I think he meant the presets are all the same because they came stock. When you buy it you'll make your own presets. Thus "the presets repeat themselves" = "the presets are all the same". As opposed to the 24:00 mark where the evh has unique presets based on Van Halen.
nothing beats these 80s rack units imo, i hear a noticable difference, probably due to the higher bit rate and upgrades, i just wish they would have a 'failthful' or 'old school' mode added to replicate the old units perfectly
Pete Thorn said they spent weeks A/B ing this thing with the units in EVH’s actual rig and got it to where they couldn’t hear a difference, fwiw. Maybe what you’re hearing is due to the recording or some such 🤷🏻♂️
@@patrickrosington1174 I highly doubt that. Do you own both units? The main difference im hearing is how the original fades with the repeats, something that the new unit doesn't do the same way. From the video, I promise they're different lol
I adore UI on new boss SDE. It reminds me control panel from Back to the Future. Tbh vintage digital gear ain't that bad if you spend some time. I still use (for home use) line 6 pod XT pro with alesis midiverb4 an bbe sonic maximizer... It is so inspiring and reasonably loud with all-around HiFi. Give old gear a try. It doesn't have to be bad
I became a fan of the SDE-3000 when my favorite guitarist Steve Lukather was raving about them back in the 80’s. I scraped and saved a got one; I play bass. OMG! What a box! NOW they made it into a pedal? 2 @ THAT? EPIC!!! I’m getting one for my bass rig!! The EVH sounds epic as well! R.I.P Eddie! Wish you were down here to be apart of this. But then again; in spirit, you are.😌🙏🏾🕊️🎸🎶👍🏾
@@squirelova1815 You know what? Yes I am! I wonder if Boss would take the Roland DRV-2000 and turn THAT into a pedal. That would be crazy! Just a thought.😌🎶👍🏾
Nope. Early 90s. That way you can enjoy what was 80s, but then you had an explosion of great music from other bands. 1. Jane's Addiction (Ritual) 2. RHCP (BSSM) 3. SMASHING PUMPKINS (GISH) 4. TOOL 5. Faith No More 6. NINE INCH NAILS 7. NIRVANA 8. ALICE IN CHAINS ETC.... ETC... ETC...
The EVH presets are all described in detail in the Boss owner's manual documentation, so you can definitely recreate those on the SDE-3000D without having to buy the EVH version. Basically what the EVH version brings to the table is the unique W/D/W output capability that goes alongside a 4-cable method of connecting to a high-gain amp.
That would be cool I could use with to get the different delay and modulation sounds that I use, but it would be nice to have a dirt settings on it too
phase switches are anything but “subtle” when creating specific chorus and flange effects. welcome features that were unobtanium for most of us in the eighties.
I hope there is a global eq on this, to cut all that brittle top end. Universal Audio did it properly with the SDD-3000, hope a firmware update comes soon for these.
It wasn’t a true fair AB comparison. The pedal and original unit are each connected to entirely different amp models - not exactly the best way to make a comparison.
Maybe it’s because the new unit was connected to a Victory V40 combo (graphic says v140, but that’s a head), which has 6L6 tubes, while the classic original went thru a Victory DP40 with EL34 tubes? Maybe the speakers are also different, not to mention combo vs. cabinet? Too many variables are in play.
I remember once i was in Andertons and some guy tried to steal a guitar. He made a run for the door with a Squier Jizzmaster under his coat. Lee jumped over the counter and took him out with one swift kick to the head then dragged him to the back of the shop. Never found out what happened to the guy, last thing i remember was him mumbling incoherently in Danish with drool coming out of his mouth.
Well if you were wanting to make a video on how the original was better, mission accomplished. The older one was warmer, fuller, less brittle, and more pleasing to the ear.
For those of you, who saw the EVH version in the title of this video and actually want to hear it, here's a video Pete Thorn just posted, Pete was actually involved in the development of this product, and because outside of andertons Eddie Van Halen is one of the most important guitar players of all time... here's a real video about the product ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-1EYgPfFeLR0.html
After just "Fair Warning" Eddie could have "mic drop" retired with nothing more to prove. Savagely talented force of nature he was. "Fair Warning" was his favorite album btw, and mine too.
I was about to buy an H90, then I heard this. I bought the EVH instead...not to try to sound like Eddi, but because it didn't suck tone out of the amp like all these other multi-effects pedals do.
I thought the rack units were supposed to get a line level signal from a preamp or fx loop. Were they designed to take instrument signal? This rack unit sounds a lot better to me than the new device, maybe because of the different amps.
My wife says I'm "escaped from the 80's" but, I never did escape. Oh well... "I guess I picked the wrong week to quit Delay pedals...what do you make of this Johnny?"
Pretty cool, but holy crap at the price. I'm sure the boss will do exactly what someone wants, that's great. But you can buy an HXFX that offers a crazy amount of effects for the same money.
That’s because the EVH version takes up that extra space with its EXT loop and added Dry output jack. Because they both share the same foundation, the logical solution was to move the MIDI and USB jacks to the side rather than place the EXT loop on the side of the EVH version.
I’d say because it’s digital but so was the other one so idk. Maybe because it is newer but I am not that well versed in that department to give you a good answer
I've got an old SDE-3000 and it sounded fantastic until it died on me. I do dub and prefer to use a delay on an Aux send on the mixing desk, route the output back to an input on the desk and then send the delay back into itself. The problem is this sounds rubbish with a lot of delays when you mix the internal delay feedback with the feedback from the desk. I suppose it's caused by the latency of the DSP in the unit. I'd love to buy the SDE-3000D, but I suppose I will have this problem with it.
This may be the first use of the expression "bitrate vintage". In 40 years, old heads will be like "I only use that low bitrate OG gear, screw that quantum shit"
On the Vintage Roland SDE-3000 Rack Delay what's the voltage on the back label? Japan uses 100V AC , US Model has 117V AC, so I am guessing the UK/Europe Models use 240V AC or you need a Transformer. #MegaTron #Variac What the difference between the Roland SDE-3000 and SDE-3000A Rack Delay models?
3000A has extra paint for the “A” on the front panel. Otherwise it’s identical to the 3000. i worked for Roland from 87-91 when they released the 3000A, which was really just a reissue of the 3000. Roland Japan just didn’t want to admit it because “we design the future.” It’s really nothing more than that.
The old one really shines when gain is added. The newer version is so bright and just kinda gross sounding. And considering you can get a vintage one for around the same price it is a no brainer. Like at least when korg did this they picked a unit that was very expensive, fairly rare, and spent a lot of time getting the analog side and preamp right. I get it most modern guitars are afraid of rack units. I understand that. But tonally they often just sound better simply because more thought was put into building a decent unit that exist in both the digital and analog realm, and trying to cover up the limits of digital at that point in time. It gives the units a character so few modern devices have.
For a modern example there is Oto, the French company does some absolutely incredible sounding and very very vintage digital effects. Their reverb and delay are incredible (I suspect their filter also is but I haven't tried it). Just they have a weird table top format which seems to scare away a lot of guitarist from using their products (beyond bands like Sunn0))) or Sumac/Old Man Gloom in the studio).
@@skinsolproductions yep. Basically the rack shines in every way but being pedalboard friendly, which I get is a make or break for a lot of people. I'm just one of those people that doesn't really care about that kinda thing. Lugging gear has always been part of the job.
@@skinsolproductions funny I had to explain the 13 bit sdd-3000 to a friend last weekend who'd never looked into it before as we were discussing units with unique analog preamps in older racks. Love that stuff. I have a weird love of 80s and 90s stuff few get now.
I don't get the need to move away from racks... I mean, replacing a rack unit by a small format pedal I get but by the time you get a pedalboard that will fit a huge thing like that, might as well run rack gear...
