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BSA A65 has new carbs and electronic ignition but won't run properly 1 Initial investigations 

Paul Henshaw
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This machine has been brought in for obvious reasons and I hope to get to the bottom of the problems very soon, but it would appear there may be issues with both the fueling and ignition sides of things going on together, just to add a little head scratching!

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27 июн 2023

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@geoffreyhicks53
@geoffreyhicks53 Год назад
New Premier carburettors? The new floats can be a nightmare, they stick in the closed position, too loose on the spindle, colliding with gaskets and the back of the float chamber, the new stay up float design has rounded off edges on the tab, old ones are sharp. The combination of loose spindle and old tab design gives intermittent sticking, had this problem on my Norton, drove me round the twist got there eventually, good luck, smashing videos.
@markalton2809
@markalton2809 Год назад
Another interesting conundrum. Looking forward to the diagnosis in due course.
@norsehall309
@norsehall309 Год назад
G'day from Australia, hi Paul, that's one sick BSA, fuel problem, timing out, rust in tank fuel, coil problems, who knows, good hunting, cheers mate, Neil 🤠.
@TornadoCAN99
@TornadoCAN99 Год назад
My experience with new Amal concentrics, Premiers, is the pilot circuits can sometimes have drilling swarf causing blockages right out of the packaging. Need to thoroughly clear them/poke through the circuit passageways etc until you achieve a nice spray out of the two tiny holes in the carb throat floor, one either side of the throttle slide edge, air inlet end. Also, the float pivot action can sometimes foul on the bowl gasket material and solution is to trim the gasket near the hinge pivot rod. On this bike, I'd check the fuel flow from the tap and also through the in-line filter and the mesh screen in the banjo on the float bowl. All potentially contributing to poor fuel flow on one side.
@anythingoldmechanical
@anythingoldmechanical Год назад
My BSA very soon, hopefully Paul when you have a slot. I hope it gets a feature!
@adammedyna2365
@adammedyna2365 Год назад
i Paul, never was a fan of those in line fuel filters and have a feeling ight side doesn't get enough fuel to work properly, so as a first step would check what is a fuel flow from right side tap to the carb.
@erickriebel4366
@erickriebel4366 Год назад
Normally there's two main things as fuel or is ignition. As long as the bike is in timing you'll get it going nice bike❤
@truthboomertruthbomber5125
@truthboomertruthbomber5125 Год назад
I’ve had a couple of situations where all the grounds for the new ign were bolted to the rubber mounted battery box resulting in intermittent sparks.
@windmilljohn
@windmilljohn Год назад
Crappy in-line filter on right side in fuel line possibly? It looked like an airlock when you showed the fuel line close up.
@spaceflight1019
@spaceflight1019 Год назад
Years ago I looked at one of those. It threw me off when I tried to start it! I took that as a bad omen and walked away.
@Jimdirt7898
@Jimdirt7898 Год назад
Love the Fly press
@grateberk6435
@grateberk6435 Год назад
Jiggling is best. Maybe air pockets are released in the process. I could stand there all day waiting for a flood on my AJS if i just held the button down. Jiggling seems to work on the Amal. PS lovely bike, looking forward to next installment
@jlh2701
@jlh2701 Год назад
Im no good at guessing or at diagnostics from a couple of hundred miles away via a short video on my computer, (unlike others it would seem) but I can tell it aint right, and its now in the best place to be put right that I can think of, so Ill patiently await the next installment to see whether its a 'simple' fix or another of those 'challenges' that you seem to be quite adept at sorting. 😀
@tomhill3262
@tomhill3262 Год назад
Petrol taps have filters in tank check there not blocked up.remove the external ones .Make up,some new pipelines .Fill tank halfway and open taps to check fuel flow of pipes .If OK connect to carbs ,open bottom large screws to clear air and tighten .Should run correctly .If not Not both slides same height ,chokes up mixture screws same . New plugs ,leads and insulted caps check.
@richardandrews6754
@richardandrews6754 Год назад
nice single that twin lol
@florabee9283
@florabee9283 Год назад
Verify fuel flows from the offending float bowl via the bowl drain. If no flow but flow is verified from the fuel line when pulled from the carb, suspect there may be some new-carb assembly snafu interfering with the float valve. Hopefully the bowl can be pulled whilst the carb remains in place to sort the float/valve operation if the above scenario holds. Also maybe add a liter or two of fuel just in case there is no cross hose on that tank and the right side is dry while the near side has fuel
@shingerz
@shingerz Год назад
Good video nice t shirt too 👍
@tomthumb3085
@tomthumb3085 Год назад
I would guess it’s fuel starvation. Check the petrol cap for venting, check the filters on the fuel taps and I assume there is new petrol in the tank, not some old fuel that’s been left for years. If all this fails, you’re going to need to strip the carbs down. May I suggest that you take it to a garage or competent mechanic though, as there are some pretty small parts in the carbs and very accurate sizes and measurements to consider. Lovely bike my friend, it’s always a pleasure to see these machines being preserved. Keep the videos coming.
@paulhenshaw4514
@paulhenshaw4514 Год назад
I regard myself as a competent mechanic - doing this sort of work is my job, but thanks anyway!
@russparker71
@russparker71 Год назад
I would guess that you're new to Paul's videos eh mate?
@alexyoung4763
@alexyoung4763 Год назад
@@paulhenshaw4514 correct, all the spanner monkeys like me are dying off i am now in my 80th year there are very few mechanics now they are all technicians plug it in read the diagnostics open a box take out an expensive part ,fit it,stand back pat your own back charge customer £100/hour take your rubber gloves off job done.
@fredscratchet1355
@fredscratchet1355 Год назад
Give me a carb and a set of points anytime!
@Ivorbiggin
@Ivorbiggin Год назад
⁠@@alexyoung4763…..lol 😂 your right , well said
@sicks6six
@sicks6six Год назад
fuel starvation would be my first thought then the CDI they often have intermittent faults that just can't be seen and trying one that you know works properly is often the only way of finding out if that is the problem, torch shone in the tank to start with . . . .
@rodrigoantunes8502
@rodrigoantunes8502 Год назад
the t-shirt is better then the bike...😂😂
@jjrider6758
@jjrider6758 Год назад
Paul, I think you'll find that if this Beeza had a decent quality plated brass keyring like the one on your Trident it would run just fine.. Also - if it takes your fancy - please make sure that you jab at the tickler and rev it to warm it up when it starts..
@paulhenshaw4514
@paulhenshaw4514 Год назад
Ha, ha - thank you!
@trevortrevortsr2
@trevortrevortsr2 Год назад
I would check the tappet clearance on the exhaust off side
@johndesmond1987
@johndesmond1987 Год назад
One thing I found working with my A65 is a problem with fitting an electronic ignition. The A65 engine has a wide advance range, 12 degrees according to the engraving on the points plate. When I fitted a Tri Spark system, which seems to have 8 degrees of advance, and correctly timed at full advance, the bike became quite hard to start.
@paulhenshaw4514
@paulhenshaw4514 Год назад
And let's not forget those advance figures need to be doubled to equate to crank rotation in degrees, as whether points or electronic, they are driven at half engine speed.
@pipersall6761
@pipersall6761 Год назад
I noticed a difference in the color of the exhausts like the one on the left was firing hotter
@amelierenoncule
@amelierenoncule Год назад
Often the human body rejects a replacement organ. Perhaps this A65 is doing the same with the EI ? NOW, I'll view the video to see.
@geraldscott4302
@geraldscott4302 Год назад
I always just hold the ticklers down until fuel comes out. If no fuel comes out, something is wrong. The tickler just holds the float down, so if there is no fuel coming out, that means there is no fuel getting into the carburetor when the needle valve is held open. Is the right side cylinder getting warm?
@jcreek3889
@jcreek3889 Год назад
I would check the fuel tap and carburettor jets and needle settings (?)
@hermangibbs8163
@hermangibbs8163 Год назад
Oh what fun.
@billperry1911
@billperry1911 Год назад
It would appear paul that we ( the great unwashed readership) have solved your problem !!! Sound advice I say !!! ( oh dear , I fear another rant may be due) I shall follow this one with bated breath. 😊
@paulhenshaw4514
@paulhenshaw4514 Год назад
Yes, a few experts seem to have fixed it already!
@tjr1064
@tjr1064 Год назад
Yep it'll be one of either no spark, no fuel or no compression - there are, i've solved it!
@dufus7396
@dufus7396 Год назад
A mistake often made is too many modifications at the same time...do either spark....or fuel air separatly and tune...that way you know if prob is spark ..or fuel air
@redtobertshateshandles
@redtobertshateshandles Год назад
It's like a 60 year old bike !! It needs a total resto. My dads got a 40 year old van and rushes me to fix it. Doesn't understand that all the rubber bits are perishing, other bits corroding, etc,etc. It's a Daihatsu, the only reason it's still alive.
@paulhenshaw4514
@paulhenshaw4514 Год назад
It's had a 'total resto', but not a very good one ...
@EdOfTheNorth
@EdOfTheNorth Год назад
Just a short piece of pipe to bypass the filters for a start.That would rule out fuel taps as well as filters to start. Then head into the carbs. It is a fuel problem and those porous bronze Inline fuel filters made in China suck.
@biscuitbarrel5589
@biscuitbarrel5589 Год назад
Yes, I'd junk the lawnmower fuel filters whether they're the fault or not. 40 years ago I fitted one on my 900 Honda and it wouldn't flow enough petrol to run the bike.
@neilmcintosh1200
@neilmcintosh1200 Год назад
I'm not going to guess, I'll just watch you go through the normal trouble shooting routines. Sooner rather than later you'll fettle it.
@ernestwilliams3112
@ernestwilliams3112 Год назад
New parts and no start .let the games begin 😂
@rodericde876
@rodericde876 Год назад
Thunderbolt and lightning very very frightening.
@paulhenshaw4514
@paulhenshaw4514 Год назад
Indeed!
@basilwatson1
@basilwatson1 Год назад
One cylinder looks to be running hotter than the other ( left hand side ) and as I type this carbs look to be the issue ! lets see ! waits with baited breath
@mc2594
@mc2594 Год назад
I know BSA made Guns and Bikes but not often at the same time? sounds like the points or coils are wired wrong to me, or at least once any fuel gets past the 'trending tropical fish food filled visu filters' and 'multiple each one different fuel pipe clamp showcase variety selection' aka _gack plastic fuel lines_ it's obvious something is wired 180 degrees out on the right cylinder. I'll wait and see how wrong I was now 🤪
@martincvitkovich724
@martincvitkovich724 Год назад
I'd run a single carb head. Why fight with that dual carb? They were a hassle then, they are a hassle now. And they run smoother with a single carb.
@paulhenshaw4514
@paulhenshaw4514 Год назад
Twin carbs can work fine and will do on this one soon enough.
@redtobertshateshandles
@redtobertshateshandles Год назад
This bike is approximately 60 years old. People make you laugh. Just get it going, will you. What do you mean it needs work?? 😂
@mervingoose1151
@mervingoose1151 Год назад
oh boy drove me nuts
@paulhenshaw4514
@paulhenshaw4514 Год назад
How do you think I felt ...
@BLUESBOYBENFIELD
@BLUESBOYBENFIELD Год назад
Needs "stay-up" floats from Amal……
@stevekwall925
@stevekwall925 Год назад
Hi Paul love your video's where did you get that shirt would love to own one .
@paulhenshaw4514
@paulhenshaw4514 Год назад
That T shirt was part of a very generous gift from a subscriber from the U.S.
@stevekwall925
@stevekwall925 Год назад
@@paulhenshaw4514 very kind of him .
@colvinator1611
@colvinator1611 Год назад
I don't know why people don't just press the ticler once. After a few seconds if there's nothing coming out then the problem is a stuck float valve or external.
@paulhenshaw4514
@paulhenshaw4514 Год назад
I have been over this before, I will carry on doing it my way, you can carry on doing it your way ...
@dufus7396
@dufus7396 Год назад
The most styish British bike ever
@ronaldburgess2884
@ronaldburgess2884 Год назад
I never tickle my carbs like that. Pro tip....hold the tickler down until fuel squirts out. If it doesn't, there's your dinner (as Taryl says). Run the bike up to 1800 RPM. If it clears out, that tells you the idle and low speed circuits are plugged. That's what my 1967 Matchless G15CS was doing. Hard starting and stalling. Replaced the right side carburetor, and that did the trick. Turns out the passages in the float bowl were plugged. I figured that out after buying a new carb. Always good to have a spare.
@paulhenshaw4514
@paulhenshaw4514 Год назад
Pro tip my a*se.
@dogpaw775
@dogpaw775 Год назад
morse code, telegraph operator ? Hew carb's, full of swarf.
@wdhewson
@wdhewson Год назад
BB ignitions are never very good.
@paulhenshaw4514
@paulhenshaw4514 Год назад
This is a Wassell, the one that fried on my own A65 was a Pazon - I converted it back to points, which I prefer to any electronic ignitions.
@Headwind-1
@Headwind-1 Год назад
gotten get fuel filters working properly or it will not work rightg sounds like a single awfyul turn it off
@Headwind-1
@Headwind-1 Год назад
carbs are badly set up anyway .. just saying new 32mm amals nice . . . .
@Headwind-1
@Headwind-1 Год назад
make sure the floatpins is not sticking on the float its all new . ..
@eoinmurphy210
@eoinmurphy210 Год назад
just needs a kawasaki engine
@paulhenshaw4514
@paulhenshaw4514 Год назад
Oh someone help me control my laughter, please ...
@JeremyFairbairn-mv3sz
@JeremyFairbairn-mv3sz Год назад
petrol cop breather may be
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