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Brupeg's Engine Dyno Test - Full power on Vege oil - Project Brupeg Ep.294 

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Finally our newly rebuilt main engine is ready to go on the DYNO! We even had the opportunity to test it on vegetable oil!
Have a look and see how it went... we were able to measure things like fuel burn rates at cruise and full power for both fuels as well as all engine parameters like exhaust gas temp, horsepower, torque etc. Dame and Duncan were very responsible playing with the big engine, making the big engine noises, although Damien just realised he never touched the throttle once. This is the motor generously funded by our go-fund-me and patreons that we will be craned into Brupeg in the next month (all going according to plan)! Thank you everyone who donated and made this possible!
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@jonpratt1343
@jonpratt1343 Год назад
My 7.3 powerstroke that ran over 100,000 miles on straight veg had a coolant loop in the tank to maintain veg oil temp in the veg tank. Also a custom coolant jacketed fuel filter as well as insulated veg lines. Started on diesel, switched at 160 F degrees. Switched back to diesel before shutdown.
@ProjectBrupeg
@ProjectBrupeg Год назад
Jon that sounds almost identical to the system we are designing. Issue we have is our coolant only gets to 78c at cruise and 82c at full throttle. We need to lift the oil another 20c on top of that so we are thinking about exhaust heat or lube oil heat scavenging to bump it up high enough
@jonpratt1343
@jonpratt1343 Год назад
@@ProjectBrupeg Yes, true that a diesel in a truck creates more heat with acceleration where as a constant speed diesel like boat and heavy equipment engines might not. I met a lot of veggie drivers at an event we held annually called Greasestock. There were some that used supplemental inline electric heaters and one guy that used exhaust gasses to capture heat. Love the channel btw.
@aserta
@aserta Год назад
@@ProjectBrupeg Arctic weather heat exchanger. They look like a muffler, but they're a stainless steel plate sandwiched between two "boxes". On one side you have exhaust gasses, on the other you have the fuel. I've no clue who makes them, i know they exist because i was talking with our expedition mechanic, being curious about what exactly do they do to their trucks in such weather so the fuel doesn't reach the engine cold.
@bobbebbington5356
@bobbebbington5356 Год назад
Running on diesel before shutting down sounds like a good idea, otherwise the veg oil may gum up the injectors .
@gordonagent7037
@gordonagent7037 Год назад
Kudos to Carl also and old faithful Duncan, the master blaster
@EleanorPeterson
@EleanorPeterson Год назад
The ice cream guy in my neighbourhood [Yorkshire, north of England] runs his van on recycled cooking oil. It's quite confusing: his bing-bong🎵chimes say "Ice cream!", but his van's exhaust says, "Fish and chips!" 😁
@FrozenHaxor
@FrozenHaxor Год назад
It really smells like McD fryer from the exhaust? That's hilarious!
@williamhoskins2300
@williamhoskins2300 Год назад
carl.. your the man .
@shaneanderson9123
@shaneanderson9123 Год назад
Iove his dyno keep up the good work
@JonPMeyer
@JonPMeyer Год назад
You are going to be SO much safer out at sea with a freshly rebuilt and tested engine! I am really happy that this has worked out so well for you. You deserve this success.
@JohnBare747
@JohnBare747 Год назад
Seeing the engine running makes me happy for the very small amount I was able to donate to it's creation. It's awesome that so many folks came together to make this very nice engine happen for Brupeg.
@almac2598
@almac2598 Год назад
Lovely donkey!
@patric3917
@patric3917 Год назад
Jess and Damien, a couple so bold, Set out on a mission, a tale to be told. Brupeg, a sunken trawler, they found, A diamond in the rough, in waters profound. With love in their hearts, they toiled away, Sweating and working, day after day. Damien's welding, his passion so bright, Creating a new boat, bringing it to light. Jess, with her spirit, so full of life, A partner in every moment, in every strife. Together they worked, side by side, Bringing Brupeg back to life, with pride. The boat transformed, a vision so clear, A research vessel, for all to cheer. The oceans so vast, now open to all, A voyage of discovery, no longer a crawl. With Brupeg's sails, they journey afar, To the edge of the world, with no fear or bar. Jess and Damien, with hearts so true, A testament to love, to dreams that come true.
@AlisonFort
@AlisonFort Год назад
Engine seems to run beautifully👍One penguin to another: ‘I’m sure I can smell chips?’ (Sorry, couldn’t resist…)
@waynerudiger1756
@waynerudiger1756 Год назад
This video did not disappoint. So good to see it purring away on the Dyno. Really interesting to get the hard data on the two fuels. Awesome what Carl did to take the engine to the top end of the spec. Can't wait to see it in Brupeg.
@jamarie1972
@jamarie1972 Год назад
What a great job Carl has made on this rebuild. Brupeg is one lucky boat getting this installed. Hope your doing ok Jess and keeping as well as possible. Take care great video as usual guy’s.
@andrewmullen4003
@andrewmullen4003 Год назад
Loved the little tongue in cheek VW diesel, lol
@bobbobson4607
@bobbobson4607 Год назад
Look into using a heat exchanger line between the oil tank and engine block with the hot coolant out line jacketing the oil feed to the injectors. I've see the veg oil guys in colder climates use them with good results. Also, a stainless electric heating element and a PID controller would help heat up quicker and maintain optimal oil tank temps.
@thatdave86
@thatdave86 Год назад
What about using the heat from the gearbox?
@bobbobson4607
@bobbobson4607 Год назад
@@thatdave86 Since its going in a boat I don't think the gear oil will have a need to be cooled. without enough excess heat it wont be able to heat the veg oil up to the necessary temp to fuel the engine cleanly.
@justRD1
@justRD1 Год назад
Water brake. It uses the water in shear to apply load to the engine. The water shearing is what generates the heat.
@yachticus
@yachticus Год назад
you will probably cut a good third to half of the turbo scream with a proper bellmouth shaped trumpet on the inlet side of that turbo charger
@jaffasoft8976
@jaffasoft8976 2 месяца назад
Nothing like running veg oil and the feeling its awesome to stick the finger up at the RIP OFF service stations on the way past running free veg oil and it feels better in the engine. I ran my 1HZ Toyota Coaster engine on veg oil, did the Murray Darling river system Australia last year, 3000 kilometer trip on the first go on 100% SVO, twin tank, filtered 20,10 micron. It had two heat exchangers in vehicle a 60 plate coolant heat exchange and a another one right before the IP. Heated boiled the oil over night in a drum campfire (it got REAL hot) from fish chip shops before filtering and putting in vehicle tank, started on cold svo stopped cold veg oil (this was probably a big mistake). I though oh it ran so good it doesn't need to start on diesel and stop on diesel. After the 3000 kilometer trip the brand new injection pump was filled with brown rusty looking sticky stuff, anything the stuff touched that was steel or metal was like that esp in the steel original tank, the other plastic tank was good and clean, plastic for everything is the go or stainless steel, the vain pump was that stuck with it, the vain wouldn't come out so it wasn't pumping any more veg oil up. I broke down roadside and didn't go again. Took the pump off and rebuilt it myself and it running again on diesel as of now. Nightmare. Everything ran perfect for miles and miles on end until last few weeks it started to get rough. It seems all good but it slowly builds up junk in the injector pump and the injector tips were stuffed. Caked with black crap. It ran clear in the exhaust clear as a bell from 1 second after starting with a little puff black smoke to enitially start. I see you're setting up a vacuum pump old LPG filtering system and i watched the video and I'm currently building one (small scale) out of a LPG 45KG big bottle system as i was looking for answers how i can fix this situation. You may be eliminating the possible problems i had by doing this!!! Getting the Dissolved Water, Emulsified Water and the Free Water completely out is critical imo. Couple of things i learned and rules I'm putting in place for myself to always follow: 1). Heat oil 80-100C and cycle and filter in a 44 gallon drum and fanning the air to atmosphere and have a air fan blow it and filter to 1 micron a few times not just once. Maybe go through the filter cycling when its cooler to as too hot ruins filters. Cycle it as its cooling below 80C. 2). Put the oil in a vacuum and dehydrate water out. Just heating boiling does not get it all out. 2). Always do the basic crackle pan test oil before going in tank. 3). Always start on diesel get well hot and purge well on diesel. Will be interesting to see a video of the running filtration system you eventually settle into place. Its hard travelling as the stuff gets stirred up all the time in 44 gallon drums. I will probably to process 44 gallon drums on land at camp sites when stopping a few days to a week and using camp fires to heat and process the oil. Its easier if at home just settle the stuff for years in IBC 100 ltr containers and have heap of em and this is the stories you often hear most of ppl doing it. All the best thanks for the detailed video. The LPG design I've come up with will screw into any top 3/4" female fitting in the top of existing old LPG tanks and no welding or cutting into the existing tank and use a dairy vacuum or might use a old AC system yet still building it as i post. I will have a video on it on my channel when its finished and running. Look up Oil Burner RU-vid channel he has a good system worked out and simple and old school. I'm currently building the old small block chevy pump as as wvo pump as, one, it will handle volumes and two can handle the heat and constant RPM to move oil solid all day long and does cost a fortune.
@williammajor6768
@williammajor6768 Год назад
Your rebuild philosophy, and having Karl(?) on your team is genius! That motor is GOLG!
@wazza33racer
@wazza33racer Год назад
There is a guy in Canada, who has a 4-53 GM custom fitted to a Ford F-350. He is running veg oil, and found that water/methanol injection keeps carbon from clogging his injector nozzles and piston rings. I ran the NTC-855 Cummins in road trains during the 1980's and 1990's..........the Formula 350 is the best. Keep the revs at or below 1800rpm.......they dont like high revs. ALWAYS keep Cummins DCA or pre mix coolant in the cooling system otherwise electrolysis will eat the liners out. The NTC-855 can be very reliable, provided it gets a quality rebuild.........line bore the block,new head bolts,mains bolts, conrod bolts.......no short cuts. The CPL also denotes the fuel pump setup. The NTC-855 had a small cam version and a "Big Cam" version, the latter being better (less cam wear). Turbo's have improved enormously since the Big Cam "4" came out in mid 1980's. Ceramic coated exhaust manifolds and turbine blankets also make a difference to turbo spool and efficiency. Really interesting info you have on veg oil temp and performance relationship. Thanks ))
@kurtarmbrust
@kurtarmbrust Год назад
I took a whale watching trip on a boat running on recycled fryer oil. Darn thing smelled like french fries.
@pollyh3190
@pollyh3190 Год назад
What's the most ridiculous thing you think you've ever done because you saw something on TV, or a video, that made you think it could be a good idea. . . . Or maybe not. LOL Ordered a plasma cutter. Because this guy on RU-vid uses one to quickly cut metal, and he seems to have a lot of fun disassembling metal molecules, quickly. The real reason: a petulant pro- moron, next door, parks his huge, black, RV right next to _my_ Sun Facing Window of _my_ sewing room, condemning me to yet another season of daytime gloom. Watching BruPeg get sliced and diced every week it dawned on me I needed to cut a two metre skylight hole in his RV to let the Sun Shine In. Plasma cutter would be quick and somewhat stealthy so I could be finished before anybody got wise to the construction opportunity being Adventurized. Cool !, huh ? " Grandmother of six in court explaining sudden interest in metal fabrication tools for weekday vandalism jaunt. " Hmmm 🤔 Not 🚭🚫 But the idea 💡 made me smile and think of offering to cut a porthole in his RV, primer coat her hull, and launch her into the River. Do they make Plasma Cutters that run on the American 120V AC Mains? Thanks guys, it is so awesome watching you build the frickin Pyramids on the hard with dreams of getting them downright properly soaked at launching. And throw the couch away! Enjoy.
@hammer9390
@hammer9390 Год назад
Absolutely awesome video. It's great that you were able to find a master rebuilder.
@ProjectBrupeg
@ProjectBrupeg Год назад
Us too!
@TheWibbo
@TheWibbo Год назад
WTG Carl! Looking forward to the install video.
@wazza33racer
@wazza33racer Год назад
Where a cummins of this generation was super superior was cost of fuel injectors and fuel pump.........a fraction the cost of anything else. Heating value of Canola oil and Diesel are very similar, but your fuel consumption results are 20% more for Canola....... Its a common issue that different fuels have different combustion burn speed, it might need timing advanced. To do that on a Cummins, the camshaft side cover plates can have their gasket shims changed. It was a really pleasant blast from the past to hear an NTC-855 pulling on that dyno )) My dad, has a 7 liter, 6 cylinder Volvo diesel in his F7 truck (RV) .......by replacing the original first generation Garret T-04B turbo with a Holset H351C..........boost went from 14psi to 20 psi and its vastly better to drive in terms of performance, and cruises more easily. Diesels love boost.
@uhl3706
@uhl3706 Год назад
That fuel economy is pretty good compared to a gasoline powered outboard. A 350hp mercury verado uses about 110l/h on best cruise and 235l/h on WOT. Of course the speed would be 'slightly' different, but those numbers really surprised me.
@member57
@member57 Год назад
That's the best use for disgusting canola oil. Nasty stuff for your health to cook with it.
@beerkegbob6952
@beerkegbob6952 Год назад
Engine Install next video?????
@MetalMullisha66
@MetalMullisha66 Год назад
855 cummins I'm sure you can get round 600kw out of them
@Sircraig7963
@Sircraig7963 Год назад
G'day Crew,,, Mega cool vid ,we've all been waiting for this one . After many years of watch keeping various diesel generators , the thing that stands out to me is the smooth sound of the engine throughout its power trials. Personally,, I'd be very happy with the quality of this rebuild.. Looking forward to seeing the engine aboard BRUPEG. Best Wishes . Respect ...!
@ProjectBrupeg
@ProjectBrupeg Год назад
Thanks Craig, yeah is was a real thing of beauty. Your spot on about it’s smoothness. Also small things like blow by. Spec allows for up to 18 inches but because Carl uses four ring pistons and not the newer three this engine has 1 inch of blow by so fumes etc in the engine room are also much easier to manage. It’s really a stunning engine
@brynyard
@brynyard Год назад
Another thing about diesel engines that might be a bit surprising to petrol heads (including meself) is how RPM, throttle and torque is related in petrol vs diesel. In a petrol (or any other combustion fuel) engine you always target a very specific stoichiometry, so the power you can get out of the engine is directly proportional to the volume of air you stuff into it, which again more or less means RPM (with the slight variation of the turbo), and you can't just increase the boost/compression since then the fuel will pre-detonate/ignite (=quick way to have an unscheduled disassembly of your engine), so to get more power => put in more air, and a given RPM results in a (semi) fixed power/torque. This is why they have (or used to have) throttle body that restricts the air flow. In a diesel, not only do you have a range of fuel/air mix that will work (though it still has an optimal one - which is basically what they're discussing with the clean smoke etc), but since you're detonating the fuel anyway by squirting it into the cylinder when you want it to detonate, you can just shovel as much air as as you want into the cylinders (withing reason of course), which means you can produce a range of output power at a single RPM. So to adjust power, you adjust the amount of fuel you burn. When you realize this, you suddenly get a better understanding for why (or one of the reasons why) diesels are more efficient, and much easier to work with in an industrial setting.
@matthewsellers82
@matthewsellers82 Год назад
20 odd years ago we used to run my wife's old manual pump Volkswagen on veggie oil (whichever was cheapest) straight from the supermarket, sometimes 100% veggie sometimes mixed with whatever diesel was in the tank, never had a problem other than the smell. So many people were doing this that at one point there was a 4 litre/person limit at the supermarket.
@alh2442
@alh2442 Год назад
It’s episodes like this I come to view. Great info. My brother was a diesel fitter on the Sunshine Coast who excelled at engine rebuilds. Sadly Stan is no longer with us and this episode bought back many happy memories of hanging around Stan in his workshop watching him and his vast knowledge of all things. Your guy reminded me very much of Stan. Thanks. 👍❤. PS called into Bundy back in January to check out the yard. Saw you at work. Didn’t need to bother you. Just happy to have been there.
@sumpjunkie
@sumpjunkie Год назад
There is no doubt karl knows these engines. The turbo is a apart of the cpl list of performance parts, a garret turbo on a cummins is not keeping with the cpl listing, I'm glad it was changed. As far as a new engine v the rebuild, the issue you have is that cpl 700 is non certified where as the new NTA is IMO 2. Your old engine was a CAT So you are repowering. If this vessel is going to be registered under AMSA then you are going to have to meet IMO rules. The rules state that other than an identical like for like replacement, you need to install an IMO tier 2 engine. Even pleasure boats now have to meet these rules. Hope you get around this as karl has done an excellent job. The testing with the different fuel was very interesting and quite well done.
@1Triton
@1Triton Год назад
Sweet to see it running! Now to see how it handles on brupeg!
@cmdrlars9161
@cmdrlars9161 Год назад
I love the high- tech shopping trolly exhaust system
@MG-tp2ix
@MG-tp2ix Год назад
Your introductions always make me laugh!😂
@MarkRose1337
@MarkRose1337 Год назад
That's a beautiful sounding engine!
@frederikdejongh92
@frederikdejongh92 Год назад
Only when you stop the engine you have to run on diesel ecause the vege oil cool down and get thik and you cant start again unless you keep it heated
@coastaltrikes5809
@coastaltrikes5809 Год назад
Did you carry out any exhaust gas analysis?
Год назад
I have a NT855-M300 (NT and not NTA, without the aftercooler) in my belgian canal barge, good news is that it sounds absolutely exactly the same as this one 🙂
@chrishenderson6500
@chrishenderson6500 Год назад
Fantastic info and i am so happy for you!
@mikeclark2500
@mikeclark2500 Год назад
Are veggie tank next to the hull how will you warm it when water outside is cold
@frederikdejongh92
@frederikdejongh92 Год назад
This i know you can a diesel engine run vege oil onley you have to haet it because its not thin enough
@simsjef
@simsjef Год назад
Enjoyed the engine testing on the Dino. What was interesting was when you and Duncan were at his house, I noticed the background brickwork which was so well done with a scratch joint. The bed and head joints were so uniform to the point of screaming that the person who laid those bricks was a master craftsman. It seems the Aussies have master craftsmen on the mechanical, electrical and masonry side. What a country and then you have wonderful people like Jess and Damon who are spot on nice and great and interesting and funny and so on and so on ( ok I know I used to many ands but hey, I’m a former bricklayer ). This is such an amazing channel - Jess and Damon have some of the best friends in the world ( well all over the world ).
@robinhodgkinson
@robinhodgkinson Год назад
Psst. They’re kiwis! 😉. (From an expat Aussie living in New Zealand : )
@simsjef
@simsjef Год назад
@@robinhodgkinson Thanks for your information and I should have known but the Dino testing revved up my mind to the point it made my fingers type the wrong facts. Kiwis they are and kiwis they will always be. It seems it’s the kiwis who make the world go around.
@robinhodgkinson
@robinhodgkinson Год назад
@@simsjef lol. Yeah, kiwis are a good bunch. Just like an Aussie, only better! (According to my kiwi mates). 😂
@dcallan812
@dcallan812 Год назад
Very nice sounding engine, its going to take you two and crew miles in the open ocean. 👍👍
@MaShcode
@MaShcode Год назад
Was very surprised at the fuel efficiency using canola. Was expecting as much as a 50% higher burn rate compared to diesel. Carl did an exceptional job on the rebuild.
@dylanwebb9584
@dylanwebb9584 Год назад
Wow!
@dingdong00002
@dingdong00002 Год назад
awsome episode. full props to carl, top customer care and pride in his work.
@jeffcottis2489
@jeffcottis2489 Год назад
A really good insight to the fuel options. Thanks.
@williammajor6768
@williammajor6768 Год назад
GOLD!
@gregkuyava9335
@gregkuyava9335 Год назад
Carl, I'd like to shake your hand. Way to treat people. Absolutely fabulous Sir.
@vitorsilveira3045
@vitorsilveira3045 Год назад
You can install a oil heater on the vg oil line as close as possible of the engine fuel injection pump. That will keep the oil temp at the optimum value all the time and will allow to a faster transition from diesel to vg. Keep up the good work...
@michaelmcclure8673
@michaelmcclure8673 Год назад
Damien you and Miss Jess are a funny set of Kiwis. You use the metric system for everything but that Cummings engine. It's a 14 liter engine. 😅😅😅😊 And the US Military has been running engines on all kinds of oil for years. Diesel , motor oil and many more. 😊 Kathryn and I gave to the gofundme using PayPal. Glad to see it running strong on the test/dyno stand. I have one of my Cummings liner converted into a small forge.😊
@ProjectBrupeg
@ProjectBrupeg Год назад
Thanks Michael. It is an odd thing I was never taught the imperial measurement system but picked it up when rebuilding engines for a living when I was 18. We hugely appreciate your generosity and it’s been an honour having so many people back this engine. Thank you from the bottom of our hearts.
@thomashewittv8
@thomashewittv8 Год назад
Sweet A + , Nice engine!! , Now you should look into getting a New Prop made? , (perhaps a CNC one ) then do a video on Old Prop vs New Prop ?
@ProjectBrupeg
@ProjectBrupeg Год назад
Nah new prop for us is close to 20k. Will more than likely get this prop re pitched to suit the new engine but we need some sea miles on it as is to know what way to re pitch
@Antipodean33
@Antipodean33 Год назад
I can't believe the effort some put into restoring boats, this project is so mammoth just thinking about it does my head in. You must be in the less than 1% of humanity, because the effort is so immense mere mortals like me cannot even begin to comprehend it. Nothing but awe and massive respect. btw that engine sounds lovely
@ProjectBrupeg
@ProjectBrupeg Год назад
Thanks very much
@jaker6037
@jaker6037 Год назад
Not sure if you guys are still planning on using a heated oil drum for keeping the veggie oil hot, but I was wondering if using a exhaust heat recovery system (similar to toyota prius) would be an efficient and effective way to heat up oil fast without using an electric element? Love the channel :)
@ProjectBrupeg
@ProjectBrupeg Год назад
Yes we will be using exhaust heat recovery with electric backup
@assassinlexx1993
@assassinlexx1993 Год назад
With this smooth running engine and the right engine mounts. The vibration will be minimal. Makes for a enjoyable experience on board. Being on a boat that shakes like dog in the rain is not fun. I take it you will use the engine coolant for heating the veggie oil optional temperature with a solenoid when under way. Ps. I take it the engine will be painted off white. Making it easy to spot oil leaks etc. Thats going to a great party when she gets her engine installed.
@ProjectBrupeg
@ProjectBrupeg Год назад
Yes engine is already painted and looking amazing. Freight up to the boat will be late this week. Hopefully see it next week
@assassinlexx1993
@assassinlexx1993 Год назад
@@ProjectBrupeg Wonderful Give you time to stock up on beer. Looking forward for the great video. May it be a safe day no troubles tucking in the trans and engine. 👍🏻🎉🍻🍻🍻🍻
@mm3rik
@mm3rik Год назад
have you considered a water to fuel intercooler close to the engine to heat the veg oil going into the engine (its free heat )
@md_al_mamun06
@md_al_mamun06 Год назад
very nice video
@alanglen5902
@alanglen5902 Год назад
What will veg oil combustion do to engine oil quality and oil change interval / fatigue..?? Diesel dilution is a factor over long term running, with appropriate additives, etc to deal with this. Have you got an oil sampling plan to see how the engine oil is holding up?? Similarly diesel lubricates the injection equipment. Is this function duplicated in veg oil???
@Kyle-R
@Kyle-R Год назад
isint vegie oil more expensive than diesel
@ProjectBrupeg
@ProjectBrupeg Год назад
In small quantities yes. In bulk no. It’s around one third the price per tonne
@terrysmall1421
@terrysmall1421 Год назад
a "keg run"....we used to play that game too.
@jared3785
@jared3785 Год назад
Doesnt canola oil cost alot more than diesel?
@ProjectBrupeg
@ProjectBrupeg Год назад
I’m small quantities yes. In large quantities it’s about 1/3 the price
@johnferguson-ju2mj
@johnferguson-ju2mj Год назад
Otto Diesel originally designed his engine to run on vegi oil so back to the future!
@Orchardman53
@Orchardman53 Год назад
How much per litre for Canola vs diesel? I'm reckoning US$1.35/litre bulk rapeseed (canola) with MGO about US$0.90/litre bunker pricing
@ProjectBrupeg
@ProjectBrupeg Год назад
Right now in Aussie diesel per ton is $2700 and canola is around 750-1000
@Orchardman53
@Orchardman53 Год назад
@@ProjectBrupeg Ouch! Can understand your interest in dual fuel.
@vaughanhill6933
@vaughanhill6933 Год назад
So how does the 3psi increase in boost effect your cruise and full power numbers?
@albertomoniz9051
@albertomoniz9051 Год назад
Damian that has a wonderful lope at Idle and in all it sounds great .I'm a diesel engine technician and have worked on Cummings over 35yrs as well other manufacturers. Cummings run low oil pressure but high volume I believe you need use a different oil supply pump operated by auxiliary device to maintain oil pressure and volume to internals, 1000 rpm is not enough rpm to reach full oil pressure and volume, especially when it is working under load. When oil get warm pressure drops also.I was just thinking this is not a piece of equipment on land and you guy's are very smart ,I don't know anything about building a boat or navigation but one can say I know a thing or two about engines. Cheers from 🇨🇦
@quarlow1215
@quarlow1215 Год назад
And that's the difference between a damn good mechanic and an engine manufacturer. So the word you are looking for when describing the exhaust is "opacity". When the check us for emissions ghey actually hold a chart up to our trucks pipe that has gray scales on it and depending on how much smoke or "opacity" tells them if we are fit for environmental emissions. I sure love the sound of a sweet diesel engine. That last clip just reminds me of a diesel locomotive. I love my Cats but a Cummins or a Detroit is music to my ears. Oh and u can't forget my soft spot for the old Gardner that hot us out to sea and back on the fish boats. I think I've spent more than half of my soon to be 60 years listening to a diesel between fish boats, semi's and farm tractors.
@MsJon52
@MsJon52 Год назад
I have been waiting for this moment, and it did not disappoint, that was excellent, I had a big smile on my face at the outtrow, being an armchair mechanic for decades, and with the highest qualifications known to man, (awarded by myself ) I was trying to find a way to encourage you to put a bigger or more efficient turbo without getting to much ridicule for saying so, when low-and-behold, it was done and it was a success, I am freaking brilliant, lol well done in getting to this stage, I'm made up for you both.
@jamesread11
@jamesread11 Год назад
Can you not start and warmup on regular diesel and then have a vegeoil heat exchanger from engine water to warm up vegeoil then switch once up to temp? Doesn’t the run in process also harden some of the components? I have seen programs where new cams were installed without proper run in heat cycle so they didn’t harden properly and distorted Seeing that keg has made me realise you don’t have a bar!
@ehrenfriedklemt4031
@ehrenfriedklemt4031 Год назад
@VideoShowMeHow
@VideoShowMeHow Год назад
Sounds awesome guys 👍👍 What sort of boost was it making?
@ProjectBrupeg
@ProjectBrupeg Год назад
20psi in the end
@clarenceclark8592
@clarenceclark8592 Год назад
So happy to see y’all get it to this point I know y’all are elated jus like new parents are be proud of your self your gettin there bite by bite that’s how ya eat away at a project you’ll be splashing that boat before you know it I believe in you guys all of you kudos to Duncan for his hard technical work he is a god send and it’s amazing how it’s not work when you enjoy what your workin on all the best from us okies on the plains in Oklahoma it’s warmin up here gettin a few spring rains but never enough if it was it’d be a flood love you guys be safe in your work n travels tell Jess good job on this one CC
@nickmaclachlan5178
@nickmaclachlan5178 Год назад
Might I suggest some electrical trace heating tape wrapped around the veggie oil supply and return lines? It won't heat up the oil to a higher temp, but it will reduce the system losses to a point where it's no longer a problem. This is a very common solution in commercial burners when they are using a heavy oil for combustion, the return line is always the most important, especially at max chat, because the return line won't be flowing as much. Heavier oils can easily start to solidify if not above 80 odd degrees........ we sometimes have to heat it to around 130 degrees and atomise it with steam to really get it going.......
@ProjectBrupeg
@ProjectBrupeg Год назад
When we get to the install and vege setup in the boat we will definitely be looking at this type of thing. Thanks Nick
@paraplegicbradleyschubert1328
When I was operating earth works machinery the company I was working for bought a new D6 swampy dozer from Japan I think it was from. It was filled with some kind of vegetable oil and the smell of the oil from the exhaust made me hungry all day whilst I burned the tank full up
@jackdbur
@jackdbur Год назад
In some places in environmentally protected areas you must use organic oils.
@denisohbrien
@denisohbrien Год назад
I ran my workshop heater on veg, had an urn set to about 120 deg, encountered the same issue as you , so had to a..dd a heater block just prior to the burner to heat it. youll have to do the same pre-pump
@wsmempson1
@wsmempson1 Год назад
Are you not going down the route of transesterfication in order to knock the glycerin out of the vegetable oil? Then you won't get nasty build ups in the engine or have to deal with a fuel that is temperature sensitive?
@ProjectBrupeg
@ProjectBrupeg Год назад
No. We want to modify the fuel system to handle raw oil. Currently we are using virgin oil so no polymers from oil combustion are present and hence the engine is able to run without damage (provided it’s always with load and hot oil). We are looking at using waste oil for transesterfication so we can eliminate the need for fossil fuel diesel but we don’t want the added cost of that process to apply to the total volume of fuel we need, as we do t have a land base so doing that process on a constantly moving boat is going to be a challenge we need to solve
@wsmempson1
@wsmempson1 Год назад
@@ProjectBrupeg That makes huge sense. Looks amazing so best of luck with this!!
@kirkyorg7654
@kirkyorg7654 Год назад
cool to see the engine in action, great that the veggie oil is going to work out awesome how clean it burns much rather sail around in a boat that smells like a chip shop than a diesel mechanics shop lol problem is the crew will be starving for munchies constantly lol used to work at a shop that was between a jam factory and a bread factory every day on the way to work could smell both always made me hungry lol stock lots of munchies is my advise lol
@davidelliott5843
@davidelliott5843 Год назад
Fossil diesel fuel has a calorific value of 45.6 approx it will vary a little around the world. Canola (aka rape seed) fuel has a calorific value of 45.6. Methyl Ester (biodiesel) is virtually the same. You can expect a 10% power reduction on heated vege oil. Biodiesel might be slightly better at cruising power because the molecule contains oxygen giving slightly more efficient combustion. At full power the energy value will take you to the -10% situation.
@markpowell5654
@markpowell5654 Год назад
Nice to see my donation helped😀👍👍
@mcgurkg1
@mcgurkg1 Год назад
Loved the video. That is, in my opinion, one of the best running Cummins engine I've heard in a long time. These new gen Cummins sound like a bag of hammers, I think that all the emissions system gear has ruined them. I guess that's why they're trying hydrogen fuel in the next few years
@royreynolds108
@royreynolds108 Год назад
Thank the government.
@ProjectBrupeg
@ProjectBrupeg Год назад
It takes around 63 modern truck engine running to generate the same exhaust emissions as a 1980’s truck. They also produce more horsepower and use less fuel than an old engine like ours. Emissions gear might make them harder to work on but it’s a positive thing in terms of the atmosphere we are leaving for the next generation
@cartertanya1258
@cartertanya1258 Год назад
Doing great , why not use engine to heat fuel on the boat . Use electric to prevent heat then engine once up to temp . Use electric for any short fall in temp on thermostat
@dugrodger142
@dugrodger142 Год назад
Some further notes on "Rebuilt vs New" engine... 🤓 A rebuilt engine has to be dissembled, cleaned, carefully inspected and milled/machined to "spec", measured for clearances and parts. Then finally assembled. Whew.. Further a used block/heads or whatever, have been "heat cycled" many, many times. Relaxed and stable. "Seasoned". Long before our current high-tech metals and factory racing engines the "Pro's" went out to the scrap yards for such "seasoned" engines. All of them, even the likes of NASCAR. (those that really knew what they were doing that is) So a larger portion of labor, skill and hard work. Throw in a splash of pride and TLC from a pro builder and yer solidly off to the races, er, long relaxed cruises. 😉 Have fun and best wishes from The Great White North..
@tacticalrabbit308
@tacticalrabbit308 Год назад
If you ran a hot antifreeze line through your fuel tanks for the veggie oil that should help warm up the oil. And canola oil is over $9 per gallon here in the USA and diesel fuel is $5 per gallon for ultra low sulfer fuels
@bboomer7th
@bboomer7th Год назад
I paused the video to tell you that this is fascinating.
@Lamboghini76
@Lamboghini76 Год назад
That's because diesel was meant to be run on vegetable oil
@Davidcallard
@Davidcallard Год назад
I remember back to my first sight of the Brupeg engine room and being quite impressed by the appearance of the freshly painted Cummins. That was before I saw the new engine in the all - together! Quite an erotic spectacle eh what chaps?!🙃 In short, I think that beautiful lump of raw materials is just fantastic the way it is! I would like for us to have some kind of poll of the rank and file about the pros vs cons of painting the donk! Of course there's always the option of a spot of chrome plating here and there! 🤗
@billwallace1520
@billwallace1520 Год назад
Just wondering what effect heating the diesel would have on cleanliness of the burn I am in awe of what you are achieving All credit to you all
@bootsnall8996
@bootsnall8996 Год назад
The advantage of rebuilding with a reputable rebuilder is it is all hand built, verses a production line engine. Never get a remanufactured engine from an OE supplier as they are outscored to a contractor for rebuilding at the lowest price. As for new I personally had a brand new engine that developed a miss at 32.4 hours, turned out to be a faulty valve spring on No 2 cyl burnt the valve and seat, result new head. Manufacturer Warranted it but still cost 3 weeks out of service. I agree with Damien rebuilt by a reputable engine rebuilder is the way to go.
@bryandalton959
@bryandalton959 Год назад
If you modify waste vegetable oil (ex fryer in a resturant) with a solvent (orange oil or keronsene) you get a lower viscosity. Also a heat exchanger made from copper piping using the water jacket outflow heats the fuel on the way in. Less carbon but higher NOx, water cooled exhaust should stop that.
@hoost3056
@hoost3056 Год назад
I thought I recognized that engine. Had one in a Kenworth cabover. Great engine. Those 855 based engines don't die unless you kill them
@brucevogel2693
@brucevogel2693 Год назад
Enjoyed the Dyno Testing and nice to see you included this step with the Veggie Oil, before "setting sail" for distant ports.
@royreynolds108
@royreynolds108 Год назад
My take on rebuilt, engines, water pumps, etc.; if the rebuild is done correctly with good parts to spec, then it is better; WHY?, the casting has been proven by use and is a "known" instead of not knowing if there is something wrong with it that was not discovered by use. I hope that makes sense. That is my philosophy anyway.
@myzipie
@myzipie Год назад
What is the price on a liter of oil compared to a liter of diesel? And can you get oil anywhere in the world you will be sailing to? I cant wait to see you guys in the water!
@ProjectBrupeg
@ProjectBrupeg Год назад
In bulk oil is around one third the price of diesel. It’s shipped internationally in IBC’s so anywhere that can import shipping containers is a potential refuelling port
@hamishbarr2796
@hamishbarr2796 Год назад
Great to see the engine running super clean on veggie oil, do you think it will run as clean on filtered waste veggie oil or will you stick to bulk "clean" veggie oil keep up the great work
@ProjectBrupeg
@ProjectBrupeg Год назад
Sticking to bulk new for now. If we can get waste to meet the fuel standards we need then we would love to use it instead but more than likely we will use waste to make biodiesel
@politicalGRAFFITI
@politicalGRAFFITI Год назад
Sounded sweet. And damn... 1000 ft lbs torques, awesome.
@GillsandGreens2024
@GillsandGreens2024 Год назад
The diesel engine was designed to run on palm oil in the 1800's by a guy called Von Diesel and will run on any veggie oil, in the UK all diesel engines have had to be able to run on veggie oils or bio diesel since 1997, In the Philippines i run my diesels on old filtered cooking oil.
@rudolfpeterudo3100
@rudolfpeterudo3100 Год назад
The fly in the ointment that no one has mentioned is the quality of the actual oil itself. is the oil going to be purchased unused or does it have contaminants in it because it has been pre used and hence will need extensive filtration. If you do solve that problem then the oil will be cheaper brcause then you can buy waste or pre-used oil.
@thatdave86
@thatdave86 Год назад
Could the oil be refined even further to create better consumption figures and boost HP ? Wondering how much the difference with less range and less HP will stack up in your calculations ? Also is the canola oil recycled ? you obviously wish to use what's available wherever you are in the world ,and will you have difficulty with the oil being too cool when down in ate Antarctic waters . Looking forward to the engine being installed and the boat in the water
@ProjectBrupeg
@ProjectBrupeg Год назад
Hi Dave, a few thoughts on this. Currently we are using virgin Canola oil, oil thats processed without heat and therefore you dont get any polymers in the oil that cause engine coking and damage. Waste cooking oil goes through a lot of heating cycles as a cooking oil and therefore develops polymers in the oil which can bind to internals on the engine and cause a number of issues like sticking rings, injector pump and injector damage etc. You can refine the waste oil into biodiesel which essentailly removes these polymers and gives you a similar performance to regular diesel. but it comes at a cost as you needs to process the fuel which involves significant quatities of methonol and them removing glycyrin from the oil. plus most governments consider it fuel at this point and want to apply a fuel tax (44c/L in aussie) so the economics dont stack up just yet in Australia to do this. Currently diesel is $2700AUD per ton, and Canola oil is around $750-1000 so its still well worth the 16% consumption hit given the raw cost is 37% of the cost of diesel.
@thatdave86
@thatdave86 Год назад
@@ProjectBrupeg thank you for the information, nothing' is easy is it and the availability of diesel over virgin oil could be a deciding factor in toy being able to run when and wherever ? tons of canola oil,is that available at ports ? Can you add extra emissions equipment (exhaust scuppers )if you found that diesel fuel is the best and practical way to go ? Ultimately somehow having regenerative power generation on board using the new wind generation methods ,the vertical types could see you going electric? But I suspect that your aim of being on the water and moving will dictate whether you go complex or basic,in other words ,chuck diesel in her and go . Best wishes for everything 😃
@bobuncle8704
@bobuncle8704 Год назад
I’ve been so looking forward to this episode. Great numbers. How big are your diesel and veggie oil tanks? With these numbers, what is the approximate range of Brupeg?
@ProjectBrupeg
@ProjectBrupeg Год назад
Hi Ian, currently we have six tanks with 16,000L in total. We converted two (2 x 3500L) to fresh water so currently we have around 9000L of fuel and 7000 of water. That gives us 2440nm at a high cruise speed (around 9knots), however on long trips we will back right off to around 6-7 knots and add a water maker and convert the water tanks back to fuel. This will allow us around 5000nm range
@jeffnevius
@jeffnevius Год назад
Your engine oil will stay cleaner running on veggie oil.
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