Breaking Down the Stick - Madcatz TE3

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Breaking Down the Stick Episode 6: Madcatz TE3
I dive deep into the Madcatz TE3 and reveal the inner-workings, point out some mod points, and offer my opinions on what you can and can't do to upgrade this fight stick.
This is the first video featuring any latency testing on these sticks! You can learn about the testing method from InputLag.science - a great resource for objectively testing latency in your fight stick. They also have a great bit of data you can see for various sticks as well!
Learn more about this method here:
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This video recorded on my iPhone because all my camera gear is packed and ready for my move back to the US from Japan. Emi and Dozer both make cameos in this video doing what they do best - sleeping.
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@JasenHicksFGC Год назад

It seems as though Madcatz realized $300 was a bit high for a mass produced stick that requires a passthrough for PS4 and XBOX compatibility. Is it worth it at $190 - I still think no.

@EX-Series Год назад

I just bought this TE3 Arcade Stick before I saw this review. I ordered one for around 189 USD from Walmart. And saw your video where you got blocked by (New) Mad Catz company. I was going to buy the Hori Alpha Arcade Stick but never again I will make this mistake if I have personally. Thanks, you helped me a lot but I figured it's too late.

@Crowlo17 Месяц назад

@@EX-Serieswhy not just return it?

@larsu-gx579 Год назад

The fact that a $300 stick needs weird loophole work-arounds to work on a console is BONKERS

@fgc-linux1650 Год назад

I was waiting for a review of this thing finally. Thank you Jasen, you just saved me $300.

@tyrellvick1195 Год назад

😂

@HumbleDude46995 Год назад

we need him to do reviews of the new Qanba Series

@stephenmiller5572 Год назад

It’s like they went backwards

@KetsubanSolo Год назад

@@stephenmiller5572more like the old MadCatz crew isn't around. They were purchased by a Chinese company.

@SpectreMK23 Год назад

There're actually $189@Walmart. Great deal!

@ThePhantomnaut Год назад

I wouldn’t be surprised if they do a firmware update for DualSense support but even then, a small select few who are willing to overspend on this will care enough. Heat death of the TE line from the looks of it. I don’t see them ever returning to making sticks after this.

@JasenHicksFGC Год назад

Agree with the FW update - seems silly to not have it out of the box. That being said, this still a hard pill to swallow from a corporation making thousands of these to sell.

@genuwine21 Год назад

These plug a controller in arcade sticks are never worth it unless they are sub $200 since Hori and Qanba have offerings that work on PS consoles officially licensed (Hori also has one for the Xbox). Custom is definitely the way to go if you are willing to spend $300 on an arcade stick. I wish they sold the case empty for a reasonable price with the ability to mount whatever PCB you want. I think the Chinese company that has access to factories could make decent money selling just the cases (with some minor modifications).

@johnlund3088 Год назад

Thanks Jasen for this very honest and informative review. It confirmed everything I was worried about. The way the marketed this as a tournament grade controller was just a facade from the truth which itself should be a redflag as to why you couldn't buy this stick

@MrSujano Год назад

😬😬😬😬😬😬😬

@MichalPuzder Год назад

this stick probably costs the same to produce as a mayflash stick , but priced as if it was competing with victrix , etokki, and fightstick cases makers

@s-z4893 Год назад

Great video - unbiased and honest breakdown

@JasenHicksFGC Год назад

I appreciate that!

@Halibut86 Год назад

Unbiased? He advertises his custom shop at the end.

@s-z4893 Год назад

@@Halibut86it’s self promotion; no different to MadCatz dishing out free gifts to people posting anything positive on Twitter. Nothing wrong with that, it’s business. I personally found it a useful breakdown, spending $300 on a stick that requires a controller to be plugged in for platform compatibility doesn’t sit well with me. If you think otherwise, that’s good for you.

@Mvc2Cyclops Год назад

Real sad what they have done to madcatz. Was slightly considering this to keep the collection going generation to generation. Makes me sad as the madcatz products have been there for as long as I've been following fgc. Still use my vs stick til this day. Great vid jasen and good to see your still around. And still loving the panzer fs3!

@HushMySweet1 Год назад

Great breakdown! This is such a strange stick for the price point.

@JasenHicksFGC Год назад

It really is!

@shadowseal22 Год назад

Between this, and the victrix box, there seems to be a weird industry war against screw buttons. In an age of custom enclosure options this stick is just hilarious.

@brianmarrero5147 Год назад

"We're really just putting lipstick on a pig" had me 💀

@haxsawjimthugin6753 Год назад

Bro why does this even exist? It's basically an overpriced shittier version of the MFF500. Someone is about to get fired....

@radiantansel202 Год назад

I'm naming myself "Don't buy the MadCatz TE3" in some arcade stick discords, and after this video... I can see myself not changing my name anytime soon. This thing is almost the same price as the Daija, but with 4 times less quality, this is just a laughable product MadCatz is no longer there, it's just a Chinese company trying to sell garbage products with the MadCatz logo slapped in

@bluasterisk Год назад

Wow I was surprised to see that there's a TE3, but considering how it turned out I'm really glad I still have my Chun li TE2

@jasonmartinez5116 Год назад

Same here because I thought Madcatz went out of business

@HumbleDude46995 Год назад

@@jasonmartinez5116 they came back WORSE!!!! I mean look at this Arcade Stick .. well beneath of what we expect from Madcatz

@JasenHicksFGC Год назад

It seems that one person was able to force a screw in button in place; though it looks to be held on by a thread or two. Be careful folks; vibrations may loosen them over time of playing!

@JasenHicksFGC Год назад

Upon further review; the nuts in this case were installed upside down and it looks like they were very much forced on. I stand by my previous thought, stick with snap in buttons if you want to change them.

@epicon6 Год назад

The hype around the TE2 was too high to begin with. And Mad Catz knew that odd hype would help sell this new stick even if it’s really bad. Honestly this looks like a badly designed $100 stick. I’m mostly horrified how impossible they made any modding of top plate and layouts.

@SpectreMK23 Год назад

All these fighting games are coming to xbox, that's stupid.Thanks for the review.

@deltapromasterlauj4848 Год назад

looks like garbage compared to my old $200 SF5 Madcatz TE2+

@HumbleDude46995 Год назад

we all thought it was an upgrade , sadly its not

@flinttk5417 Год назад

This is depressing. Was hoping that the TE3 would honor its predecessors. Great review! Thanks for your contribution! Your time, money and effort!

@JasenHicksFGC Год назад

Thanks for watching!

@emmettturner9452 Год назад

Predecessors had issues too… like the debounce diodes causing the entire stick to stop working.

@flinttk5417 Год назад

@emmettturner9452 im not sure which models were those. Only have TE, FS Pro, VS Silent and TE2+ (SFV Ryu and Black JP version). None of them have any problems.

@bludika Год назад

it's a spit in the face of the hard work that MarkMan has done to bring the TE1 and TE2 to the market, and even to this day, they main some of the most popular and beloved sticks people love to mod, but jesus this TE3, is just embarrassing as hell, it's so sad to see and i feel embarrassed for MCZ, because I really wanted them to do well when they came back, and developed a brand new stick that you can be proud to call it the TE3

@emmettturner9452 Год назад

@@flinttk5417 Mine is the TE2+ with Ryu. Got it from a thrift store and found that it bugs out when plugged in… which explains why it was donated to a thrift store (still wasn’t cheap!). It acts like certain directions are being held so you can’t even navigate the menus. Of course, this is only a problem with the stock control board. Researched the problem and found people were bypassing the debounce diodes to fix the issue… so it wasn’t just me.

@hellionlemon Год назад

I have the dragonslay, another rebrand of the gamesir/ego the pcb does look the same and its the exact same plexi and countersunk screws aswell as the top l3r3 and home buttons, but atleast the gamesir/dragonslay can be picked up for under 100. its like they took the "ego" and just stretched the top and bottom and slapped a hinge on it to rely on people remembering the te2

@johnlund3088 Год назад

One thing that could have been mentioned in the review is the fact that the lever is much further away then regular vewlix layouts which imo is about the most interesting thing about the stick.

@JasenHicksFGC Год назад

You're right! I didn't mention that. Honestly, I didn't even really think about it at the time of filming because I was just like ... "what is going on here" the entire thing. I should have done some scale shots to give you a good idea of how monstrous this thing is. Its like a pizza box size!

@Tengeki1 3 месяца назад

그것은 한국 배열입니다~

@bludika Год назад

given how the underside has those cut outs just to fit the sanwa buttons, can you install Gamerfinger snap-in buttons? i just cannot understand why they went with those weird slots on the underside, where even taking off the Sanwa buttons is impossible without the flat head, like wtf were they smoking? also, do you think a flat collar Korean lever can be mounted on those lever mounts? I see it has those weird cut outs too on the underside, never seen anything like that before, most common one's ive seen are usually an S plate which allows various types of lever's to be mounted easily

@KewlAlexYT Год назад

This is low key sad... i wanted a madcatz stick forever ago

@joshbell123 Год назад

Man sticks got to a weird place. Back when the obsidian first came out all sticks were great, now you have some over priced ones and a bunch of crap. Funny seeing mad catz return to what I remember them being before the fight stick days lol

@BronzeAgePepper Год назад

apparently Markman left which explains how they fell off so hard after two successful prior hardware generations

@HumbleDude46995 Год назад

$300 its OVERPRICED!!!

@ninetendopesaitama2107 Год назад

Get a hori alpha stick. Much better value. ☮️

@Chamomileable Год назад

What a hidden gem of a channel for YT to recommend me. There's a niche for everything. I remember this stick's announcement and I almost immediately was scratching my head over the shape. It's like they didn't consider humans would be using it. All the internals and technical specs just make me even more confused. There's no kind of special gimmicks or whatever, but I use a Mayflash F500 Elite myself. I think it gets overlooked for not being a Qanba or Hori or whatever, but it's such a rock solid stick. Near-universal compatibility, some fun bells and whistles, and Sanwa parts out of the box for less than $200 is a steal in my opinion.

@eyang7 Год назад

nah, i just ordered the mayflash f500 elite, hopefully the f500 elite is a good one for many years to come

@KetsubanSolo Год назад

Good call, the Mayflash sticks are honestly not bad for what they are (I got the F300 for my niece). Also that particular model can use Mayflash's Magic Pro to work on the PS5, so if you're having a hard time finding a Wingman FGC, that'll do the trick (for that stick alone tho lol)

@randyshibai5364 Год назад

I think they're just capitalizing on a name. You can get a mayflash at 70% discount and have it work fine on PS5, despite what the discourse is. My opponents can attest to this Edit: came back to say badass video. Subbed

@Geofficino Год назад

Thank you

@yurazah Год назад

just crazy to release a 3 when its a direct downgrade from the 2, some extra context, the te2 was made by markman, a fgc figure who worked at madcats at the time. he no longer works there, so madcats just winged it without any actual fgc input

@KetsubanSolo Год назад

My favorite part is that it's a "Tournament Edition" stick, but it has built-in Macro support so it's automatically banned from Tournaments.

@Adalwolf17 Год назад

Dam that sucks.... Should have just updated the TE2 and released that again. Im passing on this mess.

@KetsubanSolo Год назад

They don't own the rights to the TE2 any more. PXN's X9 stick uses that shell now

@R1ckmister Год назад

Wtf my street fighter TE stick works on ps5,4 and pc lol … this is backwards

@HumbleDude46995 Год назад

its a cashgrab

@Wrekkshoppe Год назад

Jasen? At some point in this video, you should've just came and flat out said "this is a shitty fightstick!". No one would hold it against you.😅

@JasenHicksFGC Год назад

😛

@troyglossop1113 Год назад

great video, i was curious about this stick as a gift but I think i will pass on one of my old sticks instead. I still use the noir vlx panel I purchased from you maybe 6 years ago. I would love to get a hitbox style one if you ever decide to do them again. Thanks so much for the video again, much respect.

@DriveCancelDC 8 дней назад

It's amazing that the MCZ name went from the TE Round 1 in 2009 to this monstrosity. The original TE still looks killer today and is basically an iconic stick now. Jeez.

@SirCharles. Месяц назад

This is just sad. How dare they call this thing the TE3? Blasphemy! lol. The PS3/4 gen MadCatz sticks were legendary, I still have a TE, TE-S, and TE2+ and all of them are quality products worth owning/modding. Now they're making their arcade sticks just like their other products, rebranded designs with no care or thought put into them. The case isn't even worth modding, this is pretty much e-waste.

@sentakuselect Год назад

Personally speaking, if any commercial fightstick retails at $300, you're better off with a custom build. This is why I think Qanba is bonkers with their PS5 lineup. Also any layout that exceeds the Namco Noir's distance in the middle is committing a sin like the TE3 and Qanba TItan...must be what the Chinese thinks is "luxurious" with all that space in between the lever and buttons.

@TopBadge Год назад

Wow, you can just buy an F500 Elite for less then half the price and not only does it have native PS3 PS4 360 ONE and switch support. but it has USB for PS5 And Series X. The build quality is really good the whole inner shell is made from steel. and it's modable.

@lawshadow1581 Год назад

What the hell happened to Madcatz this looks like a 80 bucks fight stick looks to "cheaply" in comparisson with the Madcatz TE2 that one was build like a tank. And looks so much better! Guess times are changing or humans changing. 300 you say? What good stuff are they smoking i wanna piece of that to :)

@omgitsjulian Год назад

This Is a cool channel. Its a shame I'm just discovering it, but glad I found it!!

@JasenHicksFGC Год назад

Thanks! I hope to keep making more BDTS eps this coming year as I relocate to the US and have room to film again!

@wanabdulhadi1268 Год назад

I’m so glad I came across this review… I don’t know what got me thinking it was officially licensed..

@Rasec1120 Год назад

How can MatCatz be so out of touch with this product? Thanks for the breakdown Jasen.

@radiantansel202 Год назад

MadCatz is no longer the one we met, the brand was purchased by a Chinese company. Don't buy the TE3

@Gamerlingual 4 месяца назад

Could you recommend a Happ bat top for this fight stick? Perhaps through Amazon or Aliexpress? I’m personally enjoying at the moment. I think from the bottom, hold it with a screw driver it while I unscrew the ball top

@00ga-booga Год назад

This is the info I was looking for. I have 4 Mad Catz TE's, two for x-box, two for PS3. Am I better off buying a couple of these or upgrading all of the original TEs with Brooks Fighting Boards to bring them up to date? Both options seem pricey, but I get the feeling I'll be better off with the second option.

@JasenHicksFGC Год назад

Get EZ MODS from JasensCustoms.com and upgrade them. Far better than this new “Madcatz” stuff.

@00ga-booga Год назад

@@JasenHicksFGC ok man, I will! Thanks for the quick reply!

@00ga-booga Год назад

@@JasenHicksFGC I apologize, I'm new to all this and I just want to make sure, but I have two more questions. First, the Brook UFB Fusion, is that the same as having the Brook UFB combined with the UFB-UP5? It's both combined into the same board? And second, if I do go with the Fusion, is the TE EZ Mod compatible with that?

@StreetfighterTips Год назад

Great stuff and enjoy retirement!

@FrostedZaibatsu Год назад

-$300 for a toolbox with buttons

@HumbleDude46995 Год назад

facts

@KetsubanSolo Год назад

As someone who's making an Arcade Stick out of a $14 toolbox for < $100, even THAT is insulting. At least you can repurpose the extra compartments to hold spare parts lmao

@terryb6052 Год назад

garbage stick

@thedutchrutter16 Год назад

Yeah, sticking with my Etokki Omni..

@KetsubanSolo Год назад

I love that stick so much

@OmegaRandy6 Год назад

TE3 has to be one of the worst sticks of this generation

@HumbleDude46995 Год назад

its MADCATZ so everyone go buy

@CutieLucyTwitch Год назад

PXN X9 is almost the exact same stick in terms of dimensions and function for $130 cheaper. Clamshell design, same locking mech, just different placements for the option/touch pad buttons. There's no value with this stick. It's a shit cash grab there to fool people into thinking madcatz is back. If they were really back they'd just sell two versions like hori does. One for Xbox, and one for PS5.

@jico5147 Год назад

the layout looks so weird. why is the joystick so far left to the stick. it’s supposed to be a bit closer to the buttons with that layout style.

@cyberathlete Год назад

Oh I think this is the guy who modded the VS sticks and were being sold through PAS. Nice! Man I love Mad Catz and I don't mind the design but not being able to work with any of the current or last gen consoles, and PC only is a bummer. Although I play all my fighting games on PC but then you can't take this to a tournament. Huge bummer. How well does the Brook Wingman work on this?

@GatsuRage Год назад

6:26 because no MarkMan to supervise it... that's the reason behind all those lil helpful details previous versions have. My razer panthera (gen1) has that double sided screwdiver, balltop+battop, and overall a really great product. You can tell that a team cared about the the consumer that was made for, but this TE3 u can also tell that it's just a cheap chinese product that looks and feels like a knockoff of previous iteration. Sad to see but MC it's back to being a shitty gaming peripherical product company..... (also the fact you need a ps4 controller to make it work on the console on 2023 it's baffling...)

@zman2994 Год назад

I'll stick with my F500 V2 and maybe get a Fighting Stick α.

@SpectreMK23 Год назад

not much good to say huh, I got mine for $189 at walmart. I absolutely love this stick, very easy to mod and the top panel is more sturdy than the TE2. I'm up to platinum on SF6 with it.

@use0fweapons Год назад

LOVE the latency test, definitely would love to see more of that

@HumbleDude46995 Год назад

players wondering why inputs are skipped and there is lag ... its horrible

@ricardocancino7280 Год назад

Great breakdown. Auto pass when I saw it needed a dongle/controller. I'll mod one of my old Hori sticks when I need to.

@Demon_Curse Год назад

How the mighty have fallen. Had the OG TE and TE2. Great sticks, but this...

@fernandocasillasjr Месяц назад

Not only do I suspect it's using the same laggy chip as the EGO, but I suspect it's the same plexi as well. 😂

@RivasJonathan775 Год назад

Has anybody tried upgrading TE3? To support PS5 games 🙏

@mikahl757 Год назад

Just for clarification, that latency tests applicable to PS3 NS PC. The advertised PS4 & XB compatibility requiring tethered controllers will have higher latency, would make for a interesting followup video 😈

@JasenHicksFGC Год назад

I’m not convinced that’s true; the thought is they are only stealing the encryption key from the original controller and passing it through Vs. Converting the signals. I’ll see if I can dongle a controller and have it work with the testing rig.

@flopping4life420 Год назад

I literally can't find a video on here, with someone actually using the stick sigh! 🤦‍♂️

@quatro2732 Год назад

I saw this in japan few weeks ago and just looking at the stick do not buy this thing. Its all plastic and super expensive. I rather mod my old stick and solder my ps5 controller if you want to play fighting games on ps5.

@rebootcomputa 8 месяцев назад

TE2+ way better than this, specially with all the mods I done to it, is almost the same price as a new TE3... and it works with everything.

@NaqshbandiNaqeebi Год назад

Madcatz are soo full of crap , having said that , all companies seem to crap from up high in the UK market , prices are ridiculously high, compared to US or Japan

@twarp21 Год назад

Great vid. Thanks

@Amsalja12 Год назад

All they had to do was take the te2 and make it ps5 compatible. Wtf were they thinking here?

@Senorgrav Год назад

The TE3 and the Obsidian 2 just really don’t seem worth it at all

@pootnannies Год назад

yikes. first the EGO and now this catastrophe.

@bluemajiic1979 Год назад

It's very outdated for that price... They tried lol

@MrOrzeker Год назад

Ok so never buy that model, gotcha.

@kingslayer0051 2 месяца назад

It's really difficult to input quarter circle forward/backward on this arcade stick ... Any tips on how to make this easier?

@socillizt4life 17 дней назад

If you’re using a square gate on the stick, just get an octagonal gate. There as cheap as anything & make 90,180 & 360 degree inputs far easier than a square gate does. Square gates are better for charge characters though.

@kylethornton77 Год назад

Mad Catz is not the same anymore! I think I bought the EGO when operations closed up in the US and now it's not worth above $99 - best to go 8bitdo or Mayflash for a cheaper one or Hori/Qanba/Victrix for the high priced

@kylethornton77 Год назад

I just opened up mine last night - it's definitely a repurposed Gamesir C2/ EGO / Dragonslay board

@shikamaru526 Год назад

Awful generic chasis with a terrible pcb 😬

@use0fweapons Год назад

no ps5 support on the edge of a new street fighter release? mad catz back at it again i guess.

@thamastaes 7 месяцев назад

Is input lag better than te2+? Stock vs stock

@SoranErdeOld Год назад

Glad to see a review up for this, and I must say, I'm glad this helped me save $300 that I could spend on other things instead of this pile of garbage. Massive input lag, no native PS5 support, and the fact you have to tether an official controller for this to work on PS4 and Xbox consoles? No fucking thanks.

@anderson9244MLG Год назад

You call that a TE3?!? what a sick joke!

@CheddarGetter Год назад

my thoughts EXACTLY. Who is this thing for? too expensive for casuals, and too locked down w/ poor build qulity for hobbyists and enthusiasts. Just dumb.

@darth-umbrex Год назад

The hori alpha is more of a successor to the te2 than this thing.

@Nacogdoches86 8 месяцев назад

Dies work for ps5 Brook adapter

@naci2378 Год назад

why doesn't it say ps4/ps5?

@donpunchpunk Год назад

ffffffffffffffffff unlicensed PS3 PC controller is deal killer ... Thanks for uploading this

@ThePalerider12 Год назад

I literally just built a stick using a Silent Qanba lever and nice screw in silent buttons, all of which are more expensive than Sanwa stuff, and a custom enclosure with a Sega 2P button layout. Adding up the pcb, wires, passthrough and cables, it still came out less expensive than this plastic thing. If a company is going to make an arcade stick, either make it really nice and premium to justify the higher price, like Victrix and Qanba, for the enthusiast and more hardcore crowd, or make something more budget oriented for the more budget conscious, beginner, or non-enthusiast crowd, like what 8bitdo and Mayflash have put out. Don't make a cheap product that does absolutely nothing special and try to sell it as premium.

@NYCMax_ Год назад

Madcatz needs to stop

@reeeech9245 Год назад

if you keep going down the rabbit hole. you'll realize how easy it is to make one. All this provides is a basic stick setup, for people who do not know or want to do any sort of modding or maintenance. Honestly, I think the should have made a hitbox/all button controller. TE2+ works on my PS5 for SFV. People can just use that for a stick. Most people are switching to all button controllers and having this will keep them in the game.

@rauschka3395 Год назад

I was hoping this would replace the Te2 which had issues with the closing mechanism. I’ve paid over $300 for sticks before so I know what I’m looking for in one and the compatibility issues are laughable considering the Te2 was close to perfect except for that closing mechanism. I have yet to find a stick better than the Qanba Pearl.

@max917 Год назад

This was exactly the review I was looking for, thank you so much @Jasen Hicks, I think I’ll keep looking for a different stick!

@damonlove8 Год назад

man, I tried so hard to finish the video when you said it’s $300 but has no native PS5 connectivity. I finished the video cause you were nice enough to put a review on this fighting stick. I’ll probably wait for it to go on sale for $80 at most and use it to learn how to swap out parts on an arcade stick. 😅

@CYBERPSYCHOPATH Год назад

It didn't really register to me when reading "TE3" - I saw the stick and something about it made me immediately just assume it was an old MC product based on how it looks..