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Babylon 5 For the First Time
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Join Brent as he does his first watch of the Babylon 5 Season 4 episode, "Intersections in Real Time." In this one, its Sheridan and another dude are in a room talking...that's it for the whole episode. But oh my was this episode fantastic. So join Brent as he dives into his first watch of this episode.
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@bearzerger
@bearzerger 8 месяцев назад
To this day I think this is one of the best torture scenes ever put on tv. There's no unnecessary violence, no sadistic pleasure in Sheridan's suffering, no high strung emotion on the part of the interrogator. He's fully in control. The calm, methodical and utterly professional way they are trying to break Sheridan down is one of the scariest things, because it is so realistic. First they break down his body by physically beating him, then they take his strength by starving and dehydrating him, as well as by preventing him from sleeping, they disorient him by taking his sense of time, they take his dignity by poisoning him with that sandwich, they break his spirit by taking his supposed "victories", his acts of defiance, and turning them against him. And ultimately they take his sense of what is real, by repeating the torture word for word. There's little doubt in my mind you could get anyone to say exactly whatever you wanted after a couple of repeats of this.
@sharkdentures3247
@sharkdentures3247 8 месяцев назад
I love a good torture scene. (This one, "there are 4 lights!", even the more humorous "War Stories" from Firefly!) I am concerned "what" that says about ME. lol
@bearzerger
@bearzerger 8 месяцев назад
@@sharkdentures3247 I wouldn't say I love them, but they are certainly riveting in their horror if they are done right. Both of the ones you mentioned are certainly up there, but I don't think either one is quite up to this episode. With Trek the breakdown of Picard wasn't nearly as all encompassing or as inventive as I recall and War Stories was full of sadistic pleasure which makes it more like G'Kar's torture at the hand of the Zentauri emperor.
@VolrinSeth
@VolrinSeth 8 месяцев назад
There are a couple of moments where the interrogator gets emotional in his pleas to get Sheridan to confess and heated in his assurances that he has no rights and no hope.
@bearzerger
@bearzerger 8 месяцев назад
@@VolrinSeth all those moments are quite intentional if you ask me. Part of taking away Sheridan's hope and breaking his spirit is seemingly giving Sheridan victories only to take them away afterwards to throw him into despair. It happened with his defiance when he ate the Sandwich, again when he convinced the Drazi to resist and finally when he seemingly broke the professional shell of the interrogator. With the first he ended up soiling himself being poisoned for four days, with the second the Drazi ended up switching sides becoming part of his torturers and his last victory ended up being meaningless because all it got him was a new interrogator starting at zero to begin everything all over again.
@ciaranirvine
@ciaranirvine 8 месяцев назад
An absolute masterclass of an episode. The interrogator is the personification of the phrase "banality of evil" and Sheridan's magnificent "Every. Time. I. Say. No." One of my top episodes of any show, not just B5.
@Muck006
@Muck006 8 месяцев назад
MANY times better than the Star Trek one.
@bureau31
@bureau31 8 месяцев назад
Interogator: Have you been interrogated before? Sheridan: Yes. Interogator: Anyone I know? Sheridan: You'd be surprised.
@entelechy00
@entelechy00 8 месяцев назад
He said his name was Sebastian, though I am given to understand that people referred to him as Jack, like you don't know Jack.
@BennoWitter
@BennoWitter 8 месяцев назад
One little detail always gets me, when they turn that stretcher into another table for the new interrogator.
@Muck006
@Muck006 8 месяцев назад
Including the touchscreen controls for "everything an interrogator needs". The CIA was doubtlessly envious of that technology.
@duaneswab3420
@duaneswab3420 8 месяцев назад
This is hands down my favorite episode of Babylon 5. The ad breaks are the Intersections in Real Time.
@chrisnielsen9885
@chrisnielsen9885 8 месяцев назад
100% this. I always wondered if anyone else felt the same way
@tkc1129
@tkc1129 8 месяцев назад
Absolutely one of my favorite episodes, and I knew you would like it. "But can you win?" "Every time I say 'no!'"
@Muck006
@Muck006 8 месяцев назад
Sadly ... far too few people say NO ... to evil government agents ... and thus they become complicit AND CORRUPTED!
@darrenbabidge4694
@darrenbabidge4694 8 месяцев назад
Was at University when this aired. Mate in room next door heard it, wandered in and was transfixed. He was a big The Prisoner fan so we had a great chat comparing afterwards.
@stephenhillier3522
@stephenhillier3522 8 месяцев назад
Yes, I guess this is showing that JMS was a Prisoner fan again (along with the 'Be Seeing You' references). I think the interogator looks a little like Anton Rodgers who was one of the best versions of No. 2, and the way he is dressed seems similar.
@SteveT211
@SteveT211 8 месяцев назад
Made me smile when you said it would be good if Jack the Ripper walked in… the amazing actor Wayne Alexander also played the Drazi in this episode. He played Lorien too.
@Nic0maK
@Nic0maK 8 месяцев назад
One of the best épisode. You don't even need to know much of the show to appreciate it.
@daverussell3552
@daverussell3552 8 месяцев назад
You finally got to this episode. One of my favorites, but when it originally aired we had to wait almost 4 months for the next episode. And I was so afraid that was it because they kept replaying this episode and then they moved the airing to 2 am. Finally the new episodes came out and we were able to see what happens next - but it was a long 4 months. You are lucky you only have to wait 1 week!
@philipgharris799
@philipgharris799 8 месяцев назад
Delighted you enjoyed it. It's simply my favourite episode and Bruce Boxleitner acts his heart out. It has echoes of everything he has done to that point, but more on that when we reach the second time.
@juriskrumgolds5810
@juriskrumgolds5810 8 месяцев назад
And this, ladies and gentlemen, is my personal #1 favourite episode in the entire series.
@txheadshots
@txheadshots 8 месяцев назад
Fantastic episode... Non Spoiler trivia for this episode - Intersections in real time is that every "between commercials" bit is real time.. there are no cuts... everything you watch unfolds in real time. You are watching several pieces of the interrogation, but everything we watch is real time with no cut aways... it's brilliant television There is also a spoiler bit of trivia about this episode that hopefully someone will share with you when you do B5 for the Second Time.
@RangerChris61
@RangerChris61 8 месяцев назад
Its interesting, some of the best Scifi is just 2 people talking in a room. From this or Duet from DS9, it is an interesting thing to consider.
@Muck006
@Muck006 8 месяцев назад
Or G'Kar and Londo having a "philosophical discussion" while trapped in an elevator ... about NOT cooperating, because one would rather see the other dead, even including sacrificing himself. Or Sinclair and Garibaldi sitting in a shuttle flying towards Babylon 4 ... and talking "fasten-zip" and "socks" ... basically a slap in the face reminding everyone that space is REALLY REALLY BIG and shuttles dont really come with an entertainment system.
@exile220ify
@exile220ify 8 месяцев назад
Gotta agree: this is a highlight of season 4. It's one of those that, when I first watched it, I immediately rewound it and watched it twice more. :)
@johntaylor564
@johntaylor564 8 месяцев назад
This was the 84th episode of B5 plus Room 17 adds up to 101 as Room 101 from 1984. If I remember correctly this was a deliberate nod to Orwell from JMS.
@MarvinNoFun
@MarvinNoFun 8 месяцев назад
The whole arc of Earth falling into totalitarian dictatorship is heavily inspired by 1984, and this episode is the peak of Orwellianism in B5.
@Nikioko
@Nikioko 8 месяцев назад
10:44: The other way is using A.I. to make an avatar of Sheridan, imitate his voice and make a fake confession. Welcome to the technical abilities of 2024.
@simongiles9749
@simongiles9749 8 месяцев назад
The interrogator does actually mention that, but they ideally want Sheridan in front of a liv e crowd so that there can't be claims of deep fakery.
@neilbiggs1353
@neilbiggs1353 8 месяцев назад
One small production note - this episode was intended to just be essentially those two people in the room, but JMS got cold feet and added at least one scene happening elsewhere. However, when filmed, this episode ran a little long, and another one ran a little short so they took out those scenes from here and put them in other episode(s), so it came back to how JMS wanted it at the start.
@catprog
@catprog 8 месяцев назад
13:50 Death is an escape from the torture. Now he knows death will not be the escape.
@MoOrion
@MoOrion 8 месяцев назад
The Truth is absolute. Those who stand for the Truth are good, those who pervert the Truth are evil. It's as simple as that and that is the message of this episode. You may not like it as it's uncomfortable but it is the Truth and the Truth will set you free.
@dargron7614
@dargron7614 8 месяцев назад
We are diving head-first into George Orwell's "1984" now. Orwell's book came with the warning "Don't let it happen. It depends on you." but if the book has any failing, it's that it never really spells out how his world degenerated into such madness, making it easy to disconnect and say "It could never happen to us." One of the things I love most about B5 is that throughout the last 3 seasons, we have been getting constant little hints in the background (and sometimes foreground) of changes to Earth policy that have been filling in those gaps to spell out how a free society could willingly transition itself towards Orwell's nightmare. Any similarities here to Star Trek are because the Cardassians too, take heavy inspiration from George Orwell's 1984 (especially the way Gul Dukat and Garak are able to fully commit themselves to conflicting "truths" on a whim).
@eddiemidnite
@eddiemidnite 8 месяцев назад
Someone may have already mentioned but the original title of the episode was going to be 'A Passing Shadow' and was to be the finale of season 4 before the story crunch happened.
@dcsignal5241
@dcsignal5241 8 месяцев назад
Sorry Brent "Every Time I Say No" beats "There are 4 lights" every time.
@Karthos1000
@Karthos1000 8 месяцев назад
This episode wasn't necessary for budget reasons; it was done because this was something JMS had wanted to do for a while. When I first saw this episode, I didn't like it, but as time has gone by I've enjoyed it more and more with each rewatch. Probably because I first saw this when I was maybe 10 or 12, and now I'm 35 so I've grown up a bit since then.
@sarahschenk2428
@sarahschenk2428 3 месяца назад
This was the first episode of B5 I saw. it was during its instant run on TNT. I was flipping channels, saw Bruce Boxleitner, who I’ve loved since Scarecrow and Mrs. King, talking to an alien. I thought maybe I found a newer Twilight Zone or Outer Limits episode. After a few minutes I was hooked. The rest is history. God I ❤️this show.
@Asehpe
@Asehpe 8 месяцев назад
You looked displeased in the thumbnail, so I feared the worst... but it turned out you liked the episode! Great!
@Babylon5FortheFirstTime
@Babylon5FortheFirstTime 8 месяцев назад
Gotcha!
@Nikioko
@Nikioko 8 месяцев назад
Pain givers. We had those in the episode The Parliament of Dreams.
@Mrhullsie2
@Mrhullsie2 8 месяцев назад
Jack comes in later, in disguise
@JauntyScarecrow
@JauntyScarecrow 8 месяцев назад
This is one of my favorite episodes of tv in general, and my favorite episode of Babylon 5. Unfortunately, part of the effect is lost when the commercials are cut, you don't get the disorientation that breaking away and returning causes. Think about the title and the end, though. And what the interrogator says about the truth. Imagine the commercials are still there, and what you're seeing is Intersections in Real Time.
@michaelriddick7116
@michaelriddick7116 8 месяцев назад
In episodes like these I'm always reminded of Daniel Day Lewis's performance as John Proctor in "The Crucible" 😢 "I am not worth the dust on the feet of them that hang." ❤
@philmarston9078
@philmarston9078 8 месяцев назад
I think this was the original season 4 finale... or intended to be,
@edwardhuggins84
@edwardhuggins84 8 месяцев назад
It was the original season 5 opening episode
@txheadshots
@txheadshots 8 месяцев назад
Spoilers
@Nikioko
@Nikioko 8 месяцев назад
@@txheadshots Where?
@loka7783
@loka7783 8 месяцев назад
Methinks the point of "looping" back to the start was to drive home the point: How many rounds of this can you stand? Literally how many times you can say no while they say yes?
@kalzar26
@kalzar26 8 месяцев назад
For me one of things this episode really showcases with the "I'm not the enemy" is the concept of "Just following orders" the interrogator sees himself as basically just a bureaucrat or lawyer doing his job. He doesn't make policy, he isn't setting the rules everyone has to play by, it's just his job to keep everyone within them. The repetition is such a nasty twist. After one has resisted it once, twice, etc what is the point in trying to resist it again. Sooner or later that trapped in a loop feeling would drive someone to seek out any change probably even confessing just to escape it.
@tomcopple7633
@tomcopple7633 8 месяцев назад
In my opinion, the Star Trek message is when the interrogator is talking about how the truth is fluid and it is what we choose it to be, and Sheridan saying that he wins every time he says "no." There are always convenient narratives that one can use to justify oneself, but the truth still stands. I know I am grossly paraphrasing the episode and their debate on what is truth, but that was my take away.
@bearzerger
@bearzerger 8 месяцев назад
It's kinda subverted though by the Drazi being converted in the end, which shows that everyone does have a breaking point and if the enemy is strong and ruthless enough eventually you will say "yes" to make it stop. No matter what is truth.
@raifthemad
@raifthemad 8 месяцев назад
@@bearzerger That Drazi was in on it from the start, not converted at the end. He was there to give him some hope, in order to crush it later. To mess with his head, to make him not trust anything. It was so obvious, you must be quite gullible to fall for it.
@bearzerger
@bearzerger 8 месяцев назад
@@raifthemad perhaps the Drazi was in on it, that certainly is a possibility. It may even be likely. I'm not denying that. However, it is also quite possible that he did get broken afterwards. He appeared further along the process than Sheridan and unlike with Sheridan, Earthgov wouldn't have had any compunctions to use a telepath on him. Just the episode before Bester explained us step by step what he did with Garibaldi. p.s. just so you know snide condescending statements like calling someone gullible with little evidence don't help your argument they make you look immature.
@dargron7614
@dargron7614 8 месяцев назад
@@raifthemad Assuming it even was a Drazi. We saw in the B5 gift shop that they can make pretty convincing commercial Drazi masks. I imagine with a bit of dedicated effort, they could dress up one of their guys to a point that could fool a weak and disoriented Sheridan.
@raifthemad
@raifthemad 8 месяцев назад
@@bearzerger I considered leaving the jab out, but I really didn't care enough about the conversation to forego it.
@aliquisvultteisus1012
@aliquisvultteisus1012 8 месяцев назад
Yeah. Watch close. This is the future you want
@Nikioko
@Nikioko 8 месяцев назад
Brent exactly nailed this episode with his prediction.
@Muck006
@Muck006 8 месяцев назад
... which isnt too difficult.
@Nikioko
@Nikioko 8 месяцев назад
@@Muck006 He nailed it in every detail. Jeff, on the other hand, was way off.
@apoc9ify
@apoc9ify 8 месяцев назад
Hands down this is my favorite interrogation episode. It's better than in the Star Trek Next Generation. Looking forward on the discussion.
@stevemartegani
@stevemartegani 8 месяцев назад
One of the Top 5 episodes of the show for sure. Been waiting for your reactions to this one for months! Over the years, this is probably the episode I've grown to like more and more as I've gotten older. I appreciate it a lot more than when I was a kid watching it live.
@sststr
@sststr 8 месяцев назад
Now that I'm all caught up, the worst part of it all is having to actually wait for new episodes to be posted only once a week... Glad you liked this episode, it is a daring episode for being more or less just two people in an empty room talking, but holy cow it is damned good!
@t3amtomahawk
@t3amtomahawk 8 месяцев назад
Among the most Babylon 5 episodes. The black box episodes always dig into the major themes and this really analyzed the banality of evil and the fight of fascism on a personal level. Master class episode for sure
@Nikioko
@Nikioko 8 месяцев назад
Banality of Evil. Eichmann in Jerusalem. Hannah Arendt.
@VioletDidi
@VioletDidi 8 месяцев назад
I know what Ivanova would answer - "I'm Jewish, we have corned beef for breakfast, lunch AND dinner".
@SirMarshalHaig
@SirMarshalHaig 8 месяцев назад
"You´d be surprised" I love the recall to the Inquisitor. Just missing in here. But I also miss a little something from Sheridan. A little reference to that lovely specimen of a human who interrogates him about the great city of Nuernberg.
@Kilrauko
@Kilrauko 8 месяцев назад
This episode hits on another level after whole "enemy combatants" became a thing. Sheridan playing by the rulebook of a soldier believing in a rule of law during conflict with POW's while the other side has deemed him to be "bad guy" to be used as needed and painted as wanted at will without any rights. Might be personal preference but this has one hell of a punch to this day with it's core themes, and will continue to do so decades to come.
@helmut5061
@helmut5061 8 месяцев назад
Everytime I see this episode I wonder if the torturer himself get punished if he fail or if he get rewarded if he succeed. Nevertheless the most impact has the fact that there are no sideplots or anything. Just 42 minutes of torture chamber without a conclusion. Don't know of any other tv show from this era that would contribute a hole episode for simply show psychological horror.
@algi1
@algi1 8 месяцев назад
One of the best episodes.
@ACIoannina
@ACIoannina 8 месяцев назад
The original season finale!
@edwardhuggins84
@edwardhuggins84 8 месяцев назад
The original season 5 opener
@txheadshots
@txheadshots 8 месяцев назад
Spoilers
@hornorsilk2901
@hornorsilk2901 8 месяцев назад
@@edwardhuggins84 no, this was always planned for S4 finale. Not S5.
@edwardhuggins84
@edwardhuggins84 8 месяцев назад
@hornorsilk2901 sorry but it was always planned as the season 5 opening episode Sheridan's capture was the season 4 cliffhanger
@ACIoannina
@ACIoannina 8 месяцев назад
@@txheadshots how?
@dmservetus42
@dmservetus42 8 месяцев назад
I think Sheridan just hallucinated the Drazi in the black hood at the end. Same as he was seeing Delenn.
@sdfried4877
@sdfried4877 8 месяцев назад
The Drazi was working with them. It was all fake. He reveals himself to show Sheridan that they in full control. That great speech he gave to make the Drazi give his life was for nothing. They were just playing with him.
@TheFireMonkey
@TheFireMonkey 8 месяцев назад
This is definitely a great episode.
@BabylonLurker
@BabylonLurker 8 месяцев назад
Oh, yes, a top notch episode to me, too. Not easy to watch, but excellent. "writing a 'confession' for someone is a forced confession". I will go one step further. It's not even a confession, it's a forced statement that is designed to look like a confession. I know, it's not a big difference, but thats my story and I'm sticking to it 😉 Be seeing you on Monday.
@Heegaherger
@Heegaherger 8 месяцев назад
An effective technique called the false execution, there is a variation that use repeated arrest/release cycles. The false executions is used to crush the 5 more min resistance/strength.
@ianstopher9111
@ianstopher9111 8 месяцев назад
Already Sheridan has returned from the dead. Now Sheridan returns from a mock death. " I've come full circle." "Don't we all?"
@chriscoombes6751
@chriscoombes6751 8 месяцев назад
B5 at its finest! JMS has the ability to get you hyped up that the good-guys are taking a stand/winning & then sweeping the rug right out from under you & suddenly all looks lost! I remember seeing this on TV for the first time, & not only thinking how brutal (without being brutal- if that makes sense?) Sheridans interrogation/torture was - but how the hell could not only Sheridan, but also Garibaldi possibly come back from this?? - The leader of the resistance caught & held deep in the heart of enemy territory & the brainwashed traitor who's been discarded by the enemy now his purpose has been served and is now hated by those he betrayed! - one of the best B5 episodes of this or any series!
@Nikioko
@Nikioko 8 месяцев назад
There... are... *FOUR* ... lights!
@simonoleary9264
@simonoleary9264 8 месяцев назад
I agree this is B5's "There are four lights" episode, but I think this does it even better, especially with that final mind f***. That said, I think the TNG episode provided a basis for this to build on.
@Nikioko
@Nikioko 8 месяцев назад
Yes, this is even better than the TNG episode.
@TheRobertLcollins
@TheRobertLcollins 8 месяцев назад
I believe JMS has said that he talked to Amnesty International to get the interrogation as realistic as possible. That included the interrogators and their approaches to obtaining confessions. Looking forward to seeing how both of you react to this one.
@sdfried4877
@sdfried4877 8 месяцев назад
That’s why the TNG episode and this one are similar, because the tactics used are based on the real thing.
@Petrosman
@Petrosman 8 месяцев назад
It's an amazing episode but it's also hard to watch. I usually don't rewatch it. The things brought up in this episode, the philosophical ideas bounced back and forth between John and the Interrogator, it's just amazing. It's also very similar to Here Comes the Inquisitor. Yeah, they needed the budget for this season, so this is a pretty low quantity episode when it comes to special FX, but it makes up with quality of acting and quality of cinematography. JMS really wanted us to be with Sheridan in this episode, so no B-plots, not distractions, just focusing on his torture. A lot of people in the fandom rate this episode very highly, top 10 of the entire show for sure.
@praiha
@praiha 8 месяцев назад
This episode is one of the reasons why I vastly prefer the Captain Jellico plot to the torture plot in Chain of Command.
@Dreamfox-df6bg
@Dreamfox-df6bg 8 месяцев назад
A little teaser. This episode is even better than you think as you will see.
@putinscat1208
@putinscat1208 2 месяца назад
Sheridan lied.. He forgot to mention he recently died.
@geoffharper8650
@geoffharper8650 8 месяцев назад
There bee 5 lights .
@mirawenya
@mirawenya 8 месяцев назад
I’ve never understood the drazi bit where he’s still alive.
@sdfried4877
@sdfried4877 8 месяцев назад
He’s just an actor. He reveals himself to show that they are in total control.
@StuartistStudio1964
@StuartistStudio1964 8 месяцев назад
This is a truly Orwellian story.
@juriskrumgolds5810
@juriskrumgolds5810 8 месяцев назад
Such a great homage to 1984!
@simongiles9749
@simongiles9749 8 месяцев назад
An ambition of mine is to work with the local am-dram group to do a double bill of this and Doctor Who:Midnight. Oh, and for those who keep misusing the term (cough Scott from Grey 17), *this* is a bottle episode.
@charlesmaurer6214
@charlesmaurer6214 8 месяцев назад
This is the only show I didn't like as 15min. would have done. It did have a sweet side to it as it is the show I knew JMS had to slow down as season 5 was approved. Yes I remember it well and half the time will jump past this one.
@jessepage6575
@jessepage6575 8 месяцев назад
I would have thought that the main "star Trek" or "sci-fi" message is that truth is objective, not subjective and is not whatever we want. That truth is truth, and all it takes to resist tyranny is one man to be the first to say no. That seems more central to the episode and Babylon 5 as a whole than "don't hide behind your job" which is a good point but seems less.... applicable perhaps is the word in the modern day. The whole episode and indeed the whole point of the war between Babylon 5 and President Clark deals with the question of what is truth, quid est veritas the central question in philosophy. This is like the scene where Sheridan actually learns what the Shadows represent or when Edgars explains his goals and philosophy, it is the moment when we see why there is a fight here and what the disagreement is. That truth is sacred and objective and not some fluid plaything to be toyed with political games. Sorry for the rant... just very applicable to me these days.
@simongiles9749
@simongiles9749 8 месяцев назад
Thats certainly a running theme of Season 4, i dont know if I'd call it "Star Trekky" though. For that i tbink youd have to go with Sheridan's idea that you just have to say "No" one more time than they tell you to do something you know to be wrong.
@jessepage6575
@jessepage6575 8 месяцев назад
@@simongiles9749 I would not call it "star "trek" like messages either, but that is what Brent and Jeff have been calling them so I just used that term to be consistent. The way they've explained their use of the term is how to get to a better future... hard to do that without objective truth.
@TheNoSystem
@TheNoSystem 8 месяцев назад
So the big question what is better this or chain of Command part 2? Acting is better in one while the character motivations and framing is better in the other but the acting carries hard in Chain of Command.
@Dancing-Joy
@Dancing-Joy 8 месяцев назад
Mustard seed
@joeychicago6436
@joeychicago6436 8 месяцев назад
My understanding was this episode is where Babylon5 ended, I think thats why there was so much exposition in the previous episodes. I'm glad it was picked up, but it disrupted the story flow, I would have loved to see the last 3 episodes fleshed out the way JMS originally wanted to do them.
@txheadshots
@txheadshots 8 месяцев назад
This was never the end. The final episode of the series is pretty much the way JMS planned it to end from the very beginning
@dargron7614
@dargron7614 8 месяцев назад
I think the idea would have been that the previous episode was where Season 4 would have ended, with the major cliffhangers of Sheridan captured and Mr Garibaldi left alone and hated by anyone who might be able to help him. Then this episode would have been the season opener - much like season 4's opener, a somewhat isolated piece that leaves us still hungry for resolution to the cliffhangers of the previous season (again we would have been left to ponder "Whatever happened to Mr Garibaldi?").
@edwardhuggins84
@edwardhuggins84 8 месяцев назад
This was the original first episode of season 5
@txheadshots
@txheadshots 8 месяцев назад
Spoilers
@edwardhuggins84
@edwardhuggins84 8 месяцев назад
@@txheadshots how?
@txheadshots
@txheadshots 8 месяцев назад
@@edwardhuggins84 they specifically state they don’t want this kind of information as they watch for the first time - including, but not limited to, drawing attention to how things were supposed to be in the original plan Save that trivia for their second watch through
@edwardhuggins84
@edwardhuggins84 8 месяцев назад
@txheadshots but it's not going against what they have asked. What they are on about is when things had to change do to actors not being available or leaving like Andrea Thompson (Talia Winters) original plan. However, the fact that this episode went to plan the only thing that was different was when it happened.
@Nikioko
@Nikioko 8 месяцев назад
@@txheadshots Nonsense. They already know that the show was about to end after Season 4 and JMS had to condense things. Like everybody back then did. Definitely *no* spoiler.
@CallumArmistead
@CallumArmistead 8 месяцев назад
3 episodes left? you're gonna have a hard time ranking them lol
@cathakjordi
@cathakjordi 8 месяцев назад
And the ending of this episode was supposed to be the way Season 4 ended in the original plan of JMS, before he thought he only had 4 seasons to do it all.
@edwardhuggins84
@edwardhuggins84 8 месяцев назад
Nope it was how season 5 was supposed to start the season 4 cliffhanger was Sheridan's capture
@txheadshots
@txheadshots 8 месяцев назад
Spoilers
@hornorsilk2901
@hornorsilk2901 8 месяцев назад
@@edwardhuggins84 no, this was the original ending of S4.
@edwardhuggins84
@edwardhuggins84 8 месяцев назад
@hornorsilk2901 no it not it the original opening episode for season 5
@cathakjordi
@cathakjordi 8 месяцев назад
@@txheadshotsIt's not spoilers, it does not reference anything past the episode we have just seen. And production details disconnected with the actual plot
@Soulsphere001
@Soulsphere001 8 месяцев назад
My assumption is that the interrogator was killed, since it was actually his last chance to get a confession. Though maybe I'm wrong.
@ianstopher9111
@ianstopher9111 8 месяцев назад
It is one interpretation, but why waste a good interrogator just because they cannot break one prisoner? Just get another interrogator and start again.
@Henrik_Holst
@Henrik_Holst 8 месяцев назад
I don't think so, considering that they had planned for several cycles they where fully aware that they wouldn't be able to break Sheridan in the first cycle.
@Soulsphere001
@Soulsphere001 8 месяцев назад
@@ianstopher9111 Perhaps he's not good enough though. It just seems, to me at least, that he urgently needs to break Sheridan. Though it could just be that he's trying to convey the gravity of the situation to Sheridan.
@Soulsphere001
@Soulsphere001 8 месяцев назад
@@Henrik_Holst Also, the interrogator didn't seem especially stressed. So you're probably right. Still, I wonder.
@AmanChooses
@AmanChooses 8 месяцев назад
This episode is really hard for me to watch
@hornorsilk2901
@hornorsilk2901 8 месяцев назад
You mostly predicted the episode, except it had no B plot. Also, this was originally going to be the season finale.
@txheadshots
@txheadshots 8 месяцев назад
Spoilers
@hornorsilk2901
@hornorsilk2901 8 месяцев назад
@@txheadshots it's not a spoiler
@txheadshots
@txheadshots 8 месяцев назад
@@hornorsilk2901 it tells them information they didn’t receive within the show. By their definition, that is spoiler information they do not want on the first viewing
@hornorsilk2901
@hornorsilk2901 8 месяцев назад
@@txheadshots that's not the definition of a spoiler; I am thinking you are trolling
@Nikioko
@Nikioko 8 месяцев назад
@@txheadshots Wrong. It is an information already known when it aired the first time. And they *do* know that the show was on the brink of cancellation after Season 4 and that JMS had to wrap things up. So, definitely *NO* spoiler.
@cphine
@cphine 8 месяцев назад
It's a great episode of television, but one that I usually skip on re-watches. I just get angry watching it. I can't imagine being in a similar situation, and I'm sure things like this do actually happen in real life.
@Klaital1
@Klaital1 8 месяцев назад
This is one of my least favorite episodes in the whole series. Similarly to Believers from season 1, it's just not at all fun to watch.
@shellock2592
@shellock2592 8 месяцев назад
This is still my least fav episode
@hyloguy6847
@hyloguy6847 7 месяцев назад
The only thing I have against this episode is that THIS is where PTEN broke up the season when it first aired, so we were all left hanging at this point, the very darkest point in the whole series, for almost four months! It was agonizing 🫠
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