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BSA R12 Super carbine UK Spec overview 

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HI guys got a video here for you today on a new rifle coming to the channel and this one is going to be on the BSA R12. Its not fantastic to be honest but I am sure with a little work we can make it into a cracking little rifle. And don't forget to come down to the PetesAirgunFarm bootsale on the 30th of September
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@gallantone1535
@gallantone1535 9 месяцев назад
As usual good fair comments you are one of the very few who give fair criticism well done Which must help a lot of people make their mind up.👍👍
@sub12airgunners
@sub12airgunners 9 месяцев назад
thanks and thanks for watching 👍
@leec8592
@leec8592 9 месяцев назад
A nice overview of the new R12 .... Looking forward to the strip down
@sub12airgunners
@sub12airgunners 9 месяцев назад
thanks Lee you i am looking forward to getting it in bits 😁
@tonyrebelo3038
@tonyrebelo3038 9 месяцев назад
Nice review as always Jake. Looking forward to the results of your 'little bit of work' 😉
@sub12airgunners
@sub12airgunners 9 месяцев назад
Thanks Tony 😀
@bashm5767
@bashm5767 9 месяцев назад
Great video guys as always, interesting to see the improvement in accuracy and possibly the shot count👍🏼
@sub12airgunners
@sub12airgunners 9 месяцев назад
thanks for watching 😀
@skalliwag2766
@skalliwag2766 9 месяцев назад
The best reviews on utube, and just about the only one i trust , thanks for the reviews, hope to meet you at pete air gun farm,
@skalliwag2766
@skalliwag2766 9 месяцев назад
Hi what are you called on Ebay, I would like to see what you sell on Ebay
@sub12airgunners
@sub12airgunners 9 месяцев назад
hi yes we will be at Petes 👍 we are sub 12 airgunners on ebay
@eddienuttall2485
@eddienuttall2485 9 месяцев назад
Nice one Geoff. I have an R10 that has had mods and is good. I do like the R12 so looking forward to see what you do with this👍👍.
@sub12airgunners
@sub12airgunners 9 месяцев назад
thanks and thanks for watching 👍
@redgum1340
@redgum1340 9 месяцев назад
Great looking rifle and I'm sure you will get it nice and right.
@sub12airgunners
@sub12airgunners 9 месяцев назад
thanks and thanks for watching 👍
@philbate5555
@philbate5555 9 месяцев назад
Great honest video jake , it's a shame that a company like bsa aren't giving more attention to detail ie standard dovetail and a decent crown would be a good start. Looking forward to seeing how it shoots when you've added you're magic .
@sub12airgunners
@sub12airgunners 9 месяцев назад
thanks phil
@lisawood516
@lisawood516 9 месяцев назад
Good honest review, cheers 👌
@sub12airgunners
@sub12airgunners 9 месяцев назад
thanks and thanks for watching 👍
@paulcarruthers1314
@paulcarruthers1314 9 месяцев назад
Great review, look forward to your improvements, pity they’re required tho. I nearly bought one when they came out, truthfully I’m glad I didn’t as a couple of guys have had issues with theirs.
@sub12airgunners
@sub12airgunners 9 месяцев назад
yes i have seen good and bad now, it could be such a nice gun
@danbrown6255
@danbrown6255 9 месяцев назад
Looking forward to the build going from average to perfection I'm sure 👍
@sub12airgunners
@sub12airgunners 9 месяцев назад
thanks and thanks for watching 👍
@redpillnibbler4423
@redpillnibbler4423 7 месяцев назад
Good honest review 👍 Looks like BSA need to pull their socks up!
@sub12airgunners
@sub12airgunners 7 месяцев назад
thank you and thanks foe watching 👍
@ggnat
@ggnat 9 месяцев назад
A good honest review showing the good and not so good. A nice looking rifle but will stick to my Ultimate .Thank you .
@sub12airgunners
@sub12airgunners 9 месяцев назад
thanks and thanks for watching 👍
@tillysgunstocks
@tillysgunstocks 9 месяцев назад
The stick I got for suggesting the stock fixing bolt hole was in the wrong place on the ultra clx 😆 Now it's been moved exactly where I said it should be. 🤔 Monitor how quickly the pellet probe gets eaten by the tension on the magazine when retracting/cocking , it'll start shaving softer pellets and the blow by of the probe oring blasts the shavings back into the block
@sub12airgunners
@sub12airgunners 9 месяцев назад
🤣 that's how it works mate, but at least they did move it😀 i am waiting to wake up with a horses head in bed with me after the revue of the Panthera 😂😂 yes the pellet probe has got plenty of wear on it already and we stopped using the mag pretty quick, that mag jumps all over the place when you load a pellet 🙄
@tillysgunstocks
@tillysgunstocks 9 месяцев назад
@@sub12airgunners when we were campaigning the BSAs on the hft circuit coming up maybe 15ish years ago, we fed back all this stuff. I've got some of the first prototypes still of the first auto indexing bsa mags here. The current probe arrangement is absolutely perfect for a single shot configuration block,but the auto indexing mags eat the probes and the orings. Let's see if you end up with the same work around as we did all them years ago, I've got a load the parts here still as I actually hold all my hft PBS with BSAs....
@AshF1
@AshF1 9 месяцев назад
Fantastic review! Are you going to be reviewing the AGT Vulcan 3? Would love to see you do a tear down of that. Getting a new rifle soon and it's between the Ghost or Vulcan3. Also, what rifle (sub12) do you personally keep/plink with most?
@sub12airgunners
@sub12airgunners 9 месяцев назад
we will be doing a V3 soon 😀 i have m3 that is like triggers broom that i have had since they came out and that's nearly always with me at the range i have won BR comps with it and i just plink with it i think i am just very comfortable with it 😁
@caspian40
@caspian40 9 месяцев назад
Have BSA ever produced a rifle that performs out the box, i don't think they have, had a BSA-R10 Mk 2 and took it straight from the shop and drove to John Bowkett's home and hand delivered it for him to work his magic it was a consistent accurate gun and one i enjoyed shooting but would i buy another BSA air rifle no i wouldn't. I will be looking forward to seeing what you can do with this as i do love the look of this rifle.
@sub12airgunners
@sub12airgunners 9 месяцев назад
i think they do, i have never had one but some are lucky and it is a real shame they can be fantastic guns
@caspian40
@caspian40 9 месяцев назад
@@sub12airgunners The R12 is a lovely looking gun in the Grey laminate and I was tempted but based on the past track record i decided not too. Looking forward to seeing if you can make this a tack driver with your skillset I'm sure it will be.
@iwanvanderhut4159
@iwanvanderhut4159 9 месяцев назад
I'm quite interested to see how it compares to my old and tuned r10se. Which was a lovely gun and with a simple reg tune up gave 200 shoots to a fill. Accuracy was sub five pence at 48 yards.
@sub12airgunners
@sub12airgunners 9 месяцев назад
it got a hard act to follow my r10 was spot on in the end 😀 i sure this will be to
@ianwoods1384
@ianwoods1384 6 месяцев назад
Hello Gentlemen, I'm sure both of you are more experienced than I am. That kind of accuracy from your BSA R10 would be a hard act to follow from any air rifle. Sub five pence at 48 yards must be pretty serious accuracy.
@jeffhello1444
@jeffhello1444 6 месяцев назад
@@ianwoods1384 yes a sub 5p group is great but i would be happy if it would do that consistently it is a bit random
@Pete-in-Essex
@Pete-in-Essex 9 месяцев назад
Good info, thanks.
@sub12airgunners
@sub12airgunners 9 месяцев назад
thanks and thanks for watching 👍
@three-phase562
@three-phase562 9 месяцев назад
I do like a BSA rifle, have an R10 and an Ultra CLX. Will be interesting to see what modifications you make to it, but that 13mm dovetail they use is a complete pita.
@sub12airgunners
@sub12airgunners 9 месяцев назад
it's lovely to shoot, looks good and when we sort the barrel it will be a great gun 😁
@matthewyates1719
@matthewyates1719 9 месяцев назад
My BSA r10 th is good .I had a reaction too the plastic adjustable butt thing. After shooting for 30ish minutes my face got red and was slightly pain full like a shaving rash had to cover it in leather .I also had too heat the silencer part up as it was set rock hard with the factory grease .The rifle shoots really good much better than my old maverick and price is good too compared to others
@sub12airgunners
@sub12airgunners 9 месяцев назад
yes the R10 can be a great gun if you get a good one they are hard to beat 😁
@casperboo5465
@casperboo5465 9 месяцев назад
That stock looks great mate, i really do like it, and i know you will get it sorted out, but from a customers point of view, the price your paying, you shouldnt have to do the things you do to them to get get them as should be, just my own personal thoughts on it Jeff, Cheers 👌👌👍👍👍👍
@sub12airgunners
@sub12airgunners 9 месяцев назад
i agree you shouldn't need to do anything they should just work, but it's a shame so many don't after the panthera i was hoping for a good r12 🙄
@dean11daly
@dean11daly 9 месяцев назад
Good evening, I was looking forward to seeing this video but a little shocked at your findings, I’m not doubting you because you are obviously a very intelligent man and extremely knowledgeable and clever but I honestly think that this must be a dud… my R10s and R12s shoot like laser beams, I can’t comment on the other brands that you’ve worked on recently because I only have have 4 AirArms, 4 BSA’s and a HW100 but I would never ever ever swap either of them. I’m looking forward to see if you can improve the R12 because like I said you are very clever. All that said thanks for making the videos for us and sharing your thoughts. I wish I had your capabilities 👍
@sub12airgunners
@sub12airgunners 9 месяцев назад
yes i think when we sort the crown out it will be a lot better 😀 thanks for watching
@Tim_Bassett
@Tim_Bassett 9 месяцев назад
Thanks for the overview - looking forward to the series. Finding a carbon bottle with the right diameter is going to be a problem, although I agree it would have been nice and they could have done a deal with a company....that would have set the gun apart nicely. No mention of a bounce....is that carried over from the 10?
@colinstevens6837
@colinstevens6837 9 месяцев назад
the r10 bottle should fit it i think they are probably just using up old stock of steel bottles same with daystate using gauges that are red at 200bar on guns that can be filled to 250
@sub12airgunners
@sub12airgunners 9 месяцев назад
There is a little bounce still there but at least they are being a bit more realistic with the shot count, yes i agree we are going to struggle to find a bottle that looks nice😁
@998Twin
@998Twin 9 месяцев назад
Great video as always 👍 can I ask your opinion out of the box, with no after purchase fettling, what would you spend your money on in the £1000-£1200 price range ? That’s my dilemma , I’m currently drawn towards an AA ultimate spotter . Cheers
@sub12airgunners
@sub12airgunners 9 месяцев назад
I think i would go Daystate Revere but the ultimate sporter is a great gun as well 😀😀
@carlvandermerwe9492
@carlvandermerwe9492 9 месяцев назад
Will you have the Dreamline slide loader available on the 30th? (Still loving your "new" trigger blade..)
@sub12airgunners
@sub12airgunners 9 месяцев назад
i don't no yet we are getting bits together now 👍 glad you like the trigger
@colinstevens6837
@colinstevens6837 9 месяцев назад
i had a go with a .22 when they were launched and though the stock was just right and the trigger felt comfortable and it was reasonably accurate for straight out of the box. i was more impressed with it than the brocock ghost which i found uncomfortable in the shoulder the trigger awful especially compared to my sniper xr ( i have tuned my xr a little though )
@sub12airgunners
@sub12airgunners 9 месяцев назад
yes the AR style guns are always to short for me the sport style fits much better 👍
@Relaxbadkneeadventures
@Relaxbadkneeadventures 9 месяцев назад
Niceeeeeeee
@sub12airgunners
@sub12airgunners 9 месяцев назад
thanks and thanks for watching 👍
@DeadShotSherman
@DeadShotSherman 9 месяцев назад
I shot the previous R10 J&J tune. I’m sure this one will be just as good or even better 😎😎
@sub12airgunners
@sub12airgunners 9 месяцев назад
thanks mate 😁
@markhomer5704
@markhomer5704 9 месяцев назад
Bought one about a year ago , had a bit of difficulty finding a pellet that worked well , ended up with Baracuda FT's ( lights ) seemed to have got a bit more accurate as times gone on .. could that be the choke smoothing out with usage?? Who knows .. anyway its " ok - good " and your right , the AA Ultimate Sporter is better in a lot of respects .. liked the vid , good initial review .
@sub12airgunners
@sub12airgunners 9 месяцев назад
thanks for watching, SS loading it is a lot better and i think when we sort the crown out it will get better again 😁
@brorjordas1979
@brorjordas1979 9 месяцев назад
Somehow I think that this particular rifle is somehow magically gonna perform just as Snickers... Better? Better .
@sub12airgunners
@sub12airgunners 9 месяцев назад
thanks and thanks for watching 👍
@desnorton8293
@desnorton8293 9 месяцев назад
😊I have one and had nothing but trouble with the magazines a lot of trouble I trued to contact Bsa very hard to contact any way sent the mags back they were a bit better but I still don’t like them very poor.I don’t like the adjustable comb why it’s black I don’t know I think it’s spoils the look of it.I don’t like the trigger I think it’s plastic for the price of it it’s poor and the steel bottle I don’t like it would be far better carbon fibre .mine does shoots spot on I haven’t checked the crown I do get a few flyers I think the problem is the mags .I watch all your bloggs on u tube and it’s good to get honest reviews not like most of tHe reviewers who also do reviews ie Andy’s Airguns big dans etc,I have been out and bought some of these air rifles and most are shite especially smiling imported models glad to see there is some honest people about and keep up the good work .regards and best wishes des
@sub12airgunners
@sub12airgunners 9 месяцев назад
thanks and thanks for watching 👍 i have to agree the mags are a problem
@jeffhello1444
@jeffhello1444 9 месяцев назад
nice
@sub12airgunners
@sub12airgunners 9 месяцев назад
thank you and thanks for watching
@paulspeller968
@paulspeller968 9 месяцев назад
to be fair the one i shot down the range (long barrel) was pin accurate had a single shot loader and was firing the jsb shorts . don’t th k he had fannyed about with it . but he does tinker so he may have tweaked it i did not ask . certainly did not like the metal bottle but then he don’t like the carbon fibre ones . stick was absolutely stunning i thought 👍
@sub12airgunners
@sub12airgunners 9 месяцев назад
yes i think we have had a bit of bad luck with the barrel on this one but the mags not great that's for sure 😁
@Beef0121do1
@Beef0121do1 2 месяца назад
Jake the valve return spring spacer. Is that the black part that sits in between the valve return spring and the regulator? What's the benefits on removing this? Cheers
@sub12airgunners
@sub12airgunners 2 месяца назад
yes that's the part we removed it so we could run a lighter hammer and spring to make the cocking feel softer but still keep the hammer bounce to a minimum it just makes it a little easer to open the firing valve
@ravenravenbelarus
@ravenravenbelarus 9 месяцев назад
Good afternoon. Tell me this distance is 50 yards, and what is the diameter of the black circle on the target. Is it a golden fly or more?
@sub12airgunners
@sub12airgunners 9 месяцев назад
50 yds and a 25mm circle 😁
@desnorton8293
@desnorton8293 9 месяцев назад
It’s very hard to contact Bsa they make it very hard if you want spares you have to ring john knibbs Since they sold out to the Spanishthey have gone to the dogs no customer support as I say I’ve had nothing but trouble with the mags I do get a few flyers due to mag but it’s very accurate with rws supercomputer field line .some pellets I have tried are very hard to put in mag I think if they got the mags right and put a carbon bottle it would be ok.
@sub12airgunners
@sub12airgunners 9 месяцев назад
yes i just don't get the metal bottle, and the mags 🙄
@canofanger
@canofanger 9 месяцев назад
Would it be possible to mill off the dovetail in order to add on a picatinny rail instead?
@sub12airgunners
@sub12airgunners 9 месяцев назад
we may do that or do what we did to the redwolf 😁
@redpillnibbler4423
@redpillnibbler4423 7 месяцев назад
Easier to buy an adaptor?
@sub12airgunners
@sub12airgunners 7 месяцев назад
@@redpillnibbler4423 you can do but i don't like them 👍👍
@johndanville6643
@johndanville6643 9 месяцев назад
Good video as always, you sure know your stuff,wish I had got into airguns years ago, but I was married and was not allowed. Not married now thank f..k ☺️
@sub12airgunners
@sub12airgunners 9 месяцев назад
🤣🤣 thanks for watching
@johndanville6643
@johndanville6643 9 месяцев назад
@@sub12airgunners you know it makes totall sense!
@memememe2674
@memememe2674 6 месяцев назад
Would you know if this stock will fit a r10 mk2? Thanks
@sub12airgunners
@sub12airgunners 6 месяцев назад
no i don't think so 👍
@martinhart1798
@martinhart1798 9 месяцев назад
Great video on a great looking gun which I agree was nice to shoot and cock ,such a shame about the accuracy.
@sub12airgunners
@sub12airgunners 9 месяцев назад
thanks and thanks for watching 👍
@shaunjones6049
@shaunjones6049 6 месяцев назад
Had 2 R10se s 😉 the improved model from the R 10, and they were a total let down inconsistent accuracy and magazine jams 😔 Watched the release and the raving reviews for the R12 🙄from some of the you tubers . I thought 🤔 well maybe BSA have sorted out the magazine problems and the reg issues . 😔 But no same old thing release a new improved model with the same old problems 😔😔. I feel so sorry for the people who purchased these rifles 😔 And now I look at quite a few you tubers who sang the praises of BSA R12 and wonder why they didn’t do a honest review 🤔 BSA management just don’t seem to care about the products they produce , BSA rifles are not fit for purpose, time and again they release faulty products 😔
@sub12airgunners
@sub12airgunners 6 месяцев назад
yes i know what you mean BSA had the opportunity to make a great gun and ended up making the same mistakes 😳
@ahmadfakhrie9351
@ahmadfakhrie9351 9 месяцев назад
Keren keren mantap ❤❤👍👍
@sub12airgunners
@sub12airgunners 9 месяцев назад
thanks you 👍
@xWILZTAx
@xWILZTAx 9 месяцев назад
Good looking rifle, but those groups are absolutely terrible.
@sub12airgunners
@sub12airgunners 9 месяцев назад
yes not great, thanks for watching 👍
@crypto_creep8222
@crypto_creep8222 9 месяцев назад
Still using that wack aluminum bottle. Bsa needs to upgrade to a carbon fiber bottle
@sub12airgunners
@sub12airgunners 9 месяцев назад
yes i totally agree
@Fauziaceh-lv5tp
@Fauziaceh-lv5tp 9 месяцев назад
Ampek brpaan tu mas
@sub12airgunners
@sub12airgunners 9 месяцев назад
thanks and thanks for watching 👍
@meatballs9453
@meatballs9453 9 месяцев назад
So glad I sold my R10 it was a dog
@sub12airgunners
@sub12airgunners 9 месяцев назад
yes mine was to, it was good in the but out of the box it was dreadful
@Kralk.66
@Kralk.66 3 месяца назад
Just would like to ask why you shoot at 50 yards. You seem a switched on guy a probably understand dispersion. I personally don’t see any benefits or pleasure putting a sub 12 rifle out to test at anything really beyond 30 / 35 yards, be it hunting or target. Shooting indoors just leaves you three variables to work with, pellet, Gun and the shooter, gravity is a constant. From my testing, pellet weight difference from the same tin has absolutely no effect on accuracy. Putting pellets through a sizer makes no difference to accuracy but it does assist the pellets loading smoother. I test at 8.5 yards indoors but can predict my results out to any distance. A group out at 50 yards with any reasonable gun and pellet would have a dispersion radius of 6mm at best out to 25+mm, but you need to shoot a sensible number for testing. 3 or 5 shot groups prove nothing, shoot between 20 / 59 shot groups and you will see the dispersion pattern for any particular rifle and pellet combo. Love your work on the guns.
@alanmullock381
@alanmullock381 9 месяцев назад
Quantity rules again😢
@sub12airgunners
@sub12airgunners 9 месяцев назад
😂 it is a shame i was really hoping it was going to be great😁
@robagg6899
@robagg6899 3 месяца назад
Boring animated voice - out of here at 57 mins
@sub12airgunners
@sub12airgunners 3 месяца назад
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