the work of great composers like Brahms, more than any other human venture, have come closest in human knowledge to revealing whether there is anything beyond the realm of material existence
I was blessed to see the Concertgebouw Orchestra with Maestro Chailly on tour in Hartford, Conn. some years back. They performed the Brahms Double Concerto, and the First Symphony. Such a fantastic orchestra, playing such great music. I love Brahms more than I do any other composer. To hear his music played by a world-class ensemble is pure bliss.
Anyone who thinks Brahms is a classical romanticist needs to listen to this intensely tragic romantic music--there is no way one could mistake B. for the other B--Beethoven. The level of emotional expression gives Tchaikovsky a run for his money--the difference here being that the 'tragedy' is not completely unleashed nor is it personal--so it is , yes, 'classically' held in check--but the 'romance/tragedy' is there for sure.
No doubt about that though there are a few others than come very close. Today countless millions are spent on so-called "starchitect" (yuk) designed concert halls but they invariably fail to measure up to the incomparable Concertgebouw, Amsterdam
Fantastic to hear this great overture played by the world's finest orchestra and in sound that captures that unique acoustic of the wonderful concertgebouw Thanks for this upload.
ESTA OBRA DE BRAHMS É UM MAGNÍFICO EXEMPLO DE MAESTRIA E INSPIRAÇÃO ROMÂNTICA. CONTRAPONTO SÁBIO, HARMONIA MAGISTRAL, DESENVOLVIMENTO ESTUPENDO E ORQUESTRAÇÃO CHEIA DE EXPRESSIVIDADE ABSOLUTA. SIMPLESMENTE É UMA OBRA MONUMENTAL.
Brahms is Brahms ..no other ...he is not romantic neither classic...he writes music the way he knows...nothing fancy it is absolute music...which commenced with Bach ...then Beethoven and then Brahms. The motives of his themes are exploited to innumerable ways. He never leaves you with nothing to here. His counterpoint is unique. A master of his music. I love Brahms.
Exactly. He has both feeling AND intellect. Tchaikovsky is his equal but he only appeals to my heart. However, Bach (Mass in b minor) and Beethoven (Eroica) cannot be trumped in my view.
Nadie que se precie de sentir la grandeza de la música culta, podria haber soñado con este medio para su goce, tanto en su calidad de imagen, como el sonido, asi como los conciertos selecccionados
I usually admire Daniele Gatti but this performance finds him way off form. "The Tragic" is one of my favourite overtures but this is absolutely lifeless and dull despite having one of the world's best orchestras. Karajan made a recording in the early 70's for EMI which absolutely blows this into the weeds, the best by far I've ever heard.
I agree entirely - that EMI record is his best of the several he made. As for this performance, well, I just think it shows how standards gave plummeted.
Do you know what year exactly? I found one for 1970 wasn't sure if that was it or not. Most of the time this piece sounds like its being played too fast
I didn't realize that the dynamic marking for the entire overture was "mezzo-forte". I found this to be an uninspiring performance of one of Brahms's most inspired works. Tragic.
It first came on for me when I was going to kill Sinjin as the shroud. Every time it comes on it reminds me of an assassin in WWII climbing the stairs trying to kill an SS Officer with a Luger.
+Collin Bracey Wasn't even a good rasping hack. More of a nervous, little, attention-seeking chirp. At least at 8:02 it sounds like the old beggar just expired.
That describes pretty much every Concertgebouw performance - fantastic musicianship, beautiful sound, rightfully considered one of (if not the) best orchestras in the world, but horrendously dull. No soul or vitality, it's not music as much as the sound of music if it were perfected having all human imperfection removed from it... boring boring boring.
The tempo instructions are Allegro non troppo. Further at the reprise they are"pesante" and Molto piu Moderato. Gatti does it perfectly. I think he is a great young conductor! To those who it is boring, I think they expect Brahms to be Beethoven.He is not...More than that Brahms is not Schubert. For me it's an excellent performance for a great overture, better than Bernstein and Klemperer!
This is when a fabulous orchestra plays an excellent overture very boring. In my taste this performance does not any excitement or frenzy. Under Daniele Gatti’s baton music run aground. This is not just tempo. If you compare it with Leonard Bernstein which chose nearly the same tempo but the result is unbelievably excellent. I extremely recommend Bernstein or Otto Klemperer.
+Chejaaleb I do agree for 100 %. It is reaaly a horror. Try for ideal performance also Walter, 1960; CSO. Here in youtube. Fire, clarity ,colour and shine. How FGS could the KCO choose Gatti their chief conductor, after this collapse with Brahms ?
Che, you are most welcome. I love to find co-enjoyers of forgotten or not too wellknown renditions. The difference between this KCO performance, under their new chief to come, and Walter is unfathomable. If one doesn't know this masterpiece yet, one could think of the Gatti perf.: this is impressionism by a French composer. We love Bruno Walter !
+Chejaaleb When the piece is a work of genius and the orchestra is as accomplished as the Royal Concertgebouw, there's only one person to blame for a performance as listless as this.
اورتور تراژیک اثر یوهانس برامس بدون شک یکی از آثار جاویدان و ماندگار این آهنگساز نابغه است. متاسفانه اجرای حاضر علیرغم بهرهوری از یکی از بهترین ارکسترهای جهان، اجرایی کمروح و تا اندازهای خسته کننده است. توصیه میکنم اجرای لئونارد برنستاین، اتو کلمپرر و یا برونو والتر را هم نگاه (گوش) کنید. اگر هم دوست دارید اجرایی بسیار عالی را ببینید، اجرای سر کالین دیویس بدون شک همان اجراست
It's such a shame when an orchestra as fantastic as this is led by a conductor who has no idea what he's doing. No idea how to balance the orchestra, no grasp of voice leading or form... Basically no understanding of Brahms's music at all. I could barely get past the first minute.
This is a very unfair, unjustified and hostile commentary. There is nothing wrong with this performance of this work, neither musically nor techically. It may not be to your taste for some reason. Say it so. But it is absolutely inapropriate to use such insulting language for anybody to exress his/her subjective /personal/baseless opinion.
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