Borders, Brexit & New Leaders: What the Hell is Happening in Northern Ireland? - TLDR News

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Northern Ireland has been going through a fair bit of political turmoil recently, with governments collapsing and new leaders left right and center. So in this video, we try to explain the chaos and what it means for the future of Northern Ireland and the Union.
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@peterellis9105 2 года назад

The DUP over played their hand when May was forced out. The DUP would have had a customs union under May's deal and there would be no need for an NI protocol. As soon as Boris Johnson got his majority and did not need the DUP's votes in Parliament there was no need to listen to the DUP. So the DUP got left with the NI protocol.

@ExploreLearnEnglishWithGeorge 2 года назад

yeh, also partly due to the fact that the torries don't read what they sign

@sparticuzj19 2 года назад

@Charlie Munster I always laugh whenever people mention “ oven ready” because it’s a funny description.😂

@oscarosullivan4513 2 года назад

Serves them right

@oscarosullivan4513 2 года назад

Why is the Nationalist community represented by the St Patricks cross

@oscarosullivan4513 2 года назад

Its a catch 22

@kevinclarke113 2 года назад

Honestly Northern Ireland is pretty much in a constant state of political crisis, its just a question of degrees

@mickeypye2593 2 года назад

try 360 mate ;) lol !!!

@QemeH 2 года назад

Yeah, but "burning police vehicles in the street multiple nights in a row" is a degree kinda worthy of special recognition, innit?

@mrvwbug4423 2 года назад

@@QemeH That was a daily occurance for 30 years, and could be again if the good friday agreement is breached

@liamcassidy5992 2 года назад

“It seems the Unionists never intended to hold up their end of the bargain” Surprise surprise, nothing new

@DaDunge 2 года назад

Johnsson should be so proud he only had to screw them over once and they're already doing the same to others.

@mackenziebeeney3764 2 года назад

This is why you should negotiate in good faith

@godlovesyou1995 2 года назад

Why would they want a foreign, unpopular language everywhere? They only did it because the childish Sinn fein leave the assembly when they dont get what they want. I am sick of constant S.F propaganda

@ronthered138 2 года назад

Hmmm... perfidious Albion

@liamcassidy5992 2 года назад

@@ronthered138 had to google that term and the fact that this exists as an actual saying is hilarious and depressing at the same time

@josephmanning1438 2 года назад

How dare these Irish people, on the island of Ireland demand that they should be allowed converse in and nurture their native tongue in government and elsewhere, on the island of Ireland . Who the blazes do they think they are?

@mijicmugendo 2 года назад

Well things have improved. We no longer get sent to prison for speaking Irish anymore

@DaDunge 2 года назад

I mean it's not even saying that they have the right to be heard in their own language, it's lifting a rule that makes it Illegal to speak Irish in the courts. Finns have more legal protection in Sweden than Irish in Northern Ireland.

@DaDunge 2 года назад

@@mijicmugendo Only if you do it in court. Also how does that work with the name of the sinn fein party. That's Irish so mentioning that name in court would be illegal then?

@kevinschultz6091 2 года назад

@@DaDunge - I'm guessing proper nouns are considered to be universal - in the same sense that if I say "His name is Ichiro Miromoto", I'm still speaking English, even if I'm referring to a Japanese name. I suppose an edge case would be if I used Japanese grammar conventions - ie, if I put the family name first. Or if I used a sound that didn't exist in the English language. (None in Japanese, I don't think, but I know other languages have them.)

@RedWinterHero 2 года назад

Yeah, if they teach Native American languages in school in America they should teach Irish in Northern Ireland too.

@MrAidzor 2 года назад

I must admit, the slow drawn out political suicide of the DUP has been marvelous to behold!

@miakeogh6844 2 года назад

I agree as with the English

@MrAidzor 2 года назад

@Charlie Munster they just need someone to hate and they certainly can't direct that hatred at their British overlords!

@oscarosullivan4513 2 года назад

@@MrAidzor I believe if your English you might not get much fanfare in the Shankill road

@MrAidzor 2 года назад

@@oscarosullivan4513 I wouldn't doubt it. They aren't an overly inviting bunch of people up that neck of the woods!

@seosamhofionnaghain8699 2 года назад

@@MrAidzor The only problem here is while the DUP may possibly be slipping in votes I also Note that The TUV according to this video news report are gaining significant ground up from around 1% to 11% So The NI protocol problem is still to be resolved.

@Michael-lu9eu 2 года назад

Don't think Nationalists would identify with the St Patrick's Cross...

@yankeefan2k2 2 года назад

I think it’s just because it’s meant to represent Ireland as it appears in the union flag. I don’t think he meant anything by it.

@harrysmith3860 2 года назад

It was a really weird choice wasn't it? A flag that hasn't been used in a century and is inherently tied to the UK... Strange choice

@Michael-lu9eu 2 года назад

@@yankeefan2k2 I don't think he meant anything by it either but it's not representative of Nationalists

@cgillespie8010 2 года назад

@@harrysmith3860 sometimes st Patrick’s cross gets used by churches here during st Patrick’s day, though that may just be in Downpatrick. You can and do see it at rugby matches sometimes too. Flags are never irrelevant in NI, they are just getting ready for a new fashion.

@harrysmith3860 2 года назад

@@cgillespie8010 Yeah the St Patrick's flag for St Patrick's Day makes sense, although I've never seen it myself. I don't personally think there was anything malicious from TLDR here, but I'll be honest I have never seen that flag being used (aside from in a historical context) before, although that could be because I'm from East Antrim, the most unionist area of the north 😂

@TheOsis181 2 года назад

Imagine being a DUP MP and actually believing you can scrap the protocol 😂😂😂😂

@professorsogol5824 2 года назад

Imagine being a DUP MP and actually believing the world came into existence 6000 years ago on a Saturday night (because on the seventh day, he rested).

@indogoUI 2 года назад

Scrap the DUP

@benangel3268 2 года назад

@@indogoUI Don't worry, they are putting themselves on the scrapheap.

@ozonenerd7714 2 года назад

@@professorsogol5824 he wasnt an mp though. He was an MLA

@lauradonaghyomalley2033 2 года назад

One of the unintended consequences of the peace process is that after years of sitting around a table with major geopolitical players, NI politicians were conditioned to believe every squabble since then is a matter of international importance. The DUP managed to veto May's version of the NI Protocol when they held the balance of power at Westminster. It doesn't serve any unionist politician to acknowledge that they have no leverage whatsoever, or that they have no allies in civil society, British politics, or the international community. Business and industry leaders, NI nationalists, and the EU all want the UK to try to make this work - and even the Tories' complaints about the Protocol are plainly more of a negotiating position than a red line.

@aubs400 2 года назад

Ah Brexit, the gift that keeps on giving.

@thetowerfantasymusic 2 года назад

It has to

@nathancopestake4029 2 года назад

Remember it was meant to be done in 2019 when boris won and we wouldn’t have to talk about it again 🤡

@electrochipvoidsoul1219 2 года назад

I mean, it could hardly be a better time for the nationalists!

@e33d90 2 года назад

@@electrochipvoidsoul1219 the euro nationalists?

@electrochipvoidsoul1219 2 года назад

@@e33d90 The Northern Ireland Nationalists (the ones mentioned in the video).

@thinkingbarefoot 2 года назад

Two pieces of feedback: 1) the red cross on a white background is not representative of the nationalist community and 2) it's pronounced Lag-an valley not Lay-gen valley.

@AnonymousXeno 2 года назад

The Red Cross can represent NI but yeah the Irish flag would be better

@thinkingbarefoot 2 года назад

@@AnonymousXeno oh absolutely it can represent NI but the context it was used in in the video was to represent nationalism which wouldn't really be correct.

@talideon 2 года назад

@@AnonymousXeno It doesn't. It represented the government of NI pre-Troubles, but never NI itself. Edit: ugh! I just noticed it's the saltire, not a cross. Yeah, St Patrick's Saltire doesn't represent anyone, never mind NI or the nationalist community.

@redrocket7002 2 года назад

British flag is the flag of Northern Ireland kid, support the flag of your country

@haroldinho9930 2 года назад

@@AnonymousXeno I prefer the old Ulster flag. Red Cross on a yellow background with a red hand in the middle

@yankeefan2k2 2 года назад

So I’m from NI. From what I remember coming up to elections there’s always a certain about of fracturing within the unionist vote. What usually tends to happen is that old fashioned tribalism sets in, and unionists fearing a nationalist victory will rally behind the DUP as the biggest party. This time round it’s not as clear cut, but socially NI is turbulent too. We still have radical actors such as the UDA, mass mistrust over policing (see Noah Donohoe case just for an example of that), legacy issues stemming from victims of the troubles still seeking justice. The riots a few months back show how vulnerable the Unionist community feels at the minute and radical voices like Jim Alister are stoking those flames. Long story short NI is not in a stable position right now for UK ministers to be using us as a political football

@indogoUI 2 года назад

It's looking like confidence in the DUP is declining as they really have no control over what they are promising. This will mean other unionist parties will take on those voters as they have nothing to lose or offer except to hit out at the DUP. It's a real mess for unionist politics especially when Sinn Fein are going to be the largest party in Northern Ireland.

@countbinfaceglobalpresiden7926 2 года назад

Your pfp is literally me watching this video.

@robert6106 2 года назад

Noah Donohoe, noticed a lot of people pointing fingers at the PSNI over this but his personal belongings were in the hands of people from Irish Nationalist/Republican communities. Some one knows what really happen to that lad and are deflecting or keeping shout about it. No point blaming the police when the murderers are still running about.

@colloquialsoliloquy6391 2 года назад

@@robert6106 where did you find that information?

@sr9587 2 года назад

Yes from the horses mouth as they say

@Wasserfeld. 2 года назад

We've had 40 odd years of British debate over Europe. And honestly, I think we're only half way through that debate. The DUP promoting Brexit was always idiotic, as they failed to understand the lack of care about NI in GB. The average person in GB doesn't give a damn about NI, most will never step foot there. The whole concept of NI and its divisions are total alien to us. Polls show only over 50s support Brexit as a majority, while the majority in age groups younger oppose it - this isn't going away. I always supported an EFTA style compromise, but the Tories seem determined to piss off anyone who isn't a hard core (GB) Brexiteer. A total refusal by Westminster to take any responsibility for the mess, blaming the EU for the "wonderful deal" Boris Johnson promoted just shows how useless and embarrassing our government has become. The entire thing was foreseeable, indeed it was predicted. Now Westminster and NI unionists are stuck in position they can't get out of without breaking an international agreement. I'm starting to think a UK General Election with the Tories losing is the only way out.

@Wasserfeld. 2 года назад

@rylixav - Gleefully is over stating it. The poll was a YouGov poll just last week. It's indisputable that as a majority young people don't support leave - I say that as someone in their 20s. In fact I know one person my age that voted leave and even they admit they did so because their parents told them to. And also, there were many polls before the referendum that acutally had leave majorities.

@0w784g 2 года назад

"This isn't going away", it will go away, when these individuals grow up and leave their naivete behind. Unless you think political opinions are set in stone from puberty (hint: they ain't). Speak for yourself about NI. Just because your don't care/are ignorant or otherwise have an indifferent attitude to that place, doesn't mean others do not.

@Wasserfeld. 2 года назад

@@0w784g It won't go away - the only naive thinking claiming we 'held all the cards'. Saying the 'grow up' is the problem - for 40 years some did all they could to make the UK-European realtionship difficult, now we're here the same as saying 'get over it'. It's not going to happen, especially as this government has screwed this up royaly and many people have been screwed over by it. I don't believe political opinons are set in stone and I don't need your hints, but if you think people are suddenly going to become more anti-EU or even anti-EEA then you're mistaken. Just like this bs idea that critising Westminster's actions or Brexit is anti-British. As for NI, I'm educated on the matter - I know the history, the politics and the geography. Infact I've got degrees in International Relations & Development. But the fact is, most in England don't think about NI - it was bearly even metioned in the ref campagin. Hardly anyone in England can name more than two places in NI, hardly anyone could name NI's leader. That's not my ignorance, that's theirs. And you may not like that fact, but that's what I'm pointing out and that's the reality.

@0w784g 2 года назад

@@Wasserfeld. I've heard some half-baked arguments in my time, but this surely takes the biscuit. What do you think the average Muscovite thinks about the travails in Transnistria or South Ossetia? Moreover, do you think the average person from say, Exmouth cares for the political upheavals in Northumberland? Yours is a total non-sequitur of an argument. I'd take your purported degrees and demand a refund. Exchange them for a syllabus that let's you use the correct spelling of "barely" at least. Enlighten us on these forces that have made UK-Europe relations difficult for 40 years (I'm guessing you mean EU), reveal the evidence behind your bold claim that mistrust of EU will decrease over time, disclose the details of this international agreement the government is going to break. Hah! Your as ill-informed ignorant opinion-haver I've ever heard. The NI constitutional settlement is resolved. It's in the GFA. It's foremost tenet is the question of self-determination. While you can opine on the matter with your incredibly shallow understanding, no non-resident Northern Irelander get's a say on the constitutional arrangement any longer, especially not a self-confessed indifferent non-resident.

@meh23p 2 года назад

Agree with your comment, but just one thing: It’s EEA, not EFTA. EFTA is basically just a Free Trade agreement like the one there is between the UK and EU now. Although all of the countries that are *in* EFTA participate in the Single Market in some way, either through the European Economic Area or through bilateral treaties (Switzerland). So the confusion is somewhat understandable.

@Prayingmantis78 2 года назад

I'm surprised that language is so controversial. In Wales basically anything to do with supporting the Welsh language here automatically goes through

@talideon 2 года назад

It's not that surprising. The DUP inherently dislike anything even vaguely associated with Irishness, regardless of how innocent it is or whether it's to their benefit. Their siege mentality is *the* fundamental reason NI is a hot mess.

@severalgeollosscreaming48 2 года назад

It's extremely old mate, penal laws I believe was it's origins. And as said in the video, their chosen candidate believed the world was 6000 years old and homophobic I don't trust them to take things normally

@antseanbheanbocht4993 2 года назад

Labhraím Gaeilge go soiléir agus go héasca agus taim bródúil. Is fuath liom an DUP agus tá an taontas Marbh.

@severalgeollosscreaming48 2 года назад

@@antseanbheanbocht4993 Yes lad

@ShaneToob 2 года назад

NI may be on the island of Ireland but anything that threatens the "Britishness" of Northern Ireland is controversial among Unionists... even though other UK countries already have their own Gaelic Language Acts.

@haleemakhatoon7202 2 года назад

If only someone predicted this...

@dorkangel1076 2 года назад

And another bit of Project Fear becomes Project Reality....

@Infinitystar225 2 года назад

@@dorkangel1076 what is project fear?

@YourXavier 2 года назад

@@Infinitystar225 "Project Fear" was a term used by Leavers during the referendum, to dismiss any problem or concern about Brexit raised by Remainers. The idea being "You're just trying to scare us out of leaving. It won't really happen." Since many of these problems have in fact now become reality, Remainers have adopted this term to taunt Leavers, basically saying "We told you so."

@Infinitystar225 2 года назад

@@YourXavier much appreciated, thanks

@fuckthepolice71 2 года назад

@@YourXavier except most of the predictions haven't come true

@ItsTheBoombox 2 года назад

At 10:47, as a Irish man, this statement is extremely unlikely as we are rubbish at soccer and also no matter what, always cheer for the team playing against England

@YonaSoundcloud 2 года назад

They're implying that Northern Ireland is coming home... Don't take everything at face value

@Fiddling_while_Rome_burns 2 года назад

So the Irish are just like the English who always cheer for the team playing against Ireland. Only the Irish get a lot less joy from doing it.

@talideon 2 года назад

@@Fiddling_while_Rome_burns My experience is that English fans are pretty indifferent to who Ireland are playing if it's not England.

@lizardlegend42 2 года назад

@@Fiddling_while_Rome_burns I don't think I've ever encountered an English fan who does that, or even really cares who Ireland is playing against.

@orlaoto5794 2 года назад

That's not strictly true, in most sports here are a few countries that are offensive enough to warrant supporting England. In athletics it's US v anyone including England, for example. And we'll give them a pity cheer when they're about to be hammered.

@dwansbo 2 года назад

The significance of the Irish Language to the Nationalist Community in Northern Ireland goes back a lot further than 20 years. A policy developed In the seventeenth century to "convert" the population of Ireland to loyal subjects of the British Crown. English speaking migrants from Northern England and Scotland were "planted" throughout Ireland, mainly in the northern counties.Their descendents, the loyalist community in NI see themselves as defenders of the Union. A system of laws Called the "Penal Laws" was also implemented which included measures to either displace the native population, or to force them to lose their Irish identity. This included a ban on speaking the Irish Language and teaching it in schools. Discrimination on religious grounds was also applied, the Monarch was the head of the Churches of England and Ireland. Irish Catholics and Mainly Scottish Presbyterians living in Ireland were forced to convert. The legislation which requires official state recognition of Irish also includes Ulster Scots.

@seachsy 2 года назад

Hear hear

@XgamerdaveX 2 года назад

I didn’t even know Northern Ireland had their own language.

@grimnir8872 2 года назад

Did you learn that in irish school by any chance?

@lilalife666 2 года назад

sligo irish here ... and yes it was bad, our ancestors suffered.. but now we are blessed, any hatred is mostly gone. we still have rural hatred towards the english .... the past suffered, but so we could flourish. i for one am very thankful for the circumstances, a very bloody past... but we must remember that we are where we are because of our adaption to english.

@Camelotsmoon 2 года назад

Makes sense why there were a lot of Irish immigrants back then to the US (and I'm sure a lot of other places).

@attackofseabears 2 года назад

As a nationalist in Northern Ireland, the whole thing has been great entertainment from our end.

@KaiObelisk 2 года назад

Well I laughed for two months straight. Couldn't happen to a more deserving group than the DUP.

@aaronw2595 2 года назад

I'll be honest I think unification is just a matter of time at this point. I'm wondering what y'all think?

@KaiObelisk 2 года назад

@@aaronw2595 Depends on Scotland. Scotland leaving will kill the union stone dead and make it easier to convince the middle ground to leave what is left.

@Hugo-tv9ht 2 года назад

i can imagine lmao

@DP-ic2lz 2 года назад

@@KaiObelisk no the union will survive realistically Northern Ireland is more aligned than the Scots. Plus both states would crash and burn without the economic powers of the union. Also I don't get why all these peeps are so bent on leaving combined we are one of the largest economies in the world and easily one of the best nations to live in. Leaving would collapse that and end any hope of a British renewed decade

@melimoo6656 2 года назад

Arlene fosters big mistake was not supporting Theresa Mays proposal for a customs border in the channel. She totally overplayed her hand. She has a lot to answer for.

@BurningMad 2 года назад

It looks like the DUP are learning the hard way that it's not enough to just play identity politics if you want to stay in power, you have to be competent at governing too. Between overplaying her hand on Brexit and the heating scandal, Foster was clearly incompetent. Perhaps this is a reason why Alliance has grown.

@Gardstyle35 2 года назад

@@BurningMad lets hope all the feminist SJW parties learn that its not enough to play identity politics as well

@gregoryfenn1462 2 года назад

@@Gardstyle35 what the actual fuck are you on about? Where did talk of SJWs come from? And what party is specific feminist (edit: the WEP make this their main platform, but other parties are feminist too!). I seem to remember a poll saying that Lib Dem members are the most like to self-describe as “feminist”, but none of the parties are trying to stop women from voting or earning money etc. The DUP has some nasty anti-women policies (eg illegal abortion) but most of the other parties could plausibly be called “feminist”. Feminism is just a subset of equality and is nothing controversial, we are either sexists or feminists, and very few people want to be known to be sexist.

@Gardstyle35 2 года назад

@@gregoryfenn1462 no feminism isnt about equal rights, its about more rights for women. not killing unborn is anti-women? How is that. let me ask u, if its her body her decision shouldnt it also be his money his decision?

@kgrimes4934 2 года назад

@@Gardstyle35 So you’re a deadbeat dad projecting your issues on random comments? Literally nothing abt SJWs or Feminists in the video or in the comment.

@Doso777 2 года назад

NI politics is such a mess. One person can hold the entire country hostage.

@owenlindkvist5355 2 года назад

Pretty much.

@nicolaramoso3286 2 года назад

I have to admit though that it is quite interesting.

@owenlindkvist5355 2 года назад

@Kelly 22 Northern Ireland is effectively a country.

@casteretpollux 2 года назад

In fact, the UK as a whole has often been held to ransom by the Unionist vote.

@casteretpollux 2 года назад

@@owenlindkvist5355 Effectively, Northern Ireland is no more a country than my little toe is my foot.

@iandonnelly7707 2 года назад

The flag of nationalists is the irish tricolour and not the British made up St Patrick's flag which has never ever been displayed in nationalist areas

@CaptainX2012 2 года назад

The Irish Tricolour was made up by the French though......

@Lorcan666 2 года назад

@@CaptainX2012 it was a gift yes and we adopted it happily. What's your point ?

@HeirofcIreland 2 года назад

@@Lorcan666 Presented to the Great Thomas Meagher of the Irish Brigade no less

@ibrahimyilmaz4861 2 года назад

@@Lorcan666 he disproved the original comment who claimed the flag was a made up English thing which it clearly isn’t

@Lorcan666 2 года назад

@@ibrahimyilmaz4861 he clearly didn't. St Patrick's saltire was adopted by the Anglo Irish order which was founded by George the 3rd and never a flag used by nationalists to identify themselves.

@owenlindkvist5355 2 года назад

"Unionists never planned to hold up their end of the bargain" What!?!!? Say it ain't so!!!

@dorkangel1076 2 года назад

I suppose they are pretty close to being Tories...

@benangel3268 2 года назад

Är du svensk? Jag bor i Sverige o har en god vän med Lindkvist som efternamn

@Lite_Fare 2 года назад

@@dorkangel1076 And on the 12th of July they become Pantomime Tories.

@dan-860 2 года назад

NDNA was broken due to the economic border in the sea, NDNA set out that there would be no new trade barriers between NI and GB. With that broken there was no reason for Unionists to implement ILPs.

@owenlindkvist5355 2 года назад

@@dorkangel1076 Possibly sewn together at this point.

@adhemar9366 2 года назад

You neglected to mention the main reason Unionists are making "such a fuss" about the Irish language: anti-Irish racism.

@nicolaim4275 2 года назад

As a casual outsider I would call them Anglo-Saxon Supremacists. The Irish part seems less relevant than the non-English part.

@0w784g 2 года назад

@@nicolaim4275 The Irish are a race now. Good one.

@nicolaim4275 2 года назад

@@0w784g First of all I didn't say that. Secondly, have you no knowledge of history? Each nation was considered a race and the (catholic) Irish were considered inferior in both England and the US until around the first world war. The concept of racism as primarily based around skin-colour is an Americanism.

@0w784g 2 года назад

@@nicolaim4275 Nobody sees, or saw, people from island of Ireland as a different race to people from the rest of Britain.

@wodgwidh Год назад

@@0w784g Yes they did u 🤡 Irish and English aren't the same

@themasterofpuppet1 2 года назад

Dunno who's doing your graphics but that St. Patrick's Cross isn't really the flag of Irish Nationalists/Republicans

@siruranos9172 2 года назад

It is an Irish symbol, I've seen it flown in football matches, although I think it is supposed to represent all of Northern Ireland instead of Nationalists only.

@siruranos9172 2 года назад

@Dean O'Brien Ah snucks, really? Well at least St. George is real... right?

@siruranos9172 2 года назад

@Dean O'Brien If England brings it home than it surely isn't

@anonymousleftwingtroll7677 2 года назад

@@siruranos9172 its just the flag Westminster put on their union flag to show ireland was on it......idk why its used as a nationalist thing

@murpho999 2 года назад

@@siruranos9172 that’s a different flag with a crown on it. The tricolour is used by nationalists.

@petersutton523 2 года назад

I believe “remainers” said from day 1 that Brexit was impossible because of the situation in NI. All Johnson has done is kick the can down the road a little (like he does with everything) and now he’s going to have to come up with a proper solution or apply for re entry into the EU. If he doesn’t there will be a hard border in Ireland and we’ll be right back to the ‘70s and the troubles.

@dorkangel1076 2 года назад

Teresa May started kicking that can in 2017 and it's still going.

@zaksharman1029 2 года назад

Pretty sure that within the next 12 months the troubles will be back and worse than ever. I was not alive during the troubles but they sounded terrifying. BTW i am not Irish

@frankc9186 2 года назад

All Johnson has to do to solve most of the problems, is join the customs union.

@matyasmatta 2 года назад

@@frankc9186 everything would be simpler if Brexiteers weren't so obsessed with leaving anything with "European" in it...

@marconatrix 2 года назад

@@frankc9186 I'm reminded of this quote from IIRC _1066 and All That_ : "He spent his final days attempting to solve the Irish Question. Unfortunately whenever he was getting warm, the Irish changed the Question ..." :-)

@MrStoneyburke 2 года назад

The sad thing about the Border in The Irish Sea for Unionist,s is, they cant travel anymore to England by Submarine.

@antoinemozart243 2 года назад

We all live in an orange submarine....orange submarine...orange submarine !!!!

@CharlieOBrienTF 2 года назад

Fortuntately, it was a Fenian invention so they wouldn´t set foot in it.

@MrStoneyburke 2 года назад

@@CharlieOBrienTF They could go to Holland in one

@CharlieOBrienTF 2 года назад

@@MrStoneyburke I guess I should have said unfortunately rather than fortunately!

@brandonp3455 2 года назад

My favorite moment of this entire Brexit fiasco is the evening of the referendum, seeing some Unionists rallying in support of Brexit, then seeing the same ones protesting the next morning against the protocol. Not a huge amount, mind - but it happened.

@severalgeollosscreaming48 2 года назад

When they were talking about the Irish language and the judicial law, all I could think about was Black 47's Courthouse scene.

@lizardlegend42 2 года назад

Not to mention when tables turn later on "ní hé sin teanga na cúirte seo" It's a seriously underrated movie imo

@vehx9316 2 года назад

It's hilarious to watch the DUP squirm under a protocol that they knowingly support but have 0 idea on the implications. Truly a classic case of "beware what you wish for". Pragmatism have never been a strong point of these fools.

@miakeogh6844 2 года назад

They only thing they can say is no no no no no no no no no no no

@miakeogh6844 2 года назад

@Charlie Munster I agree

@TastySandwich100 2 года назад

Imagine power sharing with literal terrorists, that's pretty pragmatic

@Keltik0ne 2 года назад

It's going to be a mess, plenty of idiots on both side just itching to start a war. I'm glad my family have all left now but I still have friends in Belfast, which is not ideal. Britain needed a level headed negotiator in charge, then voted in a human clusterfuck.

@olegperkopskiy2282 2 года назад

Alliance party seems like the only one that is reasonable and doesn’t stoke hatred and division

@JoeSwansonsLegs 2 года назад

@@olegperkopskiy2282 Eh, my view on the UUP and Alliance are equally good imo.

@casteretpollux 2 года назад

From my perspective the idiots are the 'divide and rule' English Eton class, who manufactured artificial divides in every country they colonised.

@danielbradley753 2 года назад

@@olegperkopskiy2282 You don’t know much about Alliance do you? Most people on the Republican side would agree they are effectively watered down unionists (and the fact they’re taking votes from the DUP would add weight to that view). Not to mention they don’t care about anything outside Belfast and Co. Down and are the proverbial fence sitters on most issues.

@macplatinum9325 2 года назад

Somehow this is Johnson's fault

@craigmcilveen2655 2 года назад

I'm from Northern Ireland and would just like to say thank you for not only this video but the TLDR channel as a whole. It makes politics simple to understand without any biased reporting. I think we are heading for a nationalist government and possibly a united Ireland in the next 10 years if all goes well under sinn fein. This is ever more likely with the utter failure that is brexit.

@0w784g 2 года назад

It's completely biased. I'm not sure if you know how social media works (or indeed, news media in general), but it does not involve frequently producing output in which your audience disagrees. If you find that the output of the channel accords with your views, then at the very least consider your biases are simply aligned.

@seachsy 2 года назад

You say the reason for tensions over the Irish language Act is because of a 20 year debate which has become politically symbolic but this is more so due to hibernophobia from the unionist government. In a few days bonfires will be lit burning effigies and tricilours and slogans like 'kill all taigs'. This is more of an issue than is reported here

@An_Cummanach 2 года назад

As someone who lives in the shankill I can't wait for bonnie night. Im allowed out of work about 4 hours earlier because the fucking clowns build one right beside where I work. So I get to go home and watch TV while they stand around the big fire like fucking cavemen.

@icemanire5467 2 года назад

@@An_Cummanach 🤣 I hope you enjoyed your time off?

@An_Cummanach 2 года назад

@@icemanire5467 yeah was great. Got to watch a fire truck go speeding past my window cause the bonie was actually melting parts of someone's house and had to get put out.

@lilalife666 2 года назад

cmon, he done pretty well to be fair.... lets not pick the shkin out of his hair. let me see an irishman discuss the absoulte fishnet of british politics in the past few years.

@bryanbelshaw7725 2 года назад

Then in a few days from now you'll see bonfires again with union jacks, Ulster flags, effigies and slogans like Brits out. There's nothing like giving both sides of the story.

@iancoyle7944 2 года назад

Since when has St Patrick's cross been the flag of irish nationalism tldr?

@talideon 2 года назад

Hah! The TUV is barely a party and more a permanently angry man who's too angry for even the DUP.

@cameronburke8002 2 года назад

Bold of you to assume Jim Allister is a human.

@talideon 2 года назад

@@cameronburke8002 I know, but I was being generous. He's more of thumping vein attached to something vaguely human-shaped.

@sean5350 2 года назад

@@cameronburke8002 haha

@YohannParis 2 года назад

I really appreciate the pace in this video; it feels less rush and clearer. Thank you for all your hard work. Even as a Frenchman living in Canada, I found the subject interesting and worth 10 minutes of my time.

@getnohappy 2 года назад

If this video doesn't start with "in 1517, a monk named Martain Luther..." then the question in the title has not been given due thought!

@MartinDeHill 2 года назад

Skipping the Norman invasion of Ireland? Look at this guy only looking at modern history!

@dorkangel1076 2 года назад

Pah, modern history. You should start with the First Council of Nicene in 325... 😉

@KaiObelisk 2 года назад

@@MartinDeHill Yep. Every modern Irish history should begin with Dermot MacMurrough and Strongbow from around 1160 onwards.

@danielbradley753 2 года назад

@@KaiObelisk Idk like the plantation is an equally good place to start 😉

@antoinemozart243 2 года назад

The orangists are calvinist not Lutheran !

@laryone 2 года назад

Flags and symbols are always a tricky on for NI. The Flag you're using to represent Nationalism is a bit off the mark here. St.Patrick's saltire is seen as a British flag that's used to represent Ireland rather than anything Irish Nationalists themselves would ever use.

@sashasscribbles 2 года назад

I'm curious, what flag would they identify with for rn? c: The Irish Tricolor eventually ofc but like, for the nationalist movement itself?

@laryone 2 года назад

@@sashasscribbles Northern Nationalists do tend to use the Tricolour quite a lot, there is also the 1916 Irish Republic flag which sees occasional use, the 1914 Irish Citizens Army flag. The Tricolour is the most commonly used one though.

@laryone 2 года назад

Also, the possibility of changing to a different flag in a United Ireland has often been discussed, so the Tricolour might not be the flag used despite the intentions of it's design. Many in the Protestant/Unionist/Loyalist communities see it as being antagonistic.

@sashasscribbles 2 года назад

@@laryone Ohh, cool thank you for sharing c: Looked both up and yeah the tricolour seems like it'd probs work the best but the citizen army flag also looks pretty good eh not my place anyway, I hope the movement goes well c: Edit: Ohhhh thats really interesting, I'm sure whatever flag a united ireland chooses will be beautiful c:

@simongleaden2864 2 года назад

Antagonistic to Unionists? But a third of the flag is orange, the unionist colour par excellence, surely?

@nikoladd 2 года назад

"Psychological trauma for unionists" might be a good thing..

@helenmoorcroft6964 2 года назад

The People of North of Ireland voted to stay in the European Union . Surly that says the people spoke.

@ab-ym3bf 2 года назад

The only will of the people that counts is the english will.

@pulmo1 2 года назад

They voted more correctly to leave the EU without adequate consideration for their internationally agreed treaty obligations. Closer observation showed that they could financially benefit significantly from the special Northern Ireland agreement. The DUBs put their prejudices ahead of their own best interests.

@ab-ym3bf 2 года назад

@@pulmo1 how did they vote to leave the EU? I thought a majority in NI voted remain?

@rusticpartyeditz 2 года назад

As part of the Uk, we really had no say. England swung it.

@bryanbelshaw7725 2 года назад

@@rusticpartyeditz The voting card clearly stated it was a UK REFERENDUM. It's the height of nonsense to then try and separate the vote. How far do you go with that.... individual cities, counties and towns? Everyone knew it was a UK referendum.

@anthonyblack2592 2 года назад

This is a great summary or what is going on in NI, because I was so confused about what was going on. Along with the fact that I live in Northern Ireland, just shows how confusing this really is. But I think that if there is no scandal with SF they can take the First Minister position, also I think that more people would vote for the UUP since Robin Swann was so good at handling the Pandemic as Health Minister. So that would be a good estimate of the outcome.

@benangel3268 2 года назад

I am not a unionist and believe NI is in Ireland, not a colony in Britain. (which geographically includes England, Scotland and Wales). However Robin Swann would make a much more intelligent leader than the brainless DUP assortment.

@Lite_Fare 2 года назад

@@benangel3268 But not as entertaining.

@anthonyblack2592 2 года назад

But there is also the aspect that we still get some funding from the EU(I'm sure there are a whole load of astricts with that funding). So Northern Ireland is technically duelly funded by the EU & UK. Also I think that NI could be a Transatlantic Shipping hub, since all the different fees and customs checks can be done before they get to the EU and UK in NI thus saving the shipping companies money. Along with more International trade being bought to NI. Though this is another theory of Mine

@adamcarroll3498 2 года назад

I also fully agree, but the DUP will bring all of NI down before they give up their FM position. Even if the votes add up fair and square

@anthonyblack2592 2 года назад

@@adamcarroll3498 if that come, I’ll be playing Hell Fire from Hunchback of Note a Damè.

@eoinconnolly5046 2 года назад

I wouldn't say the conversion therapy vote was the cause, perhaps a final straw.

@JJL07 2 года назад

He went on to say that it was actually more to do with Foster not being forceful enough on the NI protocol

@Theorimlig 2 года назад

He said the vote was the proximate cause of Foster's resignation, but for some reason it says "ultimate cause" in the video.

@eoinconnolly5046 2 года назад

@@JJL07 Yeah fair

@christopherg2347 2 года назад

@@JJL07 She literally forced the creation of the NI protocoll. Had she accepted mays deal of a customs EU customs union for NI, there would be no issue.

@JJL07 2 года назад

@@Theorimlig think he just means the most recent cause idk mate

@Mr1Apokalypse 2 года назад

Johnson will go down in history as the Prime Minister who brought the UK out of the Union. And Northern Irland. And Scotland. And Wales. "Great" Britain

@rusticpartyeditz 2 года назад

Wales doesn't care. And I still doubt Scotland will leave the UK. When the reality of leaving the UK and rejoing the EU is explained, they will baulk at the idea.

@reddyshreddy5050 2 года назад

@@rusticpartyeditz lmao whatever makes you sleep at night pally, thanks for analysing my country’s psyche for them

@robertshonk518 2 года назад

This Poots fellow would do well in Alabama.

@LoveScreamTrue 2 года назад

I come from Eastern Europe, but damn I got the reference. :D

@Emkei2010 2 года назад

Irish independence makes more sense than the Scottish independence. If Ireland becomes an independent country I believe it will become a win win situation in all spectrum.

@orlaoto5794 2 года назад

Except for whoever has to manage our school bus budget.

@RobinKoenig1917 2 года назад

Ireland is already an independent country. Its just the UK still owns a peice of it. That's why, in the Northern Ireland context, we use the term reunification (as in reunification with the rest of Ireland) rather then independence.

@rusticpartyeditz 2 года назад

@@RobinKoenig1917 You're mixing the terms for the Irish state and the island of Ireland. The UK does not own a part of the Irish state. It controls part of the island.

@deyfuck 2 года назад

@@rusticpartyeditz It could be said that Ireland is an independent country and that the UK owns a piece of Ireland, since the same name is used for both, but of course you're right that they're different entities. Still, nationalists would tend to speak in idealised terms by refusing to acknowledge their seperateness until forced to for beaurocratic or legal reasons.

@michaelboyle1805 2 года назад

@@orlaoto5794 underrated comment lol

@DanielHCassidy 2 года назад

It seems like an election is needed to find out what the people of NI actually want the future to look like.

@orlaoto5794 2 года назад

Sinn Fein don't want that election for a couple of years; it's still borderline. There are a lot more non-affiliated than there used to be. If they don't get a solid vote for reunion it could be another decade before it comes again.

@DanielHCassidy 2 года назад

@@orlaoto5794 I get that but even though I am pro a united Ireland. I still believe in representative democracy and shit is happening to NI right now that needs a government that is actually representative of the current sentiments of the population right now.

@Eikenhorst 2 года назад

@@orlaoto5794 I think that it will be impossible either way. Even if SF would win >50% of the vote (not possible, but imagine) they still can't get a referendum to vote for independence without support from the unionist because of how NI parliament is made up.

@stevenmcalister826 2 года назад

@@orlaoto5794 We’re talking about an election, not a referendum.

@eoin7 2 года назад

@@Eikenhorst Actually, the power to call a border poll lies with the secretary of State, not the assembly. Now, Sinn Féin could potentially pass a motion calling for a border poll in the assembly if they had the numbers (Nothing more than a declaration of desire, not a law or policy, simply a statement) then the Secretary of State would probably support that, seeing as that would suggest that the Nationalist electorate outnumbers the Unionist one

@sylvainprigent6234 2 года назад

Having a guy who thinks the world is 6k years old as a head of governement is a BAD thing. I needed not hear furthur discussion

@Paranoid_Found 2 года назад

Brexit: the greatest self-sabotage of human history

@BurningMad 2 года назад

I'd say that was Hitler declaring war on the Soviet Union, but Brexit isn't far behind.

@JensNyborg 2 года назад

@@BurningMad Mao killed between 15 - 45 million Chinese by trying to exterminate the little birds that steal the farmers rice. (Among other stupidities.) Brexit really isn't in the running. (Yet)

@bernardpearce3478 2 года назад

@@JensNyborg it's certainly up in the top peacetime sabotages.

@choobs8511 2 года назад

@@JensNyborg, It will be a contender if it basically leads to the Union Collapsing over the next 10 Years.

@yuspliff9654 2 года назад

Oh god they’re going to piss off a lot of people by using the St Patrick’s cross

@dl4350 2 года назад

gonna piss off a lot of ppl just putting out this video lmao

@noelter 2 года назад

I wouldn't worry about it, it's a English problem just like Jeffrey and Brexshit.

@casteretpollux 2 года назад

😁

2 года назад

I'd seriously advise getting a few people from NI to look over these videos before publishing.

@cassermck 2 года назад

Definitely

@rusticpartyeditz 2 года назад

Hasn't changed my opinion.

@alanmcm 2 года назад

The Irish Language Act removes the last traces of the old British apartheid regime in NI. The hardline Unionist see this as the end of Protestant hegemony in the province.

@theressomelovelyfilthdownh4329 2 года назад

Well, one of the main things done historically around the globe to put down a culture was to destroy their language. It's the fact unionists here still hold these views which is depressing. They still think they can define the world in their own image. Sadly, lots of countries have their own version of these blinkered bigots.

@0w784g 2 года назад

The apartheid is a self-imposed one by the extremes. It's beyond pathetic.

@WalkerSoc 2 года назад

as a guy living in Lisburn. it is La-gan not legan

@kieransavage3835 2 года назад

He means “ Get your leg in,as in Get your leg in the front door....

@mayoite160 2 года назад

can you really blame the guy for getting it wrong when the friggin first ministers can shamelessly oppose making their own mother tongue official?

@andyt8216 2 года назад

Ha this is brilliant. Arlene and the DUP pushed for Brexit and a hard Brexit at that and the result is Northern Ireland ever closer to (re)unification with the Republic. They definitely made a mistake (from their point of view), both being in favour of Brexit and refusing May's proposed deal. What tragic fools they are.

@Macules1 2 года назад

Thanks for doing a video on this!

@rossswann3346 2 года назад

I've been asking for this for so long!!!!

@NatalieH400 2 года назад

I'm just looking forward to a united Ireland and a free Scotland, thanks Brexit!

@Lando-kx6so 2 года назад

A united Ireland now would be a terrible idea & still don't Scotland leaving

@thewingedhussar4188 2 года назад

@@Lando-kx6so hey we sad brexit was just as bad a idea. But brexiteers just said we were wrong. So as I see it, united Ireland and a independent Scotland makes perfect sense nowadays. Saying otherwise means u are admitting brexit was a bad idea.

@indogoUI 2 года назад

@@Lando-kx6so It would take years to implement so it wouldn't be "right now"

@thewingedhussar4188 2 года назад

@@indogoUI I sorta agree We need to do this with thought, planning, and negotiating. So Scotland can transfer seamlessly and joining the EU is not very rocky. Plus make it as less traumatic to England 🇬🇧 Plus we now have a blue print on what not to do. Thanks brexit

@rusticpartyeditz 2 года назад

@@thewingedhussar4188 You would be happy with the unionist reaction to a United Ireland? It would be civil war.

@Irishhero960 2 года назад

Great to see some truly impartial reporting on the issue!

@renerpho 2 года назад

Thanks for the concise summary!

@vilena5308 2 года назад

Thank you for the neat summary.

@account_deleted703 2 года назад

Use of St Patrick's Cross to represent the Irish Nationalist and Irish language is quite frankly a little disappointing.

@andrewmonster9985 2 года назад

Being a nationalist in northern ireland its good to see our "country" getting the spot light for once

@DTG-classified 2 года назад

I want NI to satay in the UK as an English man but if it leaves I’d rather it become an independent country than join the Republic seeming as NI and the republic are too divided now and if they joined there would have to be some sort of NI parliament too

@noelter 2 года назад

@@DTG-classified it would never work unionist majority is gone. It could of work, when it started but unionist gerrymandering made not work with sectarian laws.

@DTG-classified 2 года назад

@@noelter huh? I’m talking about if NI left the Uk or if the Uk broke up I’d rather NI become an independent country through the nationalist parties and the unionist

@diarmuidbuckley6638 2 года назад

@@DTG-classified that solution was tried 100 yrs ago this Summer when they devised Northern Ireland on a map with a 'temporary' border and a Home Rule Parliament in Belfast ...

@breaddboy 2 года назад

@@DTG-classified people really push this idea that there is a big north/south divide but as someone from Belfast I can assure you it's not really any different than england or Scotland's north/south divide.

@FatRonaldo1 2 года назад

Have you done a video on the cash for ash scandal? I’ve never heard of it before and struggling to find much on RU-vid about it

@eoinohara8543 2 года назад

There will a couple of mistakes but all-in-all a very comprehensive overview of what is going on here at the minute. Good job!

@dairebulson7122 2 года назад

A Nationalist (Sinn Fein) First Minister would certainly be interesting, even if it is largely a cosmetic or symbolic change

@adrianthoroughgood1191 2 года назад

I would love to see what happened if the Alliance party was the largest! That would make choosing the deputy First minister tricky!

@dairebulson7122 2 года назад

@@adrianthoroughgood1191 I imagine so, though I imagine that is unlikely anytime soon, barring a massive political upheaval. Since it represents the "Other" faction, if Sinn Fein was the runner-up, they would claim the Deputy First Minister seat, cutting the Unionists out of the top two seats, though they would likely still hold positions in the Executive Committee. On the other hand, if the DUP (or another Unionist party) was somehow able to claim the Deputy First Minister seat, I imagine the Nationalists would be very unhappy, especially since the Alliance, although now nonsectarian, was originally born out of the moderate/centrist Unionists. The Nationalists would probably feel too sidelined for the government to be stable, unless perhaps the Alliance and Unionists ceded a majority of Executive Ministries to them in compensation. Regardless, though, I would much rather see a Sinn Fein First Minister

@rusticpartyeditz 2 года назад

@@dairebulson7122 The FM and DFM have to identify as unionist/nationalist. Stormont could not function without that rule. Alliance do not identify as either and so cannot take either role.

@dairebulson7122 2 года назад

@@rusticpartyeditz I mean, I'm well aware that's why they were made, I'm just hypothesizing if they have a legal claim to the First Minister position (I can imagine Alliance would probably decline the seat even if they had a plurality, so as to not throw the Good Friday Agreement into chaos) Still, I suppose Alliance representing the Unionists would make the traditionalist Unionist parties quite furious

@rusticpartyeditz 2 года назад

@@dairebulson7122 I take your point but they would not have a legal claim to either FM or DFM (and with current polls they woild not be the largest party). You cannot decline what you are not entitled to. I suspect that if SF were the largest party at Stormont and Alliance the second largest, the entire executive would collapse.

@flappetyflippers 2 года назад

Honestly the splitting unionist vote shows yet another problem with FPTP and not a proportional system...

@hvalryusson5540 2 года назад

We don’t have FPTP we have STV

@0w784g 2 года назад

They don't use FPTP. Nice work undermining your own argument.

@flappetyflippers 2 года назад

@@0w784g they do in the general elections, that was what I was referring to, sorry if it wasn't clear enough

@yrobtsvt 2 года назад

Thanks TLDR, this is the content i crave

@KhaalixD 2 года назад

Great video!

@jasonrflash 2 года назад

Good analysis. I’m from unionist background but have always been opposed to brexit. Unionism shortsighted view on Brexit, especially in light of the narrow result of indyref in 2014 has always baffled me. The status quo post indyref was what unionism should have been desperately protecting. Instead they mostly rejected that notion by backing brexit. It’s all over bar the shouting now.

@robert6106 2 года назад

The run up the 2014 result was the end of the status quo, by not voting to leave the EU inline with the upwell of English wishes resulted in Northern Ireland setting itself apart and the following deal making with the EU left us out on a limb. To put that in context, if Northern Ireland had voted 100% to stay in the EU we would have been out the door of the UK by 2015. You in effect voted against Northern Ireland's Membership of the UK.

@scotandiamapping4549 2 года назад

The way I see it Irish unification is almost inevitable now but that's just my opinion.

@WalkerSoc 2 года назад

i'm a 'unionist' but believe that NI should probably unify with the ROI and I'm protestant so that furthers the fact not all protties are unionist and hate unification

@DonFlufflesPrime 2 года назад

@@WalkerSoc Yeah, that stereotype is a bit outdated now, hope people will realize that soon.

@cameronburke8002 2 года назад

@@WalkerSoc I've all but abandoned the whole Protestant vs Catholic thing. I know many Protestants who live in the South and don't view them any different than me. Why should Protestants in the North get any different treatment?

@manufer2 2 года назад

I don't think Irish unification is possible, due to the Crimean crisis being unresolved. But an independent NI joining the EU as a member state is a more probable prospect. What about a Celtic country covering Scotland and NI, is that a possibility? Speaking from the continent.

@DonFlufflesPrime 2 года назад

@@manufer2 I don't think there's much support for a Scotland-NI independent state, though that would be VERY interesting to see.

@ExploreLearnEnglishWithGeorge 2 года назад

Thanks guys.

@chuckboyle8456 2 года назад

Excellent episode, thanks. It was a whirlwind explanation of competing political entities constantly evolving for support from a smaller body of supporters. Would it not be more productive at this time for NI Unionists to seek closer ties with their long standing commercial business partners in the Irish Republic for political stability?

@talideon 2 года назад

Productive, sure, but they're fundamentally ideologically opposed to the idea.

@davidmccabe4041 2 года назад

Am I correct in stating that northern Ireland is in a unique position being able to attract new inward investment by offering free access for exports from ni to both Britain and the eu?. If so the anti protocol protesters should promote this advantage rather than the consequences of the protocol. David McCabe dublin

@richteffekt 2 года назад

Well they do not seem to be to be mainly trading in whatever is good for Northern Ireland but rather in what gives them a big slice of an irrationally unionist vote. So you are not mistaken yet beside the point. Sadly.

@SeanGHOB 2 года назад

What's this "Nawthen Island" you keep talking about and what does it have to do with the map showing Northern Ireland that appeared in the video?

@colinz5771 2 года назад

Can you do a video on the shift in support in the republic of Ireland

@czeslawpi 2 года назад

Star Trek almost predicted this… 2024 is coming folks.

@itsciver 2 года назад

Wait, which Star Trek and which Episode?

@jamielockdown 2 года назад

@@itsciver The Next Generation. Can't help you with the episode, but Data lists out a list of things that were accomplished through violence and the Irish Unification of 2024 is one of them. Edit: A quick Google says the ep is called "The High Ground", if you want to dig through Netflix :)

@itsciver 2 года назад

@@jamielockdown wow, thank you! 🥰

@j.obrien4990 2 года назад

Have the Simpsons predicted it? They are the other most excellent oracle (who else got the Trump presidency?)

@user-yf4gx9lw6c 2 года назад

@@jamielockdown oh god Star Trek predicted the second troubles

@-DC- 2 года назад

The unionists have lost it might take a few decades for it to sink in unfortunately though, reunification is obviously the the end game now however long it takes.

@rusticpartyeditz 2 года назад

Bring it on. Better hope I'm not alive then. From a unionist.

@icemanire5467 2 года назад

Yeah they screwed themselves. Plus the British public just don't care or want rid of them including 3 of the main political bodies with 2 of them openly supporting unification.

@wodgwidh Год назад

@@rusticpartyeditz are land not yours go to england if u hate us Irish that much I personally will make sure people like u will be on my blade if the time comes to defend are right to our land.

@queenalana9880 2 года назад

Thank you

@therocinante3443 2 года назад

Oh hello TLDR, long time no see

@a.jbradley 2 года назад

Just wondering whats your reasoning for using the saint patricks cross for nationalist rather than the irish flag?

@Bushflare 2 года назад

Wouldn’t that essentially frame the nationalists as essentially a foreign political force and a 5th column in Northern Irish politics? It wouldn’t be wrong but it’d be bad optics all the same.

@Adderkleet 2 года назад

Probably to avoid conflating "people in Northern Ireland who want to live in [RO]Ireland" with "the country of Ireland".

@Bushflare 2 года назад

@@cacamilis8477 So they’re a force of culture that wants to dissolve the only place in the world that represents the Northern Irish culture and annex it onto an existing state and that doesn’t scream ‘bad optics’ to you?

@cacamilis8477 2 года назад

@@Bushflare If you frame it as you do here, which is how a unionist would see it, yes. A nationalist would argue that they live in a foreign occupied country that has colonised their land through plantation, subjugation and conquest for almost 800 years. Interestingly, although it's ridiculous to argue that there is no Northern Irish culture, because there obviously is, it is generally split into two: A unionist, protestant culture that aligns very heavily with English and Scots culture, and a nationalist, catholic culture that aligns very heavily with Irish culture. As every Norn Ironer regardless of affiliation would say: "It's a very complex sityation"

@Bushflare 2 года назад

@@cacamilis8477 Did someone delete your other comments?

@harrysmith3860 2 года назад

Well I think this is the beginning of the end for unionism. The NI protocol isn't going any time soon, and if the unionist parties keep fighting it it'll make them look more and more pathetic Also please look up how to say Lagan and stormont

@StarSprangledBanner 2 года назад

Wow. This is complicated!

@LifeInStone 2 года назад

Unionists are split because of Brexit. NI as a whole voted against Brexit and 1/3 of unionists voted against Brexit despite the DUP huge enthusiasm for Brexit.

@TheUnitedNations. 2 года назад

Just a question from a non-brit. Why doesn't the Sinn Fein deputy first minister withdraw support to the government and force an election? Even though they need the unionists to form a government, surely being the largest party will give them more bargaining power and help pass the law regarding the Irish language.

@indogoUI 2 года назад

Never stop your enemy when they're making a mistake...... Letting the DUP and the UK government fight over the protocol is damaging for the DUP since Boris doesn't give a crap about them and the DUP are making promises that are out of their control. Sit back and watch the "unionists" try and defend what's happening. Right now they have an equal amount of seats but if another person leaves the DUP then that could also change.

@eoin7 2 года назад

Sinn Féin are using this chance to present themselves as the only real, credible and reliable government partner in NI as the DUP gets wound up in internal conflict and dismay. The DUP looking terrible would make Sinn Féin look like a rescue for the terrified Nationalist and possibly moderate communities!

@robert6106 2 года назад

All is not well within Sinn Fein, at the last election they lost a two key seat to the SDLP and things could very easily come back to bite them.

@Jorn6460 2 года назад

I'm starting to feel like I'm following a never ending soap serie. At least I'm getting educated while following the drama.

@Mike-sv2nu 2 года назад

The first syllable of Lagan rhymes with mag.

@edwardmarshall8333 2 года назад

My mp got a mention in a tldr video. How fun

@sryan9547 2 года назад

It's coming home, it's coming home, it's coming- ULSTER'S COMING HOME

@Will-Woll 2 года назад

Ehhh, no thanks.. Pretty sure NI isn't something we can afford even if they were all hypnotised into being okay with it. I've no interest in going further into debt.

@godlovesyou1995 2 года назад

Ireland should come back to uk

@IgnoresTrolls 2 года назад

@@godlovesyou1995 you say that like we joined voluntarily. The British stripped our country of its assets and let our people live in poverty and famine even when we were in the UK. The UK literally let its own citizens die of starvation as they were Irish and they didn't need a slave army at the exact time. Brits need to acknowledge their history and not just that one time in the twentieth century when they were on the right side of it.

@andrewjones-productions 2 года назад

@@godlovesyou1995 Said no former English colony ever. Yes, English colony. 'UK' is nothing more than a euphemism for 'English Empire'.

@jonathanbuzzard1376 2 года назад

Can you point to a time in history when there has been a United Ireland that was not under "English/British" rule? Fun fact you can't. When the island of Ireland is united as a single independent country free of any "English/British" control it will be for the first time in human history. TL;DR Ulster can't come home to something that never existed.

@mattbosley3531 2 года назад

I'm only part Irish and don't live in Ireland, so my opinion probably isn't worth much, but I'd like to see the country reunited. I think things are a bit ridiculous the way they are now. Of course I believe Brexit was a huge mistake as well but nobody asked me.

@joprocter4573 2 года назад

So you want house next door to be one cos it looks tidier never mind the ppl of country

@michaelgreen1515 2 года назад

The cabinet doesn't always and hasn't always been multi-party but only the 2 parties generally of the first and deputy first minster; mostly the executive has not included other parties even if the justice minister has been from the Alliance party (who are non-aligned), in the interests of peace, on many of these occasions they have technically remained outside the executive.

@jamesdenton6370 2 года назад

Rough audio edit at 8:40 - not the end of the world but there’s usually one per 2-3 videos

@Flamingben 2 года назад

‘UK’ is falling apart. Thanks to the Tories. Not necessarily a bad thing…

@neolexiousneolexian6079 2 года назад

Decolonization in action!

@jamiekelly4663 2 года назад

Why no Irish flag when he mentions Nationalist?

@talideon 2 года назад

A misconsidered attempt to be neutral, I suspect.

@watershed8685 2 года назад

Who needs George RR Martin and his Song of Ice and Fire when there’s Brexit drama! Truly, DUP is a classical example of over-ambitious players getting tangled in their plots and believing themselves able to control much larger forces. THIS should be written down in annals of political science!

@NEWBkiller646 2 года назад

I'm impressed how well you covered the topic, if you're looking for an additional source I'd recommend the commentator Mick Fealty who runs Slugger O'Toole

@raabaddler5802 2 года назад

there is a simple fix Have the Union tell the Unionist to come back to the UK with the damn union and live in the damn Union

@NAYRUthunder99 2 года назад

I doubt the Brits would be eager to receive them.

@rusticpartyeditz 2 года назад

Are you telling people who have lived in Northern Ireland all their lives to leave becuase they want to stay in the UK? Bring on the troubles II

@davidboettger 2 года назад

Asking from the continent: Is there a possibility of a Sinn Fein First Minister and a deputy from the Alliance removing the unionists entirely?

@rburns5737 2 года назад

No the positions go to a unionists and a nationalist but not an other party like alliance.

@barbarianislander3805 2 года назад

The First Minister and Deputy First Minister have to come from the 2 communities in NI (i.e. Nationalists and Unionists) so a party that isn't affiliated with either won't get a FM/dFM. But it is technically possible that they end up in coalition if the joint Sinn Féin-DUP vote didn't form a majority, as a compromise partner.

@talideon 2 года назад

Alliance would need to declare as unionist for that to happen.

@dorkangel1076 2 года назад

I'd prefer SDLP and Alliance. Hmmm, if Alliance count as other then there mightn't even need to be a joint position... 🤔

@aubs400 2 года назад

It actually benefits SF being in power with hardline unionists, as it increases tribalism and thus benefits their base of voters (as opposed to the more moderate SDLP). Alliance, being non-sectarian, would interrupt this power balance.

@blechtic 2 года назад

Is that description of ministerial allocation accurate? It's just that if the largest party was from the second largest community, by your description they'd get *both* the first minister *and* the deputy first minister positions...

@rusticpartyeditz 2 года назад

The FM goes to the party with the most seats, and the DFM from the second largest party. The community point is irrelevant except for the point below. The FM and DFM have to be from unionist and nationalist parties. Stormont cannot operate without this applying so if Alliance were to be the second largest party, they cannot fill the poisiton of FM or DFM. It would be very problematic if this happens to put it politely.

@jannuary831 2 года назад

Lagan Valley. Did you pronounce it ‘Legin’ Valley?

@trustmetours57 2 года назад

Brexit has done nothing more than alter the time line on a United Ireland which any sane and rational person knows is inevitable. The GFA effectively lays the foundations for a UI Referendum and the figures shown in the graphics in the video tell you everything you need to know as to how that will work out. There is no solution to the NI problem that does not involve bloodshed, the outcome of a UI Ref is going to go the way of the Nationalists and the Unionists will not go quietly. Brexit is certainly not helping however it's not the sole reason for the ongoing problems in NI.

@indogoUI 2 года назад

The problem is the people want peace, if the island is united at least the next generation will get exactly that.

@lizardlegend42 2 года назад

Bloodshed is by no means the only option, far from it. To think so is to be stuck in the past. The peace process in NI has come leaps and bounds over the last 2 decades, it would be desasterous to forsake it all for more petty squabbling. Patience is the answer. The vitriol and sectarianism of the past is constantly on the decline, the newer generations grew up safe in peace, they for the most part have no taste to return to the horrors they learned from everyone around them. That patience is neccessary on both sides, although I think unionists are aware of where the trend is going and so might not want to fizzle out of relevance. All we can do is hope that more level heads will prevail

@trustmetours57 2 года назад

@@indogoUI No, the problem is some people want a United Ireland and some people don’t. That has always been the problem and a United Ireland will not solve that.

@trustmetours57 2 года назад

@@lizardlegend42 The fact you use the term ‘petty squabbling’ shows how clueless you are, have you even a scintilla of an idea as to how many lives have been lost over the centuries because of this ‘petty squabble’? Breathtaking level of stupidity.

@indogoUI 2 года назад

@@trustmetours57 It was the same with the peace process, the DUP said it would be the worst thing that happened to Northern Ireland. Look how that turned out. The only thing that will give a true answer is of the island has a vote on it. Let the people decide