Britain's Expensive Falklands Commitment 

Nope, the falklands were taken in 1833, when the english took all the argentinean people out of the island, we were an independent country by 1816

@ Nacho Ferraro You are mistaken inasmuch as when the Royal Navy returned to the Falkland Islands with two vessels in December, 1832 (Port Egmont) and January, 1833 (Puerto Louis) to re-assert the 1776 British claim of sovereignty over the whole archipelago, they did NOT expel the existing population, consisting mainly of gauchos and fishermen. In fact, the British Captain of HMS Clio, James Onslow, encouraged the gauchos to stay, paying them in silver coins for stores and provisions, since they had not been paid by Luis Vernet, the islands' so-called governor who had been appointed by the government of the United Provinces of the Río de la Plata in 1829 but was officially disputed by the then UK government. This is a matter of historical record, and both British and Argentine sources confirm this at the time.

@@kurt44mg42 the islands were occupied by continental people way before our Independence in 1816. The islands were considered part of Viceroyalty of Rio de LA pLATA, established by Spain in 1776 in Buenos Aires AND SO when the independence came in 1816 they were passed to Argentina. Still under argentine control in 1833 when they were effectively occupied by force by the british. This is a fact. English vessels may have visited the islands. Also may want to investigate what the ''invasiones inglesas'' of 1806 and 1807 are, back when Argentina was a colony two attempts were made to invade Buenos Aires coasts. First invasion in 1806 led by John Withelocke and scond in 1807 by William Carr Beresford. Both failed, resisted by the militia and civilians, and regiments such as Regiment of Patricios which is still in service. Britain would fight Argentina again in 1845 (Batalla de Vuela de obligado). It is aprox. in the same period that britain occupied the islands and also many colonies in all the world. You can analice all isolated as many prefer, also thewar in 1982, or instead note that the crown relyies in their navy as a matter to gain strategic situated places, and also should investigate what are the uses of these lands. The british do not stay there simply to protect the population. The british claims of soberany are backed only by saying ''it is her majesty territory'', as any lands the majesty points are british. Even at the otrher side of the world. No one all these british people got there at 11000 km except to back the colonization. The referendum of course will say they want to be british, but simply because they are the sons and grandsons of people brought there! what they can say if not that? Plus all the economic stuff and that the british media demonize the Argentine... see dozens of veterans visit the islands and they get to film the journey of a Argentina's veteran who, by coincidence is against Argentina's claim! Seriously. But I know the documental is good enough for the british as only a few of them understand spanish, and their knowledge of the war events and history is heavily modified in favour of Englands posture. Therefore most think they have a more or less consistent idea of malvinas and the story around, and should not be blamed, there is no option. The winning side often dominates the most difused account of events. Spanish is a difficult language just like English and many others. As for the self determination. England did not care for self determination during 200 years when occupied 90 territories in the world, and changed their flags, language and took control of their resources. England during all that time had its navy and mercenaries searching the world for lands and resources. And now is the first country to demand respect to self determination (?) MANY BRITISH say ''the argentine educate, adoctrinate the children in the schools, saing that malvinas are argentine''. (??) First of all, all government in the world have a vote on the education of children of their territory, letsbe honest, education is not innocent of strategic issues, specially in the UK, i could say the same ''british are adoctrinated thinking hte Falklands are theirs''. Or that in all wars they THINK they were the ''good ones'' and that it was all ''to free people'': the police of the world toghether with the US. By coincidence these are the countries that in the end put hands over the resources. The fact uk does control the islands does not ban the others to think differently. OR that as any independent country, we have right to think differently and state a claim, specially when you have so many reasons to think the Malvinas are argentine or should be. At least consistet compared with ''it s her majesty's territory''. Chile was an ally of Great Britain during the 1982 war. Chile was ruled by a bloody dictator, Pinochet, but Great Britain had no problem in accepting their help, ironically at the same time they were fighting other dictatorship.

@@ignacioferraro8625 The Falklands have been British since 1765 you idiot 😂😂

Sorry, if it was not the US occupying Hawaii, it would be someone else. Pick your poison.

Yup... your typical left wing and anti western douchebag from the so called Mainstream media...

Money well spent though. I support the Islanders in their wishes, and they wish to remain British.

Gary Dodgson i think it was satire

@@shrek_has_swag2344It was, quite funny I thought

And now they found oil there.

@@sweynforkbeard8857 I think they knew it was there before all the fighting

@@mariacornwallis1602 Wouldn't make much sense to buy F35s and build two new air craft carriers if there wasn't oil there. The actual reason for the Falklands war was that neither the English Prime Minister nor the Argentinian head of state could afford politically to back down. As to the knowledge about the oil, that is speculative.

UK stole the islands in 1833

I don't like the sound of that.

Rob Smith I do. And so do the rest of my fellow countrymen.

Nope it won't your Empire has been declining for a long time now, will it be able to defend its colonial outposts next time?

How? Let me see ... with the Typhoon Eurofighter and the Lightning II fighter, Type 45 destroyers and Type 23 Class frigates, Vanguard Class and Astute Class submarines, Queen Elizabeth Class aircraft carriers and the Challenger II tank. Plus a grim determination that "right is right". And what has Argentina got if it wants to be stupid enough to attempt another invasion? Twenty three A-4AR Fightinghawks which are upgraded 1970s airframes, four 1980s destroyers (currently out of service due to lack of funding), nine corvettes (ditto) and three small submarines (ditto). Does that answer your question?

Tulaenelorto brits will kick argentinas ass again if they have to

The Falklands are of Argentina.Why did England stole them???

@@Amoore-vv9wx Someday Argentina will be the owner again.I swear.I promese it.

@@diegoferreyra8025 they where never Argentinas to begin with. Argentinas borders where not defined untill the 1860s 30 years after we regained possession from Spain not Argentina

@@steve-iw2bg I mean.Argentina is very near.So the Falklands could be other territory of Argentina.

@@diegoferreyra8025 Chile is closer, don't make it Argentina.

yep its about time argentinians stop occupying and hand over argentina back to falkland. falkland have enought money to buy out the entire country, might as well do it

Oh come on. Even as a joke that’s ill conceived. The Falklanders need to grow their numbers, bring more people in. Otherwise all the talk of sovereignty will be for nought, when the United Kingdom comes to the realization that fighting for a seasonal community isn’t worth the muster or the money. It takes some coin to defend a far flung overseas territory. For it to be worth it, there had better be an actual folk to fight for.

Shetlands and Orkneys are no different....get over it!!!!!.

This is totally wrong, they might want to be english but the territory is still ours and the people who live there are just english people who are occupying the islands. They are not from there, as they justify they are english not islanders.

And btw , The falklands are Argentineans because after our independence from Spain we got the rights of the islands

So by that ...because you speak Spanish you should go back to Spain where you came from???.

No, we are a country the falklands is not an independent country, it's a 'British' island

it´s British people in Argentine soil. God save the Queen, kings, Pope, and everybody.

@@javiercavo1 Well no, because its our land isn't it, it may be near argentina but it is our land

Lol Argentine platform if you care to examine the ocean and the land rising. In fact West Falkland lies 193 miles east of Argentina's mainland. You lot certainly deserve to remain in possession of East Falkland

@pbr streetgang you should do the same mate; Occupied by British forces in 1765 until 1774 when London summoned their overseas forces at various locations including the Falklands, in order to regroup in North America to try to hold on to "the colonies"... Ring the bell yet ?🤣 You lot fought 1774 1775 and 1776 for nothing the United States was born and the battle at Saratoga was the point of complete surrender for Britain 49 years later Yes, forty-nine bloody years after that The UK remembered that there was a portion of ground in the south Atlantic way down they could check out again. But Argentina had peacefully and successfully inhabited and prospered in that region, from 1823 until 1832 when conflict unfolded You see how both nations have valid claims and neither party deserve the whole region? The solution is Plan SRP2018 East Falkland for Britain West Falkland for Argentina St Charles strait International line Respect and solidarity from that point forward Free class for today (normally I'd charge 100 quid for the lesson but today is fine) Cheers :D

The queen is an old, thief, usuper

@George Job next time invite the rest of the lads from the commonwealth, we can go straight to buenos aires and teach those cocaine sniffing goons on how to be civilised and how to not run a country into bankruptcy. it will be great banter and good fun watching their navy run again 🇦🇺 🇬🇧

So did the UK buddy As recently as 1972 Britain and Ireland were battling horribly Didn't you know that ? Also, the Brits historically have resolved their conflicts with other nations by dividing. Yes dividing: "you take this I take that" In this case the two islands are quite different. East Falkland has it all Let it stay as it has been since 1833 West Falkland should be under Argentina's administration for development (lacks infrastructure, yes the construction of modern plants and energy storage like Argentina did for East Falkland from 1971 to 1974... Even the airport was built by the Argentines...) Free history lesson for this time

@@deez1321 Pathetic comment This isn't Batman & Robin you know Buenos Aires is mostly built by British folks. You don't know a bloody thing about the culture, the transport the education the housing etc which ties both nations together. What Argentina tried in 1982 was quite what GB did in Buenos Aires in 1806 and 1807 But Maggie the maggot jumped the gun calling for a response as if it was a 1940 London surprise bombing ... The 1982 takeover was virtually bloodless the military man in charge gave orders to treat anyone in the Falklands as Argentine ppl as neighbours... No one died during the conflict except for 3 civilians dead by scraps from UK missiles... Greed was the enemy Not just Maggie the maggot and her obsession with power and ovation. The arg minister of foreign relations was a POS who refused to meet his British peer in NYC and decide a plan together where options convenient for both would be worked out. The arrogant prick simply said We have nothing to talk about The real solution convenient to both (especially in this time of brexit) is Plan SRP2018 East Falkland for Britain West Falkland for Argentina St Charles strait International line Solidarity and friendship forevermore

​ @jp codnia How ironic and jesus man, the ammount of mental gymanastic skill you have, you could have gone gold in the olympic. And I say again, what culture does argentina have other than drugs? nothing, like you say, even your architecture is built by brits. dont act like it was a surprised, argentina INVADED british sovereignty. imagine assaulting someone and pretending to be suprised that they hit back or the cops come and arres you. the only one seeking greed and power is YOUR government, it was YOUR government who wanted to invade so they can secure an election, maggie only responded to the citizens of the commonwealth plea for help. the folks living in falklands hated argie occupation, they called for help and they got it. just let it go argie, falklands was not yours, never was, theres british blood on that island that can be traced back to before argentina even existed. the only reason you think its yours is because your govenment told you so, so they can fool smooth brains such as yourself to keep voting for them

@@jpcodnia9133 remember also the short period of time that the argies owned the falkland they went bankrupt and the brits bought back their land stolen from the spanish

Argentina wants it because our feeling... not because the money...

+Mikey C How about 907 killed and 2,432 wounded - is that a high enough price for you?

1000 I guess

Go girl, best comment on this section.

+Laque Tepario It is not a question of wanting Patagonia but rather of making it clear to Argentina what it risks if it were to go to war again to seize The Falklands. Argentina has a weak point in the South and an uneasy relationship with Chile. Britain should exploit that to the full if Argentina posturing gives way to something worse.

+ANDREW SPENCE LMFAO you pretend to take Patagonia and Antarctic Argentina while Argentina and Chile are enemies? I don't think so, Chile is Latin American and never would help you again like a neoliberal Pinochet (not elected by the people) did once.

If Argentina were to try changing its borders by force (by attacking The Falkland Islands), Chile would wonder if it were next. Remember the dispute over The Beagle Channel? Frontiers in South America are often poorly-established and there are plenty of simmering territorial disputes. Try a repeat of 1982 and the chances are that Argentine would have more than just the British to contend with. Throw British cruise missiles into the equation (something that was missing in 1982) and Argentina´s bases look very vulnerable. Add: (1) an Argentine Air Force that is significantly weaker than in 1982; (2) a small but well-equipped British airfield on the islands; (3) lack of surprise (you can be sure the British are using spy satellites and have much better ´intel´ now) and any fool (even one like Kirchner) can see that an invasion is a non-starter. It is also very likely that there is at least one British hunter-killer sub on patrol with weapons that would wreak havoc on an invasion fleet. Next time round, it would not be an old former US cruiser (the Belgrano) that goes down, it would be at least a carrier and a couple of amphibious warfare ships). Back in 1982, Britain did not use the economic weapon but if Argentine were to try another take-over of The Falklands, I think it quite likely that efforts would be made to push Argentina into debt default and another ´corralito´. Waging war requires a strong economy and a powerful industrial base and Argentina has neither.

+ANDREW SPENCE You don't know nothing about the frontiers in South America, maybe you're confusing them with Arabia or Israel by the fact to talking the same language, Macri will put a wall in the Bolivian border and deport all the illegals that form the slums in Argentina. "subs and satellites", you brits live with lots of paranoid about that. Argentina will never occupies again the islands, there are smarter ways to achieve the possession of it.

The two ´Wars of The Pacific´ in the 19th Century and various territorial claims and counter-claims since reveal the potential for conflict in South America. Another Argentine attack on The Falkland Islands has the potential for re-opening this Pandora´s Box. The fact that Argentina finally climbed down over its claims to The Beagle Channel (the dispute with Chile) was a longer-term consequence of The Falklands War. If there were another war, Britain would not be satisfied by the ´status quo ante bellum´ - Argentina would have to pay a higher price for defeat (a ruined economy, loss of its Antarctic bases, etc.) if only to spell out the cost of future military adventures. You cannot say you have not been warned.

Dun Hilda Pride and honour is priceless

UK stole the islands in 1833

@@SM-zm5xt No they didn't lol

That would be 2000 seals.

+Ricardo Xorge Y yo apoyo a Chile en la demanda Boliviana por mar, si quieren costas ganenselas bolitas!!!

+Ricardo Xorge Well you have the right to think what you like, by reasoning or by ignorance. The inhabitants of the islands are mostly british not for a circunstance where naturally the british migrated there in more cuantities than Argentines, but becouse migrations in that colony is strictly controlled as with most colonial outpost. Britain has currently 10 territories under colonialism. Instead, in continental Argentina. We embrace bolivian inmigration that comes here in enormous numbers to have a better life than in their own nation. Did you ever heard of a Bolivian being deported by Argentina?. Without mention that many many of our shanty towns are composed mostly by Bolivian or Paraguayan inmigrants. We give them free medical service, free education, economic support, while at the same time your nation export to us many of YOUR most violent criminals. And still, you are not being deported from here. I would very much like to know if the same open arms policy regarding Bolivians are implemented in the Malvinas Islands. Even in Boliva, Argentines have more barriers to reside there than Bolivians in Argentina. Good luck.

That's none argument, THE FOKLANDS ARE ARGENTINEAN TERRITORY

The islands are nearer to Chile than to Argentina. So why should Argentina have them?

Only about 2500 people and 3000 penguins live on the Malvinas Islands. Most of the people are old and are of British extraction. Young people do not want to live there. The Malvinas was discovered by France. France sold the islands to Spain and Britain stole the islands from the Spanish. The North Americans murdered the native Indians in America and the Australians murdered the native Aborigine people of Australia.

Sure let me know when that 4800lbs of worthless British hot air junk of trash needs a tow back to London harbor I can help out...if england needs a hand well here it is ! ..!

Ricardo Torres Ha Ha Ha Ha .............well if it does we can send the other one HMS Prince of Wales............TTFN.

Don't you mean the princess of Wales ...! Another British hual of a mixture old fart bedpans From nursing homes and razor blades melted together blessed with English pomposity ..! Might as well call it the unsinkable 2 becuase the first one sunk hahaha right back at you!

Ha Ha Ha Ha ..................Sunk????, What a load of shit you talk. Rule Brittania. ,,,,,,,Bye Bye loser !!!.

Actually it didn't, that's HMS Hood you're talking about which exploded due to a lucky shot to the ammunition magazine, Prince Of Wales actually survived that battle and went home after a brave two-to-one struggle to fight another day. Regardless though go ahead, mock the memory of the thousands of sailors who gave their lives for their country, that's the honourable and just thing to do, and will surely make the world more sympathetic to your claims...

I don't disagree... but I would like to point out that for some time British ships were not allowed access to Brazilian ports and harbours. HMS Gloucester was turned away at the time. And more recently several nations; Brazil, Argentina, Paraguay and Uruguay; decided that any boat flying the falklands flag would be refused entry.

peuterschmidt yes but that is a token silly gesture, trade remains unaffected and under 0.5% of our shipping docks there so it has no impact on our navy....and all the ships have to do is fly the red ensign or UK flag and they can dock as normal.....so its a useless gesture, and our warships travel with supply vessels that provide all they need so its a worthless gesture.

peuterschmidt So if we want to dock there and we have no need to at all then we simply fly the red ensign and there is no issue.....and remember HMS Dragon our newest £1 billion destroyer is in chile right now visiting so why do we need to dock any where else?????

It is an action none the less. That was my point. And the reason Dragon is in Chile is precisely for this reason... Chile did not sign up to the sanctions against us.

peuterschmidt There is NO sanctions against us....for instance Brazil's new warships are built in UK. There are no embargo;s or trade sanctions we simply have to take 2 mins to swop a flag so there are no sanctions just a protocol they would like us to observe.

"Mexico backs England?" YOU MUST BE CRAZY AS HELL !!! Mexico does not back England.

@Soreofhing, thank you, we may've had disputes in the past but we're allies now and hopefully will continue to be.

Your country literally has no control over your own land just look at it its a shit hole so why not rise above your corrupt population and make a good country of yourself or did Spain just teach your how to speak cock.

Mexico,Chile, Britain :*

Hahahaha slow down taco

Sunk with honour in the line of duty. Argentinian navy cowered in port and lost the war.

Argentina inherited Spains rights in South America. Hard to get it?

Tulaenelorto So your saying, Stolen land is yours to keep. Same as your saying that the British stole the Falklands and they can't keep it ? You sir have double standards or put it another way your acting like a child. "What is mine is mine and what is yours is also mine"

Tulaenelorto Argentina is a nation built of land stolen from the natives. Practice what you preach, Leave your occupied land and give it back to the natives. Hard to get?

tarsung Well said about the double standards. Argentinians constantly moan about how GB "stole" the Falklands but they stole Patagonia from the indigenous natives during the Conquest of the Desert in the 1870s & 1880s (well after GB first occupied the Falklands). They're so proud of the amount of natives they killed and displaced that they even commemorate it on their money. Funny how they never say that, because Patagonia wasn't part of the territory when they "inherited Spain's rights", it should now be given back.

tarsung that the UK imperial logic. Argentina became heirs of the Spanish claim and you can not pretend it is not so.

You cant trust on some comments here. But you can do a further investigation and you will find many arguments for the Argentine position. Just make some research.

admsitio there are no legitimate arguments for the Argentine position, otherwise Argentina would take it to the ICJ, they have not because the Argentine government knows it has built this whole thing up over decades by lying to their people. Now they cant back down.

no, aint worthy, you don't have idea what you're saying

O yes I do I've been there I lived there have you oopps have you fuck

The UK has never had....EVER 70% Muslim population....EVER and even today it is only 7% asian whilst in Argentina the Chinese are flooding in....you will be under Chinese rule soon......But as a third world broken corrupt shit hole that is defenceless and weak i suppose you will want to be Chinese.

Elliot Oneill I think you are a teenager. Ill leave you to discover history before i school you myself.

Cristianadrian Pereyra God save the queen

Cristianadrian Pereyra God save the queen

+bannon1000 volveremos y sera para siempre

+Gary Numan The USA doesn't have to give up ANYTHING. However, if the USA ordered it, England WOULD give up the Falklands. You are our little bitches - get used to it !

Mary A Negative. The US told us go to the negotiating table with Argentina and we simply said there is nothing to negotiate. So I feel your statement is completely false and also moronic.

+Gary Numan Time will tell.

+Mary A Time will tell? Yes it will.....we have only been saying it for almost TWO HUNDRED YEARS......ha ha ha ha ......How much time do you need? ha ha ha ha ha ha.

+Mary A Shut up you ignorant moron.

Fishing , farming ,Tourism, Oil .

+chris hardman It has all it needs mate

+bannon1000 imagine a mcdonalds an asda and 450 new homes and more can you imagine the argies faces fucking funny

+chris hardman ha ha ha ha..........I think a palace for Princess Charlotte would be the icing on the cake......so she can rule them from there...........Princess Charlotte the Empress of the South Atlantic

Brilliant mate

To be fair to the British, they did an over-all better job of building in building infrastructure and preparing their 'colonies' for independence than other European countries. Name one former French colony which isn't a piece of garbage now.

USA fought to germany,iltaly and japan

rampking1, you really are thick as shit for making a comment like that!

Sunk with honour in the line of duty. Argentinian navy cowered in port and lost the war.

and they are very pro EU too.

Sunk with honour in the line of duty. Argentinian navy cowered in port and lost the war.

Like they would know! Malvinas is a bastardized Spanish understanding of the French name for the islands, The Malouines, as France were the first to settle them, followed by Britain. I tried some online translators for Malouines and they interpreted it as Falklands. I guess it would be wise to ask a Frenchman for the etymology.

@@poppedweasel I understand that the French sailors who first discovered or settled the Islands were from St Malo, in France, and they named the Islands in honour of their home port. They were not, however, the first to record discovery of the Islands. It was, in fact, an English Captain who made the first certain recorded sighting of the Islands. He named the sound between the main Islands Falkland Sound in honour of his Patron and the name eventually spread to the Islands themselves.

That's right, Captain John Strong made the earliest recognized recording of the islands. I have heard it said of another English captain and a Dutchman who had supposedly noted the islands earlier but I don't recall their names. Thankyou for the information regarding St Malo. I was not aware of that.

Thank you for the explanation.

+rcx8666c But their pay is ENORMOUS compared to what Argies get paid. All the incomes you mention are far, far greater than the pittance Argies are paid.....perhaps why the Islanders are one of the regions wealthiest communities.

+bannon1000 FULKLANDERS EACH GET A BIG YEARLY WELFARE CHECK CURTESY OF THE BRITISH GOVERNMENT AND TAXPAYER

+rcx8666c How desperately sad that this is your claim to history....

bannon1000 Britain is being sued by 14 Caribbean countries demanding what could be hundreds of billions of pounds in reparations for slavery. Around 175 years after Britain freed its last slaves in the West Indies, an alliance of Caribbean nations is demanding to be repaid for the 'awful', lingering legacy of the Atlantic slave trade.

Argentina to take legal action against UK for Falklands drilling Buenos Aires is looking to sue London for British firms' exploration in the Falklands, as two companies announce they have discovered valuable reserves....Argentina has announced that it is planning to take legal action against the UK for its oil exploration around the Falkland Islands. In a day of heightened anti-Britain rhetoric, President Cristina Kirchner also scoffed at Britain’s reinforcing of the islands’ defence - and urged Britain to spend its money instead on ending unemployed people’s reliance on food banks.

+rcx8666c There is no basis fr legal action so whilst her empty and meaningless nonsense impresses you lot at home in reality nothing has been done about because nothing legally can be done it is just noise.