Border Security: What We NEED To Do About Immigration - Learn Liberty 

+Greg Bledsoe Yep

I do to but those kinds of politicians are only in power because the electorate vote them in.

Anthropic i think this argument might have changed my entire opinion on open borders.

@@zaidnava3728 Me too

What an absolutely laughable idea to even be slightly considered "good."

where you at now? lol

***** How does more people equal a surplus of fuel, groceries, housing? We'd have less of all of those not more and higher pricing on them to boot. While when a product has high saturation the prices go down that's not always why prices rise and fall. Gas always goes up in the summer no matter what because the crooks take advantage of vacationers.

Collectivism in his lingo! :O

***** Yeah, people born within THIS arbitrary imaginary boundary are much better than people born in THAT arbitrary imaginary boundary!

Adam Jones Why is that funny? Because he's not white? He's an American citizen isn't he? Then its "we." If not, why not?

1. Lowering wages (for low skilled jobs) is basically the same as saying ALL goods in services that Americans buy would become cheaper. 2. Increasing the costs of housing is basically the same as saying all Americans who own land become richer. 3. He never admitted to goods becoming more expensive. If labor costs go down which you and Bryan both claim, then goods and services become cheaper. So there are two main aspects of open borders that means nearly everyone should support it: the practical reason, and the ethical reason. The practical reason is that unless your only doing low skilled labor, your purchasing power will increase because labor costs in the US will be lower, and if you own property or work in the real estate industry, your property or work will become more valuable. The ethical reason is this: open borders would help more people than closed borders. Any effects of immigrant competition hurting some Americans is swamped by thousands and eventually millions of people's lives being improved. Think of the long term, which one of these scenarios leads to long term American prosperity and a competitive economy: letting in people so there is more competition, or closing our borders even more to protect those who couldn't compete with the people entering? If you support liberty, you will support every adult's right to enter into any agreement with any other adult as long as it isn't coerced. Closed national borders clearly infringes on that right.

@@lendluke While also lowering the amount of money that individuals make...And demanding higher taxes to support greater welfare programs.

@@lendluke your 1st statement assumes that there are enough jobs for those in the U.S. to keep employment numbers high and unemployment numbers from creating more welfare debt. I don't necessarily like welfare but it is a reality. That said, the same amount of dollars with fewer goods per person does what to prices? Yes, Luke, it raises prices...While wages go down. Your 2nd statement assumes that the people coming into the country making lower wages won't have to live in ever more expensive housing. Again, supply and demand dictate that this WILL increase rents and make housing more expensive. More people, same amount of land = higher prices. your 3rd statement, See the above answers. Fewer goods relative to greater numbers of people will increase prices. The reason that we have a nation that protects rights is because we have a Constitution based upon ideas built culturally over a great many years. The culture that the United States used to have was centered on maintaining the liberty of the nation and its means of governance, political freedom to choose elected officials to staff that politically free structure, and individual liberty. These are not balanced easily. They did not fall into place. Wars, Luke, have been fought to maintain, refine, and change this country and its structure. The founders of this nation were not immortal beings of unearthly light...but they did know that the people needed to understand their government, their rights, and their responsibilities. This was for the purpose of maintaining the greatest amount of individual liberty, while also maintianing the government that protects these liberties. The political weight of the citizen is immense precisely because every other citizen's rights must be protected from government overreach and defended from all enemies foreign and domestic. Ignorance of this is at least as dangerous as ideological opposition to it. I wonder if you can tell me how many of those coming into this country illegally understand the rights, the government structure, and the responsibilities of the citizen, Luke? Do you? The United States grew its economy and did so very well with borders. The erroneous (to say the least) statement that America cannot simultaneously maintain borders and a strong economy is not based on historical data. I wonder where the assertion comes from. In no way does maintaining an American national boundary and secure border infringe on the right of adults to engage in contracts. In fact, the United States has an implied agreement with those wishing to live in the U.S. They can apply to become citizens. There is a provision for that. If they want to work in the U.S. they can apply to do so, as well. I am a free market thinker, Luke, but surely you do not think that security is a non-issue here in the U.S., do you, Luke? I believe in trade. So, turn your political guns on other countries and demand that they give their subjects opportunity. Build a business and make contracts with these people that you want to help. Is that not opportunity? Does that not give them greater wealth? Meanwhile, visit the border and see what it is like for miles on either side, specifically because illegal trade brings human trafficking, drugs, and weapons to either side of that border. Some, Luke, do not see money as a means to amicably trade. Some see it as a way to rule. Check out the gangs on the southern border. Look at the cartels south of Texas and California. They kill Mexicans routinely. They kill Americans frequently. Now, given the ability to cruise right on over, without any way to check this activity, what do you think will happen, Luke?

@@dryhumor7302 every benefit he mentioned, only benefits the wealthy ruling class. None of these things will benefit the majority. The guy in the video says its only going to hurt the absolute lowest class, but in reality it will hurt the working/middle class the most. It will eventually make the us just like all the countries these people left where you have wealthy ruling class, and the poor laborers, fighting over reourses. And will never have the opportunity to get ahead. Which is another thing he said. To hurt a few of our lowest class will be a benefit for millions of immigrants coming for a better life. But at what point does that opportunity diminish? After so many others to compete with, and how low it makes the wages, will make it the exact situation they left.

@@kathryncastanares525 , I agree. The United States has given massive amounts of tax payer money to other nations to "help raise the living standards" of those countries. Their wealthy and powerful absorb those funds rapidly and the majority does nothing to fight the corruption. U.S. businesses build facilities in nations around the world and largely pay wages to scale because they would be short on work and blasted by the media if they didn't. Even when they pay to scale, mendacious people talk about how low the wages are for employees in those places...Never revealing that in many places globally wages that seem small here are great to those in the area. Of course, those that benefit from being liars attempt to shut down these businesses...Or blackmail them...until they shut down and take jobs and careers from impoverished natives. The U.S. has taken in and offered amnesty to untold millions of illegal immigrants. Each time we are told that it has helped the immigrants way of life and American economic circumstances. It NEVER has. It NEVER will. Legal channels for immigrants help the U.S. Illegal entry is a violation of law, sovereignty, and trust. It should NEVER be rewarded with amnesty. It further subdivides dollars spent on those who have no right to be here. None. The "Free World" libertarians have always talked about how open borders are just great for everyone. Europe, The U.K., and the U.S. have all seen what illegal entrants can do to societies. They bear less accountability, due to the fact that they often have false (multiple) identities. They have advocates that shield them from answering for crimes. They pay as little of their tax burden as they can (sometimes nil) and simply change locations/identities to avoid overdue taxes. The silly argument that it is "racist" to have border and laws to protect the sovereignty, security, and culture of a society is made utterly useless in the examination of U.S. history. Slaves were forced to come here by filthy slave traders. Democrats wanted them to remain slaves. Republicans wanted them to be citizens. Why? They didn't sneak in and take. They were the victims of barbaric swine. The slaves did more than enough to show that they were good people. They showed that they were willing to stand for freedom and the letter and spirit of the Constitution. United States citizens became soldiers to fight and die for the freedom of these people. That hasn't changed. We still help people find freedom in their own nations...While so many attack and accuse us of racism and bigotry. The fools that believe we have no right to borders must show a moral way that we can have no borders and yet have the authority to enforce laws that protect the freedom the libertarian idiots pretend they want for those that turn their noses up at our Constitution.

FrankWhite604 yeah it just goes to show what a liberal white guy thinks and an actually immigrant thinks.

FrankWhite604 😂😂😂

+Bret Z Yeah, you're right, Caplan knows nothing about economics. It's not like he got his doctorate in economics at Princeton and is a professor of economics at George Mason University or anything.

+Jek Tono Porkins Let's argue credentials, instead of making arguments... Said no Economist ever. My degree in Economics allows me to comfortably say that he ignored his, in making that argument.

Research "pay premiums." His argument is backed by research.

Lol look at europe now.

I love how you compared it to leaving your door open. It's such a bad example cause it's not nearly the same. Also the only reason we don't have enough police is due to corruption in state governments. Like Cuomo handing money to counties that supported him instead of distributing the states wealth throughout the state as needed.

Excellent analogy.

get a job!