Brandon Sanderson DESTROYS The Wheel of Time with FACTS and LOGIC! 

Is that a euphemism?

@@chrisf2636 That's potentially a hilarious twisty way of seeing it! You need a phallic item to defeat a Forsaken, rendering the female characters impotent and unable to win.

I used to wait and hope my favorite books got adaptations. Now I hope for the opposite...

Yeah but Rafe is trying to oneup Rian Johnson in the subverting expectations department. Subverting expectations is the highest form of art, don't you know? Peter Jackson should have killed off Frodo and gave the Ring to Rosie who would then become the Queen of Middle Earth after she makes Sauron tell her that she is so stunning, so brave.

Season? I've been waiting 30 years!

Really? I did not. Rand spent no time training with the sword to do that, apart from the old man in the asylum, so Turak is fine. Logain gave more training in saidin than Lan in swords, and that leads into Rand's other trainer that is going to come,. Which is why he did not face off against Ishamael in that finale.

I think that would be a hard pass for Brandon. As should any inquiries from Benioff and/or Weiss.

I think he's eager to have it adopted, but he would demand creative control as well.

I don't think Brandon even gave him permission for wheel of time it was probably Harriet

Makes you wonder why mom is fighting them on Stargate now

Why bring him on as a consultant if they're not gonna listen? Simple, so they can use his name to bring in book fans while keeping to their fanfic.

purposeful subversion of western art

@@BlissfullWulf The first season ruined any book fan's perception on wanting to watch this trash. I mean the first 2 episodes of S1 do that. And sanderson in the full showing of this said it was going to be the last time we see his name in association with WoT TV series, so I'm assuming he refused to "consult" anymore since they never actually listened.

dusty wheel is woke first and book fan fourth or fifth on the list. Daniel Greene is wearing a bisexual shirt, so he is woke first as well.

​@@jonahdav9589at least Daniel can recognize bad writing. i was starting to wonder til this stream, tho..

@@jonahdav9589 Dude, listen. I agree with you. I read the books and goddamn it, does the show suck. But you have to understand that the show doesn't suck "because it's woke". The show sucks because the writers are bad/or they don't care. Tell me one scene in this finale or anything about Brandon's complains that have anything to do with "being woke"?

@@mixed6365 sure, challenge accepted: Egwene saving herself without help. Egweine saving Rand and fighting Ishamael. Perrin not having arc. Moraine destroying all the ships. Playing fast and loose with their own rules. And lots of others. Now, this issue is that you will say all of those are due to poor writing, not wokeness. However, the question is why is the writing bad in a particular way. Is it because of lack of education or experience, lack of understanding of the source material, inability to collaborate well with multiple writers, or (woke) ideology? Most of the issues originate from the need to follow of the “unwritten rules of wokeness”. Women don’t need help, they can’t have a white man save them or do anything that they can’t do themselves but better, people are good the way they and therefore don’t need to change and therefore don’t get a character arc (ie you can’t have a story about a fat person that decides to be a great protector hero so they employ discipline and character growth to change who they are and forge their body into one suited for the task, instead they realize that their power lies in accepting the greatness of their greatness and making sure everyone else around them does as well), forced diversity which destroys the rich culture of the setting (not a complaint I heard from BS in this video but one many fans had), also woke ideology is not rooting in truth and facts but rather narrative and feelings, so whatever is convenient at the time is acceptable, leading to playing fast and loose with their own rules. Does that answer your question?

@@bigd5773 Honestly? No, not really. I'll actually agree with you on the whole Egwene thing, so there, at least you have a point about that plot line. But all other examples you have are you wanting to make It about "woke culture" (I actually laughed at "Perrin not havin am arc", like, how is THAT mess related at ALL with wokeness?) The fact you kmew I was gonna say most of those things aren't a "woke writing" problem shows that you recognize deep Down that you have to make some mental gymnastics to make that connection. Replace Egwene or Moiraine with white male characters and you'll see that their poor arcs and inconsistencies stil hold up, so would that still be woke? Once again, just to be clear. I am not defending the show and the moments and arcs you mentioned bug me just as much. Also, I'm not saying that the producers, cast dorectiors or whatever aren't "woke people". Of course they are, Rafe himself has a husband, but that in of itself isn't the problem. Incompetent writing is.

If you need to "fix" the books problems you are not a fan

@@TechnicallyMexican Imagine not understanding quest fantasy 😆

@@TechnicallyMexican- The books aren’t perfect, but that’s also apart of the charm.

@@TechnicallyMexican not true. The villains are awesome in the show.

@@GunnerstahlY LOL no, but I'm glad you enjoyed them, I can't take that away from you.

Not included in this video, but Brandon straight up told him to his face that he is blind to flaws cause he wants so badly to like the show.

@@TechnicallyMexican what point in the stream was that? Only watched the end discussion

The full stream is worth watching. I tried to fit in all the interesting bits here though

@@TechnicallyMexican It was, I watched it live. You covered all the important beats and made it a ton of fun with the meme. Bravo.

I think Rafe, at one point, liked the books if he read them in his youth. But the WOKE mind virus destroys everything it touches. It falls apart when confronted with reality and logic. So they, by necessity, have to systematically change reality around them. That's why everything needs to be "fixed", why everything is problematic, and why Comedy is dead, Because what they fear MOST is a mirror. They paint over every reflective surface.

Oh, don't be like that! They did read it and loved it, and now they are doing their fanfic of the books. Watch it like that and you'll be able to enjoy the show. I swear on the Oath Rod, because it's exactly what I am doing. ;D

@@AnaElglin Just cover your eyes and ears and then forget everything you loved about the books and THEN you should be able to enjoy the show!

@@TechnicallyMexicanI remember reading about someone asking Rafe why he changed the books to make even the girls to possibly be the dragon and why he takes some of the moments that belong to the boys and gives them to the girls and his answer was.... BECAUSE I'M A FEMINIST!!!! That tells you everything you need to know.

@@TechnicallyMexican sorry but I don't agree with the whole woke mind stuff. Woke is only used as a term nowadays about things people don't like, there will be one simple change and people will just call it woke because the media has fed them that woke=bad even though it isn't. It can be bad yes, but not always......

Yeah, the clips are a hard balance. The more I use the safer I am against copyright strikes.

you should have seen him during season 1. seemed like he was quite determined to not burn his relationships with hollywood. i guess he's choosing to hitch his bets on a different kind of relationship now. i don't care for sanderson.

I really think Brandon was gonna just hold his peace about the show, but the terrible writing in it just pushed him over the edge.

There was a non-disparagement clause involved with Season 1. Daniel Greene had the same thing, which he mentioned in his Rings of Power review

@@TechnicallyMexican Makes sense! Those rat bastards. They don’t even have to speak out, the content speaks for itself

The problem is Brandon is such a nice guy he only sees it as inexperience rather than the maliciousness we all know it to be

@@TechnicallyMexican Your video will be my go to response to all the shills. It is the 1990s Buffy stabbing a stake in Rafe and the other marxist showrunners darkfiend hearts.

He was probably under an NDA, since he had access to the scripts.

Rafe was never looking for Brandon's input. The only reason he was involved was so that they could attach his name to the project and give it some validity

Sanderson was also a HUGE WoT Book fan, and RJ is essentially why he realized he wanted to write his own stories and decided to change paths in college, before he ever got the opportunity offered to him. Short of Harriet herself, Sanderson is literally the best person to be part of the consultation for this show (if being listened to). What Rafe has done to this series is a Travesty worse than the last season of GoT.

Brandon told his agent NOT to negotiate a price either. He said, just say yes to whatever they offer.

Lightsaber Ashandarei BABY!

Thank you I had to do a lot of leveling to get make sure the audio was always audible

The mind virus destroys everything it touches

Eh wouldn't give woke stuff the blame, because it isn't. A lot of people still liked the show and so it succeeded in that regard. Also a lot of stuff in the books themselves can also be called woke but that only reveals that people nowadays just call everything woke that they don't like and that is just sad...... Woke is just about accepting people, but it looks like people rather go back to the good old days where they can be racist, sexist and homophobic without a worry in the world, just stomping those "humans" down...... Very, very sad this world has become

@@magnus5747 Amazing, everything you just said is wrong. I have been fighting against racism my entire life, but get called racist for looking beyond the color of a persons skin. The left ONLY cares about skin color, the Democrat party literally founded the KKK. Planned parenthood was created as a eugenics experiment. But go on and keep calling US racist, sexist and homophobic. Your insults have lost all meaning.

@@TechnicallyMexican The Democrats did found the KKK, but that does not excuse the simple fact that the KKK now is in the Republican Party, which is championing all the bad stuff the Forsaken portray in the books. The OP is not wrong in the post. Not liking woke because it is the in thing these days is risking crossing lines that cannot be undone. For the show, I am enjoying it, and I have reread the books plenty of times. I appreciate that the books events cannot be showed exactly on screen as they occurred, like the Falme battle. I even really like the dragon, which is pretty much the banner dragon from the books in fire form. Which explains Aviendha's comment, since she should recognise the form.

I'm glad it entertained you!

Thank YOU for watching. They take forever to make, so I'm glad they are appreciated. There's LOTs more on the Devoid of Logic playlist

Thank you, it's a lot of work

Fantastic editing and man some of your clip pulls are wonderfully obscure 🤩

The full reaction is on Brandon's channel & The Dusty Wheel's, but it's like a 2 hour stream. This is a supercut.

@@TechnicallyMexican thanks

Brandon is too nice to see that the arguments are not being made in good faith. He attributes to inexperience what we can all clearly see is malice and hatred for the source material.

Greene (the young guy) loves the books. But he's also clearly a social media influencer who's scared of losing his meal ticket.

I love that Brandon uses his real name too, it shows how much he cared about him

It's worse... That is Matt Hatch and he was actually honored with a cameo character NAMED AFTER HIM in the books, and he now turns around to disrespect the books like this.

I love animation, so I would have been fine with it. Unfortunately, DEI has been increasing the cost of animation for years. It can be just as expensive now

@@TechnicallyMexican Samurai Jack animation would have been epic for me...as long as the source material was honored.

Some people don't like them, but it's how I make the video fair use. I'm glad you enjoyed the show.

Season 3 is in production right now but that was approved at the same time as S1. After season 2, Amazon has been dead silent on S4 renewal despite fans BEGGING for an announcement. You can bet they are disappointed with nunbers and are waiting to see how S3 pans out before renewing again. S3 could be the LAST

@@TechnicallyMexicanS3 SHOULD be last more like. Heck, should never have gotten a season 1 in the first place with such writers. Wish the WoT series was adapted in the early 2000s around LOTR time as well as take a note or two from Peter Jackson.

It's pretty embarasing

Thank you, it's just me, though. I do everything on the channel. Which is my my videos take so long

And this is him trying to be NICE to the show so he doesn't offend anybody.

@@TechnicallyMexican really loved this video. It was so refreshing to see Sanderson finally be honest about what he clearly understands to be a failed adaptation. I guess he isnt as concerned with Amazon Prime taking the reins with Stormlight anymore after seeing the type of dross they are prepared to release. Thanks for putting this together.

They went woke with Korra too though, so that's a no for me. I don't k ow who I'd trust it with if I was in charge.

@TechnicallyMexican o well that's a bummer. Still I think a well done animated series would be worth while

It's the only way to keep it fair use man. I literally just had my channel get a false Copyright stike from Amazon that delisted my channel for 2 months for a similar video. If you wanna watch him talk, the full video is on Brandon's channel.

It's 2 hours long and doesn't have the video overlay I added but yes: ru-vid.comu7d8DYs7G2g?feature=shared

I have to include all the edits so Amazon doesn't strike my channel for 2 months AGAIN.

@@TechnicallyMexican Ah, makes sense. I'll watch the full version. I am glad people are able to get enjoyment out of the edits even when I can't.

In name only

@@TechnicallyMexican Exactly on the bright side it did gave me an urge to re read the first book again but yea I'm never giving this show a 2nd chance. Id check out a different adaptation in the future if some other studio wants to adapt WoT hopefully with a dedicated vision of being as faithful to the source material's spirit story and characters of RJ as well Word of The Rings movie Trilogy tried to be for Tolkin.

Rightfully so considering the show showed Nynaeve do some world (and lore) breaking healing in S1, just to have her do absolutely shit all.

I feel it my duty to watch. Someone has to hold them accountable.

@@TechnicallyMexican Thanks for taking one for the team :0)

Matt Hatch of The Dusty Wheel. He has a character named after HIM in the books. But he's so blind by wokeness, he's willing to sell his birthright for a mess of pottage...

I get that a lot, it's not for everybody. You should check out the full livestream: ru-vid.comu7d8DYs7G2g?feature=shared It's long but worth it

A couple Jesus Christ Superstar clips also made it into my edit for Falcon and the Winter Soldier.

Hell yes. Hahahah!

It created a stupid "we are mad at each other" plot pine between Lan and Moiraine that is not in the books and ate up precious screentime that should have been used developing the main characters. Adituonally, it is derivative of similar plot lines that happen later in the books that will now be less effective/repetitive. Lan grieving loss of the bond is now going to be pointless come the events of book 5.

@@TechnicallyMexican I see thank you

@@TechnicallyMexican I can't imagine them doing those events from book 5. I think the Finn are going to be removed completely (they've already found another way to give Mat his weapon) and Lanfear is going to have a redemption arc. They'll create some other contrived drama to keep Moiraine a main character when she should be MIA through the twisted doorway.

@@davekendall5273 OF COURSE they are not going to remove their MAIN Character from the show for 6 seasons, you are absolutely correct.

Matt Hatch

He's literally IN the books, Matt Hatch of The Dusty Wheel...

They already rewarded him with ANOTHER show. He's doing God of War now too

If a show on Amazon/Netflix/Disney adapts a show and it is to the source material, it is an accident. They are actively in this for one real purpose, 1984 wrongthink and cultural replacement.

@@TechnicallyMexican I guess that seems like something that might be more his speed.

@@TechnicallyMexican We can always hope Prime will sideline or even fire him after this disaster.

Matt Hatch from The Dusty Wheel. Also Brandon's employee, he helps with his RU-vid channel.

to be fair, as i continued watching, some of it was funny. but still a little TOO much cutting around.

The full video is on both Brandon Sanderson's channel and The Dusty Wheel. I have to insert clips to ensure fair use, otherwise it would just be stealing.

They all WANT to like the show. Brandon because he loves the books, the other 2 because they love the identity politics. They are at war with themselves

"The guy on the left" is Daniel Greene, only one of the biggest booktuber on RU-vid. He is a hardcore fan of WoT books. So let's just say, he is a positive man and it's hard to get him to create hate content but knows the books as much as BrandoSando... oh yes, and he is an author too, so he knows a thing or two. He is there bc he earned to be there. As for Sanderson... he never went for the money. He is well known for be a humble man. He became successful? Yes. He sold his books cheap and left it like this? No. He is under discussion and he didn't leave his books out of his hands. He won't sign anything until he is involved to the making. That's a fact. We know everything about the project as it progresses.

then watch the source

I always judge adaptations twice: Is this a good adaptation? And is this a good show? The Wheel of Time fails on BOTH accounts