If they’re complaining about price, I’m willing to bet they got a large screen tv, an Xbox, PlayStation, iPhone and rims on their car. Have to prioritize and cut out the BS.
@@jonathan-6958 that’s a little different. 3k vs 1.5 million house. Especially when they’re probably wasting more than 3k a year on nonsense making 47k. As for Starbucks, 6 bucks for a coffee every day for a year, just so happens to almost be the same price as a flir breach so maybe the experienced boomer knows what they’re talking about outside of housing.
5:50 I'm gonna play devils advocate. WARNING!!! LONG EXPLANATION!!! You need to keep your sanity in the meantime while you are saving up for thermal. So if an Xbox One and a dozen games for it helps you unwind at the end of the day so that you can stay sane and continue to perform well at your job so that you can continue to earn money to afford thermal (and also save for retirement), then maybe buying that game console before thermal is still money well spent even if it delays you getting thermal for a year.
I don't make 150,000 a year and I have both thermal and PVS 14..... all my weapons are in order Zero from some being 36 /300 to 100 m... way more ammo than I need and an EMP shield on my truck so, I really appreciate you guys's input.. the world is falling apart and it won't be long till we need these things so LARP away.... I'd rather sweat in training, then bleed in combat
Im a simple person. I retired at 43 and my wife retired at 41 (both MilVets). We make enough to pay our bills, squirel away oh shit funds, do/buy some of the things we want, and help our kids when needed. I don't see myself as a failure because I don't have $3K sittin around and not going to dig into the oh shit funds for another optic. I have a rifle mounted day/night (IR) and a rifle mounted thermal. I'm new to handheld/helmet mounted optics. I'll save my lunch money, maybe think about giving up Copenhagen, do a ton of research, and make a purchase in the fall. It'd be sweet if that new RIX thermal was rifle mountable.
One practical use of thermal is to shore up your weatherproofing of your home, shop, garage, etc. You can more easily detect hidden water leaks and where wind is getting through insulation, etc. my home inspector used thermal as a part of doing his report. Why not have that as a homeowner?
Such an underestimated statement. We paid $2100 for our inspector & boy did it pay off in the long run. Gave us a discount on future inspections & our 4th home is what we went with. When he broke out the thermal, I got hyped with him showing us the weak points to look at in the future.
Bartender in Philly, and father of 3, one of which is in a private Christian school. I’m about halfway there to buying my thermal. Sure my wife won’t understand why I saved up to buy it, and I’ll get a lot of crab for a month, but it’s not hard guys…save 25-50 a week. I spend almost $40 at my corner store 2-3 times a week.
EVOC is larping. Rescue Swimmer Technician is larping. Wilderness Medicine Refresher is larping. Rifle I is larping. ACLS is larping. CPR is larping. Everything is larping till the tones drop.
PLS do exactly more of this type of videos!! Keep up the good work. your company is the best on the earth. No joke. I wish more companies would be like you guys.
Correct. most of these "hypothetical" people like to spout off how they'd defeat thermal with fancy gear. They have none of it, they have never used thermal imaging, and they have never tested their theories.
FYI you can tell a huge difference between 30htz to 60htz. I can tell the difference on my monitors 1 is 60htz, 1 is 144htz, and the last one is 165htz.
it would make automatic calibration (the stutter) tolerable if the scope would announce it is about to calibrate with a red light in the corner somewhere giving you the opportunity to pause or hold fire knowing the image is about to freeze briefly.
Money ain't worth nothing. Take your money and go buy things that will keep you alive or buy assets that will retain they're value into a new financial system.
I'm in the situation where I could go buy a high spec monocular or thermal right now and still have about $6k left in our account. BUT, my wife simply isn't on the same page. My wife and I being on the same terms financially, while difficult with compromises on both sides, is more important to me than getting this gear.
This country is in bad shape and my belief is they're going to crash the financial system anyway. What good is having money saved up when the value of it is dropping every day. Invest your money in things that will still be valuable when our dollar crashes. That would be assets and things that will keep you alive. NV and thermal can be resold for pretty much the same as you paid for it especially if you keep it in good shape. It will also still be valuable if our dollar crashes, probably even more valuable.
@jimmybranks8359 I'm in agreement 1000% man. Again, I would buy a monocular today if I could, but yeah, my wife would be very, very, very mad if I made a large $5k purchase like that without her in agreement. Our largest expense is our mortgage at $1640.
@@jimmybranks8359 with the constantly rising price of night vision now that its being bought up in ukraine and by civilians here you'll likely turn a profit if you ever need to sell it
They aren't worth it in most cases. You're losing a SUBSTANTIAL amount of clarity as the thermal image must pass through the intensifier tube. Added cost, more cables, less clarity, poor detection, etc. If you want to clearly identify with detail, a dedicated thermal or fusion is the answer.
I throw you a tip and you come at me like a starving homeless cat.... If I didn't say anything you would be dust if drones see you, so be quiet unless your thanking me!
@@jameswagnerii The internet can tell you if it works. But only you can tell you if you can make it work on your body. As long as you train in your NIR clothing, it might be money well spent.
honestly was quite a bit of great knowledge, only thing i take any contention with is the "can't see more than 40 frames per second" thing. it's really not that hard to tell the difference between 30 to 60 fps and it's noticeable at even higher fps. i don't think that it's a major draw back on lag. but yeah
I totally agree get your house in order. make priorities, Make a destination, Make a plan. Also you Utilize what you have. Over the course of time I have reevaluated my firearm and weapons collection. I am truly looking to scale down no duplicates and positive application for each firearm.😊😊😊
11:58 hiding from thermal topic had me rolling because i legitimately thought that way (space blanets ) until i bought my first thermal and realized how ridiculous that would be
I just finished my first 24 hour milsim with a bridged pvs-14 and a Rix ST6. It wasn’t even fair. At all! Sat in the bushes while NVG guys walked by and got ambushed. I ALWAYS knew enemy positions before they spotted us. It was a dark night and the thermals really picked up what the NV didn’t. Even in thick bush trekking.
In Australia passive night vision is barely used, thermal is however everywhere for good reason, anyone arguing against thermal has no idea what they are talking about and hasn't used it before, PS the Government has Thermal and if you dont you wont have a leg to stand on, you might as well save energy and move into the FEMA camp now.
20:42 Battery life definitely depends upon usage. For example, I have a smartwatch which I've set to be tracking sleep from 00:01 to 23:59, which means that all day, it is in 'night mode', and I have the brightness set at 50%. From full charge 6 days ago, the battery is still at 92%... That's effectively a 3-4 week battery life; but with heavier use, full notifications, screen always on, etc, that same battery may only last a few days... I think batteries are very much a case of 'your milage may vary', depending upon usage... 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Hah. People are dumb. I’m a fireman. Ethan knows me. We spoke at length about thermals. We use them like crazy in the FD. It actually freaks me out sometimes inside home with glass picture frames in the wall because guess what? Glass reflects heat. So I can see myself in the reflection. Hence the freaking out sometimes in an active search during a fire. Haha. Glass. Cracks me up. The only consistent way to defeat thermal is to ensure there’s no contrast of temperature. Good luck with that in the long term.
The refresh rate arguement is from the movies when they were 24 hz... Im NOT a super human and can 10000% tell the difference between 60hz and 144hz. Buy the fastest refresh rate you can afford
I like the content and explanations for the differences in products. The issue I have is guntubers are all flashy but most you never see train how to go from point a to point b under the cover of darkness using this equipment. That is the bread and butter of it, not the flat range cool guy stuff.
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@@TATargets I am talking range theatrics vs real details to be more clear. I don't mind the entertainment part and cool guy stuff as long as there is real information being distributed that is valuable and that is why I like what you're putting out. It's well ballanced. I was in Afghanistan in the korengal. Used thermals as. 240 gunner and did a lot of movement at night to avoid being spotted. Back then my gun team was attached to sniper squads. We did 3 man gun team and 3 man sniper team. Then get back and they would send me back out with my platoon squads. So I have some real life experince with night fighting. But I can say that we used the thermals mostly to clear mountains we were hiking to and we got some of the first fusion scopes avalable. Though at the time I preferred blk hot, white hot on a pas 13. I have nvgs, the Jerry CE5, thermals. It is a far cry today vs back then. It was more rudimentary, but this stuff in conflict helps you move from point a to point b which is just as, if not more complicated than a fight. Navigating the gear at night under stress is when you gain a more gross interpretation of the capabilities and limitations. As far as engagments go with it it boils down to who spot who first and who can balance fire superiority and accuarcy the best. All happens fast and under nods once I had a beat I rarely used the laser, just used the tracers. Same concept applies to all the cqb stuff we see on youtube and classes. They teach just enough for you to get fucked up. All inside the building, but not what you need to know to get to or approach a structure. Anyway that's all I got. Thank you and God Bless, Hail Christ.
It always seems like the people that talk the most do the least. They'd rather complain vs make the change to success or a goal. You really should be able to fit 3k into any budget but they'd rather complain vs make the effort. If they don't put the effort towards getting it how do you think they perform in training? Oh it's raining now? Nope done and going home.
9:28 This, is why it's all larping: At what point, do people turn round and say ''You've crossed the line; this far and no further!'' and then *back that up* with direct action? The year is 2024, and since 2020, the world has been a waking nightmare, and yet no one in America (or most countries around the world) has gone and introduced a politician to Norma Magnum... (only one guy in Japan, with a home-made pipe-gun, had the cojones to do something) All the time this knowledge is cultivated, these skills honed, but with *zero application* as the second amendment outlines, and as the oath of allegiance compels, it's all just larping. In America, you *have* the tools to remove tyrants from power, but zero will to actually do so. As someone who grew up being told about the American revolution, having that 'pioneer spirit' ingrained into me, and grew up loving America, to see what it now is, and lacking the means to do anything about it myself, absolutely breaks my heart 😞😞😞😞🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
I’m the “simplistic guy” with 20+ rifles in my safe for SHTF. AR 15s: 4 KAC (18 lpr, 16 FDE, 14.5 blk, 11.5 blk), 3 HK mr556, 3 LWRC piston, 2 BGD Type A piston (11.5 & 16), 2 ADM, 2 LMT piston, 1 LaRue (16), 1 Sword piston, 1 DD mk18, 2 SCAR 16s. AR 10s and others in 6.5 creedmoor only: 2 SCAR 20, 2 Rise 1121xr, 1 KAC sr25. Shotguns: 2 M4. 50 cal: Barrett 82a1 29 inch. 3 thermal scopes (2 Thermion duo dxp50, and one Talion xg35) 1 military surplus PS30. No night vision because thermal wins almost every time unless clearing rooms. I don’t plan any room clearing and in a SHTF scenario I am just defending, with my group, our families/food/water/shelter. Somebody might be able to kill my group but there will be a high price to pay.
Bro...I liked the video but getting triggered by "a guntuber is a table and two hands" when you are sitting in camping furniture in an empty hotel room is a bit much. Every 2A guy that I watch describes himself that way, its a thing to be proud of. Check yourself so I can keep watching the channel because you seem to have a lot to share lol.
Or: us sitting on our recently purchased 9 acre commercial property that has two 6,000 square foot buildings and plans for our 30,000 square foot building we will be breaking ground on ASAP. We aren’t gun tubers. We have a physical, tangible business with real employees, equipment, assets, inventory, and property. Anything else we should clear up while we’re chatting? 😉
10:06 Considering that America has been conquered from within by a tyrant, and *no one* has done anything to change that, simply proves the points that i) it is larping, and ii) Americans have lost the spine of our forefathers who would never have stood by while the events of 2020 and 2021 unfolded 😞😞😞😞🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Thermal is my goal this year. Already got the comms and NV setup. Rifles are g2g. I've been wondering about many of the units available right now. I got my single L3 NV unit with the goal of doing a dual band system.
Kick the Arkayne CS team an email and they can help you dial in exactly which unit fits your specific needs. Good luck on the journey and thanks for watching/commenting!!
Dudes, you can pick up a used Flir Breach for $1400. Quit wasting your money on alcohol, quit eating fast food three or more times a week, and quit buying cars that require a monthly payment.
If you can't afford something, don't buy it. I want and actually need a truck but don't buy it because i can't. I'm also not going to complain about those that can. People are dumb.
Speaking of advancements in technology I think one day this shit will be in a visor or something flat like glasses. Im getting into night vision bow hunting and am coming up with an invention currently to help make that happen.
How does Ethan justify theowing a weapon and thermal scope in the bed of a truck and letting it bounce around. Even if they can hold up to that abuse, isn't it silly to intentionally mistreat expensive items when the mistreatment serves no purpose? Back seat or floor board would be juat as easy, no? 😅
WELL LIKE THEY SAY OF TO WORK I GO 🤫🤫🤫🧂🧂🧂THEIRS LOTS OF VARIABLES IN LIFE ,SAVE A PENNY A DAY A OR MORE DONT BUY SHIT YOU DONT NEED LIKE STARBUCKS OR $350 nike shoes one thing thermal is a must in this time period , don’t spend like a drunk ,SAVE AFTER YOUR BILLS ARE PAID EVEN IF ITS A PENNY IT ADDS UP YOU PAY $100,000 k for a truck that will never see nothing but a curb
@BareArmsChannel And PSA has different tiers of gun. The "freedom line" is a lower quality gun. The "Sabre" line is as good as any Colt AR. If you're buying PSA, buy Sabre.
@@FinalLugiaGuardian again. I understand your sentiment. But the notion that a better rifle does better on it's own is a hyperbole in itself. Train and stay fit.
Let's be honest though, about being called a gun tuber. You have to admit that it's a free marketing platform to sell products. I doubt companies would invest this much time / money on RU-vid if it wasn't beneficial in some way.
Our benefit is products we manufacture and products we believe in, use personally, and resell as dealers. We don’t advertise like normal RU-vid creators, nobody controls our message but us. We say what we mean and say what we want and how we want. Perks of owning the businesses and not behind beholden to advertisers.
You barely address the run time of Thermals vs Nightvision. Thermals are small computers/cameras where the most widely available NV are analog. The Arkayne STX advertises 10 hours battery life with an 18650. A PVS14 will run up to 50 hours with the equivalent mAh in batteries. It's a bit of a cop out to say "we have quick change now" and so on, for the same amount of stored energy you get more NV, that can definitely matter. I didn't catch if you touched on reflex optics, you cannot shoot reflex with thermals. You can use a thermal scope which can be very effective at sniping or spotting targets but you won't find a purely thermal solution to CQB unlike nightvision which has both lasers and reflex optics.
Because the run time is such a minuscule point. But let's address it: Flip it to standby mode. Turn it off. Change the batteries when needed. Did you miss the part where the thermal is BRIDGED to an analog NV unit? That's a critical piece to remember here. We are advocating for both. But prioritize your implementation of thermal, because that is the force multiplier. Not night vision.
@TATargets Anlog NV is better for within a more urban environment. Thermal dominates in the rural areas. NV also helps you move in said dark rural area. Thermal helps you make that single nighttime can't afford to fail long distance shot in said rural area. Ideally you have both NV and thermal, but, if you live in an urban environment, I'd say prioritize NV first. If you live in a more suburban area, thermal wins (and even more so in the country side).
Look into a COTI that clips onto your NV for CQB. The Chinese-made Jerry C is excellent. With that, you can absolutely use a reflex to shoot at a heat source, since the thermal device is above or off to the side of your optic, projecting the thermal image into your NV.
Stop projecting your inabilities to fuse thermal and night vision on others. You're like the people crying about 3D movies, i can't do it i get headache, it's impossible... My dude you can train your brain as you train your muscles, stop crying about it and do something about it.
Fuck I’m in Washington and stuck from leaving to freedom in Idaho, I literally can’t get legal firearms, guess since I got the pvs already it’s time for thermals. Sucks being a poor but I have no guns to spend on now! Yaya state made my option easy!