Brake Pad Showdown | EBC vs Hawk Brake Pads 

It should be Hawk HP Plus vs Yellow stuff and Hawk HPS5.0 vs Red Stuff. The HP Plus is slightly on the track pad spectrum, same as yellow stuff.

Just upgraded to some Redstuff on my Alfa Romeo Giulietta QV (~260hp). Not done with the bedding process yet thou (did it today), but so far they feel/bite nice compared to the OEM Brembos. I'm a "Spirited" driver" and like curvy country roads and meeting fast cars at the traffic light, i´m not doing tracks. The OEM Brembos did stop me 1 foot / 30 cm before being involved in a multi-car high way accident (no serious person damage) and I assume the Mercedes stopping 1 foot / 30 cm behind me had Brembos too. So absolutely not complaining about the OEM Brembo pads, I owe those brakes a lot. Me and my car left without a scratch, but with a car covered in oil, battery acid and cooling fluid, I guess it was ....a pain getting of the windscreen. Tire´s and brakes has always been my top priority, now more than ever. If you like driving (too) fast, you better make sure you can stop again :D PS: I live in Denmark, so highway speed here is 80 mph / 130kmt. This happened when it was dark and wet, so was only driving around 65mph i think.

Being that I'm not gonna take my daily driver to the track, nor am I a race car driver, the red stuff is perfect alone for the mere fact that brake dust is not even a thing with those, and with the addition that they stop damn good as well.

EBC red stuff pads produce almost no brake dust, thats why I use them. If you saw any "dust" in this test, that was just the break-in coating coming off.

Would've been better if the pads were more similar but I do appreciate the differentiation between the three. I've used EBC Yellowstuff in the past and they worked well for me with no noise and some increased dusting which I found to be an acceptable tradeoff for increased brake performance.

Nothing says performance like a dual piston caliper station wagon. Sorry, I just couldn't resist. Great quality vid!!

Thought redstuff wasnt made for the trackdays, better to use blue or yellow stuff in my opinion ✊

I'm curious if they performed the brake in/bedding for each one of these pads and if so would bedding various brake pads on the same rotor within a short period of time affect these results in any way.

Solid content. Was on the fence about buying high performance pads . You convinced me . The differences were massive . Thanks and good work!

I believe the EBC yellow stuff pads are more of a comparison to the Hawk HP Plus. Great testing tho. I prefer EBC of these 2 brands, but I prefer Carbotech above all other Brands.

I've been using Hawk HP Plus pads for years I have virtually zero break noise. Follow their instructions for the bed-in

Very nice test, i think it would of been nice to use different color tape for each brake pad and then show an overview photo to see the scatter pattern :). Also, i know EBC has a special bedding coating on the pads before they are 100% efficient, then needed to be used at least 200 km / 125 miles, unsure about the Hawk as i never used them :)

After using LOTS of different mfg pads I've settled on EBC. Why? because of the consistency between different models of pads. They are always top-notch, as are their rotors.

EBC Green stuff pads and Hawk performance rotors the best combo

Had a set of hawks on my old heavy yukon. They didn't seem to have much stopping power but they still had a ton of life left , then tried some brembos , those had some serious stopping power but didn't last very long , just got a set of the ebc yellows with the rotors. TBA!

So EBC themselves do not say that the red stuff pads are track pads. In fact they explicitly say in their explanation video that they aren't. They are meant to be street pads that are an upgrade over OEM. That being said, I guess you can technically take anything to the track. Also, you didn't say whether you went through the proper bedding process for either. If you didn't ebc pads come with an abrasive outer coating to help the bedding procedure. They don't need thermal cycling really, but they do recommend about 500 miles of normal driving without super hard stops. Obviously if you've gotta you gotta but the bed process is super important here. If you didn't bed the pads the way the manufacturer recommends then it's not really an accurate test. This is my issue with reviews and test videos like this that don't run the pads for long periods to really get them seated completely. Still a good video though.

I literally looked for a video like this yesterday.... thanks yall

Do this again...but with a blind test...meaning Kevin not knowing which brake pad goes on....

I really wish you would have put the HP+ against the Yellow stuff the red stuff is closer to thr 5.0

Was just thinking about ordering some pads .😎 Gotta love your guy’s timing.

I like my Redstuff pads a lot. They wear a lil fast with my cheap slotted rotors though.

Red stuff are not a track pads, in fact you can ruin them on the track by over heating them. They are though, very good street pads. Yellow stuff pads on the other hand thrive and improve with heat.

Good video with proper content , more of this , less youtubers showing 1 minute of what’s in title and then 15 of them fucking about with mates and going Mc Donald’s ! Top work x

EBC red stuff has been a good choice for me. Smoked them once during the break in period, but that happens sometimes

ive tried both brands for heavy towing... honestly, they'll give a different brake feel, but theyre all so close now in terms of quality

curious of the break-in compound that comes with new EBC's could impact the results here.

I realize how important it is for me to get my brakes upgraded when I get my car protuned. It will be good to get my car increased in power but I need the braking power to back it up.

MAN I'M RUNNING SOME EBC RED STUFF ON MY 2014 BMW 335I XDRIVE AND THEY SOUND LIKE A BIG TRUCK FROM DAY ONE, I PUT BRAKE QUIET AND STILL! WHEN I BREAK MY CAR SOUND LIKE A TRUCK! CRAZYYYY NOISE

The pads, esp. EBC, need a break in before u can tests them. The EBC has a break in coating.

Ive been using hawk ceramics yellow for the last 10 years they only squealed for the 1st month or so like 10 years ago.

IMO stick to Hawk HPS vs any EBC pads for daily driving and hard braking. They use an organic compound. Ceramics no matter what, in my experience, will make resonance or noise when braking. Bought into the EBC hype 17 years ago and had noise and poor braking. Bought Hawk HPS after and never looked back. Put them on 8 different cars and never had a noise or braking issue with any of them. Braking feel, bite and distance always improved over stock.

can we get any numbers, even rough numbers? Like what was the oem stopping distance, from what speed? What was the decrease in distance from after market pads? Every foot counts, right?

Miss the 2 minute tuesdays!! ☹️☹️

When tuning anything remember you have...performance, reliability cost.. But you can only ever have two. Sorry but that's the rules.

FIRST ONE HERE!! LOVE YOU GUYS KEEP THE CONTENT GOING !!!

GD that Forester is sick

Prior to this years performance package coming with the brembos, some of the previous years came with high performance Jurid pads in the front. Do you guys have any data on how those compare to other aftermarket pads?

What pad would be the quites for 71 chevelle with stick rotors I hate squeels

I want the best stopping power for the street, no track, no racing. And I dont care about noise or dust. And I want good cold bite, The Hawk Brake looks like it had really impressive even compared to the EBC red, but you said it was better for track? Does it require a warm up or something to get the results that beat EBC red?

What about the TRW

Surpaspeed???

EBC redstuff is not for the track. It's stated directly from EBC. A daily driver who occasionally goes to the track for a few laps should use yellow stuff. DO NOT use redstuff for track/autocross.

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red stuff are street pads , not for track use. This is not a great comparison

Wish you would test NRS pads

Jesus lol it's been several years since I did my own break job but I forgot how $$ hawk pads were. No wonder I opted to do it myself lmao

2nd one woo

Red stuff pads aren't for racing. Yellow and blue are for racing

I'm scratching my head wondering why you selected those hawk pads to compare? The DTC 60 can't be touched by any of the pads in your selection and the hawk pads you have on your review are adequate at best disappointing bro you ever get on a race track

WE WANT MORR FORESTER CONTENT

You never beded the pads.

I get the cheapest pads , it stops me from tailgating😅.

Choice of pads has nothing to do with power! Pad/disc type should be matched to the required retardation needed - nothing else. Environmental conditions and friction are the variables.

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The test car is a station wagon! 🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Good to know this will fit my 13 Legacy 3.6 ...oh wait you guys don't sell anything for us Leggy guys also not too bad stopping as most likely you guys had older pad transfer layers on the same rotors!

I was forced to buy something with no discount... :/

I’m gunna guess the American prefers and is biased towards the American pads

Your stock pads are probably better than those pads.

Filming while merging onto the highway... & staring straight into the camera... ***Edit, you're right, you checked several times. What a stud!***. Still, I watched until the end, and you added nothing new to an age-old discussion. Glad you're learning the basics though! Congrats! ***Side note, you need diamonds or something in your ear studs bro. That's pretty sad to see a piece of plastic in your ear! ROFL. Maybe carbon fiber? IDK, but that's just distracting as HELL!! Why? Because it's just a piece of plastic... Probably would be of benefit to at least take a few HPDE classes and be a better driver 1st. /wink.

Hawk winner, it is obvious

This video was very helpful as I'm in the market for Rotors and Brakes upgrade from the OEM Rotors & pads. I have a 2016 Legacy 3.6r Limited and the car has problems stopping. I have avoided many accidents in the past. So I bought new tires and now I'm looking for rotors & pads upgrade Recent new tires upgrade from Dealer installed GoodYear - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-nmoL30BZQDA.html

EBC brake pads are complete garbage. Worst case of making something expensive to make it appear high quality. EBC won’t even bite when cold, when it does but it’s weak sauce. It heats up your rotors and will warp it.

45 to 0, why not 60 to 0?

The information is backwards in this video. Delete it. Do some research.

Wow that soccer mom car is SUPER SIIIIICCCKKK DDUUUUUUDE

I just can't understand how tu fuck people still use EBC... definetly if you think EBC is good, you haven't tried many stuff... ALWAYS stick to pagid, pfc, ferodo, endless, brembo and reputable brands... pagid RSL pads probably triplicate the cost of ebc, but they last 4 times more with 10 times more performance and don't destroy discs...i would only use EBC pads for my daily drive car that does not require any performance driving at all.. worst shit i've ever used in my track car

Hawk hps better ebc

EBC redstuff is absolute garbage of apad. anyone who knows anything about braking systems wouldnt recommend EBC pads at all.. try flogging them on a track. they turn to shit real fast and start braking up. i know so. i tried them once never again!