Botswana's President Masisi: 'I want the Germans to feel what we feel' | DW News Africa 

Like proper colonialist masters

@@martiendejong8857germany arent really colonizers anymore, better look at france

​@Exodius3 if they aren't colonizers why the Germans open their mouth about elephants, climate change etc., in African countries?

@@Exodius3 they were novices at colonizing and never got good at it before WWI started and they lost all their colonies.

@@samsmith2635 More talking about the now situation. Germans feel guilty for their rather small acts of colonization (as they should ofc), but france is doing whatever they want in africa

and after the winter we could get 20k new elephants. Dare I say, win-win

and not long later you will find 10k elephants roaming the streets as strays

Doesn't work like that. They need vast lands to roam free. And they will die from cold exposure unlike their distant extinct relative the mammoth

Elefantenschnitzel zum Mittagessen vergenussferkeln. Schmackofatz

It costs $100K a year to keep an elephant in western countries, it's not like adopting a cat.

Botswana couldnt, even if they wanted to 😂

​@@NLJeffEUwhat will Germany do when he ships the Elephants? Shoot down the ships and kill 20,000 Elephants?

@@JajaofAbuja im pretty sure the government of Botswana doesn't have the money and resources to do so 😅

@@NLJeffEU Europe gets majority of their money and resources from African countries. They definitely have the resources.

@@JajaofAbuja with resources i mean the boat, etc. 😂 the amount of copium you are using is insane btw

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Seems like a well-read and articulate guy.

@@idehenebenezer You okay?

@@idehenebenezer Learn basic critical thinking skills and you won't fall for that stuff

Thats not the point at all. We dont tell the people of Botswana to not hunt. We tell Germans they are not allowed to bring elefant trophies into Germany. If they have an elefant problem they can hunt them themselves. They try to make this a moral problem by using buzzwords like neo-colonialism and twisted logic, but actually this is all about money.

@@Rollmops94 This does beg the question why Germans shouldn't be allowed to bring elephant trophies from legitimate hunting expeditions into the country. - There are about two viable reasons I can think of: risk of extinction and it being unethical due to the animal's intelligence and trauma of the surviving elephants. We just learned that there is no risk of extinction in Botswana - quite the contrary. So is it the ethical concern? Or is there another reason I'm not aware of?

​​@@AnakianajAs a German I agree with the ban. There are situations where there are no viable alternatives to killing an animal. But doing it for fun and keeping a trophy is highly unethical to me. I do understand it's an economical problem for Botswana though. If the elephants were the problem, they could still hunt them themselves.

@@Anakianaj Of course it's about ethics. Trophy hunting is the reason many animal species have gone extinct. Not to mention a disturbing practice by itself.

Very interesting. Funny DW didn't bring this up in this interview

20K elephants is no joke. People are afraid of little foxes and bears. Imagine these big folks running around.

​@@j.erickson8571It has always been the elephant's natural habitat. Botswana so cqlled people need to leave or live in small area so the environment is not damaged.

​@@j.erickson8571 Russia could help repay their karmic debt by adopting them, placing them somewhere in the southern territories. Time for them to stop killing and respect life, the right to life. China could help. Don't make war. Preserve life.

Botswana is one of the very few African countries who have a functioning administration, and constant improvement for everyone. It is time the world recognises this and welcomes Botswana into the world community, even though it is a relatively small country. If they say there is a problem, then this IS NOT A JOKE.

@@Yahyia-cv3sx i had kind of the same thought, they could help with the ecosystem of thawing the tundra. But thats just as impossible as sending them to germany.

Yes, he seems all right, that man. Botswana seems to be doing well. Mostly mining and tourism, it seems.

Smh if only Zimbabwe could be more like Botswana

Yeah Botswana a really up and coming country, particularly because of their good government, higher education rates and natural resource wealth. We may see a powerful African nation emerge from them within the next 25 years.

He is uninformed on Germany, though. We don't hunt problematic species. Take wolves! We throw money into keeping them safe. Instead, sheperds give up their business, ponies & foals get eaten, people are told to clap their hands for protection. Maybe Elephants can be trained to chase the wolves back to somwhere they can hopefully be culled?

@@levismith7444 you mean south Africa

In a country with with less than 3 million people

And over half a million square kilometres of land. I'm surprised you can even find an Elephant in all that space.

@@MrTyp00n Elephants live in matriarchal groups but still each individual elephant requires 5 square kilometers as its range for feeding and nurture. Botswana has an area of 581,729 square kilometers but the range of its entire elephant population of 130,000 would require over 650,000 square kilometers more than the entire area of the country and leaving no space for humans or any other animals. It is a case of severe overpopulation of elephants.

@@shyamapple9060 You forget to mention that because Elephants are pack animals they can happily share space, meaning you need about 1 square kilometre per Elephant so long as that Elephant is free to roam into land set aside for other individual Elephants. Meaning you could set aside 130 thousand square kilometres of Botswana, and still have a country bigger than Germany with only about 2% of its Human population.

At the moment he diverted from the idea of ofering the elephants to another african nations, his lies and true psychopath goals become clear.

We have no problem with that but stay where you are don't come to Europe. that's all. Be happy

Period

@@LuLu-yo8udLULU sounds like a a certain African from the south of Africa, when did you become a European.

They couldnt send 1 if they wanted too 😂

@@LuLu-yo8ud did you know that racism is against youtube community guidelines?

Agreed,a lot of money from hunting packages goes towards hiring would be poachers and giving them jobs,or hire people who genuinely love animals ,and protecting them. In other places to detour poaching,have shaved or completely "castrated" the bulls horns so poachers don't shoot them. One they don't care if the tusk is small or big ,2 it messes up the ecosystem.bulls with longer horns,get the cows,which keeps there DNA in the gene pool,a lot of male elephants can't even find mates due to the fact female elephants are not attracted to them , or if they do mount cows ,the gene pool of the big strong bulls gets withered away .Tusks are not just weapons ,they use them to uproot certain foods in dry season, to move things,create resting areas etc,same with rhinos. They don't even understand that the import trophy does not come with ivory ,which a that was the initial argument,that it's for ivory,second it makes no sense that they can not sell it legally. Agree brother

@@javiermartinezjr8849 So well explained Javier, thank you!!

@@javiermartinezjr8849 There is so much more money in ecotoursim than there is in hunting, this is propoganda that hunters claim to continue their practices.

Are we still talking about the country whose president presented stools made from elephant feet to other country leaders?

@@roach7336 How nasty you are, good job!

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kostenlos? Davon war nie die rede. Kind, fang an zu sparen.

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True psychological warfare, reminds me of commmercials targetting kids so they start nagging to their parents in the store.

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True but it feels very typical to our politics. Elephants are endangered animal, can't be that individual countries did well and don't have this problem anymore.

Meanwhile we, when a single bear steps foot on our soil... 🔪🔪🔪🩸🐻

Botswana had a visionary leader at the time of independence who decided to invest their diamond wealth for their people like Norway did with their oil wealth. Diamonds were not discovered in Botswana until the year of independence, so it was a backwater that was ignored by the Europeans who focused more on stripping the resources of South Africa dry for themselves. So the diamonds were in the control of Botswana the whole time after it was found out and that helped greatly in developing the country.

Maybe Botswana becomes one day like Wakanda.

which is why they’re trying to restrict it under the guise of ecology or whatever

@@iche9373 Well, take a look at South Africa and Botswana starts to look like Wakanda.

​@@Melior_TraianoWhat are you smoking😂Botswana is better than S.A.Its just S.A has a bigger Economy

It sounds cool but, sacrifice is a virtue. So it's important to point out, that the population density of Germany is 60x. The difference is absolutely insane, like if Botswana had a population of 150 mil instead of less than 3. The 60% of the remaining land means still the population density of 40x less than Germany. Even if they wanted they are unable to manage all that land mass, so they set some part aside. ...talking about sacrifices..

It's a ridiculous claim, you are a population of 3 million and your country is bigger than germany and switzerland combined. You won't even be able to use that land

⁠@@eduard348elephants are natural grazers. Humans need more to survive. And this is Africa we’re talking about. You wanna talk about sustainability, you should understand that they have a vastly different climate which makes it impossible to nearly sustain as large of a population as Germany has today.

⁠@@Ame865people seem to often forget why some places have such a large population while other don’t.

@@eduard348 I am pretty sure you can use land for agriculture beyond what your populace needs to export

Then where is my elephant, dammit???? I want my elephant!!!!!!

@@inotaishu1 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Botswana style 😊

And which point did you particularly pick up? As a German you are being very sketchy.

im pretty sure it was a threat not an offer :P

Preach 👍🏾👍🏾

I want more leaders like this man.

Absolutely!

So I guess no one nor country can learn from their previous mistakes?

Isn't South Africa a democracy?

Politics listens to such lines

I feel like if there's ever a 'president of United Earth' it will have to be an African politician. Obviously not all countries on the continent are running smoothly, but there's a few that have really excellent democratic leaders, of a caliber the west (or 'global north') no longer seems to be able to produce, probably because our too comfy living standards no longer necessitate having competent leadership to run our overly wealthy countries.

Using buzzwords like neo colonialism actually ruined it.

​@@TheBlackfall234 neo-colonialism is a word. How is using a word for it's intended purpose bad?

@@TopOfAllWorlds what about germany deciding not wanting to import ivory is neo-colonialism ?

If he seems intelligent, you need education.

Talking Head.

​@ursinecanine9657 lol, empirically. He is more educated than you or anyone in your family. That is a fact not boast 😂 Coming from an American

Also they break down many trees which is a source of food for giraffes. If left uncontrolled, giraffes could be endangered. A giraffe grazing on a short tree as opposed to a much taller tree is at risk of not spotting predators and will likely be killed.

I am unfamiliar with the area. How are they being terrorised?

How about controlling the number of humans ?

So why don't the government give farmers more money to better defend themselves and their livestock?

@@samjoshi1812 they ravage through their crops and destroy properties. All the villages around the game reserves and national parks

Jesus is returning soon🔥 Repent and turn away from your sins to obtain salvation 🤗🤗.

Well-spoken but is he logical? Germany can decide what not to import into their own borders at any time for any reason. They are only regulating their own territory and borders with this decision. Other countries has no right to tell them to import anything they don't want

Why should the innocent elephants be punished? Let them live in beautiful Botswana! 😉

​@@martinfiedler4317 no they need to to go to Germany and get trampolines

@@martinfiedler4317 Germany >>>

If they can even survive in the environment knowing it gets cold in the winter, and also germany would have a massive new animal that would dominate other wildlife. And elephants during musk season is when they get extremely aggressive and would kill you without hesitation if it's rampaging.

@@wesleythomas7705 That's literally the whole point, no joke the Botswana president explicitly stated that

But I want to know how

The head of the state that lie online to justify psychopath industry.

@@meerkats9317 by plane, ship... it´s been done for centuries. And if the elephants don´t arrive safely to germany the world will judge the german government as responsible for the elephants welfare.

He also threatened to leave 10K elephants in Hyde park in london 😂😂

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I see math isn’t your strong suit

@@TheSakufighter You fun at parties😂

@@nelsonbwire2059 I tend to avoid gummy boozers at all costs. Parties are for the dullards who are plugged in to a sick society. No thanks.

This, Botswanas issue with the elephant population, is reported several times in the past. It's not the case that this isn't known! What he wants to do is selling ivory on the bid of international dealers and let the rich come to pay for the killing! And he talks about other African countries not doing enough to save elephants. That's NOT of Germanys business. Why isn't he talking to those leaders? Environment and wildlife management can be done differently!

@@teardrop-in-a-fishbowlWell, Angola has taken 8000 elephants. And those African countries aren’t lecturing Botwsana like Germany is doing right now.

Im Winter gibts nichts zu futtern, und die ganze Landschaft ist von Autobahnen und Eisenbahnen durchgerastert. Solche Tiere können bei uns nur im Zoo überleben.

Indeed we should - back to our safari lifestyles! on a serious note tho: it would destroy our infrastructure. We've got Streets, Highways and Train Tracks basically everywhere

​@@lukas-kevynmuller6697yet we are impacted by Verdi strikes

There is too cold

Crime to even think about that. Just thinking about the animals like products or a resource...wow, just illegal in an ecological sense on so many levels.

Well it is humans who have 10-1000 (dependent on place) times bigger population density tha is natural for animals of our body size, not any other species

Lmao

How is Canada? Canadian dishes, wanna munch on those Im from Bots🇧🇼

@@modisaneunity4534 it's nice, but cold in the winter. People from all around the world live here (in Toronto) so there's lots of different dishes to try

You mean the 20.000 that just destroyed Berlin? They went Richtung Dresden.....

Apparently in the room of German parliament

In the P5️⃣gon and any other place worldwide were conspiracies are being held in order to hijack ressources...

@@terransunited Up to 20000!

The elephant in the room are the moment he diverted from the idea of ofering the elephants to another african nations that accept to have them... His lies and psychopath goals got clear.

And so wrong on so many one too

@@deinsilverdrac8695 Where was he wrong? He seemed pretty educated and informed to me. I honestly agreed with him on every point.

@@deinsilverdrac8695 What do you mean? He's an excellent leader for this country and its wildlife.

​@@FL-uv1xielephant as food source is not economically feasible because elephant is essentially wild animal, not domesticated enough. And they are smart too to the point they can act for revenge if their relative is killed. This is well documented. The elephant handler in the zoo relies on the elephant trust to not get injured or killed. Elephant is not cow, and it is cheaper to farm cow than elephant for food. If Europe push for ban for thropy import, what stop them to push for ban for meat import from protected animals?

@@FL-uv1xi It seems you missed the point he's trying to make, he is showing the German government hypocrisy of banning the trophies to feel good about themselves but doesn't really help their conservation efforts. Maybe if the Germans had ten of thousands elephant to care of they will understand how difficult it is to take care of these majestic animals.

This was pure comedy gold! 😂

hahahha the comment section is the best 😂

We have the pigs 🐷 over here in Botswana,South Africa and Nambia 😊might as well exchange

At least they can actually freely vote and not have their elections rigged like majority of African nations.

well said👌

Sounds like a dictator

There shouldn't be one person having much power at all. Society should be more egalitarian. With current technology ot is possible to make democracy more direct

The implications here is that African elections, noticeably in Southern Africa, are unfortunately turning dictatorship due to blind party devotion. So called liberation parties continue to rule with controversy for years after independence, with corruption negatively affecting the masses. Ruling political parties, using "democracy" to retain eternal power have turned into dictatorships. The USA is not an exception, with Trump's MAGA cult, threat democracy?? Africans are learning to elect leadership the likes of President Masisi, party devotion is not working for us.

Except he's wrong and will doom the species to extinction

@@deinsilverdrac8695dude stop talking you’ve got no idea what’s he’s saying you’re so dense

​@@deinsilverdrac8695nah theyre doing well

❤❤very proud of my neighbours and their brilliant president too, caring for their Ellie's and conservation in general! Us humans are greedy and undeserving of our own planet with its abundance of God's creation!!!!! Not caring and thinking properly about what is actually needed to live respectfully and sharing properly all round!

Very true well said

Germany also uses hunting to control their animal population Its not about that, its a blanket ban on hunting trophies from endangered species. You can still control your population in whatever way you want

Wabaya

Agree, well said!

Hunting trophies being imported across the German border is a German problem. While elephant conservation in Botswana is not. This is about tourism and the economy, not about the elephants. I think the locals are able to hunt for themselves. I'm sorry about the hit on the economy though.

😂😂😂 let's see how they manage 20k elephants

I am German, and I also agree! The elephants will soon speak German!

​@@anon8206Elefant wird Botswanisch sprechen

Lack of cooperation between governments . Animals still have a place here on earth, and we have predators that go hungry.

My family lives in rural Kenya. People are killed by elefants on a weekly basis. They also destroy power lines, wells, farmland. More so than all other animals in the area combined.

@@martiendejong8857 how is this germanys problem? You cannot force them to import things they don't want

@@GhostLGNDClashRoyale then they should stop telling Africans what to do.

@@GhostLGNDClashRoyale They're not actually sending elephants, what the they're saying is "if you want to lecture us on how to manage our elephants so badly, how about we send you some so you can see how difficult to manage they are?"

Because it is not Germany's job to decide policy for Africa anymore. This is why the Botawanian president called it colonialist. Germany wants to sit back hundreds of miles away and tell Botswana what they should do, as if they know the issue better than the locals.

@@awesomedavid2012 every country has the right to reject certain products (or products from certain countries). whether the other country likes it or not. This have nothing to do with Colionist.

@@awesomedavid2012 Oh no. The Germans want wild life to not be gone on world!

@@crusader__alex3520 they can’t even control their own wildlife crisis what right do they have to even comment double standard mantra they are colonialists hence their behaviours

@@awesomedavid2012 they never said They can't sell it elsewhere, just that Germany won't be a customer. Is Botswana that dependent on Germany?? I'm unsure, but I doubt it... This is more about someone being told "ok, you can do that, but not here on my turf," and one guy taking it as a personal attack because ego and entitlement; that's not colonialism. I hope that Botswana's people can manage their elephant populations, without their leaders making it the problem of other countries. They live there, why can't they hunt them? Is it about preventing elephants from causing damage, or is it about squeezing every last penny out of that elephant before you allow someone to kill it? (I understand my delivery/ choice of words is hard to understand over text, maybe even come across as rude, but I am asking this genuinely. To be clearer, If it IS such a problem, which we know it is, why do they HAVE to rely on foreign tourists from ONE country to bring back trophies? I am just a little confused at that argument. Is the German tourism to there that significant? Why not just shift gears to sell that product to other countries instead? If anyone from either of these two countries can shed more light, I would welcome and highly appreciate it.)

It’s like when EU tried to charge SIDS for carbon footprints before understanding that they should pay for the damages.

At the moment ghe diverted from the idea of just ofering the elephants to another close african nation, the lie and blackmail becomes clear.

@@ricardoxavier827 In Zimbabwe they would be poached, with the connivance of well bribed. politicians. Germany is better at rules and regulation. Germany should purchase 20,000 .

That's true. The problem is that the EU wants to prevent those who do.

He is reacting to the ban on world wide trophy hunting. Somehow he is believing that botswana are the hole world. The chinese and USA will not stop buying their psychopath pleasure services and products. So, his intervention are clearly visibility against nature protection world goals.

Yet, it's the german government dictating to its citizens what they can or cannot freely buy from other countries.

you can find a buyer for anything. white rhino horn. tiger teeth.

Um going from 1.3 million elephants in the 80s to 400,000 doesn't seem like their doing fine 🥴

@@irvingnavarro1394 That statistic is for the whole of Africa - of which Botswana is only a small part. Today, Botswana has about 130'000 elephants. So close to a third of all in Africa. I'd call that substantially more than just "doing fine".

It was his, 'where are their elephants?'

"Who are they?" A much more powerful country

Then do what your known for as your ancestors and see if we give a damn​@@eingeist21

What backlash? Germany just banned the import of elephant trophies to GERMANY. It has nothing to do with Botswana. It's a law made FOR GERMANY!

Fair question. But it was partly answered: Income from hunting safaris. Or rather the lack of it.

They want money, the more countries they can export to the more money they get

Right. Hunting in order to mount an animal's head above one's fireplace is rather barbaric. Elephants are intelligent social creatures and the hunting of them is abusive and unnecessary. It' one thing if you're hunting for survival, but hunting for sport is just sick.

​@@ChefMimsyI've zero interest in hunting elephant, but I promise you there is much reward in most sporthunting. I doubt that you have ever hunted for food or sport, because you state an emotion rather than make a statement of experience.

Hunting for food makes good sense, but not so much for sport. Obviously, elephants are sentient beings​ and should NOT be hunted for sport. Perhaps Botswana might consider birth control. It's been done for other overpopulated animals.@JD-tn5lz

Not in a zoo bro

Aren't there already some sitting there grazing on Taxpayers 💶

@@ruvanefriebus-cv6td Botswana didn't keep theirs in the zoo. They allocated 40% of their land mass to animals. Germany isn't that big to allocate even 10% for elephants.

I know a few warm places in Franconia and Baden Wurtemburg we could host them.

@@SamSurrealism Botswana is twice as big as Germany. Botswana used 40% of its landmass for conservation. Even as at that, elephants still encroach on people's properties. Germany doesn't have where to keep 20,000 elephants.

That area should be populated with more free roaming bison and pronghorns.

No you guys are wicked

@sharonanthonique1255 and you worship them.

​@@sharonanthonique1255😂😂

​@@AmonAnon-vw3hrI worship Myself

First try to live with your, still quite small, Wolf population. Elephants are way more dangerous.

He is lying. At the moment he diverted from the idea of ofering the elephants to another close african nation.

@@ricardoxavier827 They already do, and none are interested in taking more. And the African nations are not banning people coming to his country to hunt and bring back the trophies which is a major source of revenue for the conservations effort. Germany is increasing the problem without offering absolutely no solutions, and even if they offered money, that has strings attached, which are not like a tourist that came with an specific purpose in mind

Recreational (not commercial) hunting has a centuries long history of good conservation and habitat preservation.

@@KuriosDiogenesJar I don't know about that. What exactly are you basing this on?

​@@butterfish-g9fhistory

@@butterfish-g9f 1. When animals over populate they become invasive to the environment and other animal populations who have the right to share the same land. 2. When populations become too much there is conflict with humans and when humans become angry we devastate populations of those who hurt us without care to “conservation”. The government cant control all these humans if the elephants kill a human or destroy their property. Since we have a right to defend ourselves and our property against even other humans, how does a violent animal stand any chance? 3. Hunting licenses are very expensive and those funds are used almost exclusively for conservation. Further the licenses are only issued for animals that are causing the mentioned issues or are sick. 4. In terms of the elephants, humans endangered them because of Ivory which has nothing to do with hunting trophies, these are legit trade for african countries that support them to be able to conserve such large areas of their land mass. Hope that provides some insight!!

uk has 90% of its forests gone. what right do we have to criticise borneo for chopping down 50%? or 90%? it is an issue.

They can't even judge. In a lot of cases their conservation efforts are worse than Botswana. You'll find few Western countries that have put aside at least 40% of their land for wildlife.