Botan Explains Why She Doesn't Recommend Gaming Laptops【Hololive | Eng Sub】 

Sasuga gamer lion

Spoken like a true gamer veteran. The sneeze 🤧 finisher was Majestic.

Put it this way: a laptop is meant to be carried around. That means all the parts will have a size/weight constraint to consider (aka they have to balance out the aspects they compromise). PC parts don't have that limiting factor.

If only the gpu prices weren't so artificially high, I probably would've had a gaming pc by now... Add to that the chip shortage and yeah... Thankfully I'll be able to get a steam deck to finally pc game! But yes, Botan's a true gamer hehe! ^_^

As someone that has been exclusively using laptops for the past 10+ years, I agree with her recommendation. While laptops can still be great gaming machines, it is significantly more expensive than a desktop of similar quality. Unless you have a specific reason to get a laptop (e.g. I travel a lot for work and need something portable), I highly recommend desktops.

Gave a great tech tip and gave us a cute sneeze after that. My experience with LaLion tech tips is a 11/10

That sneeze at the end blessed me for a whole day. Arigatou~

Honestly, it's so cool to see how different all the girls in Hololive are, they all have special talents and knowledge that really showcase their uniqueness

Unfortunately, due to the semiconductor shortage, you can often get a whole gaming laptop for the price of a GPU. Right now, it makes sense to get a laptop and get a desktop later on when things are less insane.

I have a gaming laptop . It's loud af, really hot when running full tilt, much more costly and still not as powerful as my PC. I only recommend it for people who are constantly on the go.

With the absolute drought of GPUs right now for desktops, for some people if they want decent gaming performance and let's say their old GPU pooped out, a decent gaming laptop is their only choice unfortunately

Unfortunately for me, my responsibilities requires me to be on the move a lot, so I had to buy a gaming laptop even though I wanted to buy a desktop so bad

Botan is based, I agree with her wholeheartedly. Gaming laptop is -heresy- not a good choice xD Not to mention it's easier to fix PC and find parts than laptop

Gaming laptops are WAY different than they used to be back in the day. I can totally agree with the lion about choice of CPU and GPU when choosing a new laptop since it's pretty much a fix thing (it's gonna be that specific gpu and that specific cpu you'll get with the device). Speaking of experience, i use a HP Omen 15 with a Ryzen 7 4800h and nvidia RTX 2060 (costed me $1180 bucks last year) And i can play many current gen games at ultra settings without problems at 60 FPS. >YOUR MACHINE MUST SOUND LIKE A DARN HAIRDRYER Nope. Even playing same doom eternal for hours it only manages to sound just what a PS5 fan noise sound playing Elden ring. If you have the money to invest on a desktop tho, totally go for it. If you have the money for only a laptop, totally go for it. If you want further evidence of what this specific laptop can do, i have many livestreams here on youtube using said laptop with multiple games too.

"I'm not saying you shouldn't buy a laptop, but don't buy a laptop." Spoken like a true gamer.

She knows. True Player Lion. Never buy laptops for gaming purposes

Honestly though these days, gaming laptops have gotten really good on their own. And especially so factoring in the cringe desktop GPU shortages in the recent years, resulting in higher pricing, etc. Getting a good laptop then maybe plugging it into an external monitor (though laptop displays have gotten good these days too) has been a common solution for some people in the past couple years; especially for those are move around a little more often. The good ones might be more expensive to start with compared to the modular nature of a desktop for peeps on a budget though. so in the end I think it really just depends on the individual's needs and resources.

Botan sneezes. AMEEEEEEEEENNNNN!!!!

Gaming laptop preferred only if you're constantly on the move and an ITX + monitor + peripherals is not convenient enough. I owned a gaming laptop for my uni years but have since upgraded to a proper desktop.

1:26 here u go comrade

1:26 Blessed Shishiron noises

ok botan i accept your advice. looking forward to bringing my cpu, monitor, keyboard, mouse, extension wire, and desk wherever i go

Gaming laptop is bad ino Botan lookin cute as always love her so much :'D she knows her thing huh?

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With the advent of Mini-ITX PC builds with overall volume the size as a lunchbox, its portable enough that you can put inside a backpack with a 60% mech keyboard, mouse, headset, and a 15" portable monitor, and you're good to go. Of course you need to have a place with an available wall outlet if you're planning on gaming outside your house.

Im using a gaming laptop right now due work related events but from what is worth, botan is absolutely right, desktop is better.

I hope i have a sister like botan Damn

this actually happened to me a few years ago lmao botan tech tips 10/10

Gaming laptop is great but it has limited Potential 1st of all the Cooling, Its not great even devs says it really good at thermal but all laptops thermals are still the same 2nd Thermal Throttling But it can still play triple A title's but lower the settings of some games to give the fans something to do

Absolutely. Couldn’t say it better. Other than i tell my friends I’ll source parts for them. Well that was before the part apocalypse.

Well... that's kinda based. If you need portability and need good performance on the go, PLUS you don't want your electricity bills go up a gaming laptop is the way to go. I have a ASUS G15 with RTX3060 and happy with it. Also the prices in my country to build a desktop PC are really high, maybe twice the price comparing to United States or Japan. I think it depends on use case IMO

Considering how prices have increased for PC recently, buying a laptop can be cheaper than buying a PC for the same spec if you search well. I know someone who bought a laptop for $1300 where its equivalent for PC was something like $1500-2000. So he got the advantage of being able to move anywhere he wants and for a cheaper price. (there even was a double reduction, the original price being $1700)

Bless you.

As someone with a 2013 MSI gaming laptop, I can confirm i5 is true you will eventually hit a wall. Granted, my computer is 9 years old but I was not able to run Elden Ring. It kept crashing upon startup.

Glad to see the return of Botan Tech Tips

this is why i love botan

She gives you a pro gamer/pc expert advice and sneezes as an extra gift. I feel like I own her a SC.

That's strong advice, portable devices have a hard performance ceiling. And it's even without touching on how un-ergonomic laptops are for gaming.

I love thst it ended with a sneeze

Botan give me advice about gaming platforms Me : I'm very thankful for ur timeless wisdom wise lion

She's right. The games I play on my laptop are 20 year old CRPGs. I mostly use it for work. My actual desktop is a dedicated gaming machine & media server hooked up to my tv in my living room

i own a gaming laptop, and the main reason why is because I'll be entering college (or university for those abroad) at around the middle of this year. I guess college life requires a lot of on the go stuff, im not much of a gamer anyways, and in my chosen course I think we'll be using a lot of autocad/other rendering software. But, I hope I can finally switch to a desktop once I've made a steady flow of income.

Boton spitting straight FAQs!

I like how after the practical advice you treated us to a cute sneeze. Arigatou

I can guarantee you that the sneeze was part of the specs you need to remember before buying a pc

alasan gua mending milih laptop gaming: 1.praktis (kalo banjir bisa di gotong) 2.gaperlu beli komponen kyk monitor 3.cocok buat kerja

Shows us what she knows! I spent all of my college years with a gaming laptop, and played a ton of stuff, not to mention rendered 3d animations! Sure, rendering took forever, the games would slow down to a handicapped snail's pace and the poor machine died unceremoniously while rendering a video, but it got me through! I totally never wanted a pc all that time and totally didn't get ecstatic when I got a desktop!

External graphic cards are a thing though. I predict that the return of the laptop dock will happen soon, because the thunderbolt connection isn't fast enough and the cable lenght have to be short, so it's better to have a new docking port at the bottom of laptops to attache to dock that has the graphics card, extra storage, ports etc...

I wish I saw this 3 years ago🤣 I’m stuck with a gaming laptop that cost the same as a normal pc setup

I sneezed at the same time as her but the contrasts of the sneeze are huge in many ways.

The last part is the best advice AHEK

Amen!!

Chat: I thinking about buying a gaming laptop. Botan: And I took that *personally*.

I was about to mention that you really can get gaming laptops that will keep you well up to date with current and future games for... quite a while. Then I saw their budget and all that went out the window. Gonna have a bit of a tough time building an average desktop right now at that budget.

bless you botan

i 100% agreed with botan. i bought enough gaming laptops that said the performance would be superb, i'm not too impressed with the result. i decide to buy a desktop one day, the performance is freaking world apart. the only reason you want to buy gaming laptop is you're traveling a lot and need your full gaming experience with you at all time (which is a legit reason). if your gaming laptop gonna sit at home for 90% of the time, do yourself a favor and get a desktop.

Such a gamer veteran response, I think I'd have to go for a laptop, it's not guaranteed that I'm going to get a permanent visa here in Australia (been here for 2.5 years) so having a desktop is hassle to have when moving.

Yes, completely agree. Had a gaming laptop, it borked right at warranty. Ended up using it as an extremely expensive office laptop. It eventually offed itself entirely because "lol laptop guts"

botan is correct. my 1st very own pc is a laptop during my college. when i started working i stick to laptop but the choices are getting more and more limited and my laptop is looking more like a desktop (with extra monitor, keyboard, mouse, speakers, and mic) finally build my own 1st PC last year (BTO) didnt look back since. Also, if you wana game long hours on laptop, the heat is gonna be terrible. you cant cheat physics. playing WWZ on my laptop was hot AF. now playing on my desktop is like chill af. the difference in gaming experience is huge as well. with higher refresh rate on a monitor, smoother fps, you wil realize your movement is more smooth.

_FINALLY_ i love Botan now! She says the right words!

Botan talking about everything else: *Giggles* Botan when laptops are mentioned: *"Who has summoned my wrath?"*

I actually use the Nitro5 laptop for 3D modelling lessons but now I use it to play a few games like War Thunder or Enlisted. I'm not much of a hardcore gamer that needs the latest in gaming tech as long as I am enjoying playing games for now.

Never realized botan is so knowledgeable about this. She is amazing

She's 100% right. I have an MSI GF63 with GTX 1650, 12 GB RAM, and i5 9th Gen for around 675 USD. My friend bought a prebuilt Gaming PC with Free Monitor for the same price. I know it's different from country to country, but if you're looking for a full gaming experience with a PC don't buy a gaming laptop. Build a PC because even though the initial buying price might be steep, the PC is modular. You can always change the parts later and not have to buy a whole new laptop just so that you can get a spec upgrade.

she needs to have a Botan's tech tips series I swear

Agreed, the only reason i have laptop is for works and lecture choose the one with enough ports and light on weight

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Normally Botan would be correct, but due to the inflated price of GPUs it's actually much more reasonable to just buy a laptop or pre-built PC than to try and find a single decent GPU for your custom build right now. If you can find a pre-built on sale with a decent GPU, that's what i'd go for. At the end of the day it's still upgradeable down the line.

Not that I don't want to build a gaming PC, but due to my work I have to travel a lot so I had to settle with a gaming laptop.

cute botan with great tech advice. also botan sneeze tskr.

the gamer sneeze. Bless her lionheart

Basically saying , with a laptop its less customizable rather than a pc where if something breaks you can easily replace it.

few months back its recomended to get gaming laptop because at that time graphic card price very expensive because of miner and slapper, but now their price going back to normal so yes follow Botan advice if you want to into gaming on PC

As expected of Botan.

Cute botan knows what is good and bad for gaming devices ❤️

Yup, that's botan tech tips for you

Gamer Lion is one of us !!! PCMR ftw !!!!

So Shishiron's first PC is a build to order? That's a new thing to know. I thought that Shishiron's someone who's like already building her first PC when she's still a baby and tinkering with old parts.

In the end, it really just depends on your own circumstances. Idt there is a better option. Just depends on what you need.

I was honestly so excited to build my own pc but thanks to the crappy scalpers my dream was ruined and I had to get a gaming laptop. Though it's honestly been a pretty good experience. Took out its battery and undervolted it so it's temps are pretty solid around 70c maxing out to 80c when playing high end games.

She's right about the things you want a PC for change once you get a PC. I helped my brother build an entry level desktop for gaming not long ago, but now he wants to do video editing and blender too.

She spitting straight facts, but laptops better suit my lifestyle. I'll probably get a desktop when I get a nicer place someday and/or don't have to travel so much.

So lucky I built my PC in Feb 2020 before the prices went insane.

I have felt the limit of buying a gaming laptop, however the choice to get a laptop instead of a desktop is better for right now since I’m still a student and I needed my work station to be more mobile

Yes Botan but there is a thing called a chip shortage right now, not all of us have special channels we can get parts from. What you are saying would have been true were it 3 years ago. Laptops right now are one of the only ways to get a modern gaming setup without giving money to some waste of space miner/scalper.

true gamer right there. she's right. I bought a gaming laptop only because of work, but yeah totally limited when it comes to upgrades plus it costs more than building a desktop.

1:25 here o_o

Pretty much my take on it as well, that's definitely the voice of experience. I don't need the portability of a laptop (and in cases where I do, I have my smartphone and a work laptop to cover it). So it always seemed like one of those "pay more for less" deals. Funny she mentions build-to-order. I learned how to build my own in my early teens, but these days I definitely do buy from independent vendors because it's less hassle and, frankly, I run out of patience and my airflow sucks lol.

Sasuga Botan , the PC Expert , also that sneeze was so cute .

She is speaking facts I also wanted to play Elden Ring but my gaming laptop just barely couldn't make the cut to run Elden ring because I use a gtx1050 ti and Elden ring needs at minimum a gtx1060 I then tried searching the price for a gtx 2060 so I could stay ahead and I got shocked by the numbers ,then I searched again for the bare minimum gtx1060 and I'm still floored. Now I decided to get a ps5 instead which is a better investment for gaming (if I even manage to get my hands on 1) In conclusion avoid laptops and get a PC or console if gaming is your aim

One of the key limitations of a laptop are the power and thermal constraints to ensure they're portable and doesn't set your house on fire. Using an extreme example, an RTX 4090 Laptop chip is around the same performance tier as the RTX 4070Ti/RTX 3090 Desktop. Meanwhile the actual 4090 is in a class of its own.

Friends who I've talked to who have only done the gaming laptop scenario only do it out of necessity and it's not exactly a lasting piece of hardware. If you have the space for it, get a desktop. It might end up being a bit more at first to get the mouse/KB/monitors but in the long run it'll be cheaper. The monitor, mouse/kb, and even the case typically carries over into my next build so it's just an increasingly cheaper affair. Also something you need to keep in mind when comparing the two is air flow. Keep in mind that "gaming laptops" are a bunch of high end components that get hot and are all crammed/sandwiched into a very small space so airflow is pretty much non-existent. The compromise you have to make is ramming air through the bottom with the stands that they make for em, which isn't a great solution and they still burn out quickly comparatively. Now keep in mind, when we say you shouldn't get a laptop, that comes with a big asterisk. Obviously some living situations don't really allow for a desktop so go for what suits your needs in that case. But if you can avoid it, you def should.

True

Damnnn. Lion dropping Knowledge bombs

Its absolutley right what she said, but i think it depens on the user... At least for me, i bought a Gaming laptop not just for gaming, but also for my school, my works needs a GPU... So a laptop is very practical on that manner

yeah I agree that getting a gaming laptop, especially if we're considering long term, isn't that great of a choice but I have a different reasoning. Gaming laptops can get real loud, have thermal constraints, gets real hot to the touch (especially over time), and especially drain more juice than just getting a normal laptop. Not to mention the cheaper or mid range options almost always have low build quality, crappy screens, subpar speakers, and batteries that drain real quick. I'm a college student who needs a laptop to carry around almost every day, so I use a mid-range Dell laptop that's got good build quality, decent speakers, good CPU and memory for the work I do, and quiet fans. The integrated AMD graphics are just enough to run my games, even DS3 at lowest settings, to keep me entertained. I have games that I've been craving to play like Nier, FF7R and Elden Ring, so I'm saving up for a PS5. I don't need a PC/gaming laptop because I'm already comfortable and happy with this decent laptop that I use for work, and if it's for gaming honestly it's way more cost-efficient getting a console than selling my laptop for a gaming laptop with specs that match the PS5 and not to mention matches the build quality of my current laptop.

she gave me this advice at the perfect time because its my birthday soon and i was looking to buy a pc or laptop

I have a top spec 2019 Predator Triton 500, and she's right. Thing feels like I'm frying eggs on it if I play games these days. The problem might be with the almost 4 year old hardware, or me not cleaning the fans every week. But it still boots up faster than all of my friends' PCs.

The fact that I got my HP omen 15 with a 2060, i7-10750H for less than 1200 and barely used was the reason I went for it.

Makes perfect sense, if you ever want to stream down the line, do some kind of rendering or other specific kind of work, then PC will be better. The only use for laptop would be if let's say your work demands that you meet up with your employer and client in your office or somewhere else, other than that, I don't see gaming in Airport or a Cafe as enjoyable in any way shape or form.