I really agree with your comments on some of the Rise monsters being lower than they deserve, I really liked Rise's cast and personally prefer them over World's monsters. If any of them returned in Wilds I can see that actually boosting their popularity.
@@whiteninji352 true that. You could only vote 1, a lot of people like Beotodus but it's very few people's favorite. (Still doesn't explain Jyura and Cepha)
Most piscine wyverns were meme voted. Beotodus on the other end is not bad enough to be meme voted and not good enough to be people's favorite monster. It actually makes sense
Special shout-out from me to whoever made Teostra’s theme music in Rise. That iteration is SO MUCH more unique and has so much characterization for the big flame kitty. It’s awesome
Not my personal favourite, definitely deserved though, fight was baller in Iceborne even if I’m not the biggest fan of how the dps check was implemented.
Vespoid Queen is probably because the idea of a giant wasp monster is really cool but the tech wasn't there to make it good in 2nd gen, people want to see it get another chance!
Vespoid Queen and King Shakala feel more like easter eggs than actual monsters from what I’ve heard about them. If V.Queen was to comeback in Wilds then they could make a really great monster out of her, just gotta make the design more than just a larger Vespoid.
@@lander6443 They kinda are actually, both of them were these unofficial special versions of vespoid and Shakalaka in Dos I think before they got turned into real bosses
I think the reason Beotodus was probably so low was because it had the misfortune of being one of only two monsters not present in the guiding lands (the other being Jyuratodus) with the reason being they probably did not want to design a whole are just for these two. Since it was not in the guiding land it pretty much meant that it had zero presence in the endgame therefore was probably quickly forgotten which is a shame because I absolutely love Beotodus. This is my theory anayway
I think Narg is as high as it is is mainly because FU is the game that was a intro to a lot of the older English players in the community. FU’s impact probably did a lot for Nargacuga
So happy my boy Seregios gets (if barely) top 60! First Time I’ve seen the whole list, actually, and by gog did Rise’s Serpents get robbed. Like I get Ibushi, he was locked to the disliked rampages for a while till he got an event quest. But Narwa?? She deserves so much better. Her fight is absolutely amazing and Allmother’s is even better. The disrespect smh
I kinda wish we got more votes for this popularity contest. Just so we could spread the love and some of these undervoted great monsters would've gotten some love.
Great video. It was an honest shock to see Abyssal so high but I am happy for him. I can't wait to see that Steel Uragaan video that's going to be interesting.
Honestly sad for Beserk Tetsucabra being 11th worst as I think he’s the best subspecies “aesthetically”. Just something about the rich emerald hue with the hot fire face just makes me melt.
I think rathian is my favorite "Mainstay" monster in the series. She's not crazy, kinda a low-mid difficulty monster, almost always made weaker than her counterpart. But I still do really like her. I hope shes get a rise/sunbreak revisit like her hubby got. I think she should be kinda like the first noteworthy wall of the game. Like how Anja was in world for new players.
Ok you wanna make steel uragaan great, heres a few ideas, his gimmick is sulfuric gasses that he makes that cause the spoiled status. What if he was able to release the gases, boxing hunters in when he rolls at speed and was able to ignite it with a chin slam. Not instantanously like teo but more delayed so the explosion follows the trail laid by uragaan backwards from the slampoint. What could also help his popularity maybe is a biproduct of his use of sulphur what if he produces sulphur hexaflouride which deepens his roars (if your not aware it basically has the opposite effect of helium when inhaled) and any nearby hunters affected by his spoiled status could also be effected. Returning to a normal uragaan roar when exhausted
for the Oroshi Kirin leak for base World I think it would be cool if he returned in Wilds along with a new ice Rajang subspecies/variant that feeds on Oroshi horns to make a super saiyan blue effect Rajang
Great video as always! One quick note on the devs talking about the weapons. In Japanese they referred to them as "the current total of 14 weapons", so who knows, maybe we'll get some more? I'd love to maybe see the tonfas get reworked to fit into mainline monster hunter.
I like to put on your unscripted discussion videos in the background whilst doing something else, as i expect a lot of people do. But for the latter half of this video that covered the discussion part, that wasn't really possible, as you'd need to read the subtitles to get what your talking about. Just a thought for the next time you make one of these videos. Otherwise fun content as always
Personally, I like Barioth waaay more than Tigrex, Nargacuga, even like Zinogre at this point. I would’ve liked to have seen him higher. Barioth is one of my favorite monsters for sure, up there with Lagiacrus as best non-elder dragons
Rathalos and I have a very "complicated" relation. I hated him in World because the bastard would never stop flying. Then Rise came in and actually redeemed him by making him have a cool fight by not having him fly every two fucking seconds and never coming down. Then after jumping into 4U and playing through that game for the first time, it rekindled my now undying hatred for him because of how infuriating they made him in that game. So seeing him just miss being in the top 20 puts a smile on my face.
Something i had thought of regarding your "Making X monster more interesting" project is an idea for terra shogun ceanataur, expand on what made him different back in freedom unite/MH2. He was able to use his water whenever when base shogun could not (being restricted to cave celings to use his beam) and i thought about red daimyo to plum the gave him flanking tools, going from the "shield crab" to "shield-BREAKER crab" and i wondered "what could shogun do to invert while being a bigger threat?" And it hit me then. Make him less adept with his claws. Not because hes bad with them. Its because he no longer remotely REQUIRES them. Living in both vast mountain ranges and volcanos (more to the exterior then inside) the terra shogun has mastered his water beam now capable and preferring to hunt flying wyverns passing by, by means of sniping his prey out of the sky. His eyes are adapted for full 360 vision so he can aim even when backwards (given where the water exits its definitely needed for accuracy) he can even have short and rapid water shots for close anti-air akin to Flak guns. I can see this working amazingly in wilds with wide open maps your traveling and all of a sudden a water beam barely misses you by 1-2 inches and his hunt is less combat and more "Avoid getting hit" until you reach the terra shogun and then its over pretty quickly as the difficulty of terra shogun is he can see immensely far so its less "fight this monster" and turns the game into that metal gear solid boss fight against the elderly sniper (namely the one with the console clock gimmick where 2 weeks later and hes died of old age (specifying as i dont know if there are others) and the flak gun thing is also involved as if you try to get above and glide over the monster will use that instead of his precision shots. Hell give him limited access to poison let him lace some shots with poison so if he doesn't instantly kill the target the poison finishes them off, he could have a trait where he gathers toxic mushrooms to replenish his venom and after 5-8 venom shots after going for a 9th he will stop firing for a minute or 2 and thats a great opportunity to advance as he has to quickly return to his cave eat the toadstools and then retern to its perch and continue the fight. (The time feels fine at the moment as we dont know exactly how big the world of wilds will be and terra has a very large detection range so it might take 5-15 minutes to even reach him depending on how often he uses his venom and he would start with more casual use and as you approach he gets more and more reserved seeing what the hunter is doing until hes only using them on "sure" hits (you have to dodge after hes fired his shot and must be moving slowly or standing still to get him to actually use his poison)
Seeing Lagiacrus at third place over Gore was a validation for me, showing that you don't need the best story to be an absolute beast of a banger monster. He left a big impression when he came in in Tri's and 3U's fifth quest and scared the hell out of you. And as flawed and unoptimized underwater combat was, it made Lagiacrus one of the most menacing regular monsters up to that point. His size and speed underwater are just jaw dropping.
@@cr-volcanic Oh absolutely. But on the other side, if he was implemented well into World, like they planned to, and gotten the 5th Gen treatment, he would have most likely taken quite a few votes from Ivory and Abyssal as well. And could still have kept up with Gore.
Something im convinced of regarding the rankings is bazelgeuse's placement being 52nd. im inclined to believe there was a tie between 51st and 52nd and instead of both being 51st, they just went for the joke. Also on my favorites* (i have three*) i break it ito two categories favorite Silly monster and favorite Cool Monsters (more favor falls on one but its a package deal) the silly one is Quropeco due to being harmless* (outside of the chance of THAT Happening in high/G-rank) but thats the point, guy cant defend himself so he calls something else to deal with you and runs off. And the cool ones are the two seltas pairs (more aimed at the green ones due to having never fought the subspecies but i am aware of what the desert queen does and i cant help feeling bad for the male, guy gets deemed expendable and turned into a ballistic missle by his wife) i do prefer the desert pairs colors and the design of the male, two horns are better then one in cool factor to me. But the green variety would get the vote on what ive faced in game (now that im thinking about it both monsters to some degree are pair monsters, qurupeco calls for help and seltas queen will always have a seltas with her when the hunt begins)
Okay, but keep in mind, they had a new model for Lagiacrus when they did the original World trailer, it was the skeletal motions across and through certain terrain that caused them to walk back the Leviathans. If I recall correctly, it did a lot of clipping into and through things in the Ancient Forest. So they wouldn't need to do much to touch it up for a still.
Vespoid Queen pisses me off so much it’s not even funny. Like who in their right mind went "Yeah this funny wasp that was in one game ever, including spinoffs is my favourite" completely insane, whatever drugs are being done, I want some.
I’d say the Grappling hook trend had to have been because of Just Cause or maybe even like Titanfall too I usually think its those games that really did it well
22:32 31:08 Tbf i'm more angry toward the literral sheeps that voted the mecha rather than the actual creature. There are only 2 way, you vote a monster : Either you don't care and spontaneously vote your favorite monster Or you vote a monster that you like, but you think a litttle to give it the most chance of getting an high place But how the heck people would vote the neset with these 2 reasons ? People seriously prefer the mecha over the mantis ?????
Tbf without Neset Ahtal-Ka wouldn't at all be as popular as it is. But it is a stupid decision to put it. If I recall the only reason they did was because Neset is a different monster in the game code, but even then that's inconsistent as hell
@@reallynotsogoldenisopod That is one of the reason why i think Athal-Ka is overrated It's literally the Tony Stark quote case "If you're nothing without the suit, you shouldn't have it".
about the logo and us thinking it would be a count down, i'd say they filled in only the great sword on purpose haha I think the MH team was trolling the community with that
Steel urugaan could be improved by making him a flint steel? Idk. Make him become molten. Explode. Ohh and sharpen by rolling. Make him cut through the ground. Sawblade of fire!
people who cry about alatreon's elemental damage check are the same type to cry about vaal hazak's DoT effect. either read what the game tells you or git gud related: surprised to see VH as high as he was, given that I voted for the man, but he really didnt deserve to beat out magnamalo or rajang, i think thats a massive upset
iceborne is also zonogre's best music, by far, all versions are good but man that theme is awesome. the original conception for his theme is a funny story: they actually feared he wouldn't stand out enough so they took a game with a very strong older Japanese aesthetic and gave the flagship an electric guitar theme to stand out. his hh is even an electric guitar too. it was a great theme originally but i find that Iceborne's composition of his theme mixes that electric guitar with the very distinct Japanese instrumentation, that he was meant oppose, for a great harmony. man, if he is in that map we saw. um those lightning strikes will instantly charge him, yeah? that will be terrifying. well nergi's gameplay had to be good, if all 4 flagships following him in his generation tried their own take on his trick and most of us didn't get sick of it. well the difference is that with nergi the spikes are there for a reason where as with Frontier the wasn't a reason for most of them. also Frontier is just another team that wasn't confident enough to compete so they went parasite on what would have been their rival rather than fight and lose with dignity. man, if you gave narga Rise style bleed he'd be terrifying. i really hope that they keep bleed how it was in Sunbreak, it's way more fun that way. screw the poison if you move, i want the next hit to punish me the more i move if i'm hit before i cure it. fatalis should be lower, honestly. his lore is dumb, they went too far with it so the fight is the ultimate anticlimax and it was like that for 15 years. they'd have kept it that as shitty as it was, if it wasn't for the render debacle. you have to consider that he was shit for so long before he was cool and him being cool wasn't planned. props to them owning their mistakes and fixing him but still. going so far at to down vote the game is dumb but alatreon was poorly made, he kind of pissed on you for daring to use ig, when they went all try hard to make the weapons all matter for his gimmick. "oh what's that? you want to do areal for elemental damage? fuck you, his element weak spot is tiny and glued to the floor for most of the fight." he was a meme in try, "master of all the elements... except fuck water." and his ultimate attack only using ice originally when it was suppose to be a mix of all of them. also smaller/similar fatalis issue of fixed late. first fight is fine but, for many of us, safi is just a pinata so no. yes give kut ku more to set him apart as not just aknosom from 15 ish years ago with less. poor odogaron, the deviljho are discussing who gets the chew toy. espenas is the least creative flagship by far, the rest of them brought more to the table than him. really shows the gap in talent. as a monster he's fine but not as a flagship. yes, World base rajang was better, while Rise furious rajang was better. izuchi is best pappa raptor, he actually evolves hteir gimmick for once. yes maccao is better than jaggi. let monoblos fly, dig, and combo them. that's how you fix that. vespoid queen is weird, this is true. why was it that high? over the seltas quartet? why? qurupeco has to return, especially for the chaos his subspecies would unleash in master rank with the newer invaders. Wilds may add a new invader too. plesioth is another one of those that isn't finished, give him credit though the devs cared more about fixing him than fatalis over the years lol. poor gigginox, at least he's top 100. he's the second attempt at khezu failed fear factor and the forgotten member of his skeletal quartet. he just wants his favorite to not be lonely. he hopes his boy gets layed more lol. oroshi, i'm happy about him in top 100 but malfestio just missing it is sad. you guys voted for the wrong queen. azure over gold? why? he changes almost nothing. duramboros is one of the biggest victims of 5th gen. he's the only brute to not show up. acidic was awesome, more fun and the idea of the more longsword like movements was fun. zorah was them failing at physic that Insomniac got to work on a PS2, before MH1 even realeased, enough said. rakna, yeah she's too low. again she evvolves the small monster leader thing. coral pukei is criminally low, shogun and seltas too. shrouded nerscilla... sounds like people need to be sent to dofamingo's bird cage. come on, she spiderman swings on the sky box. green narga and rusted kushala are pointless, since 5th gen gave their tricks to the base monster. tidal najarala is criminally low. beleful is dumb, "what if gigginox was more like khezu?" bish please, you put him too low. pyre was great, probably the best Sunbreak "but fire" subspecies. tiger stripe and volvidon are a lower than they deserve. the disrespect to the bird with the most terrifying monsters on speed dial. aurora somnocanth was a necessary tech demo so they can let monsters aim for ig user mid attack. gives them reason to be less cowardly with ig's areal damage. wrong martyr to the cause though. no, it's a tie, look at the numbers. they have to bring them both back for redemption.
I think capcom is trying to make lagi work in wilds. If they don’t add him to wilds then I think that the community would riot My question is how did fatalis get beaten by narga, and white fatalis by mizu. Also in what world has ephedrine beat like 50 monsters, im not ok with this. And I also think it is funny how both gravioses got back to back voting
@@TheGreatCraigWyvern but why the word purgatory? I'm not well versed in religion, what i know about purgatory is that it's the place where people who sinned but aren't evil get prepared for heaven, but i don't know the metaphorical meaning of the word. I've also noticed Tea Common Shark calling Frontier a "Gulag"
@@athos9293It’s basically like a very long waiting area that you don’t know when you’ll be let out of. That’s the way the term is used in this context anyway
I hope we get rid of the clutch claw, that thing is just bad, destroyed the whole combat for me in Iceborne. I find it funny how Sunbreak gets the claim that it is arcadie yet in Iceborne we have how many claggers per fight.
Yeah, the slinger is fun, the claw is just bad why because the sligner is optimal the claw is not if u want to do hunts in less than 30 min @@bunnyheart9578
Narga lacking in Rise? I have to strongly disagree there. His IB iteration is the most disappointed I've ever been hunting a Nargacuga. Too much side hopping and too sluggish for what the monster is
I can see that. He's a tad more nimble in Rise but man, I feel like Nargacuga has not evolved nearly as much as he could, and taking bleed away did not help. I just feel like he has needed an overhaul for a while and in Rise I was so used to him that I could swat him too easy.
Nah alatreon to me is just what makes mmo rpgs to repugnant to me, because hes not a fight against a monster its a stat sheet checker and thats lame and boring. Honestly i wouldn't find him so absolutely disgusting if he wasn't a gatekeeper for the final content of world. He's not optional and he 100% should be
@@plus-delta4477 except fatalis is easier than altreon. If you wanted to (like i did oh so long ago when he released and had already beat him twice) you can beat him with just the starting gear. Again. Altreon isn't a boss fight nor an actual monster. But a stat sheet checker. To see if you leveled up your armor, you augmented all you could, grinded that 1 annoying monster and that one great jagras for armor and jewels for days for that 1 slot filled with little to no benefit, along with some rng and dps checks altreon truely is more like a wow boss than a monster and by god does he make you feel it
Man still can get why lagi is so high, hes barely in any game, his moveset is mediocre and I swear the majority of his fanbase never hunted him. You cant just like khezus moveset on land and a little buffed ludroth for underwater.
