Bouncing arrows and Duck hunting (not) 

Booo...

dog lifts up from behind the reeds and laughts

Nice. Two drums and a cymbal fall off a cliff.

... potentially an origin of the phrase. Likely wrong, but I can dream.

...I applaud you. On your cheeks. Hard.

They are faithful replicas of the Quacken pictured in the mallard accord of 158 AD

The artworks suggests animals were a lot more cartoonish in the past.

Hard times breed hard men... and even harder ducks.

Yes they are very accurate and historical ... but a bit smaller ... than "big bird" was but the colour looks about right ... just bigger...

@danthe RPGhero You sir are out of line!

Quite right!

@@tods_workshop Hi Tod, I am finding YT vids constantly 'freezing' when I watch them, but only on certain channels, i.e. all the 'Community of the Sword' , gun channels and others. I don't know why but I suspect the purge of political channels is overspilling onto all the other areas that YT is known to dislike - History, weapons etc. Maybe it is time to start posting to other platforms such as Rumble, Bitchute etc.? I for one would rather view all you guys on a platform that does not have an overt political agenda. P.S. I suspect that people who do not follow more conservative news channels may not be experiencing this problem but it is very real - this vid took nearly 1/2 an hour to play rather decreasing its effect. I have this problem on your channel, Lindybeige,Scholagladiatoria,English Martial Arts, Skallagrim, Thegn Thrand, Shadiversity, Metatron etc.

@@andytopley314 Maybe the problem is in your setup. All the channels you mentioned are playing fine in my browser / app.

@@andytopley314 have you compared the effect to that on non-historical-weapons channels? It could be that all of your YT is playing up

@@andytopley314 they hinder your favourite channels and your activity to get you to update. It’s a scam and they disrupt your actions increasingly until you update and receive their latest brain washing , time wasting , subliminal messages. They want to control you and they hold back what they think you want and they know from your user history. Don’t let the evil control

Im sure he is already aware of these. Although even Tod wasnt, which is a bit of a mistery to me to be honest :D

It's amazing how "stupid" ideas on medieval youtube start like tiny snowballs and then through multiple iterations we get something huge.

Exactly! 😆

I can already hear the gears in jorgs mind turning... be quite and you will here them to "he .. he ..he .. let me show it's features " See they are there alright.. "He .. he .. he "

Vogeljäger!

BUT they are exciting!

IKR ! Made my day to see someone that passionnate

Thank you, I appreciate that and there is so much I don't know but as a YT 'celebrity' people assume you do know things, often everything, but of course I don't, I am just lucky enough that I can use this platform to explore and learn first hand.

@@tods_workshop maybe you've done this already (I'm still exploring this channel) but it would be cool to see you experiment with different indigenous hunting weapons to see how effective they are! 💚

She has the patience of a saint. But is Tod brave enough to eat when she cooks these ducks for him?

@@IamOutOfNames chewy

Tod’s got a missus?

Clearly you are referring to the dream where a giant rubber ducky is threatening to peck you to bits...and Tod is a member of a secret society that is at war with said rubber duckies...

Let's hope he doesn't miss.

The vocal “Angus Dei” (same tune) by voces8 is a superb version

@@johnnevin7320 I love Agnus Dei, and im glad that not only other recoginize adagio for strings but Agnus Dei as well.. (Kharak is burning)

Samuel Barber is a genius composer

@@primachpepe8597 nice reference. That and the Movie Platoon

@@emknight84 honestly never seen it but i am aware of it.. but i hope it is used in a similar fashion to Homeworld

I am sure you are right - me messing about just shows the potential, not the fact

these are called frog crotch arrows

@@schlomoshekelstein908 ah, thanks!

That's a pretty good point. Especially if multiple people shot at the same time into a group of birds

An oil or wax coating on the head would also help preserve an essential fluid flow character of that edge. Water flows along the face, comes to a corner, and can't follow around the corner.

@@hanelyp1 good point (Ha ha)

Using duck fat to hunt ducks...

@@ndld4955 yes but not Muscovy duck - it's a Cornish thing

I can well believe it is primarily (or only) COM changing, but I had two other ponderings - how much of the changes would be the fletchings getting wet and more beat up changing the aerodynamic efficiencies - the ones that failed looked rather shabby and if the tail doesn't want resist the tipping forces applied on hitting the water enough it will dive straight in, - how much is just the change in mass - While the COM will shift a little forward, the whole arrow will also get heavier along its whole length, which means its going to need more bounce to lift it regardless of the the centre of mass. The shallower shot works well I believe because it improves the force vector at impact reducing the amount of downward force and the angle of attack of the leading bulge is at a better angle into the water, which is also why the one that never worked never worked - you need to create a lifting force out of the tip and that one was way to hydrodynamic, so its always going to plough straight in not act like a hydrofoil.

*Alexander's Archives.* They were sitting ducks , no true Briton could resist them.

Hi Atomic Shrimp. How is it going?

This is my first time seeing you out in the wilds of RU-vid. Anyway, howdy!

Thanks for that and some great ideas to test next winter as my flood has nearly gone. But to be honest the way I look at this is many, many generations of many, many hunters shot thousands of shots and tried so many iterations that me messing for a couple of hours is not likely to improve things. A phd student though.....

@@tods_workshop Yeah, it's easy to forget that the only thing 'primitive' about the people who developed all this technology was really just the range of materials to work with. The hands, the brains, the senses of curiosity and innovation were the same as our own (maybe sometimes better in the face of material challenges and necessity)

@@tods_workshop I would like to throw in my few cents and point out that the rubber ducks you used were really small. Members of anseriformes family which include most targeted birds in northern Eurasia are significantly larger. The average height your arrows bounced would have not necessarily affected the shot.

Plus when you hit a deer you need to get in deep to actually kill it. Small game many times dies from a heart attack even if you didn't gravely wounded it (and it's much easier to do so anyway). So you can sacrifice the overall pressure of the arrowhead in order to save them.

@@HomoErectusIsAFunnyName all of that, plus ducks generally live closer to home. Deer need big expanses of forest, so there is always going to be an element of travel for most people, while the majority of people historically lived right next to a source of fresh water.

The blunt bouncing head alone is probably enough to kill anything smaller than a swan. The pronged weed catcher tip is just a stabby bonus.

@@SonsOfLorgar And after all, an injured bird- even from a hunting bow- is going to be dead when you get to it. Hollow bones and all that.

Keep guessing..

A Pleasure

Ducks of today are probably far more skittish and reactive than back then. The time of mass duck hunting had forced them to adapt

@@andrewgodly5739 people did not have freezers or fridges so they only shot one duck a day and it would be every day for the old day ducks. Modern ducks are mostly only scared during flight in hunting season.

Exactly what I thought too!

@@andrewsock6203 people were hunting ducks to sell on the market. Look at the punt gun. It was made for killing more than one duck

Thats what the original boomerang was for (not the ones that come back, but ones that fly flat and straight). The birds would hear it, and take off, straight into its path.

hydrophobic = "fearing" or repelling water. hydrophilic = liking and attracting water.

Makes sense they did have wax and Honey.

Don't blow it. Keep it simple. Wax your arrows.

Glad you like them!

@@tods_workshop I plan to make some for myself!

@@tods_workshop would skipping stones be a feasible hunting method for ducks?

and the "bouncing over" problem also isn't a thing since real birds are a bit bigger than these rubber duckies

@@tommihommi1 also, they'll probably try to get away and get hit while taking off

I used to shoot a sling shot at swimming ducks when I was a kid and ( hard to believe) but if you aimed at the ducks head you could never hit one. The ducks would sit still and just move their head out of the way of the passing stone. The ducks were so fast at reacting you just could not hit one from over 15yards unless you shot for the ducks ass end and you might hit one. Like you said it would guarantee a hit but really it just greatly increases your chances. Maybe it was just because the ducks I shot at were from the golf course and were battle hardened :)

Sauteed with rosemary

@@tods_workshop - Might do the trick, but I rather doubt it.....

If you want the other bouncing/water-skipping duck hunting arrow videos, here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Owy6sAPusoc.html - Siberian/Uralic version ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-3EtQnJvelw0.html - Native American version

Zemplin Castellan I appreciate your help. Thanks ^^

Yep ... they would be called fictional... for sure ...

Cresent arrow heads where used to cut wings and tendons, and blunt arrow heads has been used to hunt birds and small game so there is realy no need for these bouncing arrows. Remember when the english tried that bouncing dam busting bomb??

You should see the "Bills" that quack charges!

@@LiqnLag this could get really quackers. How about shooting oranges off them. Then you could have “duck al a ronge” or range. Ha ha.

@@robertgross1655 Proper fowl puns mate!

Fowl lives matter

@@LiqnLag I suppose fowl jokes are allowed.

I will now always picture that man in his lab making videos on old camera equipment when I think of the Tallboy and bouncing bombs

I'm just waiting for an April 1st video where everyone swaps introductions. "Hi, it's Joerg from the Slingshot Channel and Joerg Sprave here." "Greetings, I am Tod." "Hello and welcome to the Shadiversity channel."

@@HikuroMishiro Don't give them any ideas.

@@HikuroMishiro I think you mean "Hello and welcome to the machicolation channel."

If it's ice, any arrow would likely skip along.

Same here ! :-) And good point on the wooden flights, similar to those of a bolt.

a great suggestion, a layman here though so not sure how it would work out.. Though in all due honesty i think it would work well with a crossbow .. you would only get one shot realistically so i wonder how these would work with one

@@primachpepe8597 Oh you are right, how could I forget that the flights have to get around the bow... So crossbow it is then I guess

@@Sallafar but would the enlarged and heavier heads work with a crossbow? i would presume so, as a hunting bow/crossbow is lighter than a war bow... And it would be used in hunting fowl or small game as hunting large game would be (probably) illegal during the timeframes as depicted?

Not bad

Or Marseille soap

Thats why the scottish minister invented the primer ignition system for his black powder shotgun... The flash of the flintlock gave the birds time to dodge hence the name...Ducks...obvious, innit?

Or as here day"What had Tod come up with now and can I get a paper out of it?" 😁😁

That is one movie "Adagio for Strings" is not in. Though John Williams is often inspired by other composers. So I wouldnt say there is nothing that sounds like it in that movie. "Adagio for Strings" is in a lot of movies and some tv-shows. Some of them set in WW2.

@@WakarimasenKa yeah good track for war movies - the instant thought upon hearing the tune was platoon. But the black n white and yellow ducks made me think of the red dress girl, which was much more poignant!

@@75keg75 it is in platoon

@@wierdalien1 I know.. hence why I thought of platoon.

@@75keg75 Oh, of course. I see that now. I must me more atuned to the auditory than the visual. Or it has just been much longer since I saw Schindler's List, than it has been since I heard the music :P

Bouncing Arrows 2: Toxophilist Boogaloo

Tod just spoiled there will be a second video I guess

Sorry - that was just the second edit. Nothing to follow planned as yet

? woke person here. What are you taking about? We aren't out to get you or something. Thats something conservatives are imagining.

Please don't stir the pot, there is enough head banging in the world

@@tods_workshop Absolutely, I just want some comfy medieval crafting videos in these shitty times. Although I still don't understand what the OP meant.

@@666DarkTommy seems you're not nearly woke enough