That Euro Keeway is a copy of the XR 150L and the NXR 160 Bros by Honda it just have an inverted fork unlike the Honda's model that has only a Traditional Standard fork. 125's are great especially the enduro models. I have a Yamaha WR125R 4 stroke before and a Yamaha XTZ 125 enduro, these bikes became my stepping stone on learning to ride off-road and all I can say is that you can have fun with these low displacement bikes. Riding is not always about having much more powerful bikes and bigger engines, it's all about the fun you can get while you're on the bike. Some people might think that a 125 is "too small" for you to enjoy riding, but they're thinking so wrong. If you don't put precautions and don't ride safely, this 125cc bike can still kill you. The great thing about starting on a 125 is, you will build your patience and learn how to use power when you switch to much bigger bikes because 125s are not that powerful but they can give you enough experience on riding that you can use on much bigger bikes.
This video was great loved your review I have today been and payed my deposit and will collect in the new year more videos please and yes I know you are busy with the take over of AR kind regards
Thank you for your kind words. Wow, only 800 subscribers then lol. Glad you liked it and hope you enjoy your bike....let us know. We are spending the day with Sinnis in January so will see what they have coming up...yes a video of that day will follow too.
Just to throw in my twoppence worth, The Sinnis is the better equipped of the two but is heavier to begin with and what's it going to weigh when its fully loaded, its only a 125cc with 11Hp after all! The Keeway looks dated but with the larger diameter front wheel would be the more capable machine off-road or on rougher terrain. It's also a blank canvas where luggage is concerned so you can mix and match to suit your own needs. Fit a pannier frame and boxes or just bung some throw-overs on and bungee a kit bag to the rear seat! Much more versatile! Carbs also have an advantage over fuel injection as they are easy to clean out to get you going again when you fill up with dodgy fuel! and use less (no) electrical power to run giving your battery and alternator an easier time! The sinnis does have a screen over the Keeway but how much difference is that really going to make? fuel injection has advantages for serious adventurers as if you go anywhere at altitude, the system will automatically adjust for the difference in air pressure (up to a point!). With a carb, you'll have to change main jets! The Sinnis is more orientated for the road with the smaller front wheel and fatter tyres whereas the Keeway will fair better off road on , not too strenuous, trails with the bigger wheel rolling better over the lumps and bumps while the thinner tyre will shed mud and track better over rough(ish) terrain. With both machines limited to around 11 BHP they're not going to be breaking any trans-continental records but in the right hands they'll do what you want them to!
I bought a sinnis terrain and only had it for 30 days before I took it back to the dealer. I had nothing but problems am sorry to say as when I was raiding the bike I loved it. However I had oil leek. Power loss very big dip in low rev then when I only hit 280 miles the bike broke down. Took it back to the dealer saying it needs a major repair. Dealer told me that they never have problems with this bike. But also I had many of them ( Friday night bike then ).
@@britishmgtow7251 you think thats a big 125? then you should see my Varadero 125XL V twin (and it will cruise at 70mph all day long) with all the gear on!! - it makes my son's Suzuki 650 look small! Unfortunalely they stopped importing them to the UK in 2009 though they did make a few more available in Europe for a couple of years after that.
No, but in GB is better economic situation so the customers are eager to pay more for this. And in Ireland gov put extra 20% on top of GB price as registration tax 😉. So lucky you.
If that terrain had even 3 bhp more i could live with it. I sold mine 8months later. Its just to painfully slow. Went out n bought an old honda xl varadero 125. Much much better bike and you can live with it day to day with its performance..
@@RobinPywell too bad availability is non-existent over here - I've seen like a couple of brand new ones for over 3k GBP and absolutely 0 spare parts available... for 500gbp more I can have Kawasaki Versys X300... or Honda CRF250 Rally. I love my Derbi but I've got one when there were hundreds of them out there and you could actually buy parts without special order and stupid price tag of 30gbp for a single bolt, washer and nut. When it finally stops working it won't be worth repairing from the cost point of view. It's sad :(
Great review 👍, I've got my sights on the keeway tx 125 Vs Sinnis blade X 125. Don't suppose you guys at motors for the masses will be coming across with a review for the Sinnis blade X 125 at any point??? It would be great to get your insight into that bike also
Motors for the Masses I look forward to it. I love how your channel gives an honest opinion and it's great for help choose the right bike especially for my 16 yr old son who I will be buying a 125 very soon. Keep it up !
Is keeway tx 125 ok for going on inclined roads? Like mountain roads untill 1500 meter? I would drive it with my girlfriend. Me and her are 150 kg totally.
The TX is quite a versatile bike; although anything 125, 2 up will slow done going up hill. If you are 2-up, then you can't be on L-plates, so might be better to go for something like the Zontes T310
Be careful Sinnis are not reliable bike seem to have so many problems and not even the company will help you. I had a sinnis stealth and had to scrap it in,because of all the problems starting and light plus chain let me not go on.
I can see some similarities in style and with very similar boxes; can look similar but the engine is a big difference of course. To be fair this bike is aimed towards people that do not want a fast bike; or only have a licence for a 125; or many people would probably go for a 500 or similar. As a 125 adventurer I cannot see anything better. An unbelievable price for a bike with so much equipment and great technology. I was very impressed; and Chinese bikes get a bad rap which we feel is no longer justified. They are not the bikes they used to be; so much better these days. Sinnis...if you are watching; an opportunity to borrow 2 bikes to take offroad and do a riding test drive would be great!?
Hi there, Im afraid we are already working with industry test riders at the moment, but if, in the future the opportunity arises Ill get in contact. Great video by the way.
Hi..fair enough.....although a short offroad trip with 2 Sinnis terrains would be a great marketing opportunity for your bikes..and our channel of course lol
If Zontes, Sinnis and Keeway would just make their 125 cc engines a little more powerful, they would clean up in the small bike market. Their build quality is always improving, but all their 125 scooters and bikes fall way short of the legal power limit in their respective classes. The limit being 15 hp why make a bike that has 9,10 0r 11hp? It cannot be that hard to get engine specs reasonably up to date, even if it added a couple of hundred £ to the price. They would still vastly undercut the big 4 Japanese makers. Both these bikes are great in every respect except one. They are ridiculously sluggish because their engines lack power. If that were not so they would be selling like hot cakes. The magic number here is 70 mph, the legal limit on Uk roads. Most small bikes or scooters can achieve this with a decent 13-15 hp engine. So what on earth are these makers doing dabbling in pathetic 9-11 hp motors? (And no it's not because of the Asian market).No sensible person would buy a small bike and risk struggling on a dual carriageway at 55 mph with coaches and trucks up their arses. It's too dangerous. 70 mph would emancipate these bikes hugely. The other crazy thing is the lack of 150 cc scooters, which are sold in massive quantities around Europe, but not in the uk, purely because of the assumption that there is "no market" due to the UK's licensing restrictions. There is no evidence that this is the case. It is just an assumption made by the blinkered manufacturers. Only a couple of years ago, no manufacturer contemplated releasing a 250-300 cc bike because they stupidly assumed there would be no market for them. How wrong they were. After one manufacturer took the plunge for a change, the market is now awash with 250-300 cc powered and extremely well made bikes, and they have been a huge success. So they were wrong - completely wrong, in not doing this years ago.
You make a valid point re: power. I agree that even for just a couple of hundred pounds more, it would be well worth taking these bikes liquid cooled and up to 14.5 bhp.
fingerhorn4 Fortunately I still have my Varadero 125XL (and they are 'big' believe me); The 'V Twin' engine will actually cruise at 70 mph all day long - why'o why they ever stopped making them I'll never know!!? A bullet proof Honda Engine and when I pull-up next to my sons Suzuki 650 I actually look to be on the bigger bike!! p.s. and its water cooled with temp gauge - I don't think the Sinnis is?!
@@motorsforthemasses Thanks for your kind reply. I wish you luck with these bikes. They do look very good value. As you say, it they weren't air cooled they would give the Japanese manufacturers a well-overdue challenge.
@@justbanter8727 I agree. I tried a Varadero years ago and it was, and is still, a great bike. I went for something slightly more powerful but in a way I regret that.
@@fingerhorn4 I do really like the Sinnus Terrain, the looks are great, I had one park-up next to me the other day and it looked pretty stunning for a 125 however as Motors for the Masses says it perhaps just needs that little extra 14.5/15 bhp and perhaps some liquid cooling, that would make it the king of small touring bikes to me personally - maintaining a steady 60/70 mph would complete the package.
125 4 stroke is not really a "waste of time". It's a beginner bike, man. Some people think that you must have a bigger displacement bike just to enjoy riding, but they thinking so wrong. Riding is not always about having big engines, it's all about the fun and adventure you can experience even though you don"t have that much bigger bike. I did ride a 125 before, a yamaha wr 125r and a yamaha xtz 125, all of these models were enduro and these bikes became my stepping stone on learning how to ride on dirt and off road then I had my first mx bike after 3 years of riding a "non-race" enduro, a YZ 125. Yes, it's also a 125 but it's not a beginner bike, man. That Yz 125 can fly. Lol.
Lol this is the UK how exactly do you go offroad? everywheres illegal. Its ok if you live elsewhere in the world. Theres no real practical use for these bikes to the average joe bloggs
