Somewhere in Madagascar, there's an old lady who tells the tale of some strange foreigner who once tried to steal her cat, and only left when she waved a frying pan at her and her husband.
“If they don’t want them there they’d have every right to deny new immigrants.” “But they do want them there.” “But you can imagine how it’d be if they didn’t!”
Immigrants "being dumped in" (I´d say "searching for a better life", folks got agency and reasons to come) pretty much IS the entire history of this country. Everybody but the natives has very recently had migrants in their family history, and the whole idea of the country is of this new, unburdened project for people from everywhere. But if you prefer talking about people being dumped in against their agency? That is a topic deserving discussion.... only that wasnt too recently.
I casually scrolled past your comment, then had to go back to hit the like button as it suddenly dawned on me how funny it was. It was like… delayed humor. It took a second.
Haïti might be thousands of miles away from Madagascar, and Haitians might be descendants from slaves captured overwhelmingly in west Africa, on the other side of the continent. But let's face it, both of their populations are very very black, and that's the only criteria Heather needs to draw her conclusions that they must all be the same. 🙄
I surmise that incident in Madagascar where someone clearly chased her off their property for appearing to groom their cat might have been the primary prejudicial catalyst. The cat was black too which didn’t help matters (this was before they overcooked it).
Lol it's pretty obvious. The fact that they're island nations (in a very loose sense for Haiti) may also have played a role, but let's keep it real, that's the main thing she had in mind. Scary and shocking black people culture.
Meanwhile somewhere in Madagascar, some Malagasy woman is remembering when some white lady tried to eat her cat and she had to chase her away with a frying pan
Just pointing out, they both literally acknowledge they know nothing about this story. Yet, instead of waiting and maybe doing a little research, they feel the need to comment on it and amplify it and offer opinions of what it represents
that's the rightwing commentator secret sauce. read article headlines, listen to soundbites, take everything out of context. anytime you're called out just play your trump card: "well i don't have all the facts in front of me, but --" and then go back to whatever it was you were saying already
“Maybe this is a trap.” Yeah, you’re so close, and then you fumble on the goal line. Yeah, it’s a trap. It’s white nationalists dangling their shiny keys in front of rubes like you knowing you’ll spread it for them with the “assuming it’s true” qualifier. Never “just ask questions.” Just asking question should very much be discouraged. Ask questions and then see if they have an answer. That’s what actual skepticism is.
@@sotrain515 "We know the election probably wasn't rigged, but we're going to continue pushing that narrative and questioning election integrity, anyway."
I give it 4%, just because I could plausibly believe that a local would enjoy screwing with some gormless tourist by doing something completely ridiculous and acting like it's totally normal in her neck of the woods, just to see the look on the tourists' face and tell all her friends and family about her prank and laugh at this clueless idiot. It might've even been her family'e cat, if the cat had zero reaction to a human sprinting towards it waving a big clobbering thing and sat there patiently while the humans had a conversation. Because it musta sat there, otherwise there'd be no cat to cook in the first place. You can't eat something you can't find.
and frankly, if it did happen, it would ultimately reflect very well upon the Madagascan woman. she saw an animal commonly enjoyed as food and immediately offered it to the white devil in a generous act. imagine a hillbilly tackling a wild pig and offering to cook it up for you-- that would be an uncommonly generous thing to do for a stranger, even if we didn't want the animal killed for our benefit
It could be true. So what? Cats are useful for chasing rodents, it makes sense to let them multiply freely around a farming house and eat one from time to time. Although carnivores meat isn't so good and there ain't much to eat on a stray cat. So it could be false too. More people should watch the South Park episode about the Japanese hunting sea mammals. Including Bret and Heather.
@@thecollector6746 I get it. What got me flabbergasted was how she made up the story. I am from a region not far from the east African islands and I never heard of cat meat being a food source In Madagascar. The majority of people in Madagascar aren't Africans but Malay from South East Asian who settled on the island more than 2000 years ago and they themselves don't have history of cat meat consumption.
@@Epicfountain10 Google it they do but largely done as opportunistic.I live in Cape Town I'm going to ask my friend who lives in Madagascar wot part of a cat she likes.
lol "Bert Weisenheimer" would be the Looney Tunes version of Bret that Bugs Bunny would square off against if Dark Horse Podcast was a radio show in the 30's
Who cares where people eat meats that _we_ consider "inappropriate"? I'm a vegetarian and a dog trainer who dedicated my life to the well-being of dogs and cats. When I go to countries where they eat dogs, I don't think the people who do that are any less than people who eat pigs or octopus. Meat is meat. Who gives us the right to make moral distinctions?
@@ninjalectualx there's a whole country, one of the largest and most populous, in fact, that would consider those eating cow meat to be savages. so unless you think your reasoning and judgement is _better_ than an entire ethnicity/nation... well, there's a word for that.
It’s really all about the animals‘ living conditions. You put them into tiny boxes with low-grade food? Deprived of space to move and sunlight? THEN Imma judge the heck out of you. We eat less meat in this house. We try to buy meats that had a better life. This doesn’t always work out perfectly, naturally, but it’s a start.
Neither of them know anything about this, he said he’s agnostic and she stated she was unaware until she heard about it on the debate. Yet, their ignorance of the subject doesn’t stop them from running their mouths about the topic.
Because they're worthless soulless shills who can't just go on their platform made for them to speak their view and actually speak their real views. If they said we don't know anything about this it'd come off like a bad look for them in their far right lunatic audience. It's pathetic really.
why is the idea of eating cat or dog meat more distasteful than eating beef? As a cat owner, obviously I would be horrified if someone tried to eat MY cat, but the way animals are defined as pets or protein sources in different cultures is completely arbitrary.
Just a reminder: Brett and Heather were professors at a small, unknown liberal arts college before he went on Tucker Carlson's show to air an internal debate about their institution's "day of absence" observance. In a completely rational and defensible move, Brett sought a solution to a workplace disagreement in Tucker's sage advice. And now he and Heather are applying that same sober, staid approach to news stories on their podcast. You know, totally normal stuff.
I actually attended high school football camp at that particular college. It was a decade before Brett went crying to Joe Rogan but I visited nonetheless. Evergreen state college.
The 2017 years graduating class was greeted by death threats and had to move the location to an safe space thanks to his "storytime" with Tucker/Rogan and his fame seeking. He could have just held class in one of the many nearby state parks during the day of absence since he is trained in biology. His damage to that college is still being felt, a college by the way that trains mostly teachers, social workers and community organizers.
Maybe not so much known now, but when I went there in the late 90s Evergreen was (weirdly) highly regarded. Regularly in the top 10 colleges by US News & World Report Magazine... (which is a very old timey thing to say). In state it was known of as the hippy stoner college.... which it was. It was a great school, with no grades, no requirements, all evalutions. My transcript is like 30 pages thick. Lots of independent learning contracts & self directed students. Learned critical thinking above all, had some great professors. I remember thinking to myself how ironic the annual "Day of Absence" was primarily because the demographics of the college were blindingly white. Like 95% white or something. So weird that this dude is the fallout from all that.
@@ericbray4286 Brett claims the death threats were to him as well. Also the threats occurred before his appearance on jre. I didn't even know about his tucker appearance
I detect a theme here. Conservatives: “You can’t allow people to buy marijuana, because they’re illegal drugs! You can’t allow illegal camping by homeless people in cities where it is legal to do that! You can’t allow illegal migrants to live here just by writing some laws to allow them to live here [to paraphrase a thing that JD Vance said recently]!”
One suspects the woman in Madagascar was saying "get away from my cat or I will re-arrange your face with my frying pan. Fluffy is a valued member of our household". But with the clip it is like two idiots talking in a bar. Aren't these people meant to be educated or something
When you're in Madagascar and the weird lady both wants and doesn't want to kill and cook the cat for you and you're playing chess on your phone: Quantum chess. Traps abound.
Bret or Eric every time: “Here are our deep brain super smart models and concepts of the world and how things work… and that is why trans and woke people are bad!” 😂
As a vegan I apologize for comparing eating farm animals to eating cats and dogs. There is no real moral difference between the two, but it seems like people are too dumb to see that.
@@ninjalectualx Yeah, the same plane as humans. Well, unless you believe in Jesus or something. Science has proven solidly that all those creatures and probably some bugs are sentient. Cows and chickens can certainly behave in much the same way as cats and dogs when shown affection they just aren't as cute.
@@thecollector6746 Did you know that bees probably invented democracy. It's how they choose where to move if an original hive becomes overcrowded or destroyed. A great example of individual and collective intelligence.
White People Self Important Podcast Studio, imagine how beautiful the room would smell after a bean burrito buffet lunch, like absolute rose petals. They are the most thought provoking people they have ever met.
Weinstein calls himself left leaning. Based on his last couple years of rhetoric, I'd have to conclude the students at Evergreen may have been at least partly correct.
So this woman expects us to believe that she was petting a cat and that someone come out and chased her with a frying pan offering to cook the cat for her. Was she trespassing when this happened? I think she may have misread the situation. Edit: wtf she back peddled immediately after
You know, if Bret believes in Occam's Razor he should probably stop and think about which explanation is simpler for the proliferation of ridiculous stories like these: on the one hand, we have the possibility that they are elaborate traps set by Democrat operatives to trick mildly popular online intellectuals such as himself into promoting them and looking foolish. On the other hand, there is the possibility that a lot of Republican supporters aren't very smart or discriminating, so share easily debunked stories based on nothing. One of these theories, to me, requires far fewer moving parts and also seems to be supported by a lot of other observable evidence.
@JPH1138 Or there's a 3rd possibility: the Haitians themselves planted this fake story to demonstrate how easy it is to dupe racists into believing the most absurd things about non-white migrants.
I stopped watching long back. EVERY story/topic is prefaced by the disclaimer that they haven't looked into it (usually by Heather). While I appreciate the honesty, why have a podcast? Research it, then discuss. Or don't discuss at all
Stoogestein....urggg ....is he still blaming Carol for stealing his Nobel Prize😂 I seriously don't know who is the worst.... Jordan Xanaxsen, Tim Foolkovsky, Dave Rubinovsky, Jimmy Dore etc.... Hard choices....but the Stoogestein brothers are high in the "Dumb as Hell Champions League" table...
It's the Democrats fault if Trump trips over a stick and faceplants. Did the Democrats put the stick there? maybe..... But they definitely created the conditions for the stick to exist at that particular location 🤯
There's actually some scientific research by public health experts and anthropologists on villag s with reported cat consumption in Madagascar. The major point is that rural Malagasy sometimes resort to consuming cats due to food insecurity There were few other sources of protein, even bushmeat. tBut the cases were rare. About one third of persons in the sampled rural villages reported eating cat sometime in their lifetime. even then, with he consumption amongst those that had eaten cat being unusual ~with a median of 2.5 instances of consuming cats over their lifetime. Most respondants of those who had eaten cat had not consumed that meat in over 7.5 years. Cats were not stolen...having been either a family cat, a gifted cat, or, on occasion, an already dead cat. So even if Madascans immigrate to the USA there is unlikely to be an epidemic of feline gastronomy breaking out.
@gerrelldrawhorn8975 Thanks for doing the research. The myth that cats are a staple of the Madagascan or Haitian diet is a racist concoction, based on the perception that Third World people ("The Other") are generally uncivilized, primitive and even subhuman. White racists never stop to consider that impoverished, malnourished Black natives may sometimes resort to eating cats or dogs when there's a scarcity of protein sources available to them. The idea that Haitian immigrants are stealing domestic cats and cooking them up for dinner (you know, those Haitians like the taste of cat meat!) is absurd on its face. And the fact that this hogwash was twisted into a political talking point by Trump, Vance and the rightwing media, as though it were true, is despicable.
Also worth pointing out that the idea that eating cats & dogs is somehow "uncivilized" is culturally supremacist world view in of itself, since there is no actual difference between those animals & the 1s we eat for meat, we just view it differently because of our culture
"Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breath free" "they're eating the dogs, they're eating the cats, they're eating the pets of the people who live there" the duality of the great American ideal
Not only they called their families to work, but they called their friends to come work at their factory because their boss asked them to. They come to work on time, they work hard and don’t miss work. It’s a win win.
What are the chances that that lady in Madagascar saw Heather and thought to herself: "I can't believe I'm even considering doing this to Sprinkles, but that lady looks French. I believe they eat cats there....here goes nothing"
My main thing with all of this is that: if there are real problems there, like people don't know how to drive, then address that and get that solved instead of talking about crazy shit.
