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Bretonnia In Depth Guide! TW3 Immortal Empires 

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An In-Depth guide to Bretonnia including how to play, economy, technology, starting locations and lords! Made to try to help people skip 40+ hours of learning!
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0:00 Intro
1:01 Faction Concepts/How they play
11:33 Units
30:42 Economy
39:55 Technology
53:09 Louen Leoncoeur Start
1:13:19 Fay Enchantress Start
1:26:04 Alberic Start
1:35:13 Repanse Start

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@Arachanoid98
@Arachanoid98 Год назад
My favorite faction a couple things I want to go ahead and say. Bretonnia doesn't have to worry about supply lines, they have an insanely strong economy basically every settlement build both a farm and a windmill building. You shouldn't ever dip too much into your peasant economy and mid to late game your entire army should be straight knights. Early game I like to just recruit just straight Knight of the Realm and spam them later on you can upgrade to Questing Knights then Grail Knights. Remember to do your vows, I cannot stress that enough, best thing to do is recruit a lord and have him shadow your main army to collect experience and complete vow quests. Regarding their cavalry units they are very strong, key thing with battles is use your speed to your advantage and pick your engagements, the enemy can't catch you so stay on the move (this goes double for those with the Perfect Vigor trait) and pick off priority targets, focus on artillery, then fast units, then ranged, then finally ending with melee infantry.
@LordForwind
@LordForwind Год назад
Very good advice!
@maddogs1989
@maddogs1989 Год назад
I mean if you want to just build cheese armies you can do this. I literally play on very hard with the peasant men at arms with shields well into the late game with no more then 6 cav units and barely have an issue and that's only using Knights of the Realm and standard Pegasus Knights. Bretonnia plays very good doing the tactic that they actually use in lore. Men at arm fronts, backed up by Bowmen and trebuchets. Knights on the flanks and encircling the enemy when or attacking the enemy flanks forcing the attacking army to divert troops to deal with the cav. Knights of the Realm when stated up under a bretonnia lord, building buffs and research done beat all other horse Cavalry in the game.
@randomusernameCallin
@randomusernameCallin Год назад
@@maddogs1989 I realy heavily on a pocket when I play with clavery. I would not have survived when some like four armies attack mine with out it.
@maddogs1989
@maddogs1989 Год назад
@@randomusernameCallin Bud I've been attacked by 3 armies with the cav the way I said and had zero issues
@ZeriocTheTank
@ZeriocTheTank 6 месяцев назад
​@@maddogs1989This is how I prefer to play myself. Doomstacks are boring. Even if I suffer as a consequence.
@waitbalthy6342
@waitbalthy6342 Год назад
These guides are so good man, can’t tell you how much I enjoy watching them! This game is really mechanic heavy and I’d be lost without them. Having a blast playing a campaign with Cathay, next will be bretonia to break with Cathay’s defensive play style. You earned a like and a sub
@LordForwind
@LordForwind Год назад
Ty, glad to help
@Yuuretsu
@Yuuretsu Год назад
Somehow I'd never noticed Paladins giving a ward save bonus to nearby Lords and Heroes despite playing Bretonnia since Warhammer 2. Goes to show you can teach an old dog new tricks after all. Thanks for the video.
@LordForwind
@LordForwind Год назад
Glad to help! Hope that helps you keep lords alive more!
@shaunsmith4747
@shaunsmith4747 Год назад
What a gem of the channel, currently setting myself a challenge to play through all factions alphabetically. Just a way of getting myself out of only playing Empire, High Elves and Skaven. I have 1000 hours in TW2 and didn't do half the races. These guides are perfect my friends. What puts me off is that it can take a few restarts to learn all the ins and outs of factions.
@LordForwind
@LordForwind Год назад
Yeah it's part of the reason I did the guides my friends were complaining about having to restart over and over
@thebrokenmask8304
@thebrokenmask8304 Год назад
I feel like bretonnia is underated. While I dont often play them I always enjoy their mid/late game campaign. Once you pop off you pop off HARD.
@LordForwind
@LordForwind Год назад
They are just lacking in interesting stuff but are strong, kind of like lizardmen!
@GraveGhoul04
@GraveGhoul04 Год назад
I’ll definitely be taking this advice. I’d also love to see a dark elf video in the future! Keep up the good work
@LordForwind
@LordForwind Год назад
Plan is for dark elves tomorrow probably!
@michaelmorton6566
@michaelmorton6566 6 месяцев назад
Alberic should be given the Ship Building Mechanics and his Quests and Victory Conditions should be to wipe out the Vampire Coast Factions
@LordForwind
@LordForwind 6 месяцев назад
That would be a good change especially since he desperately needs a rework of something
@jansandman6983
@jansandman6983 Год назад
I like ur guides man, it's so informative
@LordForwind
@LordForwind Год назад
Glad to hear!
@davidfinch7407
@davidfinch7407 Год назад
I got so good with Bretonnia in WH2 it got boring. So I tried WH3...there was a full stack of Orcs, Undead, and stack of Chaos with advanced units all attacking within a few turns. It seemed impossible to hold on to two cities, let alone think about expanding. Going to try again now.
@LordForwind
@LordForwind Год назад
It's rough you need to defend at lot at times.
@primedknight5906
@primedknight5906 Год назад
Yes, been waiting for this one. For the Lady.
@LordForwind
@LordForwind Год назад
If only the knew she was elven...
@berthold64
@berthold64 Год назад
Finally indepth guide, been a while I played the Brets
@LordForwind
@LordForwind Год назад
Glad to help!
@dukenukem4447
@dukenukem4447 Год назад
The timing on this video is perfect as I was just thinking to myself it's time to learn how to play those silly sounding fridge magnet cosplayers who live next to the Empire. Thanks for taking the time to make this and sharing it with us, I look forward to honoring ze lady! *incomprehensiblefrenchhonking*
@LordForwind
@LordForwind Год назад
Happy to help! Good luck and learn to love heavy cav!
@seb35c5
@seb35c5 Год назад
Really helpful, thank you
@LordForwind
@LordForwind Год назад
Glad to hear it! Enjoy some heroic charges!
@darthtom100
@darthtom100 Год назад
I've been waiting for this one! I like your video formats but Bretonnia and Vampire Coast are the only races I haven't ever been able to get into.
@LordForwind
@LordForwind Год назад
Glad to help!
@Serrrdel
@Serrrdel Год назад
Love ur vids pls keep em comin
@LordForwind
@LordForwind Год назад
Will do, planning to do every faction!
@MrDavis-oz6uw
@MrDavis-oz6uw Год назад
This was a good and helpful video
@LordForwind
@LordForwind Год назад
Glad to help
@MrFunkhouser
@MrFunkhouser Год назад
So I started watching some of the other guides. First off, you are amazing. Secondly, I came back to this one because I've always really liked Brettonia, But I've always done terrible. And part of it is because I always try to unify bertonia first. Then always go for lightning strikes and I try to expand way too quickly. So I really appreciate your time going through all the stuff and then sharing your opinions and whatnot on the different units because I was going in a completely different way and what you said makes sense. I was always building them like a traditional army. I would just maybe have like five or six Calvary versus the two or three that I normally keep.
@LordForwind
@LordForwind Год назад
Still doing it a bit wrong, try 10+ cav or even full cav
@MrFunkhouser
@MrFunkhouser Год назад
@@LordForwind when I start my new campaign I'm going to look at doing that and just doing primarily Calvary with some artillery... I think this may explain though why I've never done good with them. But I also didn't know a lot about the physical resistance and the bonus to that and some of the stuff. Do you have a video where you talk about armor and how that works And what armor and shielded means? And all that kind of stuff? I mean a lot of it's probably pretty straightforward but like if I have the choice to choose between plus four armor or plus for weapon strength or whatever. I have no idea which one to do. With this said I have hundreds of hours into the game and I still don't even know half of what I'm doing. :p
@MrFunkhouser
@MrFunkhouser Год назад
These are all just sandbox mostly without mods and mortal/immortal with 2-3: WH: 32 hrs. WH 2: 776 hrs. WH 3: 74 hrs. Now some of those hours I left the game running overnight accidentally, And then oftentimes I'll have the game playing and then in between turns I'll go and do like other things like if I'm writing or whatever.
@LordForwind
@LordForwind Год назад
@@MrFunkhouser I passed grad school with tw2 turn length allowing for doing work during them
@LordForwind
@LordForwind Год назад
I dont have a video around that stuff, people who understand it more than me have already done better videos. But off hand get melee defense over attack or weapon strength, it makes your units get hit less which is usually more important than hitting or doing more dmg if you hit. Its why some lords are combat oriented over others. All the resistances reduce any dmg taken by a%, which is why ward save is nuts since it applies to all dmg. Armor is good to get since it reduces dmg take on each hit but once you get above 100 or so, its less useful especially if you are fighting enemies with magic attacks, who ignore armor or physical resistance. Early on though and vs normal enemies its amazing.
@SpiritStoneWarrior94-yx3gs
@SpiritStoneWarrior94-yx3gs 6 месяцев назад
Im super excited for when my first ever PC arrives, as i bought all the Total Warhammer games in the most recent winter sale for steam!! Im thinking either Bretonnia, Wood Elves, Norsca or Azazel/Valkia as my forat proper campaign
@LordForwind
@LordForwind 6 месяцев назад
I'd recommend the dwarfs as your first game until you get used to all the systems. Cathay or lizardmen are also good ones to start with. Brit has a very slow start, wood elves are completely different from all other factions, Norsca is hard, warriors of chaos again play very differently than the other factions.
@borolf
@borolf Год назад
nice guide
@LordForwind
@LordForwind Год назад
Thanks! Hopefully it helped you!
@hybralisk
@hybralisk Год назад
Ah, you forgot to mention the Battle Pilgrims! Don't worry, CA forgot to add their card icon to the building they'd be recruited from. They are worth mentioning if you ever get a chance to, I enjoy having a couple of them kicking around for fun. :) *edit* whoops, I kept watching and you remembered to cover them later during the tech section. Sorry for commenting too early! XD
@LordForwind
@LordForwind Год назад
Nah, it's okay. I felt dumb missing them.
@mrlillian1
@mrlillian1 Год назад
Nice job mate, hope it's Norsca next
@LordForwind
@LordForwind Год назад
Soon hopefully
@cHaMp630
@cHaMp630 Год назад
My strategy with bretonnia goes something like; Have 4 lords sticking together to boost chivalry income and blob the ai in battle to get destroyed, spam archers + catapults in 1 or 2 of those armies, skip every non peasant archer / catapult unit and then spam hippogryphs or flying paladins late game with healing support.
@LordForwind
@LordForwind Год назад
yep thats Britonnia in a nutshell!
@stoxx399
@stoxx399 6 месяцев назад
Great guide! I went from getting crushed even though I cheated infinite money to conquering bretonia easy without cheating. Now I only need to figure out how to Safe the completely crushed empire from counts and Norma 😂
@LordForwind
@LordForwind 6 месяцев назад
The passes are really good for delay invasions.
@bigthoughts2644
@bigthoughts2644 Год назад
For the bretonnian industry a little trick is to grow it then demolish the windmill or the storage whatever. This will leave the settlement with a Tier 3 farm or industry building. Not 50% buffed but double its tier one production
@LordForwind
@LordForwind Год назад
cool!
@bri3182
@bri3182 Год назад
Reason why the Confed tree seems off is because you get plus 50% income from ports for Louann so it encourages you travel down the coast first then get the inner continent. Also for confederation you can spend 700 chivalry 5000 gold or do nothing and get 300 chivalry.
@LordForwind
@LordForwind Год назад
Yeah it's odd to say the least.
@chrisbergonzi7977
@chrisbergonzi7977 Год назад
In TWW2 the recipe was build farms in every minor settlement except Gold or Iron resource settlements. In those, you use industry. Is that still the case? Great stuff man...scribed up...thanks.
@LordForwind
@LordForwind Год назад
Cool, thanks. If you want money you can just use farms, industry in gold or iron isnt a requirement anymore. Overall I just tend to use industry most of the time myself.
@chrisbergonzi7977
@chrisbergonzi7977 Год назад
@@LordForwind thanks pal...
@jasondoherty7497
@jasondoherty7497 Год назад
In future is it possible to talk about which factions to build outposts in would be most beneficial to there play style or bonuses, also would you do guides for mods whether for warhammer 3 or imperator Rome those imperator Rome guides really helped me when starting the game in vanilla and modded
@LordForwind
@LordForwind Год назад
I might do a guide at the end for good outpost allies, but I find usually its hard to control that for most of the game and any ally you get has decent units to recruit from. I am open to do guides/reviews of mods, if you have any to recommend let me know. I'll probably do some on the TW3 Grimhammer mod once it is a bit more developed.
@jasondoherty7497
@jasondoherty7497 Год назад
@@LordForwind I would say the Terra indomita mod for imperator Rome
@LordForwind
@LordForwind Год назад
@@jasondoherty7497 downloading it to check it out.
@JayJay-wf2oe
@JayJay-wf2oe Год назад
I think building farms is way better because the farm line not only provides growth but also unlocks recruitment of peasant bowmen which is the ONLY decent peasant unit for their worth. Yes with farms you need to be careful with the peasant cap, but without farms and peasant bowmen what's the point of removing peasant caps anyway when regular peasant infantries are just useless? Regardless, awesome guide, definitely one of the best quality around.
@LordForwind
@LordForwind Год назад
Its just personal preference. I usually do at least one province with farms to get the bowman but you want the main recruitment center to be workshops for the training bonus
@phaeral7507
@phaeral7507 Год назад
I saw on my trials that with all the technologies boosts, which are better for industries than for farms, you will get with the industry near the equivalent amount of gold with the farms (50 to 100 € of gold), but it's a long term investment (and at the end of the game you needn't growth, the other bonuses are better).
@psychedellictoxin1195
@psychedellictoxin1195 Год назад
What's not mentioned with the blessed field trebuchet is that it has no friendly fire.
@LordForwind
@LordForwind Год назад
Yep.
@MrFunkhouser
@MrFunkhouser Год назад
Thank you for posting this. If you've played the Grand Cathey, do you think bertonia would be better or worse having a peasant system like what they have where you're able to take things to make the peasants better and better over time but still keep the peasant economy features
@LordForwind
@LordForwind Год назад
Glad to help! Yes I have done GC and even done a guide on them. Maybe? but as far as I understand it, that mechanic is straight from the tabletop game (never played myself) so I doubt it. I kind of like the weak peasants but I think they need a dismounted knight unit though or even a ranged cav knight units. Historically most knight knew how to use bows!
@MrFunkhouser
@MrFunkhouser Год назад
@@LordForwind ooo! I need to watch the guide on them. This is the first video of yours I've watched, very helpful!!
@LordForwind
@LordForwind Год назад
@@MrFunkhouser Great to have you join us then! Enjoy!
@impg8801
@impg8801 11 месяцев назад
Appreciate the video, helped a lot. Heard they reworked the faction, so is there an info here thats irrelevant now?
@LordForwind
@LordForwind 11 месяцев назад
Not immensely, the changes weren't massive. Peasants get leadership near knights, some knights numbers changed etc. Nothing guide breaking.
@impg8801
@impg8801 11 месяцев назад
@@LordForwind Bet, thanks!
@impg8801
@impg8801 11 месяцев назад
@@LordForwind Bet, thanks!
@kevinharvey9500
@kevinharvey9500 Год назад
When I confederate with the other bretonian faction with repanse I had to disband a ton of units. Is this the strategy you would've done? It was badly hurting my economy. I still really didn't have the income to support 2 full armies. What's your input on that? I always enjoy your opinion.
@LordForwind
@LordForwind Год назад
It happens especially if you are using too many peasants. But also because each faction has a default income regardless of land so a minor faction with 1 province will be more profitable than another owning 2 provinces. Its just a normal issue, I tend to delay confederations so I dont have money issues until im built up more.
@kevinharvey9500
@kevinharvey9500 Год назад
@@LordForwind yea the confederated faction had a full stack plus they were building another that's why I had to disband most of their army just to stabilize my economy, and get the peasants under control
@kevinharvey9500
@kevinharvey9500 Год назад
The issue with bretonnia is that until you complete the grail vow the upkeep even for knights errant is like 500 something maybe?
@LordForwind
@LordForwind Год назад
Yeah it's rough but you have to take it early to get units capable of fighting
@kevinharvey9500
@kevinharvey9500 Год назад
@@LordForwind yea I love steam rolling with an army 3/4 cav
@LordForwind
@LordForwind Год назад
@@kevinharvey9500 it's super fun!
@YukonJack88
@YukonJack88 Год назад
The reason I don't play Cav armies, is because of how they actual game play seems broken. Have you actually tried to extract your charged cav out of a blob? Enemies stick to your horses as they move out and away to get fully clear to setup another charge. Shit on a blank...... Running a full cav army seems daunting if you want to get off charge bonuses... Or have I missed something? I'd love to get feedback on this..
@LordForwind
@LordForwind Год назад
Keep clicking with the unit and they will pull out.
@kevinharvey9500
@kevinharvey9500 Год назад
In my campaigns with fay the enchantress the wood elves become my most powerful enemy. They are relentless in trying to take my settlements from me, and have even caused me to abandon one of my campaigns. Is this something you've experienced?
@LordForwind
@LordForwind Год назад
It can happen, try researching the tech that improves relations with them and they should calm down.
@kevinharvey9500
@kevinharvey9500 Год назад
@@LordForwindI remember now....I attacked one of their settlements while we were at peace....yea that's what started it. My new campaign is doing much better. We still have a strong alliance, and we've been fending off attacks from beastmen and skaven. They may still someday attack me and break it.
@LordForwind
@LordForwind Год назад
@@kevinharvey9500 yeah avoid attacking the elves, its not even that they are a pain to fight, you get almost nothing for it except an annoyingly persistent enemy
@m1sterSunshine
@m1sterSunshine Год назад
Bretonnia not being able to channel winds of magic is unfortunate as well.
@LordForwind
@LordForwind Год назад
yeah it hurts them
@hihi2667
@hihi2667 Год назад
anyone know why bretonnian generic lords have a red/black color scheme as Couronne?
@LordForwind
@LordForwind Год назад
nope
@Icesong
@Icesong Год назад
Your description talks about High Elves.
@LordForwind
@LordForwind Год назад
ooops thats wrong, thanks it didnt save my changes
@brysonstevens1431
@brysonstevens1431 Год назад
I like Bretonia, but man early game is rough.
@LordForwind
@LordForwind Год назад
Yep, slow building faction but strong once you get past it.
@wellimagamer8848
@wellimagamer8848 2 месяца назад
How do I get bretonnia. i have warhammer 3 but i dont have warhammer 1 so i cant download the DLC. how do i get it for warhammer 3
@LordForwind
@LordForwind 2 месяца назад
You have to buy one to get it
@kenpatchiramasama1076
@kenpatchiramasama1076 Год назад
Also not to mention that like 99% of the bretonnian minor facs also die to Mousillon and Grom within a few turns lol
@LordForwind
@LordForwind Год назад
Yeah they need a buff, even starting level 2 with a garrison building would help!
@kevinharvey9500
@kevinharvey9500 Год назад
Yea repanse was the first campaign I've ever lost in total war history, and you just acted like she was easy to use lol. I can't seem to use the early peasant units.....they fight for 2 seconds then route. I have no idea how to fight battles with them. I know their a calvary nation, but even early on the cav units route too. I'm assuming it's the fear caused by vampiric units and undead. I got hit continuously by tombkings and vampires until they finished me off, and this was on normal lol. I literally was attacked 5 times in one turn.
@LordForwind
@LordForwind Год назад
Peasant units are distractions. Just charge over and over with knight units, winning as her early is super easy. Just don't slow down until both of your initial enemies are dead. I wish I could help more but it's easy even on high level difficulties.
@kevinharvey9500
@kevinharvey9500 Год назад
@@LordForwind you're the first person I've heard say she's easy. Bretonnia was listed ad one of the most difficult factions to play, or it was on the a video I watched yesterday....I do know repanse is a beast tho
@LordForwind
@LordForwind Год назад
@@kevinharvey9500 I sometimes have issue with the other Britonnians, but never Repanse, so .... yeah?
@LandofMert76
@LandofMert76 Год назад
Too many limiting mechanics for me to deal with. thanks for the guide
@LordForwind
@LordForwind Год назад
Yep np, they are totally in line for a rework and hopefully it will improve them!
@LandofMert76
@LandofMert76 Год назад
@@LordForwind and I thought Cathay was a pain.
@LordForwind
@LordForwind Год назад
@@LandofMert76 nope cathay is relatively easy compared to some other factions
@blairdurward4324
@blairdurward4324 Год назад
Peasent bowman are good because of the battle of agincourt, the whole of Bretonnia is made of harasses, just some of them are ugly and stupid, still killing machines though lol.
@LordForwind
@LordForwind Год назад
Agincourt is super interesting to read about, in game that strength makes some sense
@thehonestaspy102
@thehonestaspy102 Год назад
Step 1: Never play Bretonia 😂 I love your guides but until Bretonia get some solid foot or a dismount toggle they just aren't worth playing imo
@LordForwind
@LordForwind Год назад
Legit anti bretonnia strat. But I highly doubt they will change military much in a rework.
@berthold64
@berthold64 Год назад
You use lords and paladins if you hate micros. It's literally ctrl+a and right click on enemy
@LordForwind
@LordForwind Год назад
@@berthold64 basically
@ethanv8679
@ethanv8679 Год назад
please stop saying halebards... pleaseeee (HALLLBIRDSS)
@LordForwind
@LordForwind Год назад
Halebards forever!
@anothertarnishedone5960
@anothertarnishedone5960 Год назад
Imho, Bretonnia needs a rework. Has been almost the same faction since the first game, and is boring.
@LordForwind
@LordForwind Год назад
Yep, still strong though!
@HeezyHaskew
@HeezyHaskew Год назад
How to play Bretonnia... don't.
@LordForwind
@LordForwind Год назад
Or do and love the cavalry
@HeezyHaskew
@HeezyHaskew Год назад
@@LordForwind Can't play with the awesome cavalry until you accomplish the boring vows with nothing but peasants which are worse than zombies and you can't even spam them since they're limited by number of farms. Bretonnia early game is so boring, slow, and un-fun
@LordForwind
@LordForwind Год назад
@@HeezyHaskew your legendary lords can use good cav at the start so its not that limiting
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