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BR in the 1980s London St Pancras Station in November 1986 

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London St Pancras Station in November 1986
Upon a day visit to the capital I dropped in to some of the terminal stations. This clip is of London St Pancras Station
The main type of traction seen on this day was of course the HST domineering the London to Derby, Nottingham and Sheffield services. The empty stock was still using class 45 locomotives, (to me the main attraction) and still some mainline services too. EMU class 317 were used on the more local suburban route out of St Pancras to Luton, Bedford, where at the time was as far as the overhead wiring went.
This video is of many that will be posted "Uncut" and raw footage from my old archive as to speed up the upload times, cutting out all the fancy editing and chopping of material which can be very time consuming. Hopefully the longer pauses will not upset the viewing pleasure (if any)! Seriously there is so much to upload it could take years so by doing without the descriptions and post processes it could be a lot quicker. Please comment on the feature/features and I really do hope to arouse those old memories, good or bad, but mainly good I trust.

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@dieseldave3879
@dieseldave3879 2 месяца назад
11:40 Lights his cigarette and off we go - a man of his time, driving a classic loco! 🚂👍
@spompey
@spompey 2 месяца назад
Good old boy.....Best wishes Dave and many thanks...Mark
@djtrainspotter3079
@djtrainspotter3079 Год назад
Peaks at St.Pancras were the absolute pinnacle of the day at that time for me spotting around London until i started on the depots! Cheers for uploading these splendid memories.
@spompey
@spompey Год назад
Yes I too remember when the station was filled with "Peaks" at the head of long rakes of stock heading for the North....Best wishes....Mark
@alanrobertson9790
@alanrobertson9790 Год назад
Only spotted two complete sets. The 22 Deltics and the 193 Peaks. Living at Chesterfield helped. I know HSTs now have a cult following but I preferred the Peaks.
@Crepello100
@Crepello100 Год назад
Personally I love these unedited videos. There's lots of detail that would otherwise be missed - it's like I'm actually there!
@BibtheBoulder
@BibtheBoulder Год назад
You ain't kidding. Just listening to that Peak was fantastic.
@KellinoRail
@KellinoRail Месяц назад
Totally agree
@BibtheBoulder
@BibtheBoulder Год назад
Can't remember a better three minutes on a YT video than listening to that Peak ticking over, waiting time.
@spompey
@spompey Год назад
Many thanks for your kind comment.....best regards...Mark
@harryhack6870
@harryhack6870 Год назад
Good pair of headphones and max volume!
@brianwillson9567
@brianwillson9567 Год назад
Absolutely. Dung dung dung dung, GER dung dung dung dung GER dung dung dung , open regulator, dakkkada dakkada dakkada dakkada. The big sulzers always sounded impressive on those 45s.
@gazbrucia1654
@gazbrucia1654 Год назад
Great footage. I forgot how rundown St Pancras was at the time!!
@spompey
@spompey Год назад
It seemed so cavernous....best wishes...Mark
@vicsams4431
@vicsams4431 9 месяцев назад
St Pancras must surely get the people's vote for the grandest station in London. I loved the unrebuilt station with its Class 45s. During their last evening runs, in 1988, I and a group of lads, used to travel out of St Pancras every Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday nights for months bashing (Monday and Friday only had one diagram). If two 'required' Peaks were working, you caught the first one to Wellingborough and the second one to Kettering. Then made your way back home, which for me, was across London. If only one was working, you turned back at Wellingborough. In the 1980s, St Pancras had a leaky roof, and her red bricks often could be seen with water damage. It is a shame, when they rebuilt the station they bolted on those ugly turds, rather than extend the magnificent roof. The Victorians cared not about cost, but modern accountants do. But at least, this station, once ear-marked for closure, found a new lease of life with Eurostar, Kent High Speed, Thameslink, and Midland Mainline. So future generations can marvel at it.
@spompey
@spompey 9 месяцев назад
Never a truer word spoken Vic....it is an iconic Victorian piece of art and at least on the exterior maintains the Gothic feel and look...just like a lot of people wish it was filled with the old classes of locomotives.....many thanks and best regards....Mark
@Crepello100
@Crepello100 Год назад
On the rebuild issue, I think it's a great. I read somewhere they repainted the old shed in it's original colours? The only sad thing is it coincided with the loss loco haulage, parcels trains and associated shunting, and the new version took away the capacity to reinstate those. Still, it's far better than losing St.Pancras (and Marylebone) altogether which due to Thatcher and 'accountant mentality' could have happened.
@brianwillson9567
@brianwillson9567 Год назад
Crepello 100. Shouldn’t you be over the road at KX? Lovely that you should appreciate mr Barlow’s great work though. For my two pennorth, I love the fact that the hotel was been so comprehensively restored, I love the restoration , cleaning and repainting of the trainshed roof. I grossly dislike the cutting open of part of the platform deck to the horrible retail undercroft. I regard the destruction of the station approach, removal of gas holders, and cluttering the way with the ‘new works’ as cultural vandalism.
@davidparry1968
@davidparry1968 9 месяцев назад
What adds to this amazing video is the colours of the sky adding my to the atmosphere. I loved riding the Peaks when they were diagrammed to haul the Trans-Pennines services.
@spompey
@spompey 9 месяцев назад
Much appreciated David....Many thanks for the comment and for your interest....Best wishes...Mark
@timstrainvideos142
@timstrainvideos142 Год назад
excellent footage! interesting (for me anyway) to see the blue grey 317s on the line before the 319s arrived.
@spompey
@spompey Год назад
As long as whatever your interest is I am just appreciative for your interest in the video...Many thanks....best wishes...Mark
@grahamdavidcowley
@grahamdavidcowley Год назад
Compare these scenes with the same location today. Gas holders are now flats, trains go to Belgium/France, and yet the wires don't go much further than Bedford even today! Progress everywhere except on the Midland mainline! Loved the videos. Excellent camera work!
@spompey
@spompey Год назад
many thanks for your kind comment Graham...much appreciated and very true about St.Pancras....Mark
@thedreamtommylees
@thedreamtommylees Год назад
Wires go to Corby and are well in progress to advancing to Market Harbrough. Leicester will soon be electrified then up to Sheffield
@Andrew-xs1sg
@Andrew-xs1sg 8 месяцев назад
@@thedreamtommyleesDream on they have stalled north of Market Harborough
@pauldavis9567
@pauldavis9567 5 месяцев назад
Yeah , another great line ruined @@thedreamtommylees
@boyfromblackstuff7859
@boyfromblackstuff7859 3 месяца назад
Good days, very interesting. Thanks for posting.
@spompey
@spompey 3 месяца назад
You are most welcome and many thanks....Mark
@ianjones4116
@ianjones4116 Год назад
Brilliant, loved the Peaks . 👍👍
@spompey
@spompey 11 месяцев назад
You're most welcome....Many thanks for your comment and for watching...best wishes...Mark
@robertmarshall6578
@robertmarshall6578 11 месяцев назад
The driver of 45133 seems to be having a somewhat heated exchange with another member of staff at 8:50, eventually slamming the cab door with a seemingly bad-tempered flourish. Love to know what all that was about. I'm sure he got over it very quickly and calmed down to give his passengers the smooth ride they expected! However it does serve as a reminder that the inner workings of the railway are largely open to public view and scrutiny (unlike water companies or the BBC!)
@spompey
@spompey 11 месяцев назад
It may well have been a guard.....who will ever know.....but Many thanks for your comment and for watching...best wishes...Mark
@geert-janzwartjes31
@geert-janzwartjes31 Год назад
Love the peaks big locomotives
@spompey
@spompey Год назад
I remember in 1976 catching a "Merrymaker" out of St Pancras which took us to Llandudno via (Leicester) Nuneaton....45 all the way there and back....aaaahh what nostalgia...many thanks for watching....Mark
@brianwillson9567
@brianwillson9567 Год назад
Hated the peaks for ousting the jubilees. Came to love the peaks. That 12 cylinder sulzer throb echoing round the trainshed, wonderful.
@spompey
@spompey 11 месяцев назад
@@brianwillson9567Many thanks brian......Mark
@spompey
@spompey 11 месяцев назад
Also loved your rendition pf loco sounds....Fabulous.....mark
@Oddly1970
@Oddly1970 Год назад
The home of the peaks 😊
@spompey
@spompey 11 месяцев назад
Many thanks for your comment and for watching...best wishes...Mark
@paulchappell9606
@paulchappell9606 21 день назад
You people take the mick out of train spotters, as for me who works at the beautiful st pancras will never say such a thing, look at this video from then to videos now. Very interesting and thanks.
@spompey
@spompey 20 дней назад
You're Very welcome Paul......Many thanks and best wishes.......Mark
@sundayakpan2663
@sundayakpan2663 Год назад
Great old footage of the video
@spompey
@spompey Год назад
You are most welcome and Many thanks for watching and for your comment best regards....Mark
@brianwillson9567
@brianwillson9567 Год назад
St Pancras, the most wonderful building in London. Bad news, the euroterminal works detrimental, good news, even the reworked st Pancras a million times better than the possible alternative, demolition by 1970. Ideal St P . The train shed full of jubilees. Just about acceptable alternative, the train shed full of Peaks. OK, still fine alternative, the train shed full of HSTs. Train shed full of Euro electrics......neh, I’ll stick with memories of St P as it was.
@spompey
@spompey 11 месяцев назад
You're most welcome Brian...Many thanks for your comment and for watching...best wishes...Mark
@111672balernabz2010
@111672balernabz2010 Год назад
I'm trying to catch up on the last 3 videos to much to choose from of classic traction,especially St Pancras..
@spompey
@spompey Год назад
So glad I am at last fulfilling viewers interest....very much appreciated...Mark
@Froobyone
@Froobyone Год назад
Crikey the HID wasn't messing about on that Peaky Blinder coming in light (hah) engine.
@spompey
@spompey Год назад
Many thanks for the comment and best wishes....Mark
@aljonflavin6760
@aljonflavin6760 11 месяцев назад
It looked then a run down Nobody cares br station in the 80s, what a difference now.
@spompey
@spompey 11 месяцев назад
Many thanks for your comment and for watching...best wishes...Mark
@frenchsteam7356
@frenchsteam7356 Год назад
I noticed the first HST arrival was the "wrong way round" -any reason why? Give me a 45 any day, better than a 46 or a 47 [used to make me feel seasick!]
@D.C.009.
@D.C.009. Год назад
Had a cab ride in 45106 in green livery, on one of its last runs out of there, got out at Kettering, used to get away with that in the 80s !
@thedreamtommylees
@thedreamtommylees Год назад
Do you mean first being at the rear? I guess it could have been diverted and come in reverse formation, ie ran Derby, Nottingham then St Pancras, or round the back at Sheffield. The first train to Sheffield runs from Leicester with first at front, the runs back road via Darnall into platform 8 at Sheffield, making first now front of the train to St Pancras. The old way was indeed to have front closer to the entrance/exit but some operators do not do this on every set
@frenchsteam7356
@frenchsteam7356 Год назад
@@thedreamtommylees I was at the "new"Heaton Depot from 77 to 91, The East Coast HSTs always ran with the first class at the London end and in those days we could use the bridges at Newcastle to turn a set if it happened to be the "wrong" way round. Would you believe when the HSTs were first introduced the vehicles had to be marshalled in NUMERICAL order.
@malcolmlowe2323
@malcolmlowe2323 9 месяцев назад
Was the 10mph over the bridge just for fun. 😮😮😮
@spompey
@spompey 9 месяцев назад
Maybe the speedo was clapped out or out of view....best wishes Malcolm as always....Mark
@th8257
@th8257 9 месяцев назад
Did you ever feel unsafe around there? Kings Cross and St Pancras could be pretty dodgy back then.
@spompey
@spompey 9 месяцев назад
Not really, apart from at night maybe, but I found Euston more wary.....best wishes to you...Mark
@duncancurtis5108
@duncancurtis5108 Год назад
July 88 was the final month for Peak working, usually as far as Derby only.
@spompey
@spompey Год назад
Many thanks Duncan.....Mark
@VICTOR-pf9eg
@VICTOR-pf9eg 22 дня назад
Never understood why this train had a nose on it I don't know if the driver could see what was in front of him like the train's you have now you have full vision anyway what was it in the nose piece anyway I am not a Train Spotter I hope somebody's not thinking this is a stupid question if so I am sorry 45133 train number
@spompey
@spompey 22 дня назад
Not a silly question...In the nose some air equipment and also equipment for the Vacuum system was situated. The headcode panel was in there too and isolating cocks for the air systems . It was actually quite cramped in the nose and draughty also very grubby....I dare say other viewers will know much more.....Many thanks and sincere wishes...Mark
@VICTOR-pf9eg
@VICTOR-pf9eg 22 дня назад
​Thank you for subscribing to me but I don't produce any videos whosoever I just love your videos because I remember the old train stations I am originally from Birmingham West Midlands living London@@spompey
@spompey
@spompey 22 дня назад
@@VICTOR-pf9eg That is fine....Many thanks to you and best wishes...Mark
@paulhwbooth
@paulhwbooth Год назад
I HATE what has been done to this Grade One listed buidling.
@spompey
@spompey Год назад
Yes I too agree I thought listed buildings could not be altered that much....Many thanks....Mark
@ds1868
@ds1868 Год назад
Well it was either the present restored building or demolition. Just be happy it exists at all.
@robtyman4281
@robtyman4281 Год назад
Looking at this video you forget what a dump the station was in the 80's - absolutely terrible. No wonder few people travelled by train back then. The station looks a mess tbh - unloved, no attempt to tidy things up or make things abit brighter looking. No imagination at all. But the government of the day weren't interested in making things better at St Pancras. They weren't interested in railways full stop. I don't understand those who say the restoration of the station destroyed its character. Go to the station today, and tell me it's worse than it was back in 1986. Look at the entrance, the concourse, how much cleaner the platforms are, how much lighter everything looks. Go and see the hotel - restored to how it was. It was built to be a hotel, not a junk building for old BR equipment. I'm sorry but I cannot agree with anything Paul Booth says about the station being ruined now. Try taking off those rose-tinted glasses. Railways in the 80's (and 70's for that matter) were as grim as anything. Especially suburban trains, and stations.
@AndreiTupolev
@AndreiTupolev Год назад
Really? I think they've done an awesome job with the Eurostar terminal and finally given it services prestigious enough to be worthy of it. It was rather rundown and far, far bigger than what it was needed for back in BR days. Yes, the Midland mainline services have rather been shoved off into an annex, but still
@paulhwbooth
@paulhwbooth Год назад
@@robtyman4281 Opinions differ. St Pancras was a Grade One listed building, and it needed, and should have got, care, maintenance and some restoration. For an example of what you can do to update a magnificent railway station without destroying its character, see the Hauptbahnhoff in Leipzig.
@ukmusichero
@ukmusichero Год назад
Great footage, although highlights the disgusting state of British Rail at the time 🤔
@spompey
@spompey Год назад
It does look a little clinical nowadays, but I suppose that is modernisation...Many thanks for watching and best regards....Mark
@user-zw5ye3mg4m
@user-zw5ye3mg4m 4 месяца назад
论辱华车站的昨天
@spompey
@spompey 4 месяца назад
Many thanks....Mark
@user-zw5ye3mg4m
@user-zw5ye3mg4m 4 месяца назад
stop touching her!😂辱华车站😂
@spompey
@spompey 4 месяца назад
Many thanks....mark
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