Brain: Searching for the first PC virus in Pakistan 

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Pakistan: creates virus India: hello your computer has virus

proud to be a member of brain's family....

The most heartwarming tale about a benign computer virus. I feel weird for saying that and being happy that BRAIN went home.

wow - at least there is something that we have invented !

Thanks for Darknet Diaries for sending me here, awesome to see this piece of history.

I appreciate the man who searched and reached the roots of brain to appreciate inventors and for his curiosity

Who came here after darknet dairies ?

Such an emotional moment when the interviewer handed over the "brained" floppy to the creators. I can understand the emotions of seeing something they made, after decades. It's like getting a lost child back.

I am currently sitting with a member of Brain's network Mr Raza Ahmad aka Raziiii... What a proud moment for Pakistan and specially Allama Iqbal Town's vicinity! Big cheer to us Pakistanis!

I just love it how they gaze at the floopy, blushing and with pride. Such a great history check for all of us IT nuts.

Great work, I am from Pakistan, It was in my knowledge that the first virus was invented in Pakistan, but actually I dont know about author, this is first time have come to know about the author of "brain", this is because of you, And you travelled to Pakistan to meet Alvi brothers, this is really amazing,.

Pakistan Zindabad ❤️

Pakistanis are great subject to given Opportunities

I can't believe a video like this would have under a million views after all these years and yet YT has never recommended it to me, not even once. Its McAfee's "suicide" that brought me here...

Im a programmer too so these two men are great personalities for me!!!

Well-done...from India..

I'm genuinely happy that the authors are now successful businessmen, so Mikko could eventually interview them. Brain wasn't developed to do harm.

Extraordinary indeed. Kudos to this video's host and F-secure for presenting this objectively. .

the two brothers are seem like pretty nice people for the 2 who wrote the first ever PC virus

Who is here from Darknet Diaries?!

Annoying background music

With my first PC CPU 8088, I noticed with one of my diskettes 5 1/4 in the label with use Dir/w on MsDos, the label say "Brain (c)", I don't remember the tool, I have been exploring the boot disk sector 0, and see the code in ASCII and Hexadecimal, thus the next step was copy and applied reverse engineering with Debug program from MsDos. :) and see the code in assembly language, now where, I got it, I don't remember somebody give me it free (with a game or program) how know :)

8:14 "I brought the virus home" , brought tears to my eyes

Great video, saw this form DarkNet Diaries.

You should have asked "what software did you use in creating this virus in 1986" ... would have yielded an interesting response.

wow this is cool. Such Pioneers

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@rash9876 I think we Pakistanis r not proud from the fact that PC virus was invented in Pakistan but to the fact that we had and have smart brains in our country. Every country has things to be proud of. We also respect the fact that India is doing wonders in IT industry. Gentlemen in video did explained that they did not have bad intentions thats y they left their contact details on it. Peace man and go do ur home work.

you can't tell how happy i am to rn to know this , that smile on thier faces though :) #CSstudent #ProudPakistani

awesome... I think FSecure forgot to thank them for making that virus :D

OMG this was so amazing. I got goosebumps. I live in the same city Lahore in Pakistan. :)

It can be really cool to see software you wrote a long time ago. I found a website that had all this old software saved, and I found a program I wrote in the early 90s in Jr high. Was a pain to get it running, but I finally did

Pakistanis were way ahead of the world even in Viruses. Such a talented nation. Pure geniuses.

Heartiest congratulations to BRAIN/ALVI GROUP for advancement in Computer World. I feel proud of these my Pakistani brothers. I pray for the safety and security of this group as risks of threat etc. foreseen by the foreign interviewer. My emotions are uncontrollable I again congratulate them. Mohammad Ashiq Choudhry, Haroonabad, Punjab, Pakistan

Nice Video. I Live in the neighborhood of Brain, nice to see them in a video.

Well that's exactly the video I wanted to see. Thanks, Mikko.

Who came here from darknet diaries

Proud to be a Pakistani....

This is actually an extremely well done video. Great camera work!

Who came here from darknet diaries?

Thanks Mr. Mikko Hyppönen, for coming into our country and interviewed our renowned diamonds. Unfortunately, They never interviewed or speak (by video) before for this matter, Neither the Government of Pakistan has given them any award for this great work and Besides, Lots of people in our country even don't know that They made the First Computer Virus.

Wow, good to know that our neighbors has created it. This virus has virtually led to a start up of a company called McAfee. Good work.

damn i am feeling so proud as pakistan greatest inventions of all times

Their office is just walking distance from my home and I always thought that it is some ISP office but woooo they are genius right near my door .... I'm computer scientist and surely going to meet these people tomorrow or sooner ..

Awesome job on the video guys! Very well put together.

مک دونالد Relax!!! it just says Mcdonald's

I’m so surprised to see these guys they are super simple and straightforward no wickedness is seen from their faces and talking way. Hope they are like that. Wish them success and so it takes part to success of our country.

@mechavas well it kinda is, i m surprised that its not in the Guinness book of world records cause it deserves to be in it

Allama Iqbal Town This is where I Live Also ...........

Darknet diaries got me here.

That floppy disk at end looks soo suspicious.

Who came here after Mcafee's death news in 2021?

Awesome historical perspective..., Thank you for making it... JD

100% leet shit son. Arm your boxes, let's send out SOS packets.

I love this interview. Its great for people who are interested in technology, like me.

I just finished this part from Mikko latest book and it's great to look at the video he mention in the book regarding meeting the author

I also live in Allama Iqbal Town, Lahore, Pakistan ❤️🇵🇰😁😎✌️

Pakistan rocks!! american shocked

@MrBoogiePope Fourthly, you are truly ignorant. The present day Hindu numeral system (commonly called decimal number system) was developed by Indians & it revolutionized the field of maths. So was binary numbers, concept of infinity & zero. In medicine, first Cataract surgery was carried out by Indians. First plastic surgery was also carried out by Indians in 2000 BC. Jagadish Chandra Bose is regarded as the father of radio science. Search on internet: 'List of Indian inventions and discoveries'

This is brilliant. Right after I found out the first pc virus was made by a Pakistani, I started researching it. Crazy stuff, but proud of them :D

32nd University of PC viruses

@rash9876 Nobody denies that Indians have contributed (and historically, Pakistan was there too... ask Panini :o) but do you see Americans jumping left & right about... everything else ? I mean, White guys have made everything in this world literally ? Have you ever heard of them showing Tesla that, Einstein this, Mr X... ? And I'm not vulgar generally (for the matter: I'm a non Muslim Rajput proud of his Hindu heritage); but that was lame. When someone celebrate why to come with such comments ?

Legendary!

why such few views? I mean seriously.

8:14 take your child back

Dear Mikko Hypponen's, You did a great work by reaching them and bring their views to us, and we can able to see and feel such great inventor. I never seen their picture or video earlier. Great work by introducing such inventor to us

+1 for everybody that came here from darknet diaries podcast.

Somebody jumped on google to try to look like a smart guy. You shouldn't do things like this when you're talking to real professionals child.

Proud to be Pakistani and proud on Alvi Bros

Had to come here after hearing Mikko talk on darknet diaries - Such an awesome idea to come up with, its so interesting to meet the people behind Brain

pakistan❤❤❤

@ACogloc that's a typical Finnish guy. Most of people from Finland have the same style. :)

what a good documentary but HORRIBLE narrator!.

thay bhoot are genious now brain have brain tell brain net and lot off other proudects

Thank you Mikko for sharing this!

It's incredible, but it is not the same story that the Alvi brothers told to Time Magazine in 1988. They said they were dedicated to selling cheap copies of Lotus 1-2-3, and Wordstar for a few dollars to americans and foreigners who visit their headquarters in Pakistan, and inside the floppies they injected Brain. Why the special treatment for outsiders? The brothers' somewhat confused rationalization hinges on a loophole in Pakistani law. According to Basit, copyright protection in Pakistan does not extend to computer software. Therefore, he says, it is not illegal for local citizens to trade in bootleg disks; technically, they are not engaged in software piracy. Then why infect American buyers? "Because you are pirating," said Basit, "foreigners must be punished". 🤦‍♂🤦‍♂

During the video I was thinking: "Well, somebody would have created any type of computer virus, especially a malicious one, even if those two innocent men hadn't invented the so-called 'Brain'."

@1adnanbhatti please donot lose your temper, indian have contributed alot to IT and scientific research, we pakistani should also strive for the best instead of getting angry at every one. Small steps of resolve towards a goal can make all the difference in our life

They are my teacher's brothers really

Thank you for bringing it back home.

Proud To Be Pakistani

I am surprised even Alvi's expand their business but they never changed their house in the old streets and bazaars.

This is hacking. ;) Some people are evil today and care about money. Ransomware, etc. It's a shame.

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What was you reaction After the first call. ? Our Virus just went Viral

Damn....really....brain...was written by Pakistanis...amazing

This is incredibly, beautifully shot and edited. Incredible work.

You have a point. I would like to see someone interview some of the members of the group, which is no longer together today:29A

Very Nice information Sir. Thanks a lot

great..video..

No threats at all, because they got contract from Pak Army

I want brain because i have floppy and a computer to insert it

Interesting. Videography was amazing!!!

Nice one Mikko, thanks for sharing.

Hi there, My name is Furquan Hassan. I am 16 years old and I am the worlds youngest certified in Information System Security Officer. I want to say that pakistan was and is the most advance nation in Information Security and other related technologies. But we don't see any platform to show our self except moving to an other country, my cousin gave a solution to DPA attacks in devices,he is now in US earning 400,000 a month. in-short one day the things will change and pakistan will be a leader.

Wow this place very near to my home.

Waaaw

I m watching this video after 35 year ago