know that way works good. Thanks and if I find anything on this I'll update this message.
@gimbalair
@gimbalair 3 года назад
Same boot as a lot of people, my iMac is bullet proof but showing it’s age. This is perfect for me. Is there a way to choose the start up drive at boot, ie I’ll keep the internal hard for the family and use the external hard drive me me. Be good if we choose at boot up.
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 3 года назад
You can change the boot drive when closing down the iMac so it boots the the drive you want it to next. If you are using a 2011 iMac then just make sure you use that specific Thunderbolt 1 enclosure and SSD since USB isn't fast enough on 2011s. If you have a 2012 or newer you can use USB instead.
@scotplad
@scotplad 2 года назад
Can you make a bootable external hard drive with catalina or higher to over ride an old mac book that has 10.7.7 ? I cant seem to get past the lock outs, can you show a strait install to a external that will boot up on my old mac book with Catalina or a higher os ??? thanks just could use some strait forward applications with out allways geting a flash stick.....
@HorshamHector
@HorshamHector 5 лет назад
I have a 2012 iMac 27" with a 3TB fusion drive. It has become very slow. I've bought a 1TB external SSD to boot from in order to speed up my Mac. I do have Carbon Copy Cloner. I'm confused as to whether if I clone my existing 3 TB fusion drive to the 1TB SSD, will there be too much on the Fusion Drive to clone to 1 TB? Should I download the latest OSX Mojave from Apple to the new SSD, problem being I have a slow broadband connection? Can I just copy the current Mojave from the Fusion Drive to the SSD?
@DIGOOfficial
@DIGOOfficial 3 года назад
Hi Craig, great video. I’m looking to upgrade my Imac late 2012. Just wondered if you can confirm what model Lacie drive this is? I’ve been looking around, and keep seeing the “mini’ rugged drive. I am correct in thinking that’s a differrent drive to this one in your video?
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 3 года назад
Thanks for the nice words. That is an older video but I listed the exact model number in the video so you should find it there. You really need that version since it has the Thunderbolt 1 connection which provides the fast connection to the SSD.
@DIGOOfficial
@DIGOOfficial 3 года назад
@@craigneidel Cheers Craig. Yeah I noticed the model number after watching the vid again. Lacie website has a really great model comparison to be able to choose which is the best drive that suits the needs too. Hopefully, if everything goes well, I’ll post and let you know! Keep up the great work, and the informative vids coming 👍🏻
@DIGOOfficial
@DIGOOfficial 3 года назад
@@craigneidel Went ahead and followed your great tutorial, and all seems cool. The difference in speed is so obvious now. Thanks dude! One thing I do now want to do, is upgrade the OS from Sierra to Mojave. What would be the best way to this now though? I’ve made a boot up usb for Mojave, but obviously don’t want to lose all my data by doing a new install. Would it be best to use migration assistant to do this, as I’ve read that time machine backups can often not copy over certain files to a new OS.
@JohnMHammer
@JohnMHammer 4 года назад
I enjoyed this video. I like the orange bumper LaCie drives. The tape though, maybe it helps with heat transfer but for swapping the guts like this it’s a PITA, I’d rather have a couple of clamps or bolts. I’d also rather have a standard TB-1 port and an included cable rather than a captive cable, although if you’re moving the drive around a lot it’s a convenience, I guess. One very minor note: LaCie is a French company, it’s the “premium” Seagate brand. LaCie is pronounced “Lah See” with the emphasis on the second syllable. Lacy is the name of my son’s girlfriend.
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 4 года назад
Thanks for watching and sharing the information. Yes, with the older 2011 iMacs the Thunderbolt port is really the only one this will work with so the external ssd is fast enough to boot MacOS. Thanks for watching.
@nunofreiredossantos2285
@nunofreiredossantos2285 Год назад
Hi Craig, sorry to bring up such an old affair but I'd like to know if I could use an external NVME SSD in a Mac mini of 2012, using the Thunderbolt 1 port.
@craigneidel
@craigneidel Год назад
I have not tried that but if you can hook it up then it should work if you format at OS Extended Journaled. But, the 2012's have a faster USB port so you could maybe use something like a Samsung T5 etc. On the 2011 it didn't have the faster USB 2 ports.
@ssplintergirl
@ssplintergirl 4 года назад
It would have been cool if they released more stuff that used the thunderbolt 1&2 connection. The fact that it has a higher bandwidth than SATA III out of the box could have had incredible speeds and sweet expansion options. Sucks that shintel doesn't like playing nicely.
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 4 года назад
Yes, it's hard to find anything Thunderbolt 1 right now. If you do it's expensive. I found my Lacie on Ebay and got a good deal.
@ssplintergirl
@ssplintergirl 4 года назад
Craig Neidel Yeah I got the exact one because a seller offered one at 2 o’clock in the morning for $75 shipped and taxed. I will say though, does TRIM and S.M.A.R.T. work over thunderbolt? I know it’s basically a pcie connection right? Also, does it cap out at the max 6gp/s or can it get upto 10gb/s as rated by Thunderbolt?
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 4 года назад
Yes, it is basically a direct connection but I have been using my setup for over 1.5 years with no issues. For the speed you should get somewhere like 350 to 425 MBps depending on the drive (SSD) you use (read and write). The actual Thunderbolt connection is capable of 10 gb/s but you really can't even use half of that with a non-NVME drive. So the connection is plenty. The key is making sure you don't try and use the older usb connections as those can't move any data and the Thunderbolt is the only option. Anyhow it's much faster than a spinning drive and should boot up in like 15 seconds. Just remember it will be basically a brand new OS and MAC. You can always boot to your old drive but when you boot to the external SSD it like having a brand new Mac so you need to load programs etc. Thank you.
@ssplintergirl
@ssplintergirl 4 года назад
Craig Neidel I used a drive duplication software called “SuperDuper!” to make an exact copy of my HDD to leave off exactly where I started but with a faster SSD. It’s actually kind of funny, in a 2011 imac, you have the main SATA III on the Mother Board, the secondary slave SATA III port on the Motherboard, a thunderbolt 1 port, and a firewire 800 port. Assuming you had a 2tb drive attached on each of them, you could have 8 TB of expansion all running at a minimum max speed of 800mb/s. Edit: reality is often disappointing because practical read write of FW800 is about 80Mb/s.
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 4 года назад
@@ssplintergirl yes the firewire port is useless for my video and thunderbolt is only way to go. Thanks for sharing.
@rudolfharris2378
@rudolfharris2378 4 года назад
Hi Craig, Thanks for your video. It's helpful, but I'm left with a few questions. Firstly, does the thunderbolt 3 to thunderbolt 2 adapter not work to attach an external SSD drive with USB-C? I heard that Thunderbolt and Thunderbolt 2 are compatible? I have an iMac 21.5" late 2013 (14,3) and can't be sure if the motherboard installed has a port for the SSD so instead of going in and finding out it doesn't, a friend who has followed your vid advised I do the same. The only issue is getting my hands on one of the Lacie drives you mention. Any thoughts on the adapter and whether you know if the model I have has a port on the motherboard (at the point of purchasing the machine, there was an option of going with a fusion drive, but I'm not sure if that means that the machine just came with the SSD installed or wether it means a different motherboard was installed.) Thanks for any input!
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 4 года назад
Thanks for watching Rudolf. If you have a 2013 iMac then you have USB 3 ports. If my video I had a 2011 iMac and that only had USB 2 ports. Your USB 3 ports are capable of 5 Gbps (which you divide by 8 coverting bytes to bits) and this port is capable of 625 MBps. Of course there is overhead with the external SSD if you are booting from that but if you install a regular Samsung SSD then you might still be able to get 400 MBps read and writes. So you might just get an external enclosure that has USB 3.0 (5 Gbps) speed and you should get about 80% of the speed of the SSD if you boot off it and that is going to be worlds faster than the internal spinning drive. Plus it would be way easier and cheaper to find a USB 3 (5 Gbps) enclosure than the Thunderbolt 1 Lacie. I recommended that since I have the 2011. So I hope that solves your issue and good luck with your project. Thanks for watching.
@rudolfharris2378
@rudolfharris2378 4 года назад
@@craigneidel thanks so much. I had thought that much but just wasn't sure. I'll wait and see what happens to the bids I've placed on some LaCie drives and then take your suggested route. Thanks again for replying.
@rudolfharris2378
@rudolfharris2378 4 года назад
@@craigneidel sorry to bother you again, but do you know what the speed differences are between the external SSD via USB 3 and swapping out the internal HDD for an SSD? Will the internal SSD install yield even faster speeds? And if so, do you know if I'd need to install a thermal sensor?
@hatroeger
@hatroeger 4 года назад
Hi Craig, thanks for this informative video. Let's say I'm adding the external SSD with the fresh installed OS. What will happen when I try to open one of the apps that are not installed on the SSD but on my 1TB HD? Do I have to reinstall all the apps on the SSD or is there a workaround? Thanks for any help!
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 4 года назад
Hello Harry. When you do this it's like a fresh install. You can leave your internal drive along (don't format it) and can boot back into that drive at any time by changing target disk in startup disk. If you are on the new OS install on the SSD (external) then your older drive is still accessible and you can grab files from it but just not load programs the same way. So think of it as a new install and apps would need to be loaded on the new OS install.
@hatroeger
@hatroeger 4 года назад
Thanks Craig ! 👍🏻😀
@johnnyhotspur6144
@johnnyhotspur6144 4 года назад
I’ve ordered the gear, just waiting. Once installed, do I have to move my applications over to the new drive? Or will they run (and faster) from where they are? (I’m using things like DxO PhotoLab 3.)
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 4 года назад
Yes, if you follow this video you will have a completely new OS install and really computer on the external SSD. So any apps etc. would need to be copied over like it is a new MAC. Thanks Johnny.
@GOK1970
@GOK1970 4 года назад
What about TRIM on the external drive....needed or will there be a problem after a while? Any experience?
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 4 года назад
Good Question. The newer drives (SSDS) have quite a bit of endurance built into them and I'm not using Trim on these devices. If you are worried you can pick something like A DC Intel model that might have something like 3000 TB read writes (or more) before you might run into issues. I have personally not seen any issues at all and have a number of these running for over 2 years. Mine are Samsung EVO and QVO drives that might have endurance in the 600 to 800 TB range. Of course buying a quality drive or one made for a datacenter can expand the life of the drive. Thanks for watching.
@bobbourke9195
@bobbourke9195 4 года назад
Hi Craig, Great video and thanks for the heads up ongoing my old 2011 iMac a new lease of life. I am wondering if the Lacie HDD I Have listed following suitable for your suggested enclosure? LaCie Rugged Thunderbolt USB 3.0 2TB External Hard Drive Portable HDD (STEV1000400)
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 4 года назад
Yes, that one will work with the Thunderbolt 1 port but you need to remove the 2 TB HD and replace with an SSD like in the video. The Thunderbolt connection is the key (so is the SSD) otherwise it will be too slow to run the OS. With it though it will be quite fast once you are done. Thanks for watching.
@bobbourke9195
@bobbourke9195 4 года назад
@@craigneidel Thanks Craig. I'll let you know how it turns out. Keep up the good work. Is there a model of iMac (vintage with two thunderbolt ports. I run run a Cinema Display at the moment out of the single Thunderbolt port.
@bobbourke9195
@bobbourke9195 4 года назад
Sorry Craig. I just checked mine. It has two ports.
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 4 года назад
@@bobbourke9195 Thanks. Yes, I think the 27" had two ports so you should have one left for the lacie. Thanks.
@bobbourke9195
@bobbourke9195 3 года назад
@@craigneidel Hi Craig. I upgraded my Mac about a month ago and everything is great. Thanks for the advice. Just one question ... I have ended up with a home folder on my old boot drive and my new boot drive. Do you have a suggest as to how I can simplify this and avoid confusion? Thanks again
@AlessandroCondorelli
@AlessandroCondorelli 4 года назад
Hello Craig! What about using the Thunderbolt 1 port on my iMac 27” (Late 2012) instead of one of the 4 USB 3.0 (5 Gbps) ports for connecting an external SSD? Do you think would be faster the Thunderbolt connection over the USB 3.0 one with external SSD Enclosure?
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 4 года назад
Yes if you get true thunderbolt enclosure it is best and will be fastest way to go. Especially is you use nvme drive but either way it seems thunderbolt is best but if other port is 5gbps that should also work. Thanks for watching
@AlessandroCondorelli
@AlessandroCondorelli 4 года назад
Craig Neidel watching your video seems you get around 350 MB/S speed using the Thunderbolt 1 enclosure. Now, I had the chance to try a Samsung SSD EVO 680 in USB enclosure connected to my iMac 27 (Late 2012) through the USB 3.0 (5 Gbps) port and had 420-430 MB/s speed. Seems like iMac USB 3.0 ports are faster than Thunderbolt 1.
@angelluis1949
@angelluis1949 5 лет назад
Hi Craig, thanks for the video, I'm definitely doing that. One question, I'm trying to download the High Sierra OS from the App Store but it said no results. I can only see the Mojave. Would that be a problem? I have a 21.5" iMac late 2012. I'll appreciate your help!
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 5 лет назад
Hello Angel. Please try this page and there should be a link to download High Sierra here support.apple.com/en-us/HT208969 . I did this a while back but think it should still be available. Good luck with everything and it really runs great once you install the OS the external SSD. Just make sure you use the Thunderbolt external drive. Thank you.
@angelluis1949
@angelluis1949 5 лет назад
@@craigneidel I decided to run Mojave instead and it's working just as good following your same method. Thank you for taking the time to enlighten others!
@kevyyar
@kevyyar 4 года назад
What were the specs for the 21.5 inch iMac when you bought it before installing the SSD? I found one that is i7 Intel core and 16gb of ram idk if it's worth it I need for web development
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 4 года назад
Hello Kevin. Mine had an i5 with 12 GB of ram (user upgraded to that). With the SSD upgrade using the Thunderbolt external I think a i7 with 16 GB will be quite a bit faster. I do think the 27" is a better experience if you have room and budget because the screen is much easier on the eyes being 1440P instead of 1080P. Plus you get that real estate when working on multiple things. But if the 21.5" is best for you I do think it would be fine. You can also see if you can find a 2012 and do the same upgrade on the hard drive. The spinning drives make the systems way too slow but it's a world of difference when you upgrade the drive. Thanks again for watching and please subscribe if you want to see more videos. I appreciate that for sure.
@Jrome4life
@Jrome4life 2 года назад
Once you since to the ssd can you use format the older drive in the computer to use it as backup drive just curious
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 2 года назад
Yes you can but I actual leave it alone so I can boot back into it at any time. Plus it shows up as drive so you can save files to it if your booting off the SSD.
@rickbowen1025
@rickbowen1025 4 года назад
I’m thinking of trying the same thing on my 2015 imac. Instead of thunderbolt 1 I’m planning on using a thunderbolt 2 connection with a 4TB samsung EVO 860 ssd. Does it matter if the external shell was originally for a 1 or 2 tb drive or does it have to be a 4tb or higher enclosure?
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 4 года назад
I havent tried with such a large ssd but think it should work. Thunderbolt 2 is compatible with thunderbolt 1 so that is fine but not sure if that enclosure has any limits over 2 tb. My guess is no. Good luck and thanks for sharing.
@ElVecioGian
@ElVecioGian 4 месяца назад
Hi Craig, I've an IMAC21.5" - 2011 (IMac 12.1) and I like to use an external SSD to install MAC OS and boot from it but i'm not sure that my IMAC can boot from Thunderbolt; what do you think about ? It's mine the same model of your IMAC ? Thank you very much
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 4 месяца назад
Does it have the same connection as the computer I used. If so it should work.
@AllThingsCool
@AllThingsCool 4 года назад
I use hitfilm to edit my videos will installing this ssd make video editing noticeably faster
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 4 года назад
Thanks for the feedback Chuck as it helps the community. I'm glad it helped and thanks for watching my videos. Please subscribe if you have not and I will do my best to make more content on Mac and Apple products.
@AllThingsCool
@AllThingsCool 4 года назад
@@craigneidel I dont think you read my comment lol I was asking you a question.
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 4 года назад
Sorry I read it but thought you said it made it faster. To answer the question it should make it faster but with video editing memory and cpu are maybe more important. But if you have a spinning drive going to an ssd will make all programs load quicker and everything will be snappier. I noticed my video scrubbing as better to. Since I have not used Hitfilm I'm not sure how it is optimized but adding the external ssd won't hurt and should help with the overall experience. Rendering times less so as thats cpu and ram. Thanks Chuck.
@AllThingsCool
@AllThingsCool 4 года назад
@@craigneidel ok thanks I went ahead and bought the lacie and the samsung evo 860 1 tb drive hope its gonna be worth it paid 160 for both
@ronaldo19832
@ronaldo19832 Год назад
Hi! I have a late 2014 27 inches iMac and wanting to do the same thing for my Mac. Given it’s now 2023 what components do you suggest to buy? Thank you FYI I have the 1TB hybrid fusion hdd in my Mac now.
@craigneidel
@craigneidel Год назад
I have a few videos on doing this with my 2017 imac so look for those. I would just use the fastest USB port you have on the 2014 imac to connect the external enclosure to. Even USB 2 should do the tick. The 2011 only had Thunderbold and very slow USB so that is why we had to do all that with the enclosure to get it to work correctly.
@sclogse1
@sclogse1 3 года назад
I'm a little late, but I don't have an Apple ID. I should also ask...can we have a setup where both drives on on the screen, but I started with the new drive, but have access to the apps I picked up over the years on the old drive? Thanks.
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 3 года назад
You can always boot back into the older drive and if you don't delete or reformat that drive you can always reboot into it and use the older apps as needed.
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