I’m half indigenous and half mestizo. There is a huge difference between the way my lighter skinned family is treated vs the way my indigenous side is treated.
The difference is America at least acknowledges it. And the people who are Black at least are vocal at dispelling racism. In latin American, many Black people are not self identifying, so they never really get a chance of being vocal against racism. That's why they continue to be on the bottom, because of the lack of action of self identifying as Black or Afro Latino/a.
@BEEN BRACKIN i don't see the problem being rejection, i think it's because they don't teach treatment to hair with textures, curls, and coils. Telling me you won't do my hair is doing me a favor.i rather go to someone that knows how to do my hair not bluffs and ruins my crown
As a Marine I've been to a lot of different countries....you can find hate for black skin all over the world. Maybe I missed something but I'm still trying to figure out where all the hate for us came from.
Anti-blackness originated in the Talmud created by Rabbis. It's called "The Curse Of Ham". The Jewish merchants of Europe used this "Ham curse" to justify the lucrative transatlantic slave trade then Jim Crow and apartheid. White-Jews taught the idea that black skin is a curse to other races.
@@johnnyflores5954 but it’s in places where there was no European colonialism as well even in places that didn’t make contact with Europeans til The 20th century
I'm 🇭🇹 and we are black, we identify as BLACK. No Haitian person is running around calling themselves Latino. Considering how hard Hatians fought for their independence being the first BLACK ( not Latino) nation to be independent then to turn around and be called Latino. Sounds like some type of erasure. Hatians are BLACK not LATINOS.
Clarah Valme Extremely proud to hear you state this, Haiti has always served as a great inspiration to African Americans and many other right minded black ppl across the globe. Black First Sister!!
In Brazil i am what we call "Parda" which means mixed but not just white and black but with heritage thatsometimes we can't even explain because we lost so much of it's influence due to racism, colorism, xenophobia and etc, my great-grandmother was indigenous but so little was passed down to us and it is so sad both my grandfathers were black born and raised in Brazil but i don't know much about them, people in my country hardly talk about racism but it is very much alive and it is a huge problem people refuse to deal with as a result if you are black or pardo (or just anything other then white or fair skinned) you are deemed less important, not even relevant enough to be acknowledged.
Golden Voice I was dating a Dominican guy who was very light skin and had a brother who was darker. His mom would say about my bf “he’s my favorite, he’s so white” and she would call her other son “brother darkness” 😲😲😲😲 She would say other things too, random comments about color. I felt so bad for his brother It was very uncomfortable and I rarely visited him at his home.
@@src3360 I'm a Dark/Brown Black American but I was lucky I knew who I was at a very young age so the overt racism from both sides didn't affect me ( Getting ready to retire now from a long and successful career) however this bigotry hasn't gone away and I find that very sad.
Can you please explain why there are no racial riots in Latin America as there are in the USA? I mean, if Afro Latinos were being mistreated as they are in the USA, then one would expect the same outrage. But such intense outrage simply does not exist among Afro Latinos. Also, there is absolutely no barrier that prevents any Afro Latino from being 100% Latino. because afro Latinos share enough of Latino Culture to qualify as Latinos and therefore have always been considered as such.
@@quwandathornton most Black Americans are mixed and are still black. Your race also has to do with societal treatment based on societal categorization based on first impression. She’s black.
" If you do not understand the system of White Supremacy, what it is, and how it works. Everything else you understand will only confuse you. - Neely Fuller Jr.
White Supremacy is not the only reason why people are nasty. Most of the nastiness I have encountered in life has been from people who are not white supremacists. It has been mainly from black supremacists and belligerently-inclined Puerto Ricans who don't give a rat's fat ass whether I am from their same island or not. My uncle was killed for fourteen dollars by NYC blacks, not white supremacists. I had all my property stolen from my house by Puerto Ricans, not white supremacists. In fact, in comparison to Puerto Ricans and blacks, I can honestly say that Anglo Americans have been much less of a problem in my case.
I hate that this video was made by a US citizen . If it had been made in Mexico, they would have shared how Mexico its transforming itself to honor and represent the ingenious communities. Also the word ' Latin ' might mean something in the US, but not to Spanish speaking part of America.
@@matthewmann8969 Mexico is not a racist country it’s a classes nation. You can the whites person and if you poor you gonna get discriminated. If Mexico was unfair towards natives we wouldn’t have a native president. We wouldn’t work hard to keep the language and traditions alive and Mexicos entire identity wouldn’t be concentrated in the Native American peoples. Unlike the USA which is none existent and it seems that native are the only ones fighting to keep their traditions alive while the rest of the country doest care.
I'm afro Brazilian and born and raised was adopted to America and the hate here is real no one would think I'm Brazilian because I'm not white looking I'm glad this is coming to the surface
I live in Brazil. There is absolutely no such thing as AFRO Brazilian. That's a pure Anglo saxon term. People in Brazil are just Brazilian! Afro Latino, Euro Latino, Mestizo Latino... pure made up Anglo saxon non sense
I met this guy who I really don’t talk to anymore who insisted on constantly telling me that he is “Puerto Rican, but a white puerto Rican”. Like every time I was around him, he would always bring it up. I never asked him anything about his ethnicity…but he would just feel compelled to always remind me. So I’m just sitting there like “😐 okayyyy??? Does that make you better or something??”…asking myself why he keeps insisting on explaining his racial identity every time I’m around. Like bruh…I heard you the first 3 times…and I still DONT CARE. I think it’s really weird how some Latinos will go out of their way to tell you they are everything but African…Be darker than Taye Diggs, but be out here talking about “I’m Spanish, Taino, Portuguese, European, Native American, extraterrestrial, blah blah blah…but will never claim African ancestry. Thank god for social media because a lot of that bullshit is being exposed and many of them have to face it because everyone is privy to it. The self hate in Latin communities is REAL and shameful. I think it’s kinda funny because the same way they discriminate against black people who stand in their blackness is the same way white people discriminate against them.
its out of insecurity meanwhile black and indigenous people created all of the culture all that rhythm and color in latin America comes from them yet these people be whitewashing everything. lmao
"outside of Nigeria, Brazil is the location with the highest percentage of people of African descent" ???? i think Tanya Hernandez meant highest POPULATION, not highest percentage... cause if she really meant percentage, well I'm pretty sure all 54 African countries have higher percentages of Africans than Brazil. and when she says "we had many more people of African ancestry", who is "we"? and "more" than what? confusing
Yap, she got it so wrong. But most of the african descendents in Brazil are mixed race, aka they also have European and even Southern native American ancestry. So, it's kinda confusing, in many ways. There is even people already mixed with Arabs,.Indians and Japanese, because Brazil has really a very diversified population.
By we she meant the Caribbean and Latin American.Only 4% of slaves that left Africa went to the US(which at that time only consisted of the 13 colonies)
she is right I think she meant in Latin America lol I heard from my Brazilian friends (also there are statistics) that there's a big percentage of black people in Brazil, the thing is they also have white people but the high population of black people is there
Why do you care so much if they want to be Latino, Dominican, Puerto Rican. Etc. If they don't want to be black , then why try to force it. They are all Mixed. Also maybe yal will learned N and S America was all Spanish Empire. Not British . SPANISH AND PORTUGUESE accounted for over 90%. Not US.
Hahahaha Jlo: Camilla cabello, and Sofia vergara are not white, their Mestizo’s, mixed indigenous and European descent. White Latinos would be someone like, Anya Taylor-Joy and Sara Paxton.
Camilla cabello, white who you kidding, does she look anything like, Jennifer Lawrence: Emma Stone, Sydney Sweeney, Amanda Sayfried, margot, or Katie McGrath.
Even in Africa people are bleaching their skin. We have every right to call out the unwarranted hate and disrespect we receive but we have to love and respect ourselves/each other first. Ados fba and similar movements are toxic. Diaspora wars won't get us anywhere.
ADOS centers the Black American ethnicity and calls for specificity. Folks who label it “toxic” tend to view Black Americans as political mules, a resource to expand redress to unaffected groups, and maintain a domestic stigma against Black Americans for their own gain. The Diaspora enjoyed decades of resource mining and replacement, that time is over.
Most Latinos reject the description "latinx". In fact Spain and Argentina banned the word due to it violating the rules of the language. Spanish is a gendered language like German, French, and Italian. LatinX comes across as a progressive anglo white label.
True no such thing as Latinx or these invented terms. Be proud of your ancestors whether they from Spain Portugal Italy Ireland Canary Islands Africa Indigenous. They're descendants are Latino aka Puerto Rican Cuba Mexico etc
Ironic you mention “white latino” racism against afro-latinos yet you leave out Belize’s discrimination against the Maya peoples. So it’s only racist when “white latinos” discriminate but when black belizeans do it it’s not even worth mentioning, right?
It *IS* always _bad_ when the Amerindios/Mestizo and/or Afro-Latinos-as are racist with the criollos-as/castizos-as (btw, *NONE of these terms are in actual use today* ). That's perfectly acceptable. Nobody cares. Because I am _suuure it neeeeever happens._ You did *_NOT_* know that?! 🙃
For starters, there was barely any talk about Indigenous or anti-indigenous within the community. There are very dark indigenous too and with distinct features not just “Afro-Latinos”. Also, the creating of all these new terms like “Afro-Latinos” create a divide within, not the countries or nations nor race, but within the culture that is so diverse already. No need to create more divide or par-tide between all people within the community. There’s no one look or type of Latino. It’s also an ethnicity not a race and that’s the difference and being informed/educated on the terminology. Yes we do need more representation of all different looking types of Latinos in the media but hats all types not just certain ones more than others. Con mucho amor!
I remember one time I was flirting with this girl from the DR at her moms restaurant, and she was flirting back it was cool. Then somebody said “y’all look like your about to make a baby” or something, and her little pre-teen brother said “for the the baby to be black like that tire?”. Obviously because Im a bit darker than her. They’re trained young to hate dark skin and want to lighten the bloodline. It’s sick. I still hit tho. 🙃
I once entered an office full of Anglo Americans with my Puerto Rican co-worker and all the Anglo Americans immediately began asking him why he was several shades darker than me. "What the hell happened?"" They asked.
You apparently don't watch the Spanish-language Networks (telemundo, etc). If you did, it would be impossible not to notice that virtually ALL of the actors and actresses, news reporters, and people in the commercials project eurocentric appearances and images. One could count on (no more than) two hands, the number of Afro-Latinos shown in any of these categories, after all these years. Is this just a coincidence?
@@DavidRamirez-ue8gv How about these for starters: Azteca America, Bandamax , Cine Mexicano, Centroamerica, EstrellaTV, Univision? Is this some f'ing test? For your sarcastic-assed information, I have studied Spanish for most of my adult life and speak the langauge (admittedly with some difficulty). Furthermore, I spend at least 1 - 2 hours every day of the week practicing it and use the networks to enhance my ability to understand the language as spoken in practical situations. So the next time you try sarcasm, you should have a clue about the validity of your sarcasm. How many Spanish-language many networks can you name? The tone of your message sounds like you're one of those who claims to be "Spanish" when your ancestry is clearly indigenous and African because you so badly want to be identified as white.
I am Black, Black, Black. Did I mention that I am Black. Yes, I was born in Cuba. But , let me say it again. I am black. Also very proud to be black. Just in case you need to see me. I am Black. And I will say it again. I Am Black! Thanks
@Beatrixx. Cé I'm black n Spanish n speak full Spanish I'm tired of racist Latin people always talking shit bout dark-skinned people stop hating so fucking hard,I bet you luvv rap music doe huh
@@copeyano718Latinidad is a legitimate Spanish word but Latinx is gringo shit that breaks basic Spanish grammar rules and is very widely hated by the people it was supposed to represent.
Race is viewed differently in Latin America than the United States because it wasn’t just black and whites but white, mixed, brown, and black. ethnic identity is very important to us which this video is ignoring the ethnic barrier between us because I noticed Latinos don’t like being connected to the other countries. Probably due to the history and blood spilled for their ethnic identity is very strong and sometimes stronger than race. An example, would be when you confuse each other from another country and they will very annoyed. Afro Latinos also do this with the black community of the USA. Also, this video ignored the enslavement and genocide of Indigenous people in Latin America. 90% of natives died from disease and many more were enslaved hence some areas don’t have high black populations like other areas because the native population was the enslaved work force in that area. For example the Andean regions and the Amazon. Enslavement of natives even happened until the 20th century hence this belief of black people being slaves isn’t unique to them, but in the United States black culture that is a very strong part of their identity. Latin America is very complicated because the biggest issue isn’t racism but just corruption and poverty. It’s hard to say a particular race is dominating when you see many of that racial group in the slums. To say lighter skin people have it easier has some truth, but it’s not like their living first world lives.
@@radrook7584 In Latin America depending on the country because the institutions don’t oppress minorities like in the USA because a lot of the time the governments have fallen apart and been replaced with other governments that also been ineffective. Therefore, if a Latin American country had try to implement Jim Crow laws then it wouldn’t have work because the governments also doesn’t work. The society however will vary because some countries societies will have more racism than others but if you ever notice it’s more often in the urban areas than suburban. This is because urban areas is where rich White people live and the look down on everyone that aren’t white or rich. Also, these countries are very mixed while in America they followed the one drop rule and the attitude of intermixing wasn’t good so culture didn’t mesh together cause of segregation. This one is probably the most important one is that everyone is poor, so to say a certain race is privileged is weird especially when everyone is living in shitty situations. Hence, class is more important to them because everyone is desperate for money, so if you Black and have money then they love you
@@brotherjay4614 The reason why Jim Crow was never attempted in Latin America was because Latin Americans had a completely different view of slavery than the Anglo Americans did To the Latinos, slavery was merely a misfortune that could befall anyone. In contrast, Anglo Americans considered it a curse on the black race uttered against Noah's Son Ham. Latin Americans viewed slaves as human beings. Anglo Americans viewed them as mere property. Latin Americans had laws protecting slaves from being separated from their close family members. Slaves were also allowed to work to earn their freedom. Anglo Americans had no such provisions. Of course, to Anglo Americans, Jim Crow was merely an extension of a previous belief of black innate inferiority. In contrast, Latin Americans could not institute Jim Crow because they viewed blacks as fellow human beings which needed to be treated as such. .
You made some valid points though this subject is many layered. Who said Zoe Saldana Isn't considered Latina. She's always been that Dominicana flaquita. And I for one, feel there's a push to have us embrace ONLY African American culture.
@@radrook7584 blacks were viewed differently In Latin America because the Spanish were not as tribalistic like Britain. British were so tribal that the island next them, the Irish, were seen as second class and inferior. While the Iberian peninsula (Spain and Portugal) had more relations with African and Arabs. Some Africans were in the Iberian peninsula with wealth and even joined the conquistadors conquering indigenous. However, the Spanish were still racist like everyone else in the world at the time and still placed African descendants at the bottom of the hierarchy of the colonies. Though, the racial caste allowed lighter skin indigenous and blacks to be respected more. Also, with the indigenous being included into the Spanish society unlike British tactics of removal and genocide, the Spanish would use blacks to be in charge over natives in many situations like soldiers. Like I said before Latin America is a mess where you could find various points where different groups become the most abused and switch to another.
I just identify as Puerto Rican but I was foolish to think that all people knew that PUERTO Ricans are mixed with African. European, and Native ancestry. I never say I'm all 3 and that was based on the assumption that people should know.
But not all PR are all 3 and honestly most PR have hardly any to no Native ancestry because the natives of the island died off very quickly at the start of colonialism. Most PR are different degrees of African and European mix, with a lot being just black and a lot being just white.
@@JD-ny3vz Well, it sounds like you took a dna survey of all PR's?...My PR wife will disagree with you, she's at least 36% NA, her family is mostly white skin or light brown. Don't believe all the UTube crap you read. ✌
Stevo Devo and a lot of Puerto Ricans don’t know that, some say there’s no such thing as dark puerto rican’s, im not even dark, im light skin. an my family is African/ Taino
And some Puerto Ricans are straight up of Black African descent (or close to it). I have met these people, and they still try to deny their African heritage. This denial is not limited to Puerto Rico; it is prevalent all of the Latin countries and territories that have a population of African descendants. It is a mental pathology brought on by centuries-long subjugation by the European colonizers.
@@brandonmoncada7610 They already mangled the word Latino by placing an X. One little step leads to the next and before you know it, it's all over. Try to do the same to them and they literally go berserk.
This discussion kills me ... the influence of american culture to create a black white dichotomy in latin america is really unrealistic in latin spaces especially when you leave out the native american component which is equally as ignored and when you realize a majority of latin americans are mixed race despite apperances making our problem a colorism issue and class problem more than just afro latinoes (who are also usually mixed with native and european) and the rest....you see i cant say black and white the way inwould in america where the average white person is just that
You are ignoring the biggest issue in Latin Racism by not being inclusive. In current days, native indigenous people are stil the most marginalized, and racial targeted. These people don't have access to basic services, opportunities or education. Being born an indigenuos person means you will have a life that it's 3X times more difficult.
@Sabrina BillJoe "black latinx is below indigenous" Jajajaja absolutely not, please, there were multiple indigenous genocides just a few decades ago, don't talk about a region you clearly know nothing about I'm latin american
@Sabrina BillJoe Sabrina, I think you are not fully aware of the latin american indigenous people. If you are, your comment was very insensitive. We are not at a race to see who has it worse...but we're talking about people who don't have the minimum things to live a dignified life.
@Sabrina BillJoe who pretends that? Can you explain to me? We acknowledge black colombians (I talk about my country and culture because not every single latin country share the same culture) even though there are few racist issues, we are aware of our diverse and pluricultural, and pluriracial roots
@Sabrina BillJoe and, btw, Latinoamérica is a very poor continent...but being poor here and not having enough to live with dignity (again, at least in colombia) is not based on your skin colour. We have white, indigenous and black poor people...yet again, I don't think you know a single thing about indigenous peoples in Latinoamérica
You ain't have to say what we all can see. The problem happens when there are questions and some sliding by when you can happening. I think you would if you could, as that's exactly what most of them do. If they can distance themselves from blackness they always will...
Latino means one who speaks Latin (the Romans), or a Latin derived language, like Spanish, Portuguese, Italian, French. Interesting that this person links Hispanic to Spain but leaves out linking Latino to Europe...
@@user-zd5hy6bn7uIn Latin America we are mostly mixed, even those who have more indigenous, black or Caucasian ancestry is to have something in common and build a national identity and not a racial one like in the US.
I'm a white boricua and in my 40 years I've never ever witnessed the bs you posted. It's always the darker members of my family talking about racism and discrimination that I've never seen in my life. Maybe some people are just sensitive, and that needs to be talked about. I've been called "hincho" by my brown and black family members, and you don't see me crying like a baby princess.
Hate is a byproduct of just how weak someone is internally. You cant get me to be so conditioned to be so disenchanted with someone being lighter or darker than me, that i'll react positively or negatively towards them. This is because i deem myself as a true leader and one who cuts against the grain.
I never ever heard the term pelo in reference to african hair. I hear it for the very first with the so called latino from the Caribbean three Spanish speaking ONES when i heard it from them the first it puzzling to me. Since on main land latin America we know our hair as crespo which is much better than referring to black hair as pelo malo to me all pelo are good pelo. Just remember all hair came from THE ALMIGHTY SPIRIT GOOD
What about here in America, Beyonce is light-skinned and most African American actors male /female are light with long curly hair and in reality, they mostly don't look like that?
There’s too much to unpack here on this sensitive issue with historical, global policies clearly pulling the strings and influencing people’s behaviour. The only way to create a truly diverse, welcoming society we need to come out and discuss these issues. I don’t see Indigenous Latinos come out in the way African descent Latinos do. As a matter of identity- I don’t see those Latinos who call themselves Afro Latinos identify themselves through their indigenous ancestry as well when they have both ancestries. I suppose it’s influenced by the African American legacy. In any case I love both of my ancestries.
In Latin America, as well as the rest of the world, it is OK to identify with how you look. They do not honor your Anglo American, racist slave-master-derived, one-drop rule.
They don't have to? Why generalize an entire group of people? I'm Black and I don't care about how these people feel about my Blackness. Y'all Black people are too pressed about these people. Stop begging to be loved and love yourself.
It’s nauseating and tiring… we don’t identify by race what’s so difficult about understanding that? Yet Hispanics are the first to be accused of being self haters and in denial. GTFOH. Good to hear a person with good perspective on the matter
@YUCAYEQUE "mejorar la raza" does very much still exist so I don't see how that constitutes, "not identifying by race." Just look at how many Mexicans complained that Nemore in Black Panther 2 was too "dark" to play the role in that movie, even though he wasn't that dark and looked more indigenous.
Very educational and useful information. I’m an educator who aspires to be more aware and inclusive about racial and ethnic groups and their history in the Americas. Thanks for this great content. We have much work to do as black folx to acknowledge and celebrate all our diversity.
Serious question regarding slavery. So if white people are to responsible for slavery wouldn't that mean it had to start in around 1441 most likely with Antao Goncalves.who was Portuguese ? The reason I ask is because the African King Masa Musa ( Born 1280 - Died 1337 ) had abour 12,000 slaves.
Egyptians also purchased foreigners as slaves too. About 5000 years ago... and the word for slave in Egyptian is similar to the word used in Europe sklavos/escravo... unfortunately slavery has been around since ever...
You have evidence it was chattel slavery or you just label it as slavery. How was it implemented? You left a lot of information. If you are trying to justify slavery, you may as well justify everything because if you go far enough in the past, there were no order and men would rape kill and subjugate others. Also, back in the days, when someone got imprisoned, they were considered slaves. Unlike today, we weren't wealthy enough to feed, clothe and provide shelter to prisoners. they had to produce to help what they took from society. Also, their children weren't automatically slaves because of their race.
Some of us were already here. Not all brown people were slaves. There were some indigenous brown Americans as well as carribeans. The truth shall come to the light
Lantindad to my knowledge is pride in being Latino. Latin x is a new term for those who feel left out from the looks of it. The mistake people have made us to think being Latino is a race. We’re a culture. The host is right she’s black but if she would deny being Latina that would be due to her life experience being negative on some level with that. Being Ecuadorian is your ethnicity and he country your from (I’m assuming you were born there or your parents are from there) in the US you’re looked at in group form before specifics or individually. People from north ,“central” , South America and the Caribbean are not the only ones affected by European colonialism. Everyone has pretty much. In the black community this is self evident in a variety of forms but sticking to the bad hair term how many black women do you see with their natural hair? I find it hypocritical to talk black pride when you don’t even realize you lack it. That’s not a reference to the host cause that may very well be her hair but there’s plenty of other women that fall into that category. As for the lady she’s interviewing she’s spot on with what she’s saying though it’s a different understanding from the US and those countries. I’m assuming the host is from here and that’s why she views it how she does. Also those of mixed “race” which is the majority of “Latinos” tend to not acknowledge all of their backgrounds saying I’m black or I’m white when in fact they are both or native, Asian etc etc. This is particularly true in the US. In Ecuador and other Spanish colonized countries I think moat people just look at them selves as Ecuadorian, Colombian, Dominican, Cuban, Honduran etc and not as a race. That’s the big difference between the US and those places. Some will tell you I’m not black I’m Ecuadorian but that’s just a lack of knowledge so to speak.
Fernando Bravo I go for Ecuadorian because of the arbitrary criteria that people use to merge Latinx people. And particularly because it’s culture related. I’m too ethnically ambiguous for me to have a generalized experience as being white, black, Asian, native, etc. that’s precisely why I rather just say Ecuadorian. It doesn’t matter if I say mixed race because you’ll judge me on what you see
Bryan Guevara I hear you I would answer just like you have. But being born here I recognize being Latino. As far as race I would just answer latino even though it’s a culture kind of like when you hear someone say there Jewish. In truth race wise I’m mixed. Racially ambiguous pretty much means your mixed. I don’t prescribe to Latin x cause that term is mentally off.
Colonizers are not included but y’all the ones who are descendants of the colonizers and also Latino is just Spanish for Latin so how can u take their identities and not include them? Italy is Latin too.
It is a term that they gave in the United States to people from the south who speak Spanish, it is not a term that Spanish-speaking countries gave themselves.
the situation is different with indigenous people. cause afro Latinos are completely excluded as if they didn't exist. whereas for indigenous, they try to lump in indigenous things like culture and physical features like skin color, facial features ect. as part of a single "latin" culture that "came from spain" according to them. like how at the beginning of this video when you showed JLO as a example of a "white latina" because of her skin color and facial features, not noticing that any indigenous person can be the same skin complexion and have the same facial features as JLO. So they ignore the presence of black latinos, and with indigenous people, they try to culturally appropriate indigenous things. well I am here to tell you that europeans didnt bring light skin and straight hair and keen facial features to america, our native ancestors already had those physical traits.
True, those things were already in the Americas. Strange, But I have never heard any Latino saying otherwise. Also, in Latin America Jaylo is not viewed as white.Instead she might be viewed as Mestiza or Triguena and never used as an example of a white Latina. Actually, her facial features clearly indicate a non-European ancestry.
@@radrook7584 well I would say more she is indigenous passing cause she has been in demand to play Mexican roles in many movies like in Selena and the movie "my family" where she plays a Mexican mom. And us Mexicans usually look indigenous. If they were to make a film abt colonization and jlo was in it, she wouldn't quite fit into the colonizers white spaniard wife role. And she wouldn't fit into the black african slave role either. She would fit into a more Pocahontas, daughter of the tribal chief role.
@@radrook7584 Jlo has had at least 3 surgeries, on her nose, cheeks, and jawline. She's had her brows lifted as well. Most Latina winners of beauty pageants have had rhinoplasty surgery, as many stars of Latin cinema.
Thank you for this video. I'm showing this to my students who are primarily from Spanish Speaking Caribbean countries--mostly from DR. This will help unpack a juicy discussion.
As a Latina, I think it’s fine as long as you’re not telling them to forsake their culture, language, and make them choose a side. They should embrace their African Roots, and acknowledge the Colorism problems within the community, without hating their Latino culture. As long as that is respected I’m sure it will be a positive experience for them.
Sometimes it's not anti- blackness, it's more anti- black Afro-americans, where, say Dominican and Cuban and. Boricuas do not want to lose their cultural identity which is more than skin color. It's about ways of interacting with others
Here in Brazil we had a fascist and eugenist movimment supported by the government on the 30's (AIB - Ação Integralista Brasileira). Based on a eugenist pseudoscience, saying black and natives were from an inferior race and to save the country they need to make bigger the white population. That's why they asked for white european immigrants come to Brasil. On the world war 2, we had an immigration of retired nazis and other germans and Italians scaping from the war. On a diferent situation of that others immigrants. But much before that, in 1818, when Brasil was an empire, we received deserters from the south of USA, confederates. The brazilian's government gave lands and money to them, to they be stabilized here. That's because the brazilian's crowd was into masonry, like those deserters soldiers. Yeah, we have a huge native and black population, but as colony we were destroyed by racists governments.
I hate to be the "Acktually" guy, but this video is wrong. So, "LatinX", "Latino," or "Latina" is a term that refers to anyone whose "home language" (the language they speak at home with their parents) happens to be a "latinate" or "romance" language. That is, someone who speaks Spanish, Portuguese, Galician, Catalan, Occitan, French, Romanian, or Italian (these languages are collectively called "latinate" or "romance" languages, cause they come from Latin, hence "Latino" (mas.) or "Latina" (fem.) or "LatinX") is a Latin X. "Hispanic" means Spanish-speaking, "francophone" is french-speaking, and "lusophone" is portugese-speaking, etc . These are sub-groups within "Latino X." Meanwhile, there are other cultures, like 'Anglo-Celtic or "anglo" who speak English. Separate from culture is race. African ("black"), European ("white"), and Native American ("Red") are three racial phenotypes here in the western hemisphere/New World/Americas. Classically, in US English before the 1960s civil rights movements, we had special terms for mixed races. "Mestizo" was Red/White, "Mullatto" was black/white, and "Pardo" was black/red. If you go back and read old writings, like Mark Twain and H.P. Lovecraft, you will encounter these terms. During the civil rights era, a lot of these terms were sanitized from the language. Basically, imagine a cartesian field, or x-y axis. "Race" is the x-axis, and the ethnolinguistic group is the y-axis. On x, we have six types (White, black, red, mestizo, mulatto, and pardo) and on the y are two (anglo and Latino). So you can mix and match across x-y. Cameron Diaz and Alexis Blendl are White-Latina, whereas Dolly Parton is a White-Anglo. Beyonce is a black-anglo, and Christina La Negra is a Black-Latina. Bill Richardson (half white, half Navajo former governor of Arizona) is a Mestizo-Anglo, while Juan Gonzalez (half white (Spanish), half red (Zappatecas Indian)) is a Mestizo-Latino. This shit isn't difficult to understand.
That's not correct because if you call a Spaniard a Hispanic they will lose their mind they will tell you quick they are not Hispanic they are Spaniard they do not consider Hispanics Spaniards they may have Spaniard blood in them but they are not on the same level
I dislike the term Hispanic, it was invented in the '70s in the U.S. we know who we are, Hispanic just grouped many of us together. Latino is better imo. If you're from Spain, your Spanish!
"they may have Spaniard blood" who? the 1,2% of the population? argentinians, chileans or uruguanyans with spanish grand parents from the 50s inmigration? If they have indigenous or black phenotype, the looks, they have nothing spaniard in them. I can assure you. No more than a black american with 5% of european DNA. Is that clear?
So you speak from experience? Spain has over 40 million plus people. You are saying they all think the same? Even if they did nobody gives a damn. Stop worrying about Hispanics and worry about your people
@@YUCAYEQUE usais lo de "latinos" como raza cuando os interesa y os conviene para vuestra narrativa. Cuando hay un inmigrante mexicano o hondureño con cara de Evo Morales, entonces es "latino" para todos vosotros.
@@tonymontana9754 Many Latin Americans especially Puerto Ricans, Argentinians, Uruguayans, and Chileans have over 50 percent Spanish ancestry. I for example have 60 something percent Spanish ancestry and over 75 percent European ancestry overall. I don’t look mixed either so don’t even think about it.
Uh, hmm, so on this subject of 'racism' and 'classism', I have a really dumb question to ask; where does 'human race' and 'human being's fit into the dialogue especially when considering the cosmology of all matter (of fact)??? Or, is this just an insidiously contrived engineered game of sociopolitical constructs that is waged upon many by a few??? Please, a little help here; I'm just an ignorant man in need of some answers??? Help me out here...anyone??? Thanking you (all) in advance!
Just remember that the territory north of Mexico was also colonized. Then under your definition of latinos are sharing the fact of being colonized, you should paint in blue the hole American continent!
So gringos are going to tell us that we need to identify using their anglocentric system. Yes we are not homogeneous, yes there is racism in LA NO I won't identify as just one race because i am many and so are the majority of the population in LA (yes mostly from slavery and rape and then whitening but still we are mostly MIXED race), and I'm not going to adopt the one drop rule that grigos use. Why not choose to open the gringos eyes to explain that there are many races in LA and many many many mixedrace people, for Centuries now (I know in the states is still a novelty). Our languageS and culture and food and music join us together i don't see anything wrong as identifying as Costa Rican and Latin American, the only time people insist on knowing my race is when im in the states or talking to gringos and is so sickening!
It's true that some people in Latin America deny their non-European heritage, which is a shame. But isn't it also a shame that woke Latinos in the US choose to deny their European heritage and only identify with their African/Indigenous ancestry? There is so much beauty in being mixed-race, and everyone should embrace it.
Those governments should of create conditions for the African populations living in those countries for them to return to Africa, which is a continent that offers plenty of economic opportunities. Besides, Europeans don't actually need the Blacks anymore since the end of slavery, their presence is but a nuisance in Latin America nowadays, besides they don't wish to be part of those nation's cultural and political lives. I believe this would be the best solution to this problem.
Yeah, but in lots of countries in Africa there’s poverty problem and corruption/crimes. The only country I can think about that’s decent is Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, South Africa which most of them I mentioned are Berber/Arab states
Unfortunately, I don't see this changing because of the strong anti- blackness that exists in Latin America. I love Mexico, but even the Anti- Indigenous attitude that exists, surprises my when so many people are brown. Univision does little to represent the diversity of Latin America. I'm really surprised at how Anti-Black Puerto Rico, The Dominican Republic and Cuba can be when Africa is so well represented in the food and music.
When the elite newsrooms aren’t run by those who might have bought their acceptances to their favorite ivy leagues, then the root should feel obligated to hire more white faces to occupy the very few BIPOC spaces. You have everything and yet you want more. Tssk.. When you lose it all the things you stole I hope you’ll have the mental maturity to understand why.
1) This is an over simplification of many other long-term issues. 2) This is nothing new because Henry Gates already did an excellent episode on anti-blackness called “The Black Grandma in the Closet.” 4) You cannot simply group all Latino cultures and countries into one video, because they are certainly NOT the same and they do NOT share the same history. 5) You are CLEARLY ignoring many BLACK ancestry Latino artists who are super famous: Don Omar, Ozuna, Tego Calderón, Gloria, Megan Good, Zoe Saldana, Cardi B, Laz Alonso, Tessa Thompson, Rosario Dawson, among others. Due to the fact that Spanish colonizers created a cast system that permitted racial mixing and most Latinos are either mestizo or mulato, you don’t get to decide how much blackness it too little or too much, unlike the United States. They are very different stories, and this video seems like it is trying to impose one on the other.
You do have a point! The thing is that the content of this was to discuss how there are different realities for afrolatinos under the umbrella of latinidad. Also, all of the artist/actors you mentioned were either initially underground with urban/reggaeton which definitely received heavy backlash in its infancy or actors in the United States (not in the latin countries themselves). She talked about the magazine covers/ beauty pagents and the lack of representation there.
Karol G, for as much as I love her and appreciate her musical contributions is in fact benefitting off of the backs of years of innovation and struggle of the reggaeton and urban movement primarily spearheaded by the afrolatinos from Panama and Puerto Rico.
Anonymous Guy I obviously can’t claim or confirm that either is racist. Like I said it’s just a hunch. Anyway, I disagree though that just because Bad Bunny has an Afro doesn’t mean he can’t have anti black sentiment. I’ve met several dark skinned Dominicans that harbor anti blackness with the “pelo malo” or “mejorando la raza” mentality, etc Really depends on how you’re raised.
@@MsNG82 cause we convive with them daily and we have family that is black even if some of us are white looking or a shade of brown lighter. I never thought of j balvin as anti black. Idk why people are saying thay
