Brian's Eclipse is Terrible 

Danger to intake manifold. Not exhaust. should’ve had a warning on the floor board instead🤣

Dom: “you owe me a ten second car” Brian: “I just saved your ass from the police and then got the car that is now technically yours shot up because of your own problems with a biker gang… I don’t owe you shit.”

Love how it says WARNING DANGER TO MANIFOLD but Brian is just like fuck it and uses another bottle of NOS haha

Brian: *uses 2nd shot of nitrous* Floor pan: adios

Brian was Laundering money from the Police. Brian asked for $80k but really pocked 40k and built up the eclipse, which is why Brian has a Dodge Stealth in the prelude and then paid cash for the Skyline that is slower than a Cobalt SS/TC.

When u realize that Brian was the main star and some how Dom became the main in fast 4

2:02 "He can see the ECU in the engine bay! What?" That's because that's precisely where the ECU is on a nonturbo Eclipse.

When they said in the movie the car was $80,000, I assumed the government had a speed shop build the car for the undercover job, and billed them at, um, 'government rates'. Like Dom said in the movie, $10k worth of parts if he had done it himself.

Even as a ignorant child who had very little knowledge on cars I was questioning how Brian’s car magically was able to run after all that shit Dom said happend to it

The danger to manifold thing partly makes sense, as a nitrous backfire can happen, and could potentially blow the welds on the intake. The computer wouldn't have known about it beforehand, though. The piston rings comment would have made more sense if he just said the pistons themselves. Nitrous can cause you to run lean and burn pistons, or even put holes in pistons if you don't have it tuned properly. If he rushed the installation that day, he likely wouldn't have had time to upgrade and/or tune the fuel system to match, making running lean a big risk. That said, they show the Eclipse running and driving at high speed after the race, which it wouldn't with burnt or damaged pistons. If the piston rings were bad, it would be smoking badly the whole time, from oil getting past and into the combustion chamber.

3:18 I have never noticed this before but in this shot of the cars backfiring they didn't used the same Eclipse or a modified one, the rear bumper and exhaust are the stock ones from the 2ga models from 1995 and 1996

I love how little this film actually knows about cars. It's like when a 12 year old learns what a R34 skyline is and shows off that they like different cars

the real question is why dom put a 400 pound speaker system in an actual race car

I remember seeing a great replica of one of these in Jefferson City a bit after the movie came out. I hope the vent on top went somewhere on the replica lol!

I love how the eclipse manages to fire brand new nuts and washers from the engine, through the firewall and into the footwell. Where of course the weight of such nuts and washers managed to make a bit of the floor pan fall off, because apparently his eclipse needed a rust repair or something since his floor pan wasn’t all one piece.

I can explain why it cost $80k in two words: Government tender. It's taxpayer's money, so who cares if it's overpriced?

Heres my understanding of the eclipse... no one in the movie acknowledged or specified it as a gst or a gsx eclipse. That being said, The production team probably just bought a bunch of gs eclipses because they were way cheaper than buying s couple of GSTS to save money on production and mocked them up to look sporty. The car is just a prop. In the movies universe the eclipse is turbocharged. Again since the eclipse is never specified we can think 1. He turboed the 420A...probably a bad idea. 2. Its mocked up to be a GST. The reason the turbo is pointed out in dialouge is to tell the audience without showing since the car isnt really turboed. And it is because we hear his BOV when he revs his engine. Again its just a post production sound effect.

This is somehow still the best movie of the series. That stupid eclipse got me into cars when I should’ve been playing with dinosaurs.

Yeah its goofy but ya gotta remember: they used 6! Stunt Cars. Hero 1 was rented by john lapid in the scene where brian and roman are checking the engine bay: hero 2 used for all interior shots. Stunt 1: the scene were it blows up it was stripped and windows were tinted. Stunt 2: dodger's stadium scene stunt 3: the jump scene i think.

Something that always got me was dom pulling a huge wheelie while spinning and smoking his slicks.spinning means no traction wheelie means insane traction

Believe it or nor, but back in the early to mid 2000s tuning was actually affordable. In 2005 i turbocharged a VR6 Corrado for less than $2000 parts and labor included just on the summer job i had in my senior year in high-school. Granted it was a low pressure TD04-16T from a 2.3L T5-R Volvo engine, but it still gave me 300+HP on a car that used to weight as much as a paperclip in a time when most supercars weren't still hitting 500HPs. The Ferrari F360 was with just 400-425HPs depending on the country it was about to hit. Its big brother - the 550 Maranello had just 485HP. And most Porsches of that era barely punched through 400HPs. It was quite an unique time which i'm sure will never happen again. Ofc 18yo with 300HP FWD car can only go one way and the Corrado was at the junkyard less than 4 months after the metamorphoses was complete, but these might've been the best 4 months of my life. Also - of course we paid cache - online payment, e-bay and all the other shizz we are used to now, still was non-existent. People barely could get their dial-up connections across most of the world and China was just about to come out of its 3rd world country status.

He skylarkered their limbs hahahhaha. Jokes aside the technical advisor Craig Liberman said that most of the idiotic stuff and lines are due to directors and managment wanted the flashy and cringy stuff. He has a youtibe channel that explains alot about the movie and cars.

Craig Lieberman goes over some of the things that the producers were thinking about including in various films in one of his older videos. I remember someone had floated the idea of Roman's eclipse doing a flip, literally ass over nose, in the middle of a race. By the metric of what Hollywood was attempting to stuff into these stories, it's a surprise that things weren't even worse.

My favorite part is how Brian is so happy to be losing being so unprepared that he didn't know they were racing for money which led him to lose $80,000 in taxpayer money on his very first night undercover

6:40 I never actually thought about the missing floor when Dom is sitting in the Eclipse lol

“$80,000 vehicle, FUCK OFF! THAT WAS A BASE MODEL ECLIPSE!!!!” 😂😂😂 Yet another of 2022s BEST one liner roasts EVER!!!!!

I do love how it looks! Sounds great too. Was really surprised when I initially found out it was a base model Gen 2 Eclipse! Always thought it was a GSX. Especially since they kept saying thewhole build was 80'000 lol

I never realized that Dom was Flintstoning in the Eclipse when Brian picks him up. Maybe that's why it's so quick still?

computer : danger to manifold brian : i am the danger computer says noooo floor pannel proceeds to aggressively unscrew itself this is still the best racing movie ever

I never thought of this until you brought it up. DOM IS LITERALLY HOLDING HIS FEET OFF THE GROUND THE ENTIRE TIME THEY RAN FROM THE COPS wtf 🤯

Brian's floor pan falling off is still the most WTF moment to me in all of F&F. That makes absolutely no sense at all lol

you forgot to mention the fact that when the floor panel fell, how did toretto not pedal like flintstone when he got picked up by Brian

I love the second gen Ecplise. Definitely in my top 3 favorite Japanese sports cars.

According to movie logic, the whole "fried piston rings" and ruined engine thing, is staged by Brian, car was smoking more than 20 pot heads hot boxing in a clown car, and then he rips it around saving dom, i believe, whether it was intentional or not, that Brian staged the whole thing. Minus getting the car blown up

The part where Dom could apparently see the ECU in the engine bay, is because he knew how much Brian spent at Harry's and what he bought. Though, that wasn't explained all that well. In the movie, it was also supposed to be a GSX, which was nearly $30,000 MSRP I believe. One more thing, he's able to drive super well because he's a police officer. He knows what the LAPD is going to do, as well as he took extensive driving courses. You basically become a wheelman when you join the LAPD lol

The Eclipse is not an iconic car nor is it fast , to be famous but when car manufacturers pay money to have their cars fitted into a movie ( I don't know if they paid for this ) yes it will become famous and known no matter whatever car they fit into the movie

Actually, i think around the time of the first f&f movie, the cheapest way to boost a car was a mechanical FMU (fuel management unit) that was mechanical and was visible in the engine bay

About Brian finding Dom amongst the police busting the street race, He was there undercover. It makes sense for the police to be feeding Brian Dom’s location so he can “rescue” him and gain his trust.

I think I know how the "price" of the car managed to get to 80k. It was made on public funding out of the police precinct's annual budget.

Always figured it was intake manifold that the warning is about, which makes some sense. There were some WW2 planes that had superchargers with 2-3 speed transmission so you could use the higher setting at higher altitudes, but if you shifted them in at low altitude you could blow intake gaskets among other things. Were talking about 1500+ HP engines built to be light weight, there was a lot of functional jank going on in those thing. Another place intake manifold pressure can be a problem is on staged compression setup where your running 100-300 psi stock manifolds are not built to withstand that much pressure. And yes that's a thing, the Cummins 5.9 guys do it all the time, it down to about 200 psi now because some company designed some better flowing heads, but before that the only way to make 3000 hp was to run those crazy high pressures.

Actually, the " danger to Manifold " could have been a real warning , SAY if his turbo began to surge or blowoff valve failing or over worked and THE " MANIFOLD" would be experiencing too much pressure EXP with nitrous and risk exploding or fuel pooling and a nitrous backfire ( hehe ALWAYS use shear bolts encase your mani does blow )

Those floor pans are really heavy and aerodynamically unsound. But it also knew to get the hell out of there.

Why was the floor pan a piece of diamond plate held in with pop rivets in the first place

Man, everyone was so young and alive in that movie.

Something I noticed that isn't talked about so far in these comments. At 5:59 they drift around a car and that car ends up hitting the police. But the car driving towards them honking and swerving has a red light...

I thought it was very silly how often Brian spun out in the Eclipse for the short amount of time he had it... ... then unfortunately for me I found out it's not too hard to go sideways. While going a modest 35mph down the stretch of road to my humble abode, some bitch pulls out of a racquetball center with no regard to traffic on either side. Braking hard + e-brake, my Eclipse did a total 90° counter-clockwise. Falken tires at the time and it happened maybe twice more before getting a new set due to rot (4k miles, maybe). No idea why it did that but fortunately no country club rejects have pulled out in front to warrant hard braking since then. Only indecisive drivers cutting each other off or tap-dancing on brake pedals. -_-

What was the hanging hose supposed to be for? Take a look under the car when Brian arrived at the warehouse meetup spot before the first drag race.

This movie came out when I was in high school. The amount of shitty Honda’s in the schools parking lot tripled.

It's actually a great car, looks and sounds amazing and has great action scenes. I know it's not great irl but in the movie it looks great.

I think, Eclipse better than Dodge Neon, which could be in 2Fast 2Furious as a Brian's car...

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He suddenly got better at driving because his mission was to get close to Dom. All that was an act. And it worked.

420a is quite reliable. I had an eclipse GS for years that never failed me.

There’s one in the movie car museum in Pigeon Forge, Tennessee Idk if it’s a movie used one, but it looks like it.

the eclipse was amazing it inspired me to get my own i wish they made some more of fast films

2:35 actually its the size of the jets for the N2O in the engine that determine the amount of flow of gas to the engine, not the size of the bottle. they would have to have exception eyesight to be able to see the jet size at night on the intake. fun fact the shares in holley carbs went up something like 700% because of the demand for NOS products after the film came out. 4:24 intake manifold. thats where your N2O jets will be. N2O works because you are putting more oxygen into the combustion chamber than is possible with regular air. you then need to richen the fuel mixture otherwise you essentially get an acceteleyne cutter inside your engine. brian's use of n2o is nuts. you would absolutely use it from the start to get a faster get away, especially with a turbo as the n2o spins the turbo faster and reduces lag. hes potentially right to have a 2 stage kit, because feeding in max n2o at takeoff would shred the drivetrain however with a 100hp kit, what is it like 50hp per stage? lolz. also hes running a turbo so after spooling up, the n2o is not as essential. more boost will create the power he needs. also what goon would hold in his floor plate with checkerplate aluminium? also how comes none of those 3m bolts sheered? looks like someone just dropped a bag of screws & washers into view. really should have been a tig welded panel. 5:38 if he "lunched" the engine from too much n2o, rings would be an easy replacement. most likely melted piston crowns and / or if the bearing caps & thats if the crank / rods / top end survived. also 100hp kit? thats the basic one to fit to your mums honda civic. 250-500hp would be more like it for a small motor. also why fit a big ass stereo to a race car? if he was hard core he could have spent that money on a straight cut sequential gearbox.subs / amps etc + current draw on the alternator would rod a few HP as well as add 300 lbs to the weight of the car.

This movie made me a petrol head, then I watched it as a petrol head, everything was so wrong but at this point it doesn't matter 😂

There are so many idiots that still think you should double clutch. That’s something that hasn’t been necessary for like 70 years. Synchros mean you don’t need to at all.

1:06 they're illegal street racers who bet cash and win cash, of course they're coming in and spending cash on parts. 5:48 the entire reason brian is there is for dom, of course he was watching where he went and swooped in to 'save' him. the whole police bust might have been orchestrated before hand, maybe even planning the loss, but fixing a race doesn't seem like brian's style and i think he actually thought he had him. 7:10 the government bought the car... the price tag checks out when you consider we spend 20k on coffee mugs, hammers, and toilet seats.

I saw a video saying that in production, they were going to use a 3000GT but could not get enough of them (needed like 4 or 5) for the shoot. I'd like to believe that is true, even if it is sad.

i have a 1990 eclipse GSX and i’m in some facebook groups and the things people do to the 420A motor is incredible! (also an incredible waste of money lol) they are 420A purists they swear that it’s a better motor then the 4G63T! they throw massive turbos on it just to run 6PSI of boost because it will explode at like 9 PSI my stock GSX runs 12 PSI and can handle like 18-20 or so before you need to start messing with your fuel system ok i’m done ranting i just heard you roast the 420A and got a good laugh out of it

I think the reason Dom knows about the Eclipse is that he asked Harry about it, and knows every part he's got in it.

I love how Brian’s laptop is just acting as an access port

The cops called it an $80,000 car. Which means, if you take it completely apart, and sell each individual bolt, screw, spring,... etc., for the highest price going... You know, like when they bust someone with a bag of weed.

If only he'd have that motec system exhaust...he'd win ☹️

What someone REALLY should have told Ja Rule was that picking a beef with Eminem and 50 Cent would end his career

I love how in this movie he takes Brian's car to teach him a lesson then a few movies later wins the race in Cuba but let's him keep his car out of "respect". This franchise literally understands its own inconsistency and plays off it, even to the point of recreation of the original race but in a Cuban setting.

As someone who's owned both a 1G and 2G GSX watching this movie is always a treat lol

80K NO LOWBALLS, I KNOW WHAT I HAVE

Notice this: Chrysler engine goes "poosh-poosh" just like VTEC

The car is basic, but is a hit, just like the Charger in this movie, those two are movie icons, right in there with K.I.T.T (i grow up with it) and Eleanor (the original and remake of Gone in 60/s).

"aren't (Dom's) feet just dangling above a hole in the floor right now?!" 6:39 HAHAHAHAHA

Always wondered how Dom jumped into the eclipse with no floor board

Lol that clank sounds come from metal bushings on the shifting linkage, it has more vibration and clank sound, and not as mushy as rubber bushings

I hated this movie as a kid and I didn't understand any of the car words. Now that I'm older and know what they're saying, I hate it even more. It's like they just had a list of car related words and just pulled them out of a hat for every scene.

The movie that made me love cars and other things with wheels

I never understood that if the car had a Blow motor How can the car still be running🤣🤣🤣🤣

I love Jesse I wish he didn't have to die

I don’t know why I laughed for a good 5mins just on the first 10seconds of this video lmao😂😂

Listen to that line again "And a standalone fuel management system not a bad way to spend 10k" He wasn't talking about 10k total but just in the ecu

in the alleyway right after he picks up Dom it sounds like hes rippin thru gears but the cop is just crusin behind him at like 18mph lol

I think dom just put 2 and 2 together and new he had to have a fms for the car. I still love the movie even with all the bs esp when they shift 20 times during a quarter mile race lol

Monica said "This is yours whether you win or lose." before the race.

I just assumed that was all according to Brian’s plan, to tank the race and get closer to Dom. He couldn’t get arrested or else his cover would’ve been blown, so he drove for real to escape the cops.

That Eclipse is more like $40K. The other $40K Brian probably spent on the Ford F-150 Lightning

6:19 Because Dom's car is just faster. Anyone can go quick in a straight line. It was a drag race, not a circuit challenge. Brian would smoke everyone.

What started as a critique of the Eclipse quickly turned to a roast of the whole god damn movie lmao

gsx model would've been better

hahaha so true! clearly the guys wrighting the script knew as much about cars as the 10 year olds fans we were back then!

Haha great video I’m glad it appeared on my feed. As an old school ricer in the 90’s they called NoS, Squeezing… do they still say that? 🤣

As a kid I never questioned any of this

6:44 - "Aren't his feet just dangling" - I never thought of that LOL!!!!!

I love all those satisfying sounds before he takes off the revs of the engine and the sound of that exhaust and the sound of the shifter 😩😩

"80 thousand? fuck off that was a base mode eclipse"

I remember I bought a 98 gsx 2 months before the movie came out. People keep calling these cars ricer, but um this was the mod style back then. I can't believe it's been 22 years since it came out 🤯

You're like CinemaSins but you ACTUALLY understand what you're talking about and make valid points lol. God tier man!

The 80k is actually the most realistic part because a police department built it which means 30k in labor

They had to nerf it, it was too good in beginning. It would not make sense later if it had not broke.

I watched 2 of your fast and furious vids and I'm sold, you have a new subscriber my friend

I have my ECU literally relocated inside my battery box. And for the people paying 7k for a motec ecu on my platform; technically yes you see the ecu in the engine bay lol.