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Brass Saddles V. Steel - Can You Hear the Difference? 

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This week I take a look at the tonal comparisons between brass saddles and steel saddles on a Telecaster style guitar. This was a fairly simple modification that made a pretty big difference. Tell me how you thought it sounded with the new saddles!

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9 апр 2021

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@joeking433
@joeking433 10 месяцев назад
I've often wondered this and actually bought brass compensated saddles for a Tele I had with steel saddles. I didn't hear any difference but the brass looked better, LOL!
@nitewulf2020
@nitewulf2020 2 месяца назад
I agree with, and wholly endorse this comment😁👍
@rudemooddudehamburg
@rudemooddudehamburg 2 года назад
Pretty cool and informative video!
@MillerCustomGuitars
@MillerCustomGuitars 2 года назад
Thanks man!
@normbarrows
@normbarrows 2 года назад
As expected, brass kills the treble less. When your saddles are too low, you can raise the bridge, or shim the neck to reduce the neck break angle with the body - either one works.
@dwightpatterson9477
@dwightpatterson9477 2 месяца назад
I like the brass it’s warmer, but a lot of your tone comes from the touch of your hands,how you pick and strum
@ddminis4813
@ddminis4813 3 года назад
I actually prefer the sound of the steel saddles.
@RideAcrossTheRiver
@RideAcrossTheRiver Год назад
That's not a Tele sound, though
@repensandonovamente1162
@repensandonovamente1162 Год назад
Thanks from Brazil!
@geoffrussell8422
@geoffrussell8422 2 года назад
Just gathering the parts for partscaster which coincidentally is the same as your including the greg koch pickups. I'm struggling to decide what 3 barrel bridge to install. What make of bridge did you go for? Thanks Geoff Russell
@MillerCustomGuitars
@MillerCustomGuitars 2 года назад
Telecaster Chrome Bridge w/Compensated Brass Saddles & Cut-Down Sides for Fender Tele Guitar www.amazon.com/dp/B0866D8582/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_i_T73VYD7FENZ99FVYJ8Q0?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
@1thess523
@1thess523 Год назад
Thanks for playing with overdrive 👍
@arnottclark6959
@arnottclark6959 2 года назад
To me there's a difference , but was it a significant one . Once the drums and the bass kick in , can you ultimately tell the difference ?
@MillerCustomGuitars
@MillerCustomGuitars 2 года назад
I didn’t do it for them, I did it for me :D
@treishtrei
@treishtrei Год назад
I find brass to be harsh and too bright, but richer in harmonics. However I settled on Titanium saddles.
@MillerCustomGuitars
@MillerCustomGuitars Год назад
Really!?! Titanium?! I have so many questions! Where do you get them? I know Titanium is super hard (from working at a machine shop), do you find you break strings a lot? Was it expensive?
@treishtrei
@treishtrei Год назад
@@MillerCustomGuitars nope. No string break ever. They are rounded where the string touches. They were $45 on aliexpress, a set of 6.
@MillerCustomGuitars
@MillerCustomGuitars Год назад
@@treishtrei Jeeze, seriously?
@airdog1829
@airdog1829 Год назад
You can get a 6 way with brass block saddles. Comparing a 6 way bridge with a 3 saddle vintage style bridge is tricky though. Is it the material used for the saddles, or the style of bridge that makes the difference?
@MillerCustomGuitars
@MillerCustomGuitars Год назад
That’s a good question! I definitely noticed a difference and I prefer it this way, though.
@bradleyshuppert3393
@bradleyshuppert3393 2 года назад
Steel sounds hotter and the brass warm….. the brand of strings you play, pure nickel or steel core nickel wrap, or steel will play a huge part too. I can hear the difference between stainless steel frets and Dunlop nickel frets all day long…. The sun of all parts makes guitars work for certain people, tone is in your hands…. No matter what guitars you play…. You sound and play like you…
@jackflicker8577
@jackflicker8577 Год назад
the 3 saddles vs 6 saddles probably affects the tone more
@MillerCustomGuitars
@MillerCustomGuitars Год назад
Yeah probably. Especially since it’s really hard to get the intonation perfect on a 3-saddle bridge
@parismetro2012
@parismetro2012 10 месяцев назад
brass is fab... I love a chrome plated steel baseplate...not all are. A steel baseplate resonates around the bridge pickup; some are chrome plated brass, which sounds radically different
@kct9967
@kct9967 2 года назад
You can really hear the difference on the bridge pickup.
@chavruta2000
@chavruta2000 Год назад
how about brass for the high strings and steel for the low strings. aha! brass sounds like new strings kinda.
@boco1951
@boco1951 7 месяцев назад
Steel saddles are terrific for me. Brass saddles get mushy just get quality steel saddles.
@geraldponce8336
@geraldponce8336 10 месяцев назад
It is possible to replace the saddles screws with longer ones as well as brass saddle screws. Seems like you were set on changing saddles, anyways. But if they were worth keeping. Of course you can get more intonatible individual brass block saddles. You can also get a solid brass modern or vintage bridge. Though the vintage style ones are a little harder to come by. Personally I like a solid brass modern bridge saddle screws and all.
@MillerCustomGuitars
@MillerCustomGuitars 10 месяцев назад
I have not had much success finding replacement saddle adjustment screws. Just use the ones that come with the saddles.
@geraldponce8336
@geraldponce8336 10 месяцев назад
@@MillerCustomGuitars yeah, I can't deal with the intonation issues with vintage saddles or the lip on the side. Condensated brass saddles seems like the way to go. I like the Gotah solid brass modern bridge. That is where you could get brass saddle blocks from. But the string spacing would have to match your bridge. Theirs are 2 1/8. Probably easier just to buy the whole bridge.
@hajwitlox6548
@hajwitlox6548 11 месяцев назад
You should have tested it with the same style saddles
@MillerCustomGuitars
@MillerCustomGuitars 11 месяцев назад
Well, you may have a point but I used what I had at the time. However, honestly I think that the shape of the saddle wouldn’t make a difference to the sound. Maybe I’ll revisit in the future.
@hajwitlox6548
@hajwitlox6548 11 месяцев назад
No sweat. You might be right.. I was just wondering
@josecubanosantiago4724
@josecubanosantiago4724 10 месяцев назад
Idk but I like the steel better at least on the bridge
@MillerCustomGuitars
@MillerCustomGuitars 10 месяцев назад
That's fair. The extra brightness may be preferred for some.
@darrellm3410
@darrellm3410 2 года назад
Brass sounds smoother
@MillerCustomGuitars
@MillerCustomGuitars 2 года назад
You found my channel!!
@ktrn2b
@ktrn2b 2 года назад
Miller Guitars!! Cool!! Millers my last name as well. The Brass is velvet like vs the steel lol. The notes Bloom more with the Brass imo :-)
@MillerCustomGuitars
@MillerCustomGuitars 2 года назад
Miller’s unite! Unite against bad tone and poorly set up guitars!
@MillerCustomGuitars
@MillerCustomGuitars 2 года назад
100% agree about the note bloom, though.
@user-is4yk4sh7p
@user-is4yk4sh7p 3 года назад
Steel is a little bit better
@terryjohinke8065
@terryjohinke8065 Год назад
I use Gotoh chrome covered brass , six indidual types and I have very good hearing ( as per hearing tests) and , to me , brass is a deeper sound. Also Wilikinson Brass compensated saddles. Both are good. My 2004 Hwy. 1 came with a Fender steel bridge ( curiously enough) and I think they were okay, Gotoh better for individual intonation. I don't know where your steel saddles were made but I can feel a more mellow sound with brass. So, if you want "Twang" use steel. JMHO
@MillerCustomGuitars
@MillerCustomGuitars Год назад
Yeah those steel saddles where probably whatever was cheapest. Lol
@guitarjeff55
@guitarjeff55 26 дней назад
Try Steel Fretts Loud Bright
@akkiakki79
@akkiakki79 2 года назад
Braas one for me
@JohnOakwest
@JohnOakwest Год назад
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@georgeslavin6137
@georgeslavin6137 5 месяцев назад
The steel saddles sound better !
@MillerCustomGuitars
@MillerCustomGuitars 5 месяцев назад
I personally don't think one is better than another, I think that they have different characteristics that may be preferred in different scenarios. I found the Steel to be brighter and the brass to be warmer, personally. In some situations you may want the warmth of the brass or the brightness of the steel. But thanks for watching!
@BixLives32
@BixLives32 Месяц назад
you mounted your bridge a fraction of a mm too far from the 12th fret. NEVER hand make your neck or drill body holes for the bridge. A 1/4 of a mm in either direction will require you to re-tune your ax every time you change keys. (it will NEVER intonate correctly). It's not an easy fix because no wood filler is as strong and resonate as wood. Use a standard 2 part apoxy with sawdust (in a hurry) to fill the old holes. Wait a week and re-drill. OR, just buy a NEW light body that is already drilled. Stew mac has fair stuff, -nothing lightweight, however. Parts made by reputable companies (e.g. Schecter) will be made using CNN manufacturing. This is GOOD. This is why MOST new guitars tune well, out of the box. As a kid, I remember the days before CNN (long before) when your first consideration for buying ANY guitar was it's ability to tune! To find a well tuning box that also sounded like a cathedral would cost significant bucks (for the day). I have no idea how Leo did it, but most NEW pre-Colombian Fenders played in tune -even Teles with but three adjusters. The NEW repro threaded steel saddles are not good. The original threaded steel saddles were made from over-head cam engine bolts (valve cover bolts cut into pieces). These bolts were made from the finest hardened (dense) steel. Today, however, the repro threaded saddles are CAST from MOLDS and less dense steel ( made with zinc! How cheap can you get?). Hence, the modern threaded saddles don't sound good. I have a '65 Esquire. When I tried to replace my original threaded saddles with the standard, modern Fender 6 adjuster, barrel saddles, the sound reduction was obvious and severe. I played one chord and 4 or 5 notes. I then put the original saddle back onto the guitar -FAST. It was frightening. BTW, this guitars weighs just an ounce over 5 bs and has more sustain than any electric guitar I have played in over 50 years. Nope, it's made from ordinary Alder. However, the pieces were but from the outside of the tree. Outside wood is lighter. With Ash, the wood MUST be taken from below the water line to yield a guitar under 8 or 9 lbs. Modern Fender is making fine guitars, but you have to lift weights to play them. I have regularly seen Les Paul's that are lighter than Teles. A heavy body may sound OK and clean, but only a LIGHT electric guitar body can offer enough resonation and sustain to make the guitar sound so good that your will sell your wife to the the Arabs before you sell your guitar.
@MillerCustomGuitars
@MillerCustomGuitars Месяц назад
This is by far the most bizarre comment I've ever receive. It's also not true. This guitar intonates fine. Literally my entire channel is to teach guitar owners how to get the most out of their guitars. This includes setup and installation. And honestly, 1/4 of a millimeter closer or further from the neck is completely absorbable by the adjustments available in electric saddles.
@RideAcrossTheRiver
@RideAcrossTheRiver 9 месяцев назад
Steel sounds better for your tuning.
@MELONenSURPRISE
@MELONenSURPRISE Год назад
That girl didn't even Dance , brass is warmer
@skillracoonful
@skillracoonful Год назад
I would rather have you to turn up the guitar amp because the camera mic is picking up the actual sound of the guitar and not the amp.
@MillerCustomGuitars
@MillerCustomGuitars Год назад
Thanks for the input. This was what I had at the time. If you watch my more recent videos you will see that I have a better way of micing both vocals and guitar amps now. However, I think that, while what you are saying is true, I believe that you can hear the difference in the clips, which is the point. I hope you check out some of my other videos, like the Filtertron V PAF V Active pickups video, and you will see how much I’ve grown as a video maker in a year.
@jedfiekel9809
@jedfiekel9809 2 года назад
If the height adjustment set screws and the intonation adjustment screws are steel, change them for brass ones... AND remove the springs behind the saddles. Your welcome.
@MillerCustomGuitars
@MillerCustomGuitars 2 года назад
I don’t think this would make a difference since the string doesn’t come in contact with those.
@jedfiekel9809
@jedfiekel9809 2 года назад
@@MillerCustomGuitars it makes a difference. Try it. I'm not being a know-it-all or anything... I have done this... it also makes a difference on aluminum with steel set screws. The steel deadens the natural vibrational (characteristics?) (Resonance?)... I can't think of which word would describe it. Lol. But the steel parts cancel out a lot of the brass or aluminum sound. You don't have to try it if you don't want to.
@MillerCustomGuitars
@MillerCustomGuitars 2 года назад
@@jedfiekel9809 Well, I don’t “think“ it would make a difference… But I haven’t actually tried it myself so I can’t actually say whether it would or not. So, I guess you could be right! Something to try sometime in the future, I guess.
@andreasfetzer7559
@andreasfetzer7559 2 года назад
I would like to give you an advise. First , you should tune the guitar propperly. Sometimes a tuned guitar will still be off, when you press too hard with the left hand. For shure, you pick too hard . Way too hard.
@MillerCustomGuitars
@MillerCustomGuitars 2 года назад
I play how I play man. I play how I play.
@andreasfetzer7559
@andreasfetzer7559 2 года назад
@@MillerCustomGuitars Shure.
@WAHRHOCHZEHN
@WAHRHOCHZEHN 2 года назад
@@MillerCustomGuitars But we listen how we listen. And your video adresses itself to listeners.
@ciananbrennan8405
@ciananbrennan8405 2 года назад
Sounded good to me
@nadagiamusic5536
@nadagiamusic5536 2 года назад
I think action way to low. A note choke
@eyedunno8462
@eyedunno8462 5 месяцев назад
We would hear the difference if you used an appropriate microphone
@MillerCustomGuitars
@MillerCustomGuitars 5 месяцев назад
That's what I had at the time, man. I feel like even though the iphone mic you can tell a difference, though.
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