Breya has reshaped my previous 5-color artifacts commander deck into something better. This deck is full of fun synergies and flexible gameplay. Enjoy! Decklist on TappedOut: tappedout.net/m... Music: Solar Flares by Silent Partner
My first edh deck was daretti and almost top 8’ed a modern GP with affinity. Suffice it to say that I love artifacts! This deck tech is awesome. I also love your channel, your enthusiasm and contribution to the format is amazing so thank you! Keep up the good work!
no mycosynth lattice in this deck is blasphemy. you could steal any permanent with dack fayden. play hellkite tyrant, hit someone with it and steal that player's board and most likely win next turn. overloaded vandalblast? apocalypse everyone but you.
Sounds fun! Hellkite Tyrant is an amazing way to win a game love the idea! But I feel that would only work if you play 1v1 and have absurd amounts of mana (although I admit this deck has no issues producing colorless mana). With this deck you'll most likely hit a combo sooner since not only do they cost less and you can tutor for all pieces required, but Hellkite Tyrant is NOT tutor-able even with lattice out, and is a waste of a card slot when drawn early game as well (not to mention easily countered or kill carded, also does NOT have haste! you'll turn a lot of heads when you have a win con sitting for a whole turn )
Alright, this is where you all turn on me ... many have mentioned Saheeli Rai and I want to explain why I don't think she is very good in this deck or in most commander strategies. Planeswalkers have a higher barrier to entry in multiplayer formats because they are vulnerable over multiple opponents' turns. This is not to say that planeswalkers are bad but they can see a reduction in power level. Planeswalkers can have a weaker +1 and still be powerful so I will not be overly critical of Saheeli's. Her +1 ( Scry 1. Saheeli Rai deals 1 damage to each opponent.) is card selection and incidental damage ... sounds OK. I probably wouldn't pay 1RU for a sorcery spell that said scry 3 and 3 damage to a player. It's like a harder to cast and less flexible big magma jet, gross. But I should not spend time criticizing the +1 because no one is claiming that it is powerful. The minus ability is usually the instant payoff for a planeswalker. They can draw you cards, create a creature, kill something, basically give you a tangible advantage. Saheeli's -2 (Create a token that's a copy of target artifact or creature you control, except it's an artifact in addition to its other types. That token gains haste. Exile it at the beginning of the next end step.) Making another creature with an ETB effect is awesome. I have dreams of making a Myr Battlesphere or a Combustible Gearhulk. It sucks that the creature has to exile itself at the end of turn and I hate that I can't copy an opponent's creature. Why should I settle for these limitations when the classic clones in commander stick around and can copy any threat on the table. Phyrexian Metamorph, Clever Impersonator, Stunt Double, Dack's Duplicate, Phantasmal Image, Rite of Replication, Stolen Identity (a favorite), Altered Ego, and even Saheeli's Artistry. All of these cards have a little different niche that give our clone effects some flavor. I see these cards at commander tables. Do you see commander players clamoring to play twinflame and heat shimmer? I like the -2 but I'm not willing to pay 1RU for it. I don't feel like I can reliably activate the -2 more than once if I have anything good on the battlefield to copy. She is very vulnerable and inflexible. That is a bad combination in commander. Saheeli can be powerful if you abuse her. Her ultimate is game winning. That should not be overlooked. You can also combo off with her. You can liquimetal coating her into an artifact, copy herself, legend rule the original, then make infinite copies of the now artifact-ed walker, winning with a disciple of the vault. That sounds AWESOME. I would do that. But this interaction is so narrow and corner case. Please test her and tell me how she performs. Just remember that when you test a card be really critical of how it performs in all situations. Get out those pitchforks ... tell me what you think!
Jumbo Commander Point well made. I think you can jam her in if you have open slots in the deck or if you really really want to cram as many win combos as you can.
Good point. I'm cutting her from my deck now. She's good, but I hardly use her in the first place. I wish you could flip her first two abilities and the symbols in front of them. +2 to create a token is way better but I guess we won't be seeing that for artifacts for a long time, if ever.
Jumbo Commander - @11:25 you go on and on about a bunch of hopps to jump through for a janky combo, then write what you did above? If we are going balls to the wall combo, then we should have seen Bomberman combo by now or something better than what you are showing at 11:25.
Omg someone who knows about bitter ordeal;u; your are truly the first person I know who knows about that card.lol I play it in my mill deck I'll usually mill for 15 then rip lands out of someone's library, it can mana screw them but more importantly all those cards that mill till they hit a land, far Better when there are only a few lands left lol Btw sir this deck seems fun and strong I will probably be trying it out lol
It's so cool right?!?! I love that it is the only card with Gravestorm. I'm also a fan of Sadistic Sacrament. Maybe I take too much joy out of neutering combo decks and color screwing greedy mana bases?
So mill doesnt work with bitter ordeal, unfortunately. Permanents must be not card type but actual permanents on the battlefield which enter into the graveyard. This is how gravestorm works.
I think this is quietly the strongest commander to come out of this product and she will be underrated for a while. Breya is the new Tasigur, imo. Her ability is good, but a little overcosted... until you have infinite stuff to work with then you just win straight outta the command zone. There are a few combos I noticed you missing that might work well for her (I'm testing these): Pili-Pala + Grand Architect - infinite colored mana Animate Dead + Worldgorger Dragon - with Breya on the field you can just stack the loop and kill everyone and everything Since Breya can sacrifice herself any infinite mana loop with colored mana should be enough to finish a game.
Fr artifacts mana ramp naturally and you can spam her 2, it doesn't tap. Letting you kill big creatures, players with very high dmg, or gain tons of health. She's very good
I love this commander. Although I am stuck with the struggle of affording many of the key cards to build a full combo deck. I currently run a interesting breya that uses combos to end people. But to give me time I have nasty amounts of thopters to trigger things like sharding sphinx. I am able to do what I always wanted to do, go wider than anyone with artifacts that fly. So much fun.
I have been impressed at how relevant Breya is with blockers and -4/-4. It's a nice bit of control to stall until you get the combo off. I don't run ALL the possible combos in my personal version and I think I prefer it. Good luck tinkering!
"Johnny" EDH players know Breya is good. I had artifact shenanigans in my Ashling the Pilgrim deck. Being mono red, it doesn't get there consistently. Having access to blue is a huge advantage. Not to mention black and white.
This has to be one of my favorite deck tech's that you have done. I've been thinking about making a Breya EDH deck and this just put me over the top. You've given me a great start to the deck. Can't wait to finish it and test it out. Thanks, DJ!!!!
I dislike playing Blightsteel Colossus because it is, honestly, a no-fun-zone card. Blightsteel is a card that comes out and suddenly nobody is enjoying playing with your deck anymore, and to me, Commander is all about having fun, and if the table isn't enjoying themselves then it's a wasted effort. So I run the original Darksteel Colossus instead. It's still a great beatstick but it doesn't immediately pin you as "that-asshole-with-the-artifact-deck", and overall is just a much less toxic card in general. Of course this varies by play group, but I feel like that's the majority of groups I've been in and observed.
Great observation and suggestion for replacement. I like your "playgroup dependant" phrase too. Thanks for the great comment! Plus Darksteel Colossus almost looks like a cute giant monster; I'd be friends with that golem.
Dear god... I am so not a combo player. It was fun hearing you get stoked for Breya though. I think I'll stick with my grindy, midrangey Atraxa deck. Hahah
you only need to do 21 damage with breya's lighning bolt ability since its commander damage. thats only 7 activations which is pretty easy in your build. btw super good way to get around pillow fort decks.
Pillowfort strategies are very popular in my meta so I think Breya may be a good answer. Unfortunately, commander damage is only calculated as combat damage but I still think the bolt ability is relevant damage.
It basically comes down to when something triggers and when the trigger is put on the stack can be different times. Targets are declared when the effect it put on the stack. Combined with the above and you'll see that we cast the clone, it resolves and it's ability triggers. Normally you (the active player) would gain priority and the trigger would be put on the stack (requiring a target) but State Based Actions are checked right before any player gets priority and makes you put one of the Sharuums into the graveyard. After that's taken care of SBAs check for any other state based action shenanigans that might have arisen from the previous corrective action. When that's all done, you get priority, which is when the trigger goes on the stack, and now that Sharuum is in the graveyard she's a legal target. She's a tricky girl! She does love a good selfie. :)
Hey friend. Just picked up 2XM, working on building my own Breya deck. Is there any chance you'd consider a vid updating this deck considering how many new cards have been released since you made this vid? Or would you just keep it the way it is? Regardless, thanks for this amazing vid! I'm definitely going to follow your template (but... I'm gonna modify it so that it doesn't cost FOUR THOUSAND DOLLARS 🤣🤣)
This is a sweet deck! Glad to see this video. However, I am very surprised not to see sharding sphinx. It creates exponential thopters that can be sacked or just win the game plus it has a hilarious name. Usually your opponents need a board "wipe" to deal with it! But This deck will definitely help me figure out what I should put in my deck. I think I am going to go a little less combo heavy because I already have a Arjun combo deck that is fun to play.
Of the 10 cards in magic that have mox in the name 7 are banned in commander (the 5 original single color moxen, jack-in-the-mox from unglued, and mox lotus from unhinged). Mox Diamond, Chrome Mox and Mox Opal are all legal in commander and can be very powerful.
Jumbo Commander :: This is a very interesting deck and I am loving it BIG time... Breya is my girl as well... There are so many that can be done with these 4 colors White - Destroy spells; Exile spells Blue - Counter spells; Copy spells; Duplicate spells; Draw spells Black - Reanimator spells; Destroy spells; Forcing opponent to sacrifice creature spells Red - Gives haste; Gives double strike Below are the combos available in this theme (I prefer combo than head-on aggro) - Token / Thopter / Servo generating combo - Eldrazi Displacer combo - Whirler Rogue combo - Thopter Spy Network - Hangarback Walker - Pia and Kiran - Avacyn - All gearhulk (except for green) - Turn all permanents on battlefield to Artifact and take control of them all combo - Turn all permanents on battlefield to Artifact and destroy all Artifact combo - Pick an opponent and turn one color of his / her basic land type to Artifact and destroy all from hand + battlefield + library combo (if that person is playing mono color, then that person can concede from the game) - Drain life & gain life 2-piece combo - Artifact recursion combo - Some Artifact base combo Kaladesh provides us with vehicles and energy counter producers that can be used to boost this deck too. Planeswalkers that might be a valuable add-on to enhance this deck further - Nahiri, the Harbinger - Saheeli Rai - Daretti, Scrap Savant - Daretti, Ingenious Iconoclast - Karn I can see tons of strategy in this deck and having Silas Renn is good too. I have the concept / idea (but due to the fact that i'm lack of knowledge of all the old cards, it kinda takes a different path) but will you be revisiting this Breya deck tech again after all the cards have been spoiled? The reason is because I believe most of us will just purchase the reconstructed deck and upgrade from there. On a separate note, I am totally intrigued with the idea of having 2 generals in my EDH deck (plus 98 cards). If you do not mind, maybe you can try to come up with a 2 generals type of deck tech... Personally, I'm interested with Silas Renn because he can bring back artifacts from graveyard and the idea of having a lot of token to swarm the board - maybe Tana, the Bloodsower. The deck should have 2 strategies that can be executed individually (if one of the strategies have been shut down - example: Grafdigger Cage or Rest in Peace will shutdown Silas Renn so Tana can continue to create tokens to attack) and also these 2 strategies must compliment each as well.
So I just recently pulled off this interesting combo for my Saturday magic day that I wanted to get opinions on, now this isn’t a game winning combo but it is game changing. This combo is prototype portal + sculpting steel. I ended up making 8 signets, 2 darksteel forge, and 3 unwinding clock before my opponents decided this needs to stop. I would have copied creatures but I only had legendary creatures on the field at the time. But what is everyone’s opinion? Because I never thought of it until I had both in my opening hand. What’s your opinion? And I’d love to hear your opinion jumbo commander.
Wild Guess and Tormenting Voice seem like they should be in there with Reunion. I actually prefer them over Looting. Additionally have you considering Feldon of the Third Path, or additionally any sort of blinking strategies that can abuse Breya for token generation.
Another Combo If I'm correct is Infinite Mana with sharuum and Ashnods Altar, Because You can sac Sharuum with her Trigger On the Stack and then bring her back with her Own trigger, if im correct.
Ive been running a Sharuum combo deck for a while now and I wanted to splash red for a while now. That being said Im not sure if i want to run breya. She's ok as a commander but idk if adding another color is worth losing the consistency that sharuum brings as a commander. Anyways why aren't you running metalworker and goblinwelder. They both are incredibly powerful and not as well know as powerful win cons.
liked and subbed. you have a good funny story telling voice and was very easy to follow. thanks for the great video and for the ideas! i just need $$$ first -.- lol.
I really like this build. It boils the essentials down to a few combos and gives really decent support to those combos. A couple of cards are outside my budget but its ok I'm a big boy i can fill in the blanks. Thanks much.
Dear Jumbo Commander, What are your thoughts on running Mycosynth Lattice in the deck? There are many synergies that you can pull off with the lattice. for example hurkyls recall and the lattice is a pretty devastating one.
I love the Lattice. I use it in Karn, Silver Golem to nuke opponents' lands but I'm a horrible person ... then again you were about to Hurkyl's Recall everything. We can be friends!
Your Sharuum loop doesn't work. You have to choose a target with the copy of Sharuum before the state based action puts the original Sharuum into your graveyard.
It's a tricky interaction and I'm glad you pointed it out for more explanation. I stole this from a previous post and slightly edited this answer from Vulpine (
Steve Leong Here is the initial list, though I've made some changes. Added Shimmer Myr, Time Sieve, and Thoptor Assembly. Removed Myr Battlesphere, Tezzy the Seeker, Scarecrone. Made a few other small changes.
Can you use Breya s abilities the turn she comes into play? I mean if I have infinite mana (Pili Pala + Grand Architect) can I use her own ability to sac her and a thopter to create infinite thopters to later sac to do infinite damage?
I'm not sure if the sculpting steel/Sharuum combo works because the ETB effect needs to choose a target as it goes onto the stack, before you sacrifice one or the other to the legendary rule.
esper has a lot to bring back artifacts grixis can go hard into sac effects thats y i see value in her abilities dictate of erabos doesnt care if the creature is an artifact too
I love this commander! shes my favorite out the new set. I cant wait to build around her. edit:I think a thopter spy network would work great! creates thopters, draws cards, it would help getting to combo pieces a bit faster.
I had a nephilim deck that Breya replaced. I was very happy when she was spoiled. My playgroup is very laid back and doesn't really like some of the faster combos. But! I really like the synergies and flexibility that you have here, and I'll be incorporating some of these into my deck, thanks for the video and keep up the work! Also, I'd just built a Hanna deck about a week before you'd posted your video on her =P. Mine is much more stax focused though. Anyway, thanks and I really look forward to more from you. tappedout.net/mtg-decks/tilling-up-treasures/
Great List! I'm glad you liked Hana (ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-N7WhK-3anzc.html) and she is reprinted with her promo art in this new set. Thanks for the kind words!
My experience is none so take my advice with a grain of salt. I think he fun but underwhelming. I am interested in all of his abilities and some even synergize with this deck. His +1 effect is too minor and his -1 is too generic. I'm not looking to make room for him. I know it's not a direct comparison but if I wanted the removal I would much rather run a Kolagon's Command or an anguished unmaking. I should find a slot somewhere because if he isn't in my deck then I will never be able to ultimate him and that looks awesome :)
Don't like Ugin in there. his bolt plus ability is meh when your commander can -4/-4 creatures and bolt players. his Munis just hurts you too much. His ultimate is nice, but with no way to accelerate him he's just asking to be pinged and smack and kept off it. Try Soulscour. It's 6 and 3 white, so a tiny bit more mana intensive, BUT it wiped the board of EVERYTHING that isn't an artifact. So creatures, enchantments, planeswalkers. Oh, and LANDS. Your artifact creatures be left alone, your artifacts be left alone, and your artifact lands and mana rocks be left alone. only a handful of cards in the deck would be effect by it, while for your opponents, only a handful of cards they control WOULDN'T be effected by it. it's a game ender, and a damn powerful one if allowed to go off. you honestly have the mana to spend, if you're grinding out enough to throw ugin out, you can find 3 white to use Soulscour. I suppose one could say "Why not both" but if it's a choice between the two, I prefer Soulscour. besides, what gets sent to the grave can be shuffled back into the deck with any number of useful artifacts. Raitos Lantern and Elixir of Immortality just to name two.
Jumbo Commander Well another cheeky alternative is the favorable board wipe Scourglass. a 3 and two white artifact that has "Tap, sac: destroy all non artifact, non land permanents, activate this only during your upkeep" while it's a little trickier to use then a normal wrath, being that it has to live till your upkeep, things like Gobline Welder, Master Transmuter, and simply flashing it in with Orrey or Shimmer Myr help to get it off. Plus the fact it's an artifact....well I'll let you figure the benefits there. If you're worried Soulscour is too costly, scourglass might be more your speed, since it omits the majority of your board when it does blow. Again, I say why not both, and my take on the deck is definitely going to run both. the more good board wipes that don't hurt our board state, the better. and these can be real crippling to our foes. and yes, I am an artificer through and through. So if it's cheeky and powerful artifact fun, I know few good tricks.
This is a good balance to DRAGONS!!!! I love turning dragons sideways but sometimes you want to mix it up. i have a thopters build I'm working on. It would be funny if your decks were massive flying dragons and little flying thopters LOL.
does the Breya commander deck in stores have most of these cards and can I build this using the already put together Breya deck to save time. Awesome video love these colors.
Most of these cards are not in the precon. But I made a budget upgrade video here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-27Ad9_JJa9k.html&lc=z120hxzjyxfgv3uak04cdrnxhpftgz0rcjc It is not the same deck but eventually you can add combo pieces and synergies. Good luck building!
xakuyer wedge on themanasourse has a good vid on Nekusar its not tier one but it is hilariously fun to play if you enjoy being the target that everyone hits a nice little interaction he doesn't add to his deck is a way to give nekusar infect every time an opponent draws the get a poison counter per card drawn
It depends on what decks everyone is playing. If things are unbalanced then the gameplay sucks but I try and ask people what power level of deck they are piloting and we all pick decks accordingly.
CheeZbredDawG no commander damage is only done by combat damage not activated ability damage however phyresis on Breya would give poison counters for the three damage
4:07 that artwork is gorgeous, may I ask where you got it from? Would love the artwork to be on a play mat or as an alternative artwork on the card itself
Ok this is why no one probably plays magic with you. Honestly though, you only need Dramatic reversal+Isocron Scepter and some mana rocks and just keep Sacrificing Breya and recasting her. Or even spice it up more with Paradox Engine.
Infinite mana is really powerful with a commander that has a built-in kill. At the time of recording, Paradox Engine was not released yet but that would also go really well in here. Good suggestions
I kinda restarted playing magic in 2016 and been so long away from it. so knowledge of sets isn't my thing. That is all i play mostly now is just commander. More modern commander however and not revised and older. Breya was my first pick because I've seen all that lovely 5th turn win cheese potential.
Hey Jumbo Commander. Great vid! I'm wondering, what are some good options if I have all these cards but do not have tundra, volcanic island, etc. those can get pretty expensive and any recommended subs would be highly appreciated
Yeah, I have been fixing mana issues by throwing money at it with those overpriced duals. It was lazy of me, sorry. I would argue that on-color fetchlands are critical. I also like the Panoramas a lot. One of my favorite duals in commander are the Scry lands. A tapped dual can be annoying, but in many situations this land can be very close to "draw a card". I hope these substitutes help. Glad you liked the video.
I have. I think for these decks it may be problematic because the prices can be all over the place for these new cards. I do include the tappedout decklist so you can see a lot of current and real-time pricing. I will also be creating budget builds using the precons soon after release.
Unfortunately it's not highly accessible in commander because only Lion's Eye Diamond works with it and that's a super expensive card for most commander players. If you're like me and have it already, I suggest you give it a try, as it also plays into the eggs strategy (second sunrise, faith's reward) really well.
thank you soo much. I love your take on Breya. Especially the use of the graveborn synergy. :D Do you have a recommended manabase that youve been able to establish?
Good question. Right now I answer the complicated mana base by throwing money at it -- ABUR Duals, Fetches, and Shocks make up half the mana base. I firmly believe that there are great budget ways of playing 4-colors (I know because I have budget 5-color mana bases). I'm excited to play with the preconstructed decks as is and get a real feel for how wizards built their mana.
Jumbo Commander awesome. Ill get to work testing the mana. I cant wait for the precons either. My friends and I always play the 5 against each other on release day. Im so excited for Breya and Yidris. Hope to see a Yidris video soon. I feel like making it creature related but the thought of a cascading, spell flinging, ogre wizard sounds soo fun!
