BRAKE vs NO BRAKE Indoor Karting Experiment 

the brakes on indoor rental karts are usually awful though so its hard to use them properly

Isn't that in reference to trail breaking ?

@@khayrobs basically

Different grades of braking

So i've never done competitive IRL motorsports and last time I did any gokarting at all was at a birthday party or something like 15+ years ago, but I took up sim racing and rally games in 2020, and seeing this Andretti quote and shifting my mentality to that helped my lines SOOOOO much. I changed my thinking from a mentality of rather than simply "slowing down" with braking to using the brake to distribute the car's weight and convert forward momentum to angular momentum (especially on any type of loose surface). Even on the simulator getting a feel for how you're using the brakes to distribute the weight and convert momentum to your advantage is a big step to improving your lines, lap times, and tactics. DISCLAIMER: I am not good at sim racing by any means, i still fuck up and crash out on a regular basis, BUT i have made an improvement over the years (altho my current iRatings don't show that due to a recent period of just trying WAY Too hard when i needed a break LOLOLOL)

its not that simple, you can use fast in slow out to pass someone, once youre in front they cant use their fast out advantage

Nah, it's clearly better to use "fast in, wall"

Hey, I resemble that comment! @@AlexandreBugado

On every situation...

I just recently learned that in some karts only one wheel is connected to the engine, while the other is free spinning

This.

But in public karting slow in = rammed up the backside

yea i think the last time i was on a go-kart this was an accurate description of the dogshit lawnmower-engine-powered gokarts the track had for use@@DieserAIiasIstSchonVergeben

Agree I went to a K1 and the engine breaking was so intense that just taking your foot off the gas would push you into the seat belts.

Lifting can compromise engine power whereas if you brake hard in short bursts you can decrease the speed just as effectively while maintaining more engine power, and as mentioned in the video turning under braking can be very effective in karts

*brakes

Same

that's where i find Motorcycle technique interesting, especially since instead of just one brake pedal controlling all the wheel brakes at once, you only have two wheel brakes and each has its own lever to actuate it.

Watch this advice on cornering and braking from a true master, Sir Jackie Stewart. He's got lots of great advice, as you can imagine. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-WhgOXVnHYXA.html

fast in slow out is a tool that can be used to pass someone who is going slow in fast out. once you are in front they wont always be able to use their advantage. racing is very complex

As said above, I've done a lot of indoor karting and definitely going sideways heats up tyres MUCH more. The sideways scraping, combined with the need to throw bigger angles to scrub speed, combined with the throttle overuse makes the rear tyres "go off" within ~3mins... Fronts ~5mins. Will take more than a lap of "rolling" for them to recover

Its about hitting the right spot on the break where you start loosing your rear or you can help urself out by turning the wheel while braking. You have to get used to it, also the rentals are all so different in braking/turning that its different from cart to cart, at least thats my experience.

My timing was slower (25.234) when only lifting off. This is because when you release your foot the kart coasts for a period of time. A quick tap of the brakes slows the kart down quicker and you’re able to get better exit speed this way.

Not sure what you was meaning in your comment but take a look at 2:16

@@unusualcomment9731 hmm thanks i didnt see that

Can you kindly explain clearly how do you do that

A "rain motorcycle rider" XD wtf is that lol

Also using throttle as a rotation tactic is very good, but also risky if u are beginner

It depends on what your style is of driving is

what tyoes are there? @@user-xn3si4uv6o

Aren't the corners you are describing exactly like the ones at 0:32? To get through a section of corners as fast as possible it's important to keep the minimum speed up and get a good final exit. With a high entry speed you'll lose speed on that exit, resulting in a lower minimum speed than just having a little lower entry speed and getting a good exit. And being a heavy guy, your biggest hit is to your acceleration, getting a good exit keeps this to a minimum.

Lift a little earlier and coast into the corner if it's a relatively quick one. If its a slow corner, brake gentler but earlier as this doesn't unsettle the kart as much and therefore gives maximum grip at turn in, allowing you to carry more speed before you get the sliding

Braking in rental karts is hard, it takes some experience to find out how hard you should brake without locking the tires

You pump the brake and block the rear wheels, to let the back part move and place your kart in the best direction to leave the curve.

We need comparison w/o full throttle on corners.

Well, karts don't have anywhere near the horsepower to benefit from modulating the throttle, unless it's a 2 stroke or you're racing on a wet surface. In karting, being smooth and precise on the wheel is everything. When you make the decision of going back to the throttle, your approach to the corner had better been the correct approach and a highly experienced racer knows how to make the correct decision over 90% of the time. The instant you're back on the throttle, you need to be 100% committed because when you pedal or modulate the throttle with such low horsepower, it's more costly in the long run than just calculating the proper approach from the beginning without having to lift. In high horsepower applications, it's beneficial to modulate the throttle because the horsepower helps in rotating the car through the corner and modulating the throttle also keeps it settled because you're minimizing wheel spin which is lost time.

Im gonna have to disagree on that statement if you are in a proper electric rental kart OTL storms are decent.. you have enough tq to modulate your throttle inputs to maintain the speed not only going in but going out of the corner as well. One big lift, zero counter and a couple pumps while rotating the kart in the apex will keep the momentum going. So long you get the weight off the inside by leaning out of lifting your bum a lil off the seat... But on gas powered yeah the fall off way to fast.

@edgarrosario8346 Nah. It's like an On/Off switch if they're electric. Still slower to 'modulate'.

@@Cardiakk not really if it feels like an off and on switch kart needs to be trickle charged... Or a power cable to one of the batteries is cooked. You shouldn't have that big of a delay on a freshly charged maintained kart. In fact if you get on it too quick after a big lift it should light up the rears..

@@edgarrosario8346 Dude, electric karts have abrupt throttle curves. I didn't say anything about a delay in throttle response. The throttle response is instantaneous. It's not a smooth curve like fuel karts.

I just found a local indoor karting track and they have there own "league" (nothing official) that you can join if you have consistent times they want. It seems like most karting places have somthing similar and that could lead to other opportunities if you're good enough

@@timhedgepeth hey thank you!