Bringing Retro 40k Back in a Primaris World

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A video that was teased many months ago! Jay builds and paints a Rogue Trader Mini for his Black Templar Army. We have new videos every Monday, Wednesday and Friday! We're streaming Monday-Saturday starting at 9PM CST!! JOIN USSSS! Thanks for watching!
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@charlesman8722 3 года назад

“I was there when the Emperor fought Horus.” “That’s nice Grandacus, let us get you back to your cyrocontainer

@KertaDrake 2 года назад

"But sir, you keep changing the guy who stood up to Horus in your stories!"

@samsowden 2 года назад

Gerroff my lawn, damn neophytes!

@casanovafunkenstein5090 3 года назад

Back in the day you were intended to make the banners out of paper and attach them to the poles yourself in case you were wondering why it wasn't sculpted. White dwarf and the codices would also sometimes include pages for players to either cut out for banners or photocopy and paint over/colour in for this purpose. The technology probably wasn't up to that complex of a shape and the average player of the game was expected to be much younger back in the 80s so the idea of freehand painting the banner onto an uneven surface was probably a bit advanced for most people to attempt.

@Anubarak313 3 года назад

ive seen some more durable made out of glue hardened paper towel or cloth. or even more detailed, you can full sculpt yourself. ive even seen an old soda can cut down used. but yeah the old banner poles were meant for you to kinda go wild with however you wanted to make a banner.

@m0nkeychemicals 8 месяцев назад

back in the 80s toothpaste tubes were made from thin metal, and this was the best material for banners, they could be easily cut to shape, painted and then crinkled realistically and would hold the shapes

@pwcca9 3 года назад

You're the first guy I see who looks like he's really enjoying what he's doing. Like it's really a hobby, not a full time job. Great that there is someone out there who's gonna remind us why we're doing it:)

@frannyfranfrancis 3 года назад

You see it too! His face shows his love for the hobby when ever he talks about a mini or just looks at them! Plus he's never negative even when talking about some aspect of the hobby that he doesnt like.

@chanlennox8133 2 года назад

Goobertown hobbies and Miscast both get giddy about stuff too.

@lt.branwulfram4794 2 года назад

If you love your job, you’ll never work a single day in your life.

@giorgiofenu5563 3 года назад

"the trick is always cut towards yourself" Thought this was Midwinter minis for a sec

@emile1365 2 года назад

Shame he got so arrogant...

@moa9188 2 года назад

@@emile1365 wdym?

@emile1365 2 года назад

@@moa9188 I mean exactly what I said, compare his early videos to his latest.

@moa9188 2 года назад

@@emile1365 so your saying that he thinks he's 🔥 💩

@magaz 4 месяца назад

I learned the hard way once that doing that leads to someone in a hospital supergluing your thumb back together…

@ceowulf69 3 года назад

Back in the days a "simple head swap" was not so simple ..

@Messermarkmauritz 3 года назад

I miss this days

@johnstrange1699 3 года назад

Age of sigmar gloomspite gits grots have they're heads atatched to the torso straight from sprue

@ceowulf69 3 года назад

Imagine then in the 90s , that model in metal ...

@cinninnimonskoda2017 3 года назад

Yeah.... I've been head swapping old robed dark angel metal models ... my dremal work is getting much better ... frigging nightmare

@jeanpierdavidvegachoque6947 3 года назад

The crak platicle is over

@StumpedIDIT 2 года назад

“You know I think the perfect bit has been staring me in the face the whole time” * Jay jumps through the screen and rips off your head to use as his banner topper*

@SavageGerbil 2 года назад

You know, I think I'd unsubscribe for that

@latotheleaf2223 3 года назад

Its so weird to hear a non UK guy talking about Warhammer, being someone who was around in 86! Great job dude!

@dderajj2166 Год назад

Yeah weird, a lot of American RU-vidrs popped up relatively recently. It's bigger here now in America. Definitely because of the video games though

@Embusque Год назад

@@dderajj2166 In '86 my friends, brothers, and myself would play for 3-5 days straight. That was in California, 40K and GW were not exclusive to just the UK. In one of my boxes I still have my first edition Rouge Trader and original Warhammer fantasy models. Definitely not because of video games since home pc's were still being created, refined, and not so gamer friendly during that time.

@XiongGou 10 месяцев назад

@@EmbusqueI think it's always been a niche hobby, especially here in America. However, I think the rise of RU-vid and other social media apps it gives more attention to these really cool hobbies. Also, it's kind of a sharp learning curve to get into 40K, nevermind the money as well. I've always wanted to get into it but due to reasons above never did. I just have to settle for proxy through avenues like this one.

@XiongGou 10 месяцев назад

@@Embusquealso I became interested because of things like Hero Quest and Battle Masters.

@moonstryder1740 3 месяца назад

Warhammer has been a massive thing even here in S. Africa for many many years idk how you'd think it wasnt huge in America

@Penguins569 3 года назад

Fantastic! I grew up with this era of minis and although I fully admit the modern plastic stuff is objectively better than the old stuff, I love the old metal sculpts because they all had the personality of their sculptors in them. You could pick up a model and tell who sculpted it!

@gangrenemccluster7680 3 года назад

This dude knows how to make bases.

@Victimxofxprogress 3 года назад

He's been making basing tutorials for like 8 years. He better be

@npc6817 2 года назад

Based

@lazerhosen 2 года назад

@@npc6817 I wish everybody's eyeballs could *flock* to your most profound of comments. ...something, something, *sand,* something... *rim* something, something, *paint it black* (etc)

@joebloker8585 2 года назад

Here here

@fourfourths8445 3 года назад

Look as someone that got their first gw model in 1990, not knowing what the minatures were from. Then in 96 walking into a gw store and finding out there was a game and walls of minatures in blisters waiting for adventures. I walked out that day with 1000 points of metal nids. In this video you have achieved everything required to talk on old hammer hobby. So from hobbyists that started during in the transition from metal to plastic, ya earned your stripes. In fact you did more and better than most people were doing with kitbashing/conversions. Although the one minor thing you generally want a gloss coat of varnish, then a matte coat on metal minis, it helps with chipping.

@thesampsonite 3 года назад

Rocked it! He came out great! Good skills! Though i most fainted when you clipped off the Crozius!

@orestmikulin235 3 года назад

I was shouting “no no no” during that part! 😂

@spaceyeti5063 3 года назад

I felt similar when the bits box came out - the perfect banner topper was already on the desk! Luckily he figured it out. Great model.

@monketo00 3 года назад

That banner pole and greenstuff flag are pretty spectacular

@Slenkamure 3 года назад

my favorite moment in this video was the most real thing ever. 25:53 wiping the glue on the bottom of the table. Admit it we have all done it

@TehJumpingJawa 3 года назад

Great job bringing a more modern look to an ancient model, without ruining its original character.

@DustyTheKitty 3 года назад

I feel yah on the RT era painting minis, especially ones on their original packaging, its like breaking the seal on a collectable, also comes with this feeling of wanting to do the old thing justice but without taking away what made it of that time. S'why I usually look for loose minis (Also helps they are much cheaper too), anything in a blister feels like it belongs in a museum!

@KertaDrake 2 года назад

At least the classic Warhammer packaging is starting to make it easy due to age... A few more years and the plastic will crumble to dust on the slightest touch.

@lazerhosen 2 года назад

Funny thoughts about miniatures still in blister vs. action figures... if a good paintjob miniature can triple (or more) the value of it... wouldn't it be more valuable to paint an OOP miniature? I'm not really up on my "value of collectibles as it relates to the 40k hobby", but it seems like there is more value in a painted one.

@DustyTheKitty 2 года назад

@@lazerhosen I'd agree with you, though I think it would have to be to a ''display'' or higher standard to be considered more valuable, otherwise it can lower the value due to needing to have said mini stripped. Granted that's probably the case with any miniature but something OOP... I dunno It just has this need to be properly done? It's hard for me to really put into words.

@josephaulisio9281 Год назад

Get lost you money lender.

@frannyfranfrancis 3 года назад

I would love to watch you and GooberTown nerd out about the hobby! The two off you seem to light up when talking about the hobby and it seems so genuine! Im motivated to paint now, Thanks!

@smelvinhamilton9792 3 года назад

One off the most enjoyable painting videos I've seen in a long time! Everything is so quality! The video and editing make it a joy to watch, and ofc that paint job is gorgeous! Well done my guy, I'm so impressed!

@scarecrow2097 3 года назад

This is such a nicer blister than the boring blank card with citadel on top. I would collect those too.

@OGTalon 3 года назад

A bunched up flag/banner tip that helped me, print/sketch the design on paper then bunch it in the same way as the flag/banner and you can see where the design will deform and copy that across 🤘

@elneutrino90 2 года назад

A super cool idea would be to stick a photo of the finished painted model in the blister card it would add work but the collection would be much more visual and "complete"

@EricsHobbyWorkshop 3 года назад

Keeping the card backing is a nice trick to mitigate the fear of opening an old blister for that nagging collector voice inside. Great video!

@EonsOfBattle 3 года назад

I have this thought of one day getting a pegboard and hanging them up like they would be in a store.

@SamuelHolt1980 3 года назад

Really loving your videos. What makes them is your genuine nerdy delight and gusto (plus honesty about everything you are doing). Checking your patreon out!

@graefx 3 года назад

Definitely did it justice. Looks fantastic

@TheSixthWorld 3 года назад

I had an entire squad of old school space marines on jetbikes...makes me want to find them...

@ChampstylesTLT 2 года назад

I legit think this is one of my fav videos you’ve done -this is the one I watch the most when it comes time to watch the EOB reruns 👌

@adrianreyno1 3 года назад

Being an old metal model, you did amazing work on that piece. I have an old Black Templar in Terminator armor.

@breadpirateoverhere 3 года назад

I love this idea. I love using retro models to symbolize special or veteran units.

@EonsOfBattle 3 года назад

YES! and all it takes is a rebase and a little ingenuity

@breadpirateoverhere 3 года назад

@@EonsOfBattle I use some of the 3rd edition Dark Eldar as my trueborn. Would make sense visually that these ancient soldiers would have pure Dark Eldar blood.

@lazerhosen 2 года назад

@@EonsOfBattle Thanks for using a tack to plug your tacky glue. The only appropriately named thing to do so. Great job on breathing life back into an older model!

@DorkaTor 3 года назад

Yaaay! thumbs up for retro hammer every time.

@imperialus1 3 года назад

Metal models certainly were my walking to school uphill both ways story from when I first started playing Warhammer in the early 90's. The fact that I played Imperial Guard is the equivalent of it snowing in June.

@lazerhosen 2 года назад

You had a very heavy figure case.

@user-dd6le5dv8s 3 года назад

22:22 the two thin coat god appears

@terrancenolan6832 3 года назад

Back in the day, we made our own banners for those flag poles.

@awoken8infinite 2 года назад

I always just cut 3 sides of the bottom section of the plastic, then slide the bits out. That way it still looks like the blister is intact. I started doing this with things so I can always put the contents back in if I want to, and display it that way. You have the best of both worlds.

@CharlesMarlow1898 3 года назад

I really enjoy the Rogue Trader era. I'm working on a RT project currently using oringinal RT plastic Space Marines from RTB01 and a few metal Space Marines Mk III & IV as well as some fan sculpt RT stuff and a couple of original Rhinos. A terrific video. I really liked your banner work. You have skill.

@constantinbentlewski6128 3 года назад

im not painting warhammer anymore, but this guide is nice and gave me some ideas for my gundam kits

@PreceptorGrant 2 года назад

I started high school in '86, and started on 40k not all that many years later. I have that same jetbike, but with a techmarine rider instead of a chaplain. That and my Furibundus dreadnaught from the same era are the rarest treasures in my collection.

@brokenheroics8223 3 года назад

This was a fun video and brings me back to the good ole days of 40K minis.

@dirtybirdsf 3 года назад

Awesome work! The flag conversion and base do that old model proud.

@gregfougere7447 2 года назад

Awesome job! That banner is great! I'll keep that idea for my Rogue trader marine veterans...

@gwenlliandavies7348 3 года назад

I recently bought a whole bunch of old Citadel metal models to recapture my childhood. I gotta say there's something different about the old models. Firstly they literally have weight, but secondly I just think they are far more charming! Painting old metal with the newer paints and techniques really makes them shine

@FiveStringC 3 года назад

Love these old model builds so cool to see where it all started and what people do to get these things looking table ready

@MagnusMoerkoereJohannesen 3 года назад

That green stuff banner *SLAPS*!

@joshy7759 3 года назад

Dude, literally liked and subbed just for the wax pencil tip. My entire world has been improved.

@OmegaLittleBob 3 года назад

Awesome!!! I love seeing old models given new life.

@KameSennin4209 3 года назад

I never thought about sketching concept-art for kit-bashing, that is genius. I will be stealing that Idea.

@hauserhound Год назад

You killed it on that green stuff banner kit-bash. Truly impressed!

@SilentSooYun 3 года назад

If only it was this easy to convert metal Terminators. Old Space Hulk Terminators are what got me into 40k, now they look half-scale compared to modern plastic. I still love putting back-banners on my squad leaders, though... I kinda miss the pageantry and vibrant colours of old-school 40k

@noeyedeer3202 3 года назад

You my Sir are a dope craftsman, your passion for the hobby is infectuous!

@1988theRick 3 года назад

That green stuff trick for the banner waa really cool. Looked awesome!

@CaptainCheddar806 3 года назад

It was a cool trick with the banner for sure! If you ever do it again try making a 2d stencil if the design on thin paper and fold it on the 3d banner to give a clearer idea of how to paint it maybe? Keep the awesome vids coming :)!!thank you

@euansmith3699 3 года назад

The paint job is really impressive; and the effect on the base turned out more effective than I expected.

@B_Cojones 3 года назад

Was dubious about the dust thing...but yeah that model rocks it, brings out the 80's of it if that makes sense.

@12XxXHandlesAreStupidXxX123 Год назад

I use those cardbacks that I save as painting inspiration for the model or future models. They are also a great way to see where materials change/where to apply paint.

@gideonventura1745 3 года назад

Oh boy good to know I'm not the only one thinking this with my rouge traderminis

@silverninja1001 3 года назад

If you want to keep the stuffing in place you use a 1:1 mix of pva glue and water then put it in a spray bottle.

@richamaru5217 3 года назад

Being binge watching your videos. Thankyou for helping me get into this hobby and showing what I need and all the little tricks and tips you have! Subbed 👍

@BirneGilmore 3 года назад

I would be afraid to touch that thing ingame, but wow, well done build and paintjob! ^^

@Kohlenstofffasermonster 2 года назад

Very nice video, was not sure on the dust cloud first, but then you made it look quite good!

@doctordoubledakka3939 3 года назад

props on the banner man. Great sculpting work

@getterkaiserz 2 года назад

I love metal minis. It has a satisfying heft. I like plastic too though. The dust and rocks kicking up came out great. Rad job

@angrygonk5238 3 года назад

EoB: sees a old card back EoB:It will make a fine addition to my collection

@dgh06071995 3 года назад

Pretty cool man. I remember painting these in the late 80s early 90s. Good job

@coa2222 3 года назад

Best video, your calm manner is owesome, please do more like this and longer.

@SimonJohnOwen Год назад

I got my first Citadel Miniatures in 1982 - Fantasy Tribe Dwarves! The only model figures I had seen before that had been 1:72 scale Airfix so these were amazing.

@leeperry7068 3 года назад

Banner turned out reeeeally great. Awesome work. Cotton for smoke is always rough, I wish there was another option that was more... I dunno... smooth? Less notably obvious "threads" in them?

@gunslinger1911a1 2 года назад

All I can say is I got a little light headed when you clipped that Crozius. That's almost a "It belongs in a museum!" moment.

@mitch5387 3 года назад

First time on the channel and.....I....was....GLUED to my phone watching this!!!!!

@carlstanford7607 3 года назад

Nice work

@awoken8infinite 2 года назад

Those wood chips are amazing for making rocks. I keep meaning to buy some myself. thanks for reminding me.

@aristin62 3 года назад

Love it. You're right, these old metal models are janky as anything, but, you know. They're relics.

@Number767 2 года назад

Wonderful work! Nice to see a old mini getting some love.

@stuartjenkins3039 3 года назад

That banner pole? That was so you could either cut it down to use as a back-banner, or use it as a full banner by cutting to fit the first of an RTB01 marine. Or you could use it as an objective marker.

@EfectoGatillo 3 года назад

Make a picture collage With all the back pack in the big picture frame, ***Decorations tip***

@aldinaneves 3 года назад

I love this channel. It has become my fav :) keep it up guys 🤟🏼

@satanswanker666 4 месяца назад

Kitty litter and super glue. I always learn a new trick from your channel. Love it

@Bananananamann Год назад

Beautiful outcome, very well done.

@supdon3460 3 года назад

Hahaha "Angle of the dangle" killed me.

@johnashley-smith4987 3 года назад

Nice work Man! Those old models are a lot of fun. Sure, they're more work than plastic, to bring them up to today's standard, but still rewarding when complete. I'm currently trying to plow through a bunch of 2nd and 3rd edition metal and hybrid models, because , after all, I bought them because I liked them and wanted to paint them,it's just taken me 25 years to get to them! I look forward to seeing you do more retrohammer stuff in the future, if only to keep me motivated, working away on my collection of relics, from the " before times" Thanks again, and keep up the great work. As a tip, you can actually use green stuff as an adhesive. A little super glue, at the point of contact helps too, with the putty, not peeling away from the metal.

@davidetosi2391 2 года назад

The turboframe a la Fight Club for the "two thin coats" was nasty. 10/10

@stephenjdutton 3 года назад

Excellent work but I almost cried when you cut down the crosius. I just put together an entire army of Dark Angels using only Rogue Trader vintage models. Officers, apothecary, chaplain and librarians for my command section. Tactical, assault and devastator squads for my line troops. Terminators, relic terminators and scouts for elite troops and vehicle support from rhinos, a dreadnought, predator, land raider, bikes, landspeeder and the whirlwind from the White Dwarf modelling workshop article. What I thought would be a ten minute video talking about them turned into half an hour remembering how you used to be able to get thirty marines in Rhinos for £20.

@herculeholmes504 3 года назад

Modern miniatures are _so_ much better, but I often feel like there is something missing, especially with GW models. Part of it is nostalgia of course, I have fond memories of my first time discovering the world of Citadel and Grenadier miniatures in the 1980's, but it's not just that, and it took me a long time to figure out what: It's that modern minis are so good, so detailed, that no matter how you paint them they all look basically the same; the model is more distinctive that anything it's owner can put into it; if you want a GW Greater Demon of Tzeentch, the modern kit looks fantastic, a million miles from the original 1980's metal mini, but no matter how you paint it, even if you do some kit-bashing, it still looks like it belongs to Games Workshop, not you.

@philhelm1318 2 года назад

There was more creativity and variety back then, especially since the designs weren't so tied to IP (which is why, as you say, the new miniatures always look like they belong to GW). Also, with metal models the sculpts and poses can often times be unique, unlike plastic kits. One thing that I really miss is the Space Orks. The old Orks looked like they belonged in space, and many had full suits of armor; the new Orks look like they are from a Mad Max movie (especially the bare-chested nob from the new Ork kit).

@doncoyote68 Год назад

A lot of the modern models are poor. Yeah the technique is better but the composition is sub par. Uninspired design choices, overly detailed, bad silhouettes, shallow grasp on themes. Not everything is about pure technical skill.

@josephaulisio9281 Год назад

“So” much better…? IDK… my opinion is that current plasticrap is soulless, devoid of character. You knew a Kev Adams goblin as soon as you saw it, same with Bob Olley, Naismith, Jess Goodwin, or any number of artists.

@herculeholmes504 Год назад

@@josephaulisio9281 I think digital sculpting has introduced a new problem to miniatures and figurines in that digital sculptors often take shortcuts: Faces are mirrored, making them perfectly symmetrical, but _too_ symmetrical. Hands are often not properly finished; arms are added from a library of bolt-on parts and the sculptor doesn't bother to re-pose the fingers or rotate the wrist, which makes the figure look like a doll. There are two-dozen other gripes I've got about digital sculpting. But, vehicles are much better than they used to be, and 3D printed figurines are dirt cheap. I just want to see more old-school sculpting talent brought to bear on the digital medium.

@catcadev Год назад

I'm gonna disagree here! I put a little bit of extra work into my minis (and a few bits and bashes) and they come out looking very distinctly mine. It's all down to how you use the model! I added some purity seals (they said pluribus) to my captain and wham! He looks so unique even next to the same model.

@visiblur 2 года назад

That model is 12 years older than me. Pretty amazing to think that people was doing this years before my parents even met and I'm doing the same stuff with the same glee today.

@RobbinsNestStudios 3 года назад

You made this bad boy look slick!

@ksrknwht300klls 3 года назад

thanks to you I decided to switch to transparent acrylic bases but guess what: I paint the rim black

@bugnazbinnyking1198 2 года назад

You really done him justice! ✅👍

@maxbrandt6 3 года назад

Really cool to see some Oldhammer love, those early 40k models were kinda crude compared to what was to come and it's always nice to look back at where the hobby began. I have some Rogue Trader era Eldar figures I'd like to show here off one day, GW really has come quite far!

@herculeholmes504 3 года назад

I've got three of those old jet-bikes, I'm tempted to do a conversion job on one now. I still love some of the early Eldar minis, especially the original Eldar Guardians before they were even called Guardians. I guess Eldar were never as popular as other armies in gaming but they were my favourite. Right now I'm trying to put together an original War Walker (my single favourite RT-era Eldar model) and a Dreadnought; pinning the limbs is almost impossible but I figured out a way to do it. I wish they'd been better designed.

@dekai7992 3 года назад

Dude, it's so much fun witnessing how much fun you're having!

@apinakapinastorba 2 года назад

Hehe, now I imagine this chaplain jetting over the battle lines and shouting ”… FOR THE EMPER …” and disappearing in the distance XD

@BullScrapPracEff 3 года назад

Interesting take. Good sculpting advice. Nice retro paint job.

@spidey0804 3 года назад

yeah.... 86 cast im about 90% sure that is a lead model...might want to keep those gloves on. Gotta love rouge trader models.

@petermartin9224 3 года назад

You made that look too easy Jay! Fantastic stuff. I did wonder if you were going to let the crozier head just go to waste 😉 got to admit, seeing the 2nd edition WH40k logo in the thumbnail sent a shiver down my spine.

@lemsdarkapprentice2535 2 года назад

for the beads/rivets, you can also use the balls from water filters; you get thousands + they're a good size for 28/32mm mini's [el'sda2].

@gamerhalim4717 3 года назад

Fantastic work of art 👍 from Indonesia 🇮🇩 modeler

@Drathul Год назад

Dear me you've made me feel old. I remember these minis when they were new :(

@CarrowMind 7 месяцев назад

A model of this paint quality would have been proudly displayed in any Games Workshop store back in the 90's front and center, in fact if Golden Demon was around back in those days it may have even won first place!

@bday3775 Год назад

I love the old rocket cycles!! So much so that I made a resin cast and all of my Iron Warriors bikers ride em, with ape hanger handlebars of course. 😁

@jeffreylay-harker6910 2 года назад

Awesome, love you even more for the brand of drill.

@Andaril2 2 года назад

1:59 I got 2 drawers in desk of those and 3-4 boxes of those in attic so totaly understandable hava a nice day.

@lazyvipurr4698 Год назад

You keep the backs for the inspiration it brings and like any artwork, it is to be admired :]

@bretts2356 3 года назад

I just started the video. Did Jay die trying? Is this actually a snuff film? The suspense is killing me!

@bretts2356 3 года назад

TLDW: Jay did not die. So ... yay?

@mayomonkey420 3 года назад

This is extremely online

@jherazob 3 года назад

Maybe he's undead now, we have no way to know

@terryelder9573 9 месяцев назад

Man that kitty lite in the cotton SERIOUSLY made it look realistic. Prior to that it looked a little funny but seeing the rocks.. wow. Totally going to have and give this a try

@punishedtech7505 2 года назад

wonderful stuff, don't think I could bring myself do any conversion work on a model more than 10 years old, especially anything out of print. Great job on the banner!