These are some of the hardest screens in NBA history but they get increasingly more hard-hitting as the video goes on. Business Inquiries: mcosh3@gmail.com
i love how 90% of players' hard screens involve at least a little malice, but Stephen Adams's are just like, "sorry, bro, but ... uh, well, i'm standing here, bro"
on top of just being Steven Adams, he's got the benefit of being totally set unlike some of these. The ones where people get closelined is because the guy setting the screen isn't set and has to lean into it not to get plowed himself. Adams is really damn good at that right place right time shit to get planted in a clean screen so often. He's in like 4 or so of these and only the last one is questionable, but even then he doesn't raise his arms and is still close to set.
@@neesonnaidoo4745that was basically the equivalent of a check from behind in hockey. it’s extremely dangerous to hit somebody’s spine while they’re moving in that manner. if it’s a major penalty in one of the most physically brutal sports it absolutely should qualify as flagrant in one without pads
@@caedonja Not it is not. He ran into him from behind. If he stopped step earlier its nice screen, but he just ran into him. From behind. Its dangerous and its called in every sport.
@@neesonnaidoo4745A hit in the back is always a flagrant, even in significantly more violent sports like Hockey and Football. Don’t pretend like driving into the back of somebody’s neck isn’t a great way to end their night or career.
*Offensive player stands completely still* Commentators: THAT'S A FOUL! *Offensive player throws elbow into defender's face* Commentators: What a screen!
@@nickmessner700 That's why I hate watching certain broadcasts. I know it's not basketball, but I hate watching the Nationals broadcasters because of how incredibly biased they are
They called the Aldridge screen a foul because he pushes his arms out after the contact, which is considered “excessive” I noticed an elbow from Kelly Olynyk to Kelly Oubre (Kelly on Kelly crime) but I didn’t notice any others
Pat Beverly is a pest on defense and notoriously mouthy. He does stuff to get underneath the skin of other players. Teams return the favor by frequently screening on him. Its the only legal way to inflict some pain.
Also flops a little trying to get the moving screen call. Never realized but he saw the hard one that Steven Adams sets on him. His head definitely turned and got ready to take the hit.
@@AlexH-yd4vj there has never been a single team on earth game planning to screen Pat Bev just to “get back at him” lmao. Pat Bev trying to annoy people on the court is like if a cheerleader came up to you and said “basketball isn’t a real sport” and expected you to give a fuck and be mad
@@DeckofLies Uh, when the OKC team believed that Pat Bev caused Westbrook's knee injury they ABSOLUTELY were looking for him the following year. I live in OKC. Pat Bev is still hated here.
It's absolutely hilarious that in almost every single one of these, my own reaction and analysis of the legality of the screen shown is the exact opposite of the commentators. How is that even possible lmao
Hey im new to basketball and watching NBA, why are some of those considered fouls and some not? they all look the same to me. would appreciate an explanation
@muhammadihsan4896 I'm kinda ambivalent about that one .... but even though LeFlop lived up to his name on that one, there's no denying that based on the letter of the rules, half of the definition of flagrant 1 is easily reached. The other half ... it was definitely a "basketball move" but it was certainly poorly executed.
@gahb4326 they essentially are the same with a key difference. An illegal screen (foul) is also known as a moving screen. Based on that name you might be able to deduce that it's illegal to move while screening a defender. Obviously the speed at which the game is played makes this a fairly difficult call to make: whether the screener was set and not moving when the defender made contact. Obviously once contact is made it's very likely that both bodies will move ... even substantially so. Unless you're Stephen Adams lol. But that's supposed to be incidental and irrelevant to determining whether a foul occurs.
As a Thunder fan I can say the Adam’s screen on Beverly at 4:05 is especially sweet after Beverley’s intentional foul that led to Russ’s season ending injury
I love Steve Adams screen and his mannerism. If it is to the opponent, he'll be like: "Well...if he dies, he dies." But if his teammates getting screened and fall, he'll be be immediately: "Help... Call Ambulance.."
I just dont understand how some screens result in foul calls while others dont. So many of these they are stepping into the other player. Am i wrong that a screen is supposed to be a player with feet in place, just standing in the way of the defenders route? Youre not supposed to insert yourself into their route so late and slam into each other. Youre just a temporary wall. And walls dont push you.
Its a tricky call to make because players standing vertically will get knocked over so you have to lean into it a bit to brace yourself. I think as long as you feet are planted and you aren’t leaning side to side there shouldn’t be a whistle but idk the rule
@@Jack-zi6pr The rule: "A player who sets a screen shall not (3) assume a position so near to a moving opponent that he is not given an opportunity to avoid contact before making illegal contact, or (4) move laterally or toward an opponent being screened, after having assumed a legal position. The screener may move in the same direction and path of the opponent being screened. In (3) above, the speed of the opponent being screened will determine what the screener’s stationary position may be. This position will vary and may be one to two normal steps or strides from his opponent." "To screen a moving opponent, the player must stop soon enough to permit his opponent the opportunity to avoid contact. The distance between the player screening and his opponent will depend upon the speed at which the players are moving" "An offensive screener must have his legs no wider than shoulder width apart, and he may not extend his legs (hands, shoulders, ass) outside the vertical plane of his body when setting a screen.” With all this in mind i found 2 (probably) legal screens in this video: 1 1st 2 2:51
@@kdt110 NBA Referees tend to tolerate wide stance screens as long as screened player does not trip over the leg. In both instances screener stopped the opposing player with his core body.
love watching these. Sometimes they might not look like theyre that bad, but when you're running into a 6'10 260 pound dude, trust me you're gonna feel that
I love how Adams is pretty much never dropping his shoulder or leaning hard into the screen and still manages to flatten people hahaha Edit: just saw the pat bev screen and he definitely leaned in but come on it’s pat bev he deserved that shit.
Note that there's basically two ways a hard screen happens. One is the screener throws his full weight into it intentionally, which is usually a foul. Two is the screen isn't called out properly, so the guy just runs into it completely unaware. It's the difference between what Olynyk and Chandler did and what Adams was doing. Dude explains it well at 3:37. If you're focused on the ball you need teammates communicating to you about screens coming
New to basketball here - why is that an illegal screen? I thought that you just couldn't step into the defender. It looks like he barely moved into him at all? Or did he violate a different rule?
@@shores7seat990 I didn't hear a whistle on it, and I think the announcer said "that's a legal screen." But it's hard to say what they will or won't call in the NBA. I see moving screens constantly, no call. But sometimes, if the screener's feet are set, and he puts a shoulder into it, that's a whistle. Forearm, usually a whistle.
I started playing basketball a little while back. I'm not very tall and I gotta work on my cardio so I'm not great yet, but I'm kind of a big guy so the first thing my homie thaught me is to screen. Gotta say, it's so funny to me, standing there and watching a guy who is focused on the ball not even realize you're there until they slam into you and look all confused.
Majority of the commentators work for the team who’s player just got laid out the Spurs commentator Avery Johnson said the Patty Mills screen was a foul but didn’t say that when Aldridge laid out Walker
So, regardless of what was called on the court, about 3/4 of these were actually illegal. Lots of moving, sliding, and even as a C's fan I never realized until now how Perk always subtly throws a little shoulder into his screens, but since his feet are set he doesn't get called for it. Ironically, some of the most brutal screens were actually totally legit, mostly Steven Adams (except for the last one, he wasn't set there).
I’m by no means a lebron apologist, but Chandler launching at back of dudes neck was crazy. And commentator losing his head about a flagrant call is even crazier
I was pushing the ball up the court on a fast break one time when one of the Samoan guys in our group stepped in front of me to take the charge. I felt every joint in my body crack from that impact. He just laughed.
@@manaze85 Yeah, as a hockey fan my only real problem with it (other than it being obvious interference) is that just about all of these are blind sides/hitting an unsuspecting player. Plus collisions like that hurt extra when you aren't expecting any contact.
I was the big man in middle school and I was an asshole on the court. I genuinely regret some of the screens I nailed kids with. Still remember one kids glasses flying off his face and clattering across the court as he fell to the ground like a sack of potatoes. Not proud of it, high school I got out of playing basketball for something more my speed, golf.
So many moving screens in this one. Like, I totally get the rules changes (or shifting of rule enforcement) with things like carrying, traveling, etc not being enforced as strictly But I’ve always hated how many times people get away with moving screens, as it can lead to dangerous play (I may have a personal vendetta in this case though, as I have a large scar on my forehead from a player who was whistled for a moving screen on the play)
@@Mark-oe1df All for cracking down on moving screens (like the OP, I picked up a pretty bad injury to a moving screen that never should have been), but I don't think you can rule against back court screens, especially if there's any sort of even incidental full-court defense going on. If it's a legal screen, it really doesn't matter where it is.
Just making sure I wasn't insane. Many seemed like moving screens. I get that the NBA is very loose with rules at times but damn. A moving screen should be called every time. Also carrying needs to be called more.
@@robcoop6521 Yea the nba is becoming hard to watch due to rules they dont have to follow. They get away stuff 8 year olds would get called for. And don't me started on carrying, there are so many offenders of this violation it's not even funny. The biggest offenders being darius garland, ja morant, and of course jordan poole but he the only person I seen it called on
That LeBron screen on Nico Mannion at 0:48 is toooo funny. He's just looking at him like "There ya go, Tiger. This is gonna hurt a bit.... 🥲 I'm sorry it had to be this way but I know you can handle it" while he hits him with the meanest screen. 😂😂
Steven Adams is the guy you want. Man always has his team's back no matter what, never let his people down. I miss the days of Russ and Adams where Pat Bev, Dame, etc got their dues
Anyone who has never actually played competitive basketball can understand the amazing feeling it is to set an outstanding pick that levels the defensive player. It’s something you never forget and always enjoy watching. If the defensive team doesn’t communicate with their teammates, it’s a great way to teach them to vocalize.
My favorite thing about these hard screens are the players looking around and/or escaping like it was some mysterious entity that knocked the guy over. 🤣
Potential neck injury like that is no joke bro, he got whiplash from the way his neck pinched backwards. That shit stings and he clearly didn't feel the pain until he straightened his neck after contact. What probably happened is his body was going to flop to exaggerate the contact, but the pain was way more than he expected
I would LOVE to see NBA game endings but they get increasingly more thrilling. I know it'd probably be a long video but I could see you doing some amazing work with it
@@mikesmith2057 it was a hard illegal screen by Olynyk for sure, but Oubre was the dirty one there. I've seen screens like olynyks a buncha times. Not really "dirty"
1:08 lebron definitely flopped but I mean its literally illegal to block in the back in NFL because its dangerous asf. Bro pretty much tackled him in the back
there was a lot less screening bc of pick and rolls surge in popularity, also bc of less leniency on the movement by the refs, probably not a lot of footage
*I could never forget this* I was in 8th grade gym class and I ran into what I thought was a brick 🧱 wall but it was actually a short stocky guy name Briton Hilton! It literally felt like a car accident when I hit him 😅 I bounced off him then I hit the floor! I popped back up so fast because I was in disbelief about what had actually happened, ..a genuine state of shock! .. I literally said aloud "wtf"... Briton asked me if I was okay as a crowd formed around us and the gym teacher ran over! Worse part is he wasn't even moving when I ran into him 😅