Braverman and Johnson: 'You call that a scandal?' | LBC 

It is ridiculous that someone like nick is paid to have a platform

I'm sorry, but an MP, let alone a minister, should be at the highest standard of the law, not scurrying around getting fines hidden away or having parties when it's illegal cause they want to have fun. They are there to perform a governing role not use it as their personal 'get out of responsibility card', personal slush fund, or heck do the bidding of donors aka monied interests ( foreign ones at that)

Shocking take from on of the worst presenters on the radio. If we can't hold our leaders to their own rules then we are lost but don't worry Nick will be fine...

That’s how endemic corruption starts Little by Little.

They also have proper scandals,like child poverty and people on NHS waiting lists for so long that they die before they can receive life saving treatment.😢

When is this dinosaur going to retire?

Ferrari running interference for corrupt Tories again. It’s what he does best.

If it was Labour party you would be doing a jig

Hundreds of thousands died from covid while he was ignoring rules.

Yes, IT IS a scandal. Ministers & those representing us in parliament should be setting the highest standards. They should not be lying or evading the truth, trying to pretend they've done nothing wrong! As for Nick, I sincerely hope he is playing devil's advocate & doesn't actually believe the twaddle he's spouting!

There is one difference. In the past ministers resigned. Nowadays, you can break the law and still remain in office.

Our politicians think there is something called a "proper scandal."

Johnson was having social gatherings during lockdown where people got fined £10,000 for doing the same thing. Cant see for the life of me why folk would be annoyed by that.

If the public don’t see their leaders abiding by the rules then why should the public?

Ferarri deflecting and defending on behalf of the Tories, just an ordinary weekday.

It's very worrying that people of Nick's generation consider MPs using their position and privilege to strong-arm for flagrant violations of "equality under the law" as not deserving of scrutiny. Surely the absolute foundation of law is that we ensure nobody is exempt or given special treatment, and that nobody elected by the common people is arrogant enough to demand such

Perhaps the tories will put in their manifesto that they will confine themselves to 'proper' scandals in future.

I'm glad Nick has no intention of running for MP, he would see the code of ethics and bawk at it

Wow there you go. That’s why we are in the state we are as people like nick (so called journo) doesn’t hold people to account.

Any corruption is unacceptable.

Ministers didnt used to keep breaking the law.

It should be a scandal.. shes been sacked once for breaking the ministerial code and looks like she broke it atleast twice.. that we know of.. its showing a pattern. We don't know what she did because we have not had the inquiry. But civil servants felt they should report her behavior... So worth looking at

Is breaking rules that would get you fired from any other job a scandal? Of course it is.

There were no parties, There were no parties just work events, There were parties but he didn't know about them, There were parties, he did know about them but didn't realise they were parties, There were parties, he knew they were parties but didn't organise them, There were parties and he organised them but this isn't really a scandal and no one cares Meanwhile I couldn't go to my grandfather's funeral.

Trying to use their position of profesdional power to get special treatment at the cost and time of civil servants who are funded by tax payers and having partied breaching your own laws designed to save lives, while you tell other people they cant visit their family in hospital as they die. Yes that is a scandal. It shows how little regard for us, due diligience, morality or competenc😊

Wonder if nick or that MP would have the same opinion if it was police trying to abuse their powers and position. We all know the answer to that

So it’s o.k. to break the rules so long as you don’t break them too badly and you’re a Tory. Another great take from Nick.

The scandal Mr Leigh is that you're my MP ans under the current voting system I can do nothing about it! I cringe every time he stands up in Parliament.

It’s ridiculous. These ministers are meant to be the voice of the ppl but they’re too busy partying, dodging fines and courses and trying to use the CS as their own personal employees. Sick of the Tory government.

Its not the asking for advice, its the cover up.

The biggest scandal is that an mp cannot be sacked unless the taxpayer is prepared to stump up close to a million pounds to get rid of them 😳

Yes it is the level of scandal because MPs used to behave like people who were subject to the law and standard of office.

The political scandal is the fact that these issues are not just one offs, but they are serial liars, been found out multiple times, been punished multiple times, but still continue with their ‘I don’t give a $h1t about you’ attitude and think they are always beyond the rules and continue.

No she is not right.. it was a personal issue nothing to do with the staff in Whitehall...

Nick Ferrari having selective memory... suddenly this is nothing burger but I still remember his massive outrage about even strikes, as if ruling tory party members are kings and queens, while the pleb cannot fight for their rights... how typical of him... tory party activist!

That's right - just ignore the erosion of our democracy. Heaven forbid that we ask our elected representatives be held to some standard. And remind me, when was the last time Nick talked about "serious" scandals?

No wonder moral standards in public office are declining when ppl like Ferrari are normalising it.

No, you can not ask your employees to try and get a one on one when everyone else has to do a public course. Stop trying to normalise Tories getting special treatment.

We don't want any more scandals being limited and specific, do we?

Keep trying to downplay it, nick. No ones buying it.

Ferrari makes me laugh. His opinion is, well this chap has already been done for one crime do we really to try him for the others. Can't believe people are still defending Johnson, he was one of the worst prime ministers ever, didn't deliver anything in his manifesto and was totally morally corrupt.

Drop one feather on someone and it is mostly insignificant…maybe a bit irritating. Drop a million feathers on them and they are suffocating! The individual incidents in isolation may not seem that big of a deal but add them to all the other incidents and it shows the corrupt egotistical nature of the tory MP’s, who seem to believe that even when they personally are involved in making and enforcing laws or codes of conduct, they are well within their rights to either break or be above them. That is the issue. The bigger picture shows that they believe that they are too important to be held to account and that should not be the case.

Insidious toad agrees with Insidious toad who downplays scandals by Insidious toads

A proper scandal like Brexit?

No. He is not right. "Caesar's wife should not only be beyond reproach, but should seen to be beyond reproach". If I had approached a senior civil servant, or had a party during lockdown, then I would expect to take the consequences of those actions.

YES. Any minister caught lying or trying to deceive or mislead about anything no matter how superficial or trivial is newsworthy and should be punished.

If laws and the ministerial code are not important, then why do they exist? If a member of Parliament doesn't follow rules then why should anyone? Why should members of Parliament or even a Prime Minister be held to a lesser standard than the rest of us? I would be interested to know Nick Ferrari's answers to these questions. Ultimately yes, there have been worse 'scandals' in British politics and consequences should be proportional to the offence but would a court accept that defence? "Yes I mugged someone and stole £50 off of them but it's not as bad as blowing up a building so what's the problem?" You shouldn't just avoid consequences if you can point out a time where someone else at some point did something as bad or worse, that's nonsense and I think Nick Ferrari should be smart enough to know that.

The Ukraine war is not a proper war, we had WWII. Badly done Mr Ferrari.

And yet if keir starmer had a gathering during lockdown i could imagine the right wing press running headlines on it for like a fortnight...

Rishi's wife is still doing business in Russia, now there's a scandal, but no one talks about that....

And discussing what a woman is? When the tories and tory supporters wants to dodge something they come up with some culture war topic. This is different though, the home minister and Boris Johnson did illegal things. What do you think is more important then?

He's not right though. If you think trying to cheat the system is acceptable. Then you are part of the problem.

Braverman and Johnson rent a room in your head for free!😂😂😂

Ahhhh, that's the new angle to bury the corruption and lies

No he is wrong. Ministers used to resign for Speeding.

Yes it is, Nick. You just don't like it because they're your team.

Now imagine how Nick would be behaving if this was a Labour government.

So corruption is fine as long as you say so?

Braverman has a history of incongruous conduct. The Tories excel at subterfuge. Sunak appointed a minister previously pretending to be another person -Shapps.

Ferrari defending the Tories...shock!

Oh so it's a matter of degrees of impropriety lies and corruption that count.

How can this radio host possibly try to defend braverman and johnson. Both broke rules and both need to be punished.

It is when millions could do anything but party. We had to see our grandparents through their windows. The scarecrow in a suit has his round for lunch.

Nick Ferrari always back them up it's not a matter of how bad it is it's a meter of breaking the rules and covering it up and also this is just the stuff we find out about Christ only knows what they are really at🙄🤬🤡🤡

TheMaking of leaders who run the country into the ground is a dangerous path.espeacialy when the people suffer.

So Nick, your argument is, because the scandals have become so egregious and large in scale than the smaller ones dont matter anymore? They should though. They hold the highest office and should be held to highest standard. Gotta keep those boots clean tho eh, lest you pay an additional 3% tax

Yes. Yes it is. It's another part of one rule for them, one rule for us.

No, he's not right and neither are you. It reflects a deeper malaise and high handed corruption.

Short memories. Abit like the 100,000 elderly people dying alone in neglected care homes.

Nick making excuses for tories again. What a sad state politics is in in this country.

Ferrari is the most biased radio presenter on LBC. He is truly appalling in his support of this corrupt government and should be removed from his job. As for the mp who spoke, it is a wonder that he can find time to leave the HOC bars to comment on his corrupt colleagues!

Erm, yes. Yes it is. Having one law for yourself while expecting everyone else to abide by the standards they set is a scandal. Sorry if you can’t see that Nick

They booted Farage, they’ll boot this troll eventually too. Toxic. When is Nick gunna admit his calamitous misjudgement when it comes to Brexit? Until then, why on earth would you take any of his opinions as anything other than irrelevant.

The civil service are not paid to deal with ministers personal affairs. The Home Secretary should know this.

Simpering Nick Ferrari - sits there like butter wouldn’t melt…..

When people who weren't the prime minister were fined £10,000 for hosting parties, and the prime minister was the one putting this into law, it is.

Who said it was one Party Nick? I've heard it was several get-togethers and the Abba party is next..

Any breach of the Ministerial code or breaking of laws should require immediate resignation. DON'T TRIVIALISE MP'S BREAKING THE RULES! I'm sure you Tories would love to brush it under the carpet, but we're coming for you all! ✊️😡🖕

A person having another party when they are telling everyone else to stay at home is a political scandal. Prime ministers breaking the law = scandal

Tories Out and take Ferrari with you

It’s a scandal because Suella was the attorney general (chief lawyer of the govt) and should be setting an example not breaking the law (speeding), she then asks civil servants who are employed to work for the govt to help her on this personal matter. The question to the MP should be “have you ever broken the law and asked civil servants to fix it?” If not, why not?

It wasn't her private office though. She asked the Civil service that taxpayers fund to sort our her personal affairs.

Yes it is scandalous. Braverman took tax payer funded people away from their work for the country and deployed them to try and get preferential treatment in her personal life. The former Prime Minister, made laws, and had the police enforce them on the general population. While also breaking the law and having his police protection ignore his personal law breaking. These are scandalous.

I remember when journalism had a degree of respect from the public too.

We should expect our elected officials to follow the law, its also the fact that scandal like this just keep on happening with this awful government

It might not be a scandal but it's just wrong and they're doing it all the time. We should be morally outraged by the immorality of these horrors!

People abusing power in office and committing illegal offences of course shouldn't be scandal.

Tories: “we used to be really really corrupt, now we can only get away with regular corruption, what’s wrong with this country”

The presenter does not get it. It’s not how pathetic the politicians are it’s the fact they are trying to break the rules that everyone else has to follow. They are MPs not kings

Yes, using your position in government for private benefit is a scandel, hearing a MP complaining about shows how self entitled they are.

Yes it's a proper scandal and follow the corrupt Tories around

If she just asked if it was possible for a 1 on 1, why did the civil service report her?

No he's not right,can we all do a one on one

Apologist for corruption? This is Kremlin-level journalism.

A scandal is a scandal...

The proper scandal is MPs claiming their Speeding Fines as expenses which we pay for...or a broken set of earpods ( Angela Raynor) , claimed on expenses, which is public money.

Oh this instance is only the absolute tip of the Iceberg....🌼 Johnson, Raab and Hancock showed that....

yes it is, thousands died alone while they were having parties !!! why do they think they are above the law ?

A minister is for the people, or rather they are supposed to be for the people and not above the people. Certainly they should not be using our taxes to pay for their privileges. Oh and yes those who created the other scandals should be dealt with as well.

Nick is well aware that Boris losing his job was because he was the only PM ever to lose his job by "abandon ship" There was no official function of government to oust him, the only reason he resigned (and I cannot stress this enough) is because he RAN OUT of tory mps (in a huge majority) who were even willing to sit in his cabinet.