Brushed vs Brushless motors in Off Road R/C Trucks 

Thanks Scott! Crawling has been a long time obsession that turned into a career somehow. A big part of the obsession has always been electronics that perform with some WOW factor. If a customer doesn't find themselves happy with our product, then something is amiss!

Awesome, glad you liked it!

I agree, 3rd time i watched , im new crawling like the low speed control , and scale so think going stay with brushed as thats what the truck is for i bought gen8 looking at trx or capra too .🤯👍👍👍👍

@@HolmesHobbies how come we can gear up without heat issues with lower kvs , in heavier rcs ,i thought we were able bc motor has more torque . Is what you were saying only true with the smaller size cans and not with ones capable of 6s .sorry i forgot standard sizes of brushless cans .

And delivered in a rich baritone, redolent of golden molasses, nonetheless. Well done, sir.

The 1080 is a good budget choice. I wish we could have the BRXL at that price, but 100% USA made vs 100% china made, there is no competing.

@@HolmesHobbies I totally understand, me on the other hand would love to run only Holmes Hobbies or Castle Creations but a setup like that here in Sweden means I have to decide between that or something I the price range of the Sandero rtr, taxes on toys here are insane. I had a similar discussion with one of the hobby shop owners when he gave me a hard time for running Hobbyking batteries over what he sells but I said that if I weren't running these batteries I wouldn't be there buying the spare parts I needed for that car because I wouldn't be able to afford to be in the hobby. I've had so many good talks with Hemistorm about Castle electronics that I'm ashamed for not buying because the taxes and I feel bad for taking up his time, I'd love to support guys like them and you who actually are in this because you have a passion for the hobby, not because you see a way to earn more money. That's what I love adout Element RC, they seem to have built their cars out of love for the hobby and to produce what they think is best, by the way, your examination of the shocks of the Sendero 😄😄👍 Anyhow, I love to see people being passionate about what they do, I know it's a struggle when the market is flooded with cheap stuff, I where a detailer for many years trying my hardest to get people to understand the difference between cheap and proper car care. To be honest I've seen you as a bit of a snob after reading some things you've written but seeing these videos have changed my views and I now see someone who's very passionate about what he's doing and that's something I appreciate very much, I hope I'll be able to support you by buying your stuff in the future but until then I'll be watching your videos, hitting like and commenting as best I can.

I'd advise just avoiding water at all costs

Glad we can help!

Thank you sir!

@@HolmesHobbies Sir Im interested if possible to purchase from you some blank Armatures with commentators only . If possible its a big help. Or if not perhaps you know of a place I can. Im an American in Los Angeles.. Thanx. Please advise. Regards DH.

Thank you sir! We are working on some more direct product vids next.

Low Kv has advantages of being easier to control, but it isn't a blanket fix to improve crawling feel. That is more of motor design. Puller Pro 540 in 2200kv and mamba X would be great for a little faster than stock but a lot more power and control. Alternatively, choose the Revolver 540 in 1800kv for about the same speed as stock but gobs and gobs of torque. It will be just slightly less control on startup because of being sensorless, but less to worry about with no sensor wire to get contaminated.

lol! Never looked close enough. It just might...

thinking about doing more asmr stuff: RC to sleep to

Glad you liked it :D I have a few videos on motors, but this one is most up to date.

Had me fooled for a sec... Thanks for the feedback!

The TrailMaster Pro is actually well suited for drifting because of the large rotor diameter.

I will most certainly check it out, thanks for getting back to me so fast!!

Thanks for the watch. Glad you like it!

Thanks!

Buy it Break it Fix it I thinnk u should get a Holmes hobby set up and put it your TRX4. I think u would be amazed at the difference. Do a full install video and test. Give your honest appion on it.

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Any electrics, I'm into it!

Look for my video on timing and matching motors. You just need to adjust the timing the other direction. Opposite endbell rotation as referenced to the rotation of the motor shaft.

Thanks for watching

budget and torque monster, Revolver 1400 or 1800 and sidewinder 4. half budget, mamba X and Trailmaster Pro 1700 or 2200. No budget baller, mamba X and Puller Pro 540 2200kv.

@@HolmesHobbies Thank you! I'll put together an order on your site after the Christmas Holiday. (when I'm assembling the truck).

At the time of this video the tech had not progressed there yet. In 2023, Brushless does in fact have better low speed control when the controller allows!

Our brushed 550 is indeed better than the stock motor. If you want more speed and power for your rig, a 2700kv Puller Pro 540 and BLE or Mamba X controller is a fantastic combo for the TRX4

I really appreciate your videos and the reply, I will get what you have suggested! Another question is, can I continue to run NiMh with that setup you listed above? Thanks again and I can't wait to buy from your company!

If you are already maxed on voltage and motor size, increase esc size and use a faster KV to produce more torque. If motor rpm is already pegged, it's going to be motor quality and ability to handle taller gearing for higher amperage.

Sorry to bother you but you seem to know your stuff. My vxl has a couple loose strands of wire inside. Is there anything I can do? Or is it fried?

Low speed control has changed. We uploaded a recent video on the same topic

We have the Revolver. Much better sensorless control than the tenshock. We would rather spend time on a sensored 6 pole, as it is not so difficult to engineer.

Next video is actually focusing on startup and slots/poles, so cheers! Cobalt puller is an older motor that works very well. Run it on 2s or 3s and have fun! timing is best set with an amp draw to 10% over minimum.

HolmesHobbies Awesome !! 😎😎 Can't wait 😀😀. Thankyou so much on the motor feedback !!👍👍. I'll be throwing it in a rig shortly and having some fun with it 😀😀

The weight isn't really a big deal because of gearing, at least until we start getting past 15lbs

It does help in some ways, especially sensorless commutation. but it also causes a reduction in max rpm and increases steel losses, so it typically trades off a lower rpm range and also lower power density.

In a racing situation, torque at higher RPMs is very important. With electric motors this is simply tied to the stall torque and how close to maximum RPM the motor is. Startup torque and feel make or break the usefulness of a crawler motor.