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Bronco & Mosquito vs Super Tucano & Pucara: Dogfight | DCS 

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@michaelsublet3283
@michaelsublet3283 2 года назад
Look up the video of a F-16 shooting down a Bronco.
@grimreapers
@grimreapers 2 года назад
Yup did it here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-I3fQUP2xdtA.html
@javiercarnelutti3674
@javiercarnelutti3674 2 года назад
The Brazilian Super Tucano IRL is actually good at taking down slow flying aircrafts, like drug smuggling Pipers and Cessnas. They do a really good job.
@williamcampbell4740
@williamcampbell4740 2 года назад
Interesting fact CAP, the Tucano for the RAF was built in the UK, Shorts Brothers in Northern Ireland built them. Up until a couple of years ago we still had the full scale fatigue test airframe mounted in the test rig. The test airframe had to be kept 'ahead' of the flying aircraft in 'flying hours' to identify any problems before they were experienced in flight. Another production airframe in use was instrumented and used to validate the results from the fatigue rig! What about a rematch with RAF Shorts Tucano and OV10 vs the south americans?
@henry247
@henry247 2 года назад
The Tucano and the Super Tucano are different aircrafts...the Short Tucano is based on the T-27 Tucano...not on the A-29 Super Tucano
@stylller100
@stylller100 2 года назад
It is very ignorant to compare the A27/tucano with the A29, they are different aircraft, different powers, different sizes, structural technology and onboard electronics are totally different...#US #NY
@God_of_War198
@God_of_War198 7 месяцев назад
It was not shown in the video but the A29 super tucano can use more than just 12.7mm cannons but short-range air-to-air missiles, which can be aimed at by the HMD Helmet Mounted Display presentation system installed on the helmet here in Brazil we use the missiles American AIM-9 Sidewinder on our toucans
@pierrelahaie6359
@pierrelahaie6359 2 года назад
The Mosquito has the best sound. No help at all in a dogfight, but for the watchers....cool!
@dexlab7539
@dexlab7539 2 года назад
“Hello Valued Viewers”…my favorite phase of each day 😊
@danielearley5062
@danielearley5062 2 года назад
And 'In the Face'!
@m1t2a1
@m1t2a1 2 года назад
Mosquito. Fastest plane here, manoeuvrable, best armed. Actually designed with dogfighting in mind, sort of. Possibly made in Canada. Don't dogfight against the new planes. Climb, dive, slash, repeat. Broad sweeping moves to maintain speed. Best above 25 000 feet, better at that altitude than anything here. Keep the fight high. Then it's like using a gun in a knife fight. Taking candy from a baby, by breaking said child's fingers, which sounds more fun than it is.
@No1sonuk
@No1sonuk 2 года назад
The version of Mosquito in the game is the FB, so better suited to ground attack at low altitude (and doesn't have pressurised cockpit).
@m1t2a1
@m1t2a1 2 года назад
@@No1sonuk I didn't know that, but don't see the difference. The fighter bomber version was a very capable fighter. Without bombs, rockets or external tanks it's still a DH-98. Use its strengths. No fighters have a pressurized cockpit, do they? That's what the oxygen mask is for.
@No1sonuk
@No1sonuk 2 года назад
@@m1t2a1 Some Mosquitos did. Also, IIRC, the engines aren't one of the more powerful variants.
@nurglesdad
@nurglesdad 2 года назад
Really enjoyed that. I love the long range bombing/intercept missions, but close quarters dogfighting with a bunch of planes not designed for it was fun to watch.
@warbuzzard7167
@warbuzzard7167 2 года назад
Amazing work, lads. The A29 seems deadly - I bet it would have been something to reckon with during WWII. I'd love to see the Tucano go up against every World War 2 fighter you could muster in DCS or IL2, assuming there's a Tucano mod for that sim.
@antoniohagopian213
@antoniohagopian213 2 года назад
IRL it beats them all. But in dcs it needs a lit of work still for the FM.
@rubiconnn
@rubiconnn 2 года назад
I mean it has a modern flight control system and weapons system. If you could retrofit that into a P51 I'm sure it would kick ass in WW2.
@MarkoDash
@MarkoDash 2 года назад
@@rubiconnn PA-48
@Anarchy_420
@Anarchy_420 2 года назад
Yo Cap! Thanks for this!😁👍 Lol precisely they're not intended for dogfighting and that's what makes it sooo freakin interesting and entertaining! Sometimes the unusual request are the best ;)
@Anarchy_420
@Anarchy_420 2 года назад
12:13 hell yeah! That's what I've been dying to see! Lol to everyone who thought The Pucara would dominate The Mosquito lol take that!😆👍 btw my request was Mosquito VS Pucara!😁✌
@yahukondalast3718
@yahukondalast3718 2 года назад
I love these planes! I would love to see more missions involving these aircraft as a valued viewer please.
@MarkMeadows90
@MarkMeadows90 2 года назад
Not sure why, but the cockpit view of the Bronco sounds like someone is operating a lawnmower with the cutting blades activated lol
@DanBergmanSE
@DanBergmanSE 2 года назад
To be honest . Most unofficial mods do not act really realisticly.. the mossy should, even being the grand lady, have no issues.. the official planes behave more like they would , but they not perfect either.. like one 7.62 hit setting the engine on fire.. not what we know how it was in ww2
@fgialcgorge7392
@fgialcgorge7392 2 года назад
I'd love to see some light fighter bomber dog fights. It's extremely underrated but the P61 black widow would be great especially up against or alongside the Mosquito seeing as the were at one point being considered for the same job. Oddly The black widow won that contest but Britain had their own reasons for their choice and the Mosquito is great.
@PaperworkNinja
@PaperworkNinja 2 года назад
When the Skyraider comes out, there will be a reckoning.
@alaskanbas6507
@alaskanbas6507 2 года назад
Speaking of COIN, I'd really like to see the A-37 Dragonfly fulfil that role once it comes to DCS as well!
@grimreapers
@grimreapers 2 года назад
agree
@daniellee5192
@daniellee5192 2 года назад
Mosquito should not turn with them. Use P-40 versus Zero techniques, climb and dive.
@EliamDar
@EliamDar 2 года назад
Pucara is currently undergoing modernization under the name Pucara Fenix. New engines, electronics, night vision, data link...and more.
@grimreapers
@grimreapers 2 года назад
thx
@EliamDar
@EliamDar 2 года назад
@@grimreapers np, to be honest, maybe two or three are currently being upgraded. Here are the details of the project: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-KhMXhShAXLU.html&ab_channel=AeroArgMilitar%C3%ADaArgentina In spanish but the auto generated subtitles are mostly ok.
@seancarroll9849
@seancarroll9849 2 года назад
I'm surprised that the Mossy still has it, and we're talking about a WW2 warbird.
@juanmanuelterradas7920
@juanmanuelterradas7920 11 месяцев назад
The Douglas A-1 Skyraider was missing to complete the COIN aircraft club
@cruzerlououtdoors1940
@cruzerlououtdoors1940 2 года назад
does the bronco have dive brakes or maneuver flaps ? or even deploy landing flaps as a way to increase turn rate ? If so it would be hard to beat in a turn fight.
@imellor711
@imellor711 2 года назад
The obvious Winner in this video is the Mosquito....... as it's the only plane that had a full flight model and is just simply AWESOME👌 Wish ED would fix the Mosquito's stupid left roll and very bouncy pitch though.....
@No1sonuk
@No1sonuk 2 года назад
Did you fix the damage models and flight models of the mods? IIRC, they don't behave realistically if they use the SFM, but the Mosquito would.
@Rod58
@Rod58 2 года назад
Awesome show , you guys are the best😊
@cruzerlououtdoors1940
@cruzerlououtdoors1940 2 года назад
you should replace the Missy with an A1E Skyraider .
@reginaldbowls7180
@reginaldbowls7180 2 года назад
A10 vs P38! 😂
@jimrussell4062
@jimrussell4062 2 года назад
This kinda reminds me of a "Final Countdown" sorta scenario, where modern a/c show up in WW 2 or vice versa. It would be interesting to see which were ACTUALLY the most useful in another situation. It'd be tempting to say something like an F-16 would be the best to suddenly give to the Allies in WW 2 in a sci fi scenario, but... maybe something like the Tucano or OV-10 would be as effective (or maybe A-10) given that they would handle the grass fields and simple weapons much better. Fighting an FW-190 for example in the Battle of Britain, I don't know that an F-16 would that useful long term given it's limited ammo by comparison, and the tendency to have huge turning circles and be "too fast" for intercepts on much slower aircraft. In a campaign setting, once you run out of anything you were carrying in the "transition", I think an F-16 or F-18 could be at a severe disadvantage (not to mention the maintenance would be impossible while an OV-10 uses off the shelf private a/c parts which you could fabricate in 1940s Britain) and the OV-10 only uses "dumb" rockets and bombs so there's no loss of capability. Then again, it'd be a bit slow compared to say a P-38 or A-26 of the period. Just musing out loud.
@jedironin380
@jedironin380 2 года назад
Did you see their video of the OV-10 vs. the F-16? ;)
@Davros-vi4qg
@Davros-vi4qg 2 года назад
Mmmm….. a thirties design, a fifties design, and two 80s designs….. it’s the dogfight in a Tardis!
@mig1739
@mig1739 2 года назад
I love how the guy in the mosquito kept calling out enemies on the six after the pilot has already seen like 100 rounds pass over the canopy, like no shit Mr RP how about calling bogies on the tail before they start shooting at the plane.
@valuedhumanoid6574
@valuedhumanoid6574 2 года назад
I think it was Simba that said "bogey", Cap corrected and said "Bandit". I looked up the difference because I thought they were the same. But they're not. Bandit - identified enemy aircraft, known. Bogey - unidentified (possibly unfriendly, highly likely unfriendly) and Contact is just an aircraft detected and it totally unknown. Could be a enemy fighter, a friendly cargo plane or a civilian airliner. Now we all know. Cap was right. As usual.
@grimreapers
@grimreapers 2 года назад
:)
@Istandby666
@Istandby666 2 года назад
I think you could have another video type. Take 4 different aircraft from 4 different countries, be from the same era and aircraft equivalent to each other. I would love to watch you all dog fight. Oh, how about all 4 against each other? No holds barred.
@dpwellman
@dpwellman 2 года назад
The A26 Invader would have been cool to see, but it's a bit larger, but apparently able to turn once free of internal payload
@timblack6422
@timblack6422 2 года назад
It’s a great day!
@kurtreichenbach8927
@kurtreichenbach8927 2 года назад
Was a fun time there. RB
@danielearley5062
@danielearley5062 2 года назад
During WW2, Goering would give Luftwaffe pilots an additional 'kill' if they managed to shoot down a Mosquito, they were that good!
@n1co2017
@n1co2017 2 года назад
let’s be honest it’s not fair having a small nimble single prop aircraft that is essentially a more powerful p51 against big dual prop aircraft.
@johnjones928
@johnjones928 2 года назад
Personally I'd rather see them in a ground attack competition against troups and APC's.
@jedironin380
@jedironin380 2 года назад
The Mosquito would be great for that!
@jimrussell4062
@jimrussell4062 2 года назад
The Mossie is easily the fastest with the most horsepower and firepower... should be Boom n Zooming with it.
@Steven_Edwards
@Steven_Edwards 2 года назад
I'm a simple man, I see a new GR video, I click.
@Spectre-907
@Spectre-907 2 года назад
8:15 The bronco seems like its... idk not ready for release yet? It seemingly doesn't have a working damage model at all, and can take multiple gun passes as seen in other videos and even a head on collision here without going down or even really being disrupted
@jimrussell4062
@jimrussell4062 2 года назад
It's brand new, early release and a community module. The creator admits it's not complete yet. However, the damage module does seem better than some other "released" aircraft out there. Sometimes it's the game itself (lag, etc) that can make for some unusual situations (ie you think you hit, but to the server you're shooting off to the side... just like when on one team's screen the Pucara in match 6 was destroyed. On the other it was still flying.)
@wilsonspicher6690
@wilsonspicher6690 2 года назад
U forgot the sidewinders on tucano
@jedironin380
@jedironin380 2 года назад
These were great! I don't know why you were always so low, though. Especially with the faster planes, go for altitude, get some speed up, then go after the slower ones! Also, sometimes it's best to just clear the area, then circle around and try again. You got into a couple of "death spirals" there. I had to chuckle a few times about the city below being strafed so badly, too!
@jimiraybeckton
@jimiraybeckton 2 года назад
Has there ever been any thought of making a version of the Cessna A-37B? The Super Tweet! (Officially the Dragonfly). It’s a super cool plane, twin jet powered but really small. And made by Cessna! Anyway, another great video!
@FlyingWithSpurts
@FlyingWithSpurts 2 года назад
Saw one at an airshow once. Did a Double Immelmann on take-off, announcer said it's the only plane in the world that could do that without AB.
@simba1113
@simba1113 2 года назад
there isn't a player flyable mod for the A-37 yet
@FlyingWithSpurts
@FlyingWithSpurts 2 года назад
@@simba1113 With all the Vietnam assets coming out hopefully it won't be long. I know an old A-37 (among many other things) pilot who raved about how stable and accurate of a strafing platform it was.
@oliabid-price4517
@oliabid-price4517 2 года назад
The Shorts Tucano is a single engined fighter based aircraft - even though it is marketed as a ground attack aircraft primarily. It is not an equal test with the three other twins.
@reginaldbowls7180
@reginaldbowls7180 2 года назад
Piper cub vs Cessna 150!!!
@hemantteen
@hemantteen 2 года назад
Hey cap Do a F-14 vs F-15 vs F-16 drag and long race; both clean and full load. Also which aircraft can tail chase and overtake which other aircraft. Thanks
@davidspencer7254
@davidspencer7254 2 года назад
The Mossie is such a gorgeous plane who even cares about the rest?
@antoniohagopian213
@antoniohagopian213 2 года назад
1:11 Super tucano has 1600 horsepower, not 1000. The flight model needs work but the developer focused on getting the armament systems like flir working before finishing the FM. I have done multiple tests and got something that is closer to the real thing. I will send you on discord a version that works better for these dogfights if you don't mind. Edit: I just noticed the vid is above Beirut, hoped for a Lebanese livery. (It's available on dcs files)
@grimreapers
@grimreapers 2 года назад
Thanks quite a beast.
@ardyzink7928
@ardyzink7928 2 года назад
Hey Cap, could you talk anyone into making a Bristol Beaufighter, maybe? Also, I second the OV-1 Mohawk suggestion. And last, for now, the Cessna Bird Dog. You could make some nasty missions in CA .... find the enemy and direct the action from the air, etc. And, the Cessna T-37 could also be used as a standard jet trainer version, too. Keep up the good work. There's more to air combat then fast mover furballs. ps. you'll notice that the Bronco uses the same ammo that is available to the ground grunts, on purpose.
@DougthebearRichards
@DougthebearRichards 2 года назад
Cessna A-37 Dragonfly
@jedironin380
@jedironin380 2 года назад
Do they have a sim for the P-61 Black Widow? 4, 20mm cannon firing forward and 4, .50 BMG guns in a rotating turret would be killer!
@clangerbasher
@clangerbasher 2 года назад
You mentioned lag due to rendering of the cityscape. Doesn't the game have an option for a featureless terrain? Eg just ground and sky. Seems like such would be a sensible option.
@grimreapers
@grimreapers 2 года назад
I think it does have something similar yes.
@clangerbasher
@clangerbasher 2 года назад
@@grimreapers I was thinking it might help with some of your testing.
@jsublett8871
@jsublett8871 2 года назад
🤣 this was fun to watch
@dlow53
@dlow53 2 года назад
Can you do a mock attack on the Russian Black Sea Fleet by the Americans in Sevastapol Crimea? The US warned Russia that if nuked are used in Ukraine the will destroy Russian Black sea fleet. That would be interesting to see. If you done this already can you send me the link to that vid? Thanks
@tomasmarcataio2066
@tomasmarcataio2066 2 года назад
There were 2 draws you didn't count, just admit it, the Anglos lost 🤣🤣
@Dan-qp1el
@Dan-qp1el 2 года назад
Fun!
@onkelmicke9670
@onkelmicke9670 2 года назад
Pucara... I would like to see the Mohawk and the A-26 Invader ☺
@jimrussell4062
@jimrussell4062 2 года назад
3 turboprops and 1 piston.
@Allan_aka_RocKITEman
@Allan_aka_RocKITEman 7 месяцев назад
*I ❤️ TURBOPROPS* {Really.}
@MDC2020
@MDC2020 2 года назад
I want Reliant Robin spaceship dogfights
@jedironin380
@jedironin380 2 года назад
CLARKSOONNN!! 🤣
@MAYDAYSIMULATIONS
@MAYDAYSIMULATIONS 2 года назад
Fun idea....I feel bad for the mossy...having a flight model didn't do it any favors.
@grimreapers
@grimreapers 2 года назад
agree
@dmsdmullins
@dmsdmullins 2 года назад
Cap has the same problem as me, DCS is so dark...
@THeBoZZHoGG
@THeBoZZHoGG 2 года назад
So you need to do a super duper free mods so far extravaganza. With links to all the mods in the description. From planes to ships to cows, whatever is out there. A new consolidation video with every cool free thing that exists. This doesn't exist now right now, or least not that's easily found. I fired up DCS for the first time in year and it crashed because of the update to DCS and mod conflicts. Would be nice to have a repository for mods somewhere, even nicer to have a installer that grabs them for you(never hurts to dream).
@grimreapers
@grimreapers 2 года назад
I used to do this, but problem is the mod links and versions change so much, the vid is out of date within a few days and useless, hence I no longer bother.
@grimreapers
@grimreapers 2 года назад
We do have this: ru-vid.com/group/PL3kOAM2N1YJcbzwU5FCo0DRmCdF3owO1o
@Istandby666
@Istandby666 2 года назад
If you like the bronco now, wait till you get better engine's and armament.
@iandaniel1748
@iandaniel1748 2 года назад
The German ov 10 use jet engine on top or US ov 10 nogs version gun ship type
@gordonlumbert9861
@gordonlumbert9861 2 года назад
Mosquito shouldn't have been in a dogfight he should have kept his distance and used his speed and guns. If I remember right Bronco was built for supporting small units in the jungles of Vietnam.
@ecbst6
@ecbst6 2 года назад
My money's on the Mosquito.
@paulskowronski9509
@paulskowronski9509 2 года назад
turbo prop fighter vs jet fighter jet wins may not be able outturn them but can outclimb and outmaneuver them and can carry some pretty serious firepower and Cap did you know the A-10 warthog while not designed to dogfight can be a pretty mean dogfighter is it calls for it
@geek211
@geek211 2 года назад
a 7$ USD kabar leather sheath, fits perfectly, does take some tuning up, but Its super light, and it was the knife of the frontier, which later super heavy bowies were based on.
@LondonSteveLee
@LondonSteveLee 2 года назад
Shame there no Hawker Tempest - I'm sure this timeless beauty wold spank the lot of 'em.
@liamburns8176
@liamburns8176 2 года назад
Hey cap nice flying from all really enjoyed this 2v2 dogfight Would love to see an early 1980s carrier group pre f18 so f14, A6, A7 & A8 vs late 90s / 2000 russian carrier group
@DougthebearRichards
@DougthebearRichards 2 года назад
Would have been better to use a couple of Cessna A-37 Dragonflies against the South Americans.
@EfftupSmith
@EfftupSmith 2 года назад
mozzie sounds the best.
@LoneWolf051
@LoneWolf051 2 года назад
speed and altitude is everything in a dogfight, Im not seeing anyone managing their speed and trying to keep an altitude advantage, too wrapped up in trying to shoot at the enemy that you forget to actually fly the planes
@jedironin380
@jedironin380 2 года назад
This!
@UkDave3856
@UkDave3856 2 года назад
Which if any of these mods pass the integrity test?
@grimreapers
@grimreapers 2 года назад
None
@Amantla
@Amantla 2 года назад
How many times are you gonna get the aircraft name wrong cap? cheese and rice....
@Hashashin74
@Hashashin74 2 года назад
Mosquito was built in Downsview Ontario Canada. So yes Noth American made
@mrlodwick
@mrlodwick 2 года назад
Capt you rock my wife loves you and she has big milks.
@grimreapers
@grimreapers 2 года назад
This is important!
@bearcatracing007
@bearcatracing007 2 года назад
Moooo
@ozjohnno
@ozjohnno 2 года назад
Tocano for the win
@RainbowDash-vy2dn
@RainbowDash-vy2dn 2 года назад
No Violet?
@silas4lagoon776
@silas4lagoon776 2 года назад
Cap, can you do a video on wether or not the grim reapers can protect taffy 3 during the Battle of Samar? I feel that it would be a very appropriate subject you you since during the battle, the aircraft used a wild assortment of just about every weapon available except for rocks and kamikasis. For reference, here is a great video by Drachinifel that goes over the subject m.ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-4AdcvDiA3lE.html
@sundai4486
@sundai4486 2 года назад
as beautiful as the OV-10 is, it is completely underpowered and under armed. What a disgrace the US military did by acquiring those. Even civilian passenger turboprops have more power..... Im thinking a dogfight between the Marchetti Super Tocano and some WWII warbirds, P-51, Bf-109 would be show worthy......
@jimmyjohnjames6397
@jimmyjohnjames6397 2 года назад
In it's defense the OV-10 was good at it's actual job. Not really fair to say it's a crummy fighter when it was never intended to do any dogfights. I think something like a Skyraider would have been better, but DCS doesn't have one.
@camiloparra6160
@camiloparra6160 2 месяца назад
Colombian OV10 Bronco
@summerskie
@summerskie 2 года назад
Second
@davidwhiteley3879
@davidwhiteley3879 2 года назад
Congrats on pronouncing Pucará correctly, but shame on not spelling it correctly.
@Anarchy_420
@Anarchy_420 2 года назад
F-16I Sufa VS F-15STOL/MTD Fox2 Dogfight F4U Corsair VS A-1 Skyraider F-86 Sabre VS A-10 Thunderbolt II P-47 Thunderbolt VS SU-25 Frogfoot J-10 VS SU-27 Super Tucano VS MIG-15 J-7 VS MIG-21 MB-339 Aerimacchi VS AJS-37 Viggen F-1 Mirage VS Panavia Tornado MIG-28 VS MIG-29 Guns Only Dogfight Please fly Planes on the left however in some feel free to swap😁🙏
@jamesbrown5262
@jamesbrown5262 2 года назад
Air rams are lame.
@mohan6639
@mohan6639 2 года назад
first
@voradfils
@voradfils 2 года назад
angloids btfo
@Sven2157
@Sven2157 2 года назад
I am a 1:54 in, you asked, I am answering ... I think the Squiter (pronounced, SKI ter)!
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