About Jennie and Jisoo: I believe in the way I placed them. They're still in the bottom half of the ranking and I don't find this ranking particularly shocking really. Blackpink has the reputation of being some sort of rock bottom in terms of vocals in kpop, which after making myself familiar with more groups, I simply don't agree with. I got similar comments when I placed Rose 6th on the main vocal ranking. Jennie is inconsistent, but her good moments are almost too good for a vocalist of her calibre. And Jisoo; if you listen to the clips included in this video here, I really think she deserves her 6th spot. Jisoo sounded rough on The Show, which I acknowledge in the video but I don't think she should be lower because of that.
Recently, I‘ve noticed a lot of sinister energy building whenever Jisoo‘s vocals were being discussed on yt. People were showing a really ugly side of themselves and ktubers have never tried to control the spiralling hate train in their comment sections. A lot of people are trying really hard to drive her out of blackpink, ruin her reputation as a vocalist and discredit her accomplishments. And a lot of these people are neither vocal coaches nor practicing vocalists, with little to no expertise. A lot of big words are being thrown around with rather vague explanations. And at this point, I‘m kinda getting mad??? Jisoo has done nothing to you, but a lot of people are pulling out their inner Sasuke on some sort of avenger trip. Stop. Pick up a hobby. Might I suggest knitting. It‘s calming for the nerves. Also, quick question: Who is a better vocalist Rosé or Nayeon? I would rather think Rosé, but I could be wrong.
It makes sense how good Seulgi is when you learn that she's trained as a main vocalist until a wild Wendy came :D One of the best vocal duos in kpop right now tbh
I feel like you always use the same clips of TWICE, the girls are on tour, there are a lot of new videos from nayeon, jeongyon and jihyo singing live... :/ and good quality ones even from fans
i think yeji is still better than jennie and jisoo edit: jennie and jisoo honestly shouldnt be above any of the girls beneath them, this is NOT hate i was a jennie ult bias and still love blackpink very much. but its undeniable that the girls really need some work on their vocals! not to say their voices arent beautiful because they are! but technically speaking i dont think they should be as high
jeong literally doesn’t get a chance to show off her talents at all! i’m a huge twice fan but i don’t really pay attention to too much stuff outside of title tracks, but when i heard doughnut & heard her like 5 second “every single day” line, i was blown away!!
The fact that Seulgi's main skill is her dancing (entered SM with her vocals but she is a main dancer so probably dance is her main skill now) but has a good technique for a lead vocalist just shows how talented she is. Her solo is a must. Surprisingly, Yoohyeon, Winter and Jeongyeon are some of my fave lead vocalist among the active ggs and if Hwasa is here, she would top this list. Winter just needs more live singing but Coachella is a start and she sings in variety show, she is a rookie so she has yet to show us her skill. JYP is wasting so much of Jeongyeon's talent when she clearly can slay Twice's main vocal lines. Her tone is good too. Yoohyeon is surprisingly could be better than Siyeon in technique and a very versatile singer. They just need more recognition.
Nayeon being given more lower notes can help refine her lower register even more. Jeongyeon having more belting lines can help her show off more of her vocal prowess... I sure hope JYPE does smth about that
i agree to this sm, its so obvious that jeongyeon is more comfortable belting so why can't they just give her that and nayeon's low register has so much potential and can be improve in a short period of time, giving her low notes would give her throat a break.
Seulgi is def no.1 here. Love her tone and when she gets to show off what she can do. Winter is a close second, really proud of all the ladies here. They’re all talented and have show improvement through the years.
@@revaleries1230 That's hypocrisy right there. They included solar and wheein as a main vocalist (which is also not official but analysed according to the creator and ofcourse by fans) in their list but didn't even bother to mention hwasa as they don't have an official positions? Like I don't get this, it can analysed as well as it's kinda clear who represents what positions while they sing/perform so I don't think that makes any sense.
the main and lead vocal positions aren’t always about supported vocals or even vocal ability, it’s about how the company wants the group to sound and who can pull off specific lines the best, which is why jiu for example is a lead vocalist, her voice is perfect for the verses and bridges. same as in stayc, where sieun is the main vocal even though yoon could also be main vocal, sieun’s voice just fits stayc’s brand more
@@velvetcatcher have you even hear sua sing independently, she has an amazing voice, and more range than jiu even though jiu’s voice is beautiful, sua has more potential
@@kphoria1009 as a SuA bias. SuA has bigger range but sometimes she sounds too shouty or not connected. When it comes to belting, surprisingly JiU is better. Her belting is clean and consistent compared to SuA. For me, SuA speciality in her vocal is her lower register. She really good at that
The thing with Jeongyeon is that she hasn't received enough opportunities to show her voice, she is a lead vocal treated like a sub vocalist And about Seulgi, one thing that I think makes her a great lead vocal is that she really carries along with Wendy the vocal performances of Red Velvet, when they sing together is clear when Seulgi is singing and when she is not, her voice is always present, plus she has great stamina (main dancer and lead vocal things)
Tbh all sm groups have solid vocal lines where even subvocals could pick up main vocal role in another group ( like I mean I was shocked when Taemin was a sub vocal as an A tier singer)
@@mohamadfirdausbinmat2577 where did they say this?? Why are you bringing up SNSD, this tier is for currently active popular girl groups. SNSD is on hiatus. We know that they're great.
Winter definitely shined at Coachella, she had the best vocals of the night from the group imo, I truly can't wait to hear more of her she's so promising
Seulgi's position here is undebatable, truly one of the best vocalists in the entirety of kpop, period Also Yoohyeon being so high up here made me proud! :)
@@allykelly she is you moreon. Now don't undermine a less popular group. I am a blink and I agree. Don't act pissH off without listening to their songs
It's not even surprising that Seulgi is 1. She always delivered amazing vocal performance alongside Wendy. Even fans praise her for her vocals and called often main vocal material. Red velvet truly has the best vocal line up
Yes finally people appreciating Yoohyeon!! She’s really improved since BOCA moving forward (she always had untapped potential!!). You can tell she really trained hard to get where she is now. Her vocal development we stand. Also agree about Jeongyeon. I would argue her voice did sound better in early/pre twice. Her voice clearly suits more mature styles than Twice’s music. Hoping she can get lines in their new concept. Plus we all know how crappy JYPE’s vocal coaches are… and how ridiculously high their sounds are (feel like they hide her voice)
huh? people always appreciated Yooheyon what are you talking about? only from BOCA era??? She literally put out many iconic specials and covers waaay before BOCA era
I mean, JYP really sucks ass in terms of training their artists vocally it's not even funny Like, their vocalists are mostly declining vocally over time, so that tells us a lot
@@veen-a2092 yes but I see people and reactors more amazing at her. In BOCA and pre debut people always complimented Siyeon or Jiu or Sua’s voice. Even siyeon’s high notes in the background, not knowing that’s it’s Yoohyeon. She’s appreciated by her fandom ofc once you dive deep into Dreamcatcher. But oftentimes she can be overlooked.
@@lunarialoonatic Ummm No a lot of people know her from Secret love song cover which was Deja Vu era if I'm not mistaken. Siyeon add libs will sound more striking like a glass cutting through and she will add a bit of vocal fry to create a texture she does these cause she used to sing for a garage rock band and Yooheyon high notes will sound more full more "western classical" she will not add much texture to her vocal it is very different which even if someone is not an inside fan or not will easily notice but give me an example on this moment where people mistook Siyeon vocal for Yooheyon tho?
Seulgi is suchhh a QUEEN 🔥🔥 Main dancer who sings like the main vocalist, and can become a main vocalist in ANY other group!!! She HAD to rank #1 in this list. She is also my 2nd bias in RV (first being Wendy) and my ult bias wrecker in whole k pop!! Like come on, she is DEFINITELY one of the best dancers AND vocalists in the industry. K pop idols like her are extremely rare. She is someone whom I can call the 'real ace of k pop'. She shines the most on stage. Truly a gem!!
Dont forget SM also has Ten from NCT. Main dancer and Main vocal in WayV. SM really is high tier in Kpop industry. I love Seulgi since Happiness era. 💛
I am a Winter bias but I do agree Yoohyeon ranks higher because she has more maturity in her voice and got tons of technique. Her voice fits many genre and her English diction is good, helping us to appreciate English songs she sang. But for Winter, I do believe that time will even ripen her techniques. She has very amazing voice. She's both soft and strong, I wonder what her voice could do with genres far from her usual one. Then she's full of surprises. We might be surprise to see more of her vocals soon. She's like that despite being new to the industry. That was their first time facing a big crowd but she sang like pro. Kudos!
Surprised at how high Jennie and Jisoo are in the ranking, I consistently hear a lot of serious problems with their singing. Jennie looses a lot of her technique when belting, she resorts to shouting and Jisoo definitely has a visible problem with tension and nasal tendencies. Overall, great video I love your analyses!
Honestly, the standards in Kpop aren't that high, for lead vocalists they are more than okay, most lead vocalist out there don't even know how to support a note.
Seulgi dropping those covers today is more than enough proof as to Why she should be#1. Her range, her tone, her emotion when she sings is Just chefs kiss!!! That's my baby my favorite vocalist 😍😍😍💛
omg I agree so MUCH with the Jeongyeon's issue with her lines. We barely see her showcasing her vocals cuz she usually got 10 secs of lines and that's it. On the other hand, I think she used a different technique in predebut and early Twice years. After Likey era she tends to use a more nasally voice which in my opinion it's not better. I think this technique is more difficult to her to develop and sometimes she sings with her original technique lines that originally are with her nasal voice. We almost never see her singing lines that require a head voice or falsettos because that lines usually are given to Mina which always has more lines than her. I really hope that she could showcase more her vocals and DEFINITELY have more lines in the future.
I honestly see Jeongyeon use the nasal sound more in the cuter songs - aka earlier eras tbh (that What is love verse in studio and other Japanese songs), but not that much when twice transition to a more mature sound. And like you said, she usually did not keep that nasal sound when singing live even with those cute lines. When she went higher (from C5/C#5), she can tend to sound harsher in some parts given her level, but it's more because of tightness rather than just nasality imo. When she is in good condition though, her 4th octave notes are probably the most nasal-free in the vocal line, with good projection too, I realized this after hearing them sing Alcohol free live (especially that line after Jihyo). She has been given lines using upper register (not too high though) a bit more recently, I did hear it live during Rewind and Just be yourself in the Tokyo dome stages (the backtrack is quite loud though). I understand why some might prefer other members' falsetto given their vocal timbre and comfort, but it's a bit sad too since Jeongyeon severely lacked exposure in this register, and I personally think her falsetto was decent, and I want to hear it a bit more (I actually liked those phrases in My eye candy and Pieces of love). What she struggles more with imo is about transition across registers of her range, among other things. I also hope to see her showcase vocals more (when she gets better and ready) but maybe not in twice songs lol, given how many years have passed and nothing really changes, it's better with probably some small solo singing projects or covers.
It's unacceptable that she gets as much time as some sub-vocalists in the group. I think it really hinders her vocal ability, which is a shame! Those belts in the Applause performance are SO GOOD and yet I've never heard her sing like this after that JYP sucks and that's the bottom line lol
@@aintnootherfan Ikr, the excuse for her lines in early Twice years was "her mature and sassy voice doesn't fit cute songs", but now she is literally getting less and less lines, she used to be 4th in lines in the overall album with a difference with the others vocalist, nowadays she is 5th with almost the same quantity of lines that the other members lower than her. The worst was in Taste of Love Album when she ranked 7th in lines 💀 and they were songs that fit her voice so much. Ugh... that' just sad
@@bluecherrycosy13 I get what you're saying, I think she used more a chest voice in Twice songs but she has to sing like in a cuter way so it sounded more nasally. But Imo she singed better with the technique she used and belted in songs like Like a Fool, Headphones On, Three Times a Day, Going Crazy, Knock Knock than now in songs like Cactus, HO!, Say Something, Real You, Up No More, Bring It Back, Shot Clock, Stuck, etc. Even in her choruses in LOA and Cheer Up are different (and better to me) than in ICSM and The Feels. I think now she sings more stylistic? (In songs like Moonlight and 132 is more noticiable) More than belting, idk I am not an expert in vocals so if you can explain this to me I will be more than happy 😁
Twice's logic doesn't work for me, cause Jeongyeon is clearly the best belter of the group and the higher parts are almost always given to Jihyo and Nayeon.
@@leonardomapurunga753 You should check out some b sides that Twice wrote, they're having better line distributions there since they're choosing lines. In almost all songs that Jihyo's wrote, she gave a lot of lines to Jeongyeon.
Well the thing people always forget about Seulgi is that even know she's an Ace in dancing but this was only an acquired skill. She always focused more as a vocalist than a dancer but in the past when she couldn't sing for a short time period , she switched to dancing fearing she won't be able to debut as an idol. But later on her voice came back as well making her a dual edge sword with her vocal and dancing skills
Actually Yoohyeon could easily be the main vocalist in any other groups but in DC Siyeon’s position is well deserved. DC is actually a group full of vocalists😍
A lot of people have been saying that NingNing as the main vocalist of the group is obviously a better vocalist than Winter but up until this point, all that i'm seeing is that Winter's live vocals are the one that usually amaze me. The best vocals by NingNing are the ones from the studio tracks but i guess i must be the only one feeling that way.
@@mohamadfirdausbinmat2577 winter is indeed better than ningning mainly bc of her stamina, which is her advantage being a trained dancer than ningning. but overall, ningning has better technique and has wider range which are key qualifications for being a main vocalist. she has done both the lowest and highest note in aespa so far. it's not a surprise for a lead vocalist like winter to be more stable in live performances when this is proven by seulgi, nayeon, jeongyeon, yeji, chaeryeong and many others whom are only lead vocalists of their group.
Seulgi has a vocal quality that is just rare to find, honestly at this point the only reason she's a main dancer is to avoid duplication of roles, yoohyeon's control over the tools she has is incredible and it 100% makes sense to me that she's so high on the list, I fully agree with calling her an intelligent vocalist
yeah, vocal coach nowdays does favor a stylistic choice i remember when my bestfriend go a vocal academy here in my place and after like almost a year her singing style change so much, before she joinned the academy she can support her voice up to Bb4 eventho she lacks consistentsy and now i noticed how her vowels now more shape like a stylistic singer and she lost all of her openness, she become very unconsistent with her suported note and sometimes even strainning at F#4-G#4 when she singing. she now more like Minnie if we compared her technique to kpop idol 😭💀
I agree with this list! Seulgi literally can be main vocalist of any group except for Red Velvet. I hope you can also make one for the other vocalist or sub vocalist coz i think that their are lot of artist that has great voice if only they have a better position
Since you ranked Siyeon (of Dreamcatcher) #8 in the main vocal video, and Yoohyeon #2 in this one, do you think Yoohyeon is a better vocalist/should be considered the main vocalist in Dreamcatcher?
I don't think so. Siyeon fits the most of their concept style which is rock/metal. But when it comes to techniques, Yoohyeon performs better. I think if they are another group with girl crush or bubble gum concept(?) She will take the lead over Siyeon
in terms of technique, yoohyeon has a better vocal technique than siyeon. but if you look at it overall, siyeon is still slightly above yoohyeon, in terms of vocal range, power vocals. and no doubt they're one of the best duos that girl groups have in kpop right now.
I think with time Yoohyeon could outrank siyeon if our main doesn’t keep improving herself. The student is definitely catching up to the teacher quickly. But right now siyeon still fits the sound of Dreamcatcher as the main a bit more the Yoohyeon. Though funny thing. Yoohyeon is the main vocalist in yaja time and Siyeon is the rapper 🤣🤣🤣 so there we go. Yoohyeon being the main. But yeah each girl brings a special something to the sound of Dreamcatcher.
I think Yoohyeon could vibe main vocal material but Siyeon really suits the rock robe of Dreamcatcher more and is actually a good main vocalist. It’s just I do think the company tends to overuse her voice too much. She knows her limits but often pushes herself.
Yoohyeon seriously needs more recognition, she has a good technique and an amazing voice. I was surprised to find that she was only a lead vocal in the group. In case if y'all have fallen in love with her voice, you should check out her latest solo 'For'. It's really beautiful. Also check out her cover of 'Secret Love Song'. She's seriously a main vocal material.
Since Seulgi was supposed to be main vocal before Wendy got escorted, no surprise. I'm really impressed about #2, I don't know Dreamcatcher nor have the interest to look for their stuff, but maybe when she releases solo stuff imma keep an eye on her
Yoohyeon covers Secret Love Song of Little Mix, 2005 of Anna Marie(idk if that's the spell) and she even wrote and produced her solo track in their new album ("For" is her solo track)
Yoohyeon needs more recognition. Every cover that she sang turns out very beautiful. She should sing drama ost, especially ballad ones, her vocals are no joke.
You’re right Sihyun has support although shallow, Jennie & Jisoo don’t at all. Idk if he’s biased or has a different criteria 🤷🏻♀️ he doesn’t even clearly analyze their technique just saying random vague stuff that anyone can say about vocals lol
He's biased lmao, "Winter was lower before coachella" girl is the same it's not like she debuted 10 years ago. Also Jennie is fairly more grounded and relaxed than Jisoo around the A3- G4 jisoo is more tensed and nasal. Sihyeon is stronger than both of them
if this is based technically it will be winter>seulgi>jeongyeon>nayeon>shiyeon>Jennie>yeji>Jisoo didn't include number 2 on this list because I'm not familiar
@@sputchocho all of his videos are biased though. He was bashing aespa and said they sound similar but then praised BP when aespa are obviously stronger than BP
The same thing happened to me, I stayed WTF!! But it was obvious that he would do something like that to make blink and stans feel at peace. I mean EVERY dreamcatcher has a better vocal technique than all Bp and sihyeon It's obvious that it's better than jisoo and jennie, but there you have it, that's why you don't have to rely too much on youtube rankings and you have to analyze who is really there being objective.
*SEULGI IS THE QUEEN!!! But, Dude literally chose that "NAYEON CRACKED FANCAM IN I CAN'T STOP ME" and chose Violence. You could have atleast utilized her videos like the one when she sang Fancy backstage or when she succesfully belted F5s in Heart Shaker. Yes, she's high on the list but you made it seem like she doesn't deserve the spot or her lines. You could have done Her better.*
Yes it’s so weird that he chose the worse moment of Nayeon different than others vocalist in this list. There are so many good ones especially this year. But choosing the video that haters normally attack nayeon was weird :/
I didn't know the history of those clips lol I guess she struggles here a bit, she sounds decent and wasn't afraid to belt this high during encore which I appreciate
Jisoo definitely deserves her position. Those below her have extremely noticeable pitch issues. They also often go off tune even in their comfortable rabge. Jisoo have difficulty on hight notes but her lows and mids definitely are on point.
Ikr? I'm sick and tired of people hating her and saying that she doesn't deserves her position. High notes are not everything. Ok there are many amazing vocalists out there who are the best of all time but Jisoo definitely deserves her position in Blackpink.
I'm sorry to say that jisoo can be heard out of tune even in his middle notes, several times since her debut she has done it, in her debut it was much more, and I must admit that her stability has improved a lot, but she is out of tune and quite a bit, only that many of the bp stages are either pre-recorded, with autotune or lyp sync, in the debut they sang a little more live, but not that much, either, the thing is that most fans don't know how to differentiate when it's live and when not, because audio technology has grown so much over the years that they have managed to make the difference almost imperceptible, in addition many of the fans are extremely exaggerated with the abilities of their idol. But my point is that if you hear her go out of tune when she is really live, just as I said in 2020 her improvement was very noticeable and that makes me happy.
Winter got the vocals tbh she could be main in any other group and Aespa members all are so good in the vocals departments they could be main ,lead, sub In any other group ✨🤌🏻
I don't know about techniques and technicalities but Winter is one of my favorite vocalists in kpop. Her voice is just my type, I like her soft tone, chewy pronunciation, and her high pitch piercing voice. Not everyone likes it though, but I personally do like it.
Vocal tone/colour is something that people can have opinion on to love or not. If someone hates it doesn't matter. If about vocal technicalities & techniques which are proven facts with details & analysis, it can be judge & compare. Because it's a strength/skill that need to develope & learn. Not something that was natural born given like a vocal tone/colour.
i knew my girl yooyheon would be high! also i really admire jennie for singing lots of the main vocal lines and being stable, and i really love winter’s ambition and power!!
I'm curious to know where Mia (Everglow) would have ranked in the other video. Also, would have liked to see yuqi here, I don't know what the official positions are in g-idle or if they have any, but based on their lines, Yuqi seems to be doing the job of a lead vocalist, so I wonder where she would have ranked here.
@@aintnootherfan Yuqi is a lead vocalist and Minnie is main vocalist along to Miyeon I suppose that's because Minnie voice is more suitable than Yuqi's One pour the position of Main
@@aintnootherfan it's confusing because before that Soojin left her position was always Lead vocalist It's more confusing with knowing the fact that she is the 2nd Vocalist of G-idle technique wise
I’m actually surprised at how high ranked Jisoo is. Like I’ve said before in my other comment, this isn’t hate at all, but she’s not a strong/impressive vocalist. Her notes can run flat at times and nothing makes her really stand out amongst other lead vocalists. Idk if it’s cause she hasn’t shown her full potential or she needs more training, but at least her acting is great!
@@sohailshaikh5417 he has literally said that he put them un that ranking because he thinks it's true and not cuz of blinks but you would rather paint blinks as the bad guys. Not seen a single blink attack him yet
@@sputchocho it's actually Sihyeon from EVERGLOW below BP's Jennie and Jisoo not Siyeon from Dreamcatcher since she is a Main Vocalist this ranking is for lead vocalist only.
@@PauloLima-gk2uh I've saw a lot of discussions here, on RU-vid, and sites from people that show understanding about vocal technique and they, most of the time, say that she is better, but just a lil bit and I tend to agree with, because they are quite the same (underdeveloped singers). They both just showned shallow support to F#4/G4
@@Natasha_bazooca_mommy No, Sihyeon have nice moments in G4/G#4 area compare to Mia who doesn’t support at all (relaxed only) So, she’s the best vocalist in the group. Sihyeon doesn’t suffer from nasality but her support is more of inconsistent.
It also doesn't help that Sihyeon while being the lead vocalist she is oftentimes treated like a main vocalist. She usually sings the chorus of their songs apart from getting many killing parts.
no cus twices producers really needs to stop giving nayeon notes that are too high for her to sing comfortably live like shes such a good vocalist they need to stop sabotaging her
Why do you have to be shocked? Jisoo deserves her position. The vocalists below her are not even better than her (not sure about Jennie). Jisoo may not be able to hit high super notes but it's ok since she's a mezzo. That's why her comfort zone is in the middle range and you can't blame her. Her voice is rich and deep naturally. Remember high note isn't everything. Her lows are beautiful and her mixed belts in the 4th octave sound pleasant and full.
i really hope that jisoo get a proper training. her technique is not healthy tbh. she's using a heavy throaty placement + pull chest voice that's why above B4 she starting to strain/pushy/throaty. but her lows and tone are beautiful and promising.
Tbh with how little BP have comebacks (and with their contract almost coming to an end) I doubt she’ll get the proper training she needs. Unless ofc BP doesn’t resign with YG, which I’m hoping for.
I feel like the main problem with JEONGYEON is that she's lost confidence throughout the years because of the producers not showing her they trust her enough to give her more challenging parts that could allow her to use her abilities at their full potential, despite knowing very well that she can do everything the other members of Twice's vocal line can do. Also, I feel like her thecnique isn't as good as it used to be because of this cute tone that JYPE forced on all the members, including her, making them sing in a nasal and high pitched voice, especially in their Japanese songs. Even if she doesn't use it as often, you can hear the difference between her live singing and her recorded parts. That's also why I prefer listening to her singing live. I literally cry everytime I think of how much of her potential was wasted by JYPE. She definitely is main vocalist material, but the company has been holding her back since debut. This is so frustrating.
Nayeon seriously has one of the most flexible/versatile voices - she can perfectly fit her voice to any twice song. Twice songs can be so incredibly hard to sing bc of the high pitch so it can make her a little inconsistent sometimes but I think she deserves to be a bit higher on the list
No, I think Jeongyeon is better than her. But I agree, Twice songs, especially I can't stop me, is too high for them and they give the most lines to Nayeon, straining her voice.
Nayeon is somewhat of an ace in Twice, I agree! Vocally she has potential and a lot to work on, but she is a really good performer and I'm not surprised how much love and attention she gets in the fandom.
@@aintnootherfan you mean love and attention in Korea and Asia fandom right? Because if you are taking about the fandom international. Oh she doesn’t have. I even read that Chaeyoung and Sana are better than her this days imagine :/
@@Oliver-uz1fs Thank. You. It's impossible to say pretty much anything about Nayeon without her stans crawling out of the woodwork to victimize her. I'm aware she gets a lot of hate that she really doesn't deserve but damn, there's seriously no need to go the extent that some fans are willing to go. One stan told me they have this forum where they post videos, comments, tweets, etc. that they perceive as hate for Nayeon and then the members of said forum go out and "defend" her under those videos or wherever the alleged hate came from. I was once attacked because I commented on a video that rearranged Twice positions and said that I would've made Jihyo center if I could go back in time just to see how that would work out. It didn't even take ten minutes for them to find my comment. It's honestly a little scary.
Oh, wow. I did think that Jisoo had problems with pitch, because lately, I’ve seen her go off key in live performances quite a few times. Also, it’s funny, because yesterday, I was on twitter saying I wished Jisoo attended vocal lessons because she could improve technically since her technique isn’t really THERE yet, but I got dragged instead, because her fans said that she sounds good and their was nothin wrong with her technique and that I should just clean my ears.
well to be fair Jisoo was really tried in that live performance, I mean THE SHOW, she was filming her drama while also preparing for the groups full album and THE SHOW, so for sure it took a toll on her, Yuki no Hana is my fav, she sounds so relaxed and good in it, so it shows she's not bad, she was just tired.
@@mosho64 i’m not talking about the show only. she’s had her fair share of moments in the past, but it was apparent in THE SHOW, then again, she was juggling hectic schedules, so I do understand. And yes, she did sounded relaxed in Yuki No Hana, because she was singing within her comfort range which is an example of how YG pushes their lead vocals to sing along with the main vocal without the proper technique to go along with it
@@ddej9143 blonks when everytime can't accept the truth about their faves: cLeAn YoUr EaRs, YoU aRe BiTtEr, JeAlOuS etc bEcAuSe YoUr FaVeS aReN't BeTtEr/BiGgEr As MiNe etc. Yet, they still surprised why their fandom is hated and why their faves are the most hated ever
@@anothermixer yeah, whenever you want to point out their weakness blonk just make you look like hater. It's sad they don't want their favs gets good trening in vocal.
My own personal ranking of the vocalists in this list: 1/2. Seulgi/Winter 3/4. Jeongyeon/Yoohyeon 5. Nayeon 6. Sihyeon 7/8. JiU/Jennie 9/10. Yeji/Jisoo.
@likapee :^ emm Yoohyeon definitely have support range even tho it could be shallow and inconsistent some times (your comment make it seems like she don't support at all) ,she has wider range, better agility and delivery ,better high register and vibrato ,just better overall IMO even judging only by the materials shown in the video compared to the names you mentioned ..there's a lot to be considered when it comes to evaluating singers
Honestly if Jisoo works on her placement and tension issues she would be phenomenal. She’s already great but if yg just gave better vocal training she could be amazing. Same with Jennie.
With all the money and time she has, years ago she could have improved her vocals, hired a personal trainer, same thing Jennie, if they haven't, it's because there's no interest. They have all the possibilities and comforts
As a Reveluv and a TRULY Seulgi biased ngl I feel like 🤪🤑🤭😛😋😎🥳🤠😁🥰😘☺🙈😚🤗😽🥺🤓🥵 And the fact that she auditioned to be a vocalist and ended up being the lead vocalist and MAIN dancer just wow she's a total ACE 🧡
Jisoo don’t even deserve to be lead vocalist 😂. You know if you give a mic to a normal person they’ll sing way better than jisoo . Jisoo is the living proof if you have visuals you don’t need talent to be in K-pop . If you’re gonna argue saying jisoo’s vocals are the best 💀then you’re probably lying to yourself,she ain’t a good singer .thanks to auto tune that people like jisoo still exist in music industry..
@@garimasuhani7227 I’m a former blink still i never liked her vocals,cuz jisoo’s voice range is so rough it will never ever be perfect to sing .everyone has personal preferences.i don’t think jisoo is a good vocalist.according to me jihyo,iu,taeyeon,winter ,ningning,seulgi,wendy,hanni ,jeongyeon ,nayeon . They’re the definition of good vocalists . Jisoo could no where stand a chance between them .I’m judging jisoo cuz i can sing better than the entire bp since I’ve been singing from 8 years old . So obviously i can say jisoo is not a great vocalist no one other than blinks would never ever accept jisoo as a good vocalist 😆.
@@kruelpse damn why is everyone becoming former blink now 😂😂, fr if you heard good vocalists voice like ( taeyon,iu,jihyo etc ) then you won’t even consider jisoo as a vocalist 😂😂
@@RU-vidforauction well.. their hiatus and music was awful before 2020, and waiting 2 years to hear bornpink was very dissapointing and their tour was a hot mass in a very bad way talking about vocals and dance so.. 😭
In conclusion: YG doesn't invest in good voice teachers for their idols. Why is that? They have more than enough money to attract some good teachers. I kinda feel bad for the idols, they're so talented, but they're kinda being left out to dry by their company.
Hmmm that was yg's responsibility before debut, after debut with all the money they earned even with their first song the girls could have invested their money in good vocal coaches, this years ago, themselves with all the money and time that they have compared to other idols in general, they could have improved their technique a long time ago by hiring personal trainers, not only in singing but also in dancing and rap and whatever they want, they have all the comforts and possibilities, if they haven't It is because there is simply no interest, that is, having everything in their favor, they cannot hire good vocal coaches, but they can buy houses and clothes worth millions of dollars???? Let's not make excuses for them, and it's not hate, but it is evident that there is no interest, it is understood that perhaps they can be discouraged by the fakta of comeback but groups in the same position or worse, groups that when they comeback are practically ghosts, they continue to improve and substantial improvements are seen despite their problems, it only shows that the girls are not interested in improving much more.
@@sputchocho the issue is that the members in the video is a rapper and a singer who wants to be an actor. They have no incentive to get vocal lessons and will do the bare minimum to get their paycheck. If they don't like their job then fair enough, but they should just quit instead of stringing fans along and helping YG scam blinks out of their money. I hope that BlackPink disband soon and pursue the individual careers that they want.
In terms of vocal ranking, Jennie is F+, Jisoo E-. Nayeon D-. Jeongyeon D+. So the difference between Jisoo and Nayeon is more than Nayeon and Jeongyeon, but not much difference.
@@Ri57490 you seem to have a personal problem with nayeon bc I saw you offending her in other posts. But if you wanna talk about vocal ranking you need to be objective not putting personal opnions. Every single vocal ranking put nayeon a D. And no one put Jisoo a E- only a F+
Thanks for adding Dreamcatcher. Position-wise, Yoohyeon could be a 2nd main vocalist and SuA could become the 2nd lead vocalist(she's already the main dancer and lead rapper so it ain't happening but I can dream!). I don't know for sure but I feel like Yoohyeon isn't the main vocalist because she was 17 at debut(in Minx) and Siyeon was 19, thus old enough for the pressure of that particular role. Overall, the rankings are pretty fair. As always, Blackpink has some good vocalists who could improve but YG is just like nah. 🤦🏿♀️ A lot of the lower down lead vocalists are honestly members with unique voices the label wanted to feature and that's the only reason they're a lead vocalist. Like, JiU is the undisputed queen of bridges and opening songs and not really known for any particular vocal skills. There's nothing wrong with that tbh and if I really like a singer then Imma ignore bad technique and simply enjoy myself. I honestly hope everyone else does the same and not get mad because an internet stranger thinks their fave is better or because someone made a critical video that is more objective than you usually find here and it hurt your feelings.
Oh yeah, I would have loved Yoohyeon as a second main vocalist of the group! Her softer, bright voice and more clean delivery works really well with Siyeon's more punchy and pugnacious style
Yup...Wendy's one of the best vocalists in Kpop overall and her title as the best 3rd gen female vocalist 🔥...If I hadnt listened to the Gods of Vocals Exo Main vocal line,I would hv placed her as the best main vocalist overall in 3rd gen....And Seulgi...Her vocals r just ❤... Yea Red Velvet nd Exo❤
@@lisaatedalgomschocolate8237I don’t think this ranking is accurate. It’s not really ranked by technique. I DONT hate Blackpink or Jisoo. B4 u start yelling at me . He didn’t want to get bashed by Toxic blinks if he ranked Jisoo and Jennie low. So I think it would be 1: Seulgi/Winter 2. Winter/Seulgi 3: Yoohyeon 4: Jeongyeon 5: Nayeon 6: Sihyeon 7: JiU 8: Jennie 9: Yeji 10: Jisoo
@@lisaatedalgomschocolate8237 don’t act stupid. I NEVER said I was. You don’t HAVE to be a professional to know everything about ‘technique’. So u can’t twist my words to make yours sound right. The fact I said repeatedly: ‘i think’ in my opinion shows I never fully agreed on them and that some contradictions are still there 😊. Pls use some common sense or moral, ethical arguments. And I never said Jisoo is bad. Your honesty the type of person who puts words into other peoples mouths to make them wrong and you right 🥲 rankings aren’t really ‘permanent’. That’s what people think. They always vary and WILL change in time.
I‘m surprised I didn’t see any Mamamoo here, but Seulgi totally deserves the title. I just think Jisoo is placed a bit high, but that’s just an opinion!
yoohyeon is definitely a good vocalist! it’s just that she has this issues with pitch and having a hard time hitting high notes, i hope she could fix that! also her agility is amazing 😭
@@gahcore yes, she can have pitch issues when she tries to sing high notes, she tends to be flat when tired (like from the concert or radio performances)
