BTS Cypher Medley Live in Seoul 2017 

BTS are the ones that got me to appreciate Rap and HipHop. I didn’t really like it before just for the reasons you stated. Ours tends to be all about degrading women, money, drugs and power. RM, Suga, and JHope all showed me their flavor of rap and I love it!

It’s normal for new BTS listeners to think songs are related to romantic relationships. I’ve learned that many of them may be about other important relationships, such as with the self, each other, army and industry.

They were crapped on by the industry as a whole which kept saying they can’t rap and aren’t hip hop. If I remember right 1 was directed to the general music and hip hop industry that ridiculed them as wannabe sellout rappers that turned mainstream into idols. 2 they did an interview when they were 19 that was supposed to be a celebration of hip hop but the entire panel of older artists and critics, especially one guy, totally disrespected them, so this was their response to them. 3 was them flexing saying look where we are as artists despite all your hate. And 4 was their we not mad anymore. We have moved beyond the hate and we love who we are. No one told Suga tho as on 4 he still crapped on people 😂💜

Sorry for flooding your comment section. For RM's part in Cypher part 4, haters were always hating on his everything. From his hair, to his sun glasses, his name "Rap Monster", his looks (they said he's ugly and is not fit to be and idol), he received death threats, hence the part when he said "Because I'm breathing, sorry bae". The "bae" could mean "babe" or junior/senior (hu"bae"/sun"bae" in Korean) in the industry.

About the "sorry bae" parts, it's actually about all the comments RM getting from all of those haters. Them mocking his name, pronouncation, diction and even his appearance. He was sorry for them because despite of all those words and praying for him to die, he still remain breathing and healthy.

BTS is one thing. The rap line is another. As rappers they are true hip hop and they write from their soul to let the frustration of what they’ve gone through come out. All these are about their haters, not girls or other bands. It’s a way to let those who hated on them know they fed off of their negative comments to grow even bigger. You can only imagine how much s-it they had to hear from those so-called underground rappers who used to know them back in the day and then criticized and turned their backs on them. Just imagine how hurt you’d be if you were in their shoes. They used those feelings to write their cyphers.😢 They are amazing!!!!!! 💜💜💜💜💜

Thanks for reaction guys. These rappers are genius who writes lyrics from the beginning for group and also , their solos as we know SUGA 's almost all solos belong him as songwriter and producer, also most Rapline parts and songs are written and produced themselves.. Especially RM and Suga were criticized by underground rappers as we know both of them had came from underground rap. These rap songs dedicated to them)

@D&J Reacts, hi guys I’m glad you’re doing the Cypher medley from 2017! They’re not talking about BigBang so much they’re talking about the underground rappers who disrespected them if remember in the Taylor guide there was a snippet of both Suga and RM being ridiculed by A rapper name B-Free which suga of BTS is dissimg him because he comes from Hawaii when he said just go take a vacation go back to Hawaii he specifically speaking to him and the other underground rappers who said that they’re not hip-hop anymore because they joined a K-pop idol group! 💜

They talking about haters RM is saying sorry for breathing literally cause they been hating on everything for no reason but they keep winning in the end so he said he doesn’t even hate the haters anymore they keep talking and makes him grow

BTS' songs aren't really about male-female relationships,but relationships with friends, family and above all the relationship , the one that we have with ourselves (shadows, ego, persona)etc, with their song lyrics you have to look beyond.. 💜 Cypher are all directed to the haters and rappers who mocked them back then by calling them girls etc...

funniest short description of the three BTS rappers: Suga will straight up tell you you're sh_t, RM will explain to you why you're sh_t and J-Hope will tell you it's ok to be sh_t. 💜💜 This was their reply to being disrespected by people within the underground HipHop community and from online haters - they said that since BTS were now idols that they were no longer real rap artists. They didn't get into public fights - they answered their haters thru song..... Correct that their RAP is of a higher IQ..... This performance was for a concert as a treat for ARMY. Fun Fact BTS have a lot of respect and love for Big Bang. (in fact Jimin just did a song this year with Taeyang "Vibe" - and Suga interviewed him on SUCHWITA (his talk show)

This is the era where Agust D was so aggressive & angry with all the heaters particularly those undetground rappers who looked down of him & RM made fun of them like they're like girls wearing make up if they become an idol saying its a conflict for them to become an idol coming from Undergdound rapper. Suga when he got angry and express it to his music just totally honest, no poetically angry words for the heaters but slammed the heatets straightforward and no beating around the bush!

I'd recommend their song "Born Singer", a BTS version of J.Cole's Born Sinner. I'd prefer the "Proof" live version. They also performed their song "Yet To Come"

Suga mentioned that he sets traps in his rap and if you get offended by what he says then you basically fell into the trap. Sort of like, if the shoes fits then I guess he is talking to you kind of thing.

bae in this context is not the bae we use in the english language. it refers to the end syllable of the words sunbae (seniors) and hoobae (juniors) which refers to their peers in the same industry. it's meant to be sarcastic when bts apologize to their "baes" for the criticism they've received regarding their lack of talent.

07:00 exactly, that's why o immediately gave my attention to bts, not only rappers are real rappers and bot pretend like other idol rappers, but their lyricism is so beautiful amd complex, my favourite BTS song is Outro:Tear - rapline song that was written when they contemplated disbandment due to immense pressure wheb they reached level no other kpopcgroup did before, but it's written by rapline so beautifully universal that anyone can relate

In fact they have very few love songs in their 300+ discography. Songs you may like (with all 7 members) - We on, Come back home, N.O, Not today, Silver spoon

-bae in Korean has several other meanings as a suffix to some of their words, so the use of bae is also a wordplay. You should check out the DKDKTV explanation video for Cyphers. They really give it back to their haters in this series of songs. And instead not hating on their haters, they turn it around and try to teach their haters to love themselves so they won’t waste their energy hating others.

not Big bang , BTS has high respect to them since their rookie days 'til now, the one member of Bigbang Teayang even had a Collab with Jimin to a song "Vibe" realeased on the first month of 2023.

You guys *really* need to watch XCeleste's BTS Hardships 2013-2021 (linked below 😉) to fully understand what they've gone through. It's not a fun video but it'll give you a great insight into both BTS and their close relationship with ARMY. You could say that it's the dark shadow behind all the accomplishments from Taylor's guide. 💜 BTS Hardships 2013-2021: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-EdY6wnLsetQ.html

Surprised you did The Cypher Medley live before you gone through the Cyphers 2 - 4 individually. I still recommend you check them out as well because they're worth it. This is one of the Rap Line's best performances that I really get hyped for and love. The energy between the boys and the ARMY is 🔥🔥🔥! The Vocal Line is no joke either.

Great reaction guys. There’s a video by xCeleste titled ‘Who is BTS?’ I think that will give you more context of their early years. 💜

Check Ddaeng and Ugh, they are rap lines anthem. Its a must to check the explanation of the song from DKDKTV channel. It has deeper meaning behind those raps...DKDKTV channel usually explains BTS songs and you will love their songs mo4e once you get to know the explanation. Thanks for reacting to BTS.

FYI: Most of BTS songs aren’t love songs except during their School Luv Affair era, after that when they are talking about a “First Love” (Which is actually about Yoongi’s love for the piano which was his first love) or singing about being with someone for a long time or coincidence or fate e.g “DNA” they are either referring to the other BTS members finding one another or they are talking about ARMYs. e.g “Take Two” “Save Me” or “We Are Bulletproof: The Eternal”

They respect Bigbang as their senior in this industry.

Next 'OUTRO:TEAR' Live Wembley please. It's legendary performance

Go BTS-UGH lyrics + live performance 😊😢

BTS loves Big Bang. Younger version of BTS always talk about Big Bang as their inspiration. It's in their vlogs.. There's just some underground rappers who looked down on them.

5:01 actually, bigbang was one of the big inspirations of BTS mostly in their first songs and before they have a BTS unique sound, many of the member are really fans of Bigbang, even Jimin got to collaborate with taeyang. Bigbang is really big in the kpop industry and inside the kpop groups to, thats why they're called the idols of idols, because many kpop idols are fans.

You might want to check out : The Most Beautiful Life Goes On: A Story of BTS f2023 update) from Rice Squad

Their discography is no joke if y'all just dive deep. Because what y'all mostly seen and heard aren't even 1% of their discography. And the majority of their diss song is for anyone who feels targeted, they dont mention a name, if the shoe fits then wear it. But the cyphers are mostly for underground rappers (...especially b-free) who looked down on them.

BTS dont really have love songs. Most of their songs are about self love and dealing with struggles. They arent the typical boyband. Theres a mix of genres, and their pop songs arent the typical poppy bubble gum beat either. I was always a metal head before BTS. But they find you when you need them. I have been a fan since they started in 2013, and most of my friends who are also metalheads listen and appreciate their music

Cypher 4 is my fav of the Cyphers sorry bae 🙏 but I do enjoy the line that Yoongi says that “he will turn on all the girls & boys with his tongue technology” For some other great Rap Line performances I would recommend Ugh live performance at Busan 2022 and DDaeng with both Rap Line & Vocal Line at Muster.

Yes, they often would collapse after the shows or even between songs. Then they had the energy to do lives with ARMY after the shows.

Love your reactions. You should really check out the full version of each cyphers. Everyone has their own epic bars. They are talking sh!t against their haters that disrespect them. Also their other raps are really hard.

These guys are indie rock hip hop under the trappings of pop ❤

If you like these, you might like "Ddaeng" and "UGH". I would suggest watching the explanation videos by DKDKTV as well to understand why the lyrics are sooooo good.

You should watch more from the rap line: UGH and Ddaeng live. They are so good.

Suga was talking about the underground rappers who talked a LOT of shit about him (and rm) for going in the idol kpop industry. The one who openly and publicly disrespected him and RM while they were still rookies was the underground rapper B-free (he even called them girls for wearing makeup on stage, said they were weak for leaving the underground hip hop scene, etc etc)

The rap songs are more towards the underground rappers that criticized mainly RM and Suga who came from underground rap and were now Idols. You might want to check out "A Guide to BTS Members: The Bangtan 7" by Taylor. It's a real good introduction to the BTS members and it also touches on this situation.

It's a medley because this was the time they release Cypher Pt. 4. Cypher parts 1 - 3 were released in their previous album so they performed Cypher pt. 4 in full and the other parts were performed one of each member.

💜 TODO LO QUE SALE DE LA BOCA DE SUGA , SON DULCES , PARA MIS OIDOS 😎

LA LINEA DE RAP 😎 DE BTS SON LOS 👑 👑 👑 , NO EXISTIRÁ NADIE POR ENCIMA DE ELLOS ! !

BTS were disrespected by underground khiphop artists in 2014 a few months after their debut in 2013. They were dragged also by the kpop stans on the internet. They talk about all that in their memoire beyond the story.

Guys please watch BTS rapline in Outro: Tear (in Wembley Satdium)....is awesome!

They aren’t referring to any other kpop groups or even specific ppl, they’re talking about the older underground rappers in the hip hop scene as a whole that used to look down on them.

Bae= is sunbae/sunbaenim.. a term for artists who have been in the industry earlier. Their seniors who looked down on them, criticized them and thought they will never amount to anything.

BTS never names the people they are dragging no matter how much they get out by name. If the haters hope to create a feud that will bring them attention, they won't get it. BTS won't let them use their hard-earned fame to give the trash talkers free PR. If they want to get famous they'll have to earn on their own. As Suga pointed out: you know my name but I don't know yours.

Guys before making theories about who they are talking about just read all the lyrics and you will understand remember those hip hop artists that disrespected bts when they were rookies and called them girls for wearing makeup and told them they can't call themselves hiphop artists when they debuted as kpop group and stuff like this those are tge people bts are dissing they hot no beef with kpop groups ( btw they do but behinds the scenes we don't know specifically but bts said other groups used to disrespect them and look down on them because they weren't from big company and weren't competing with other groups when they were starting)

They are not talking about old bands, it’s in response to their underground peers who bash or criticize them for being in BTS. Those underground rappers are older than they are, that’s why the reference to dinosaurs or those guys being older.

Hello, I really like your comments, I recommend watching the live performances of the mama or mma, the energy they give is another level, I hope the next time, thank you 💜💜💜💜

I Love cyphers ❤❤ THE BEST RAP LINE 🔥🔥🔥💜💜💜

BTS Cyphers are great! I love #3 and #4 the most! 😊😊😊 Next you cam check "Ddaeng" and "Ugh!" You'll love those from the Rap Line!!! Thank youuuuuu 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜

BTS has so many haters we can’t even list everyone. But a big portion and the ones that hit them hard was the underground rappers that used to be their “friends”. We’re learning more and more about all their hate and mistreatment in their new book. BUT Suga did say that his diss tracks aren’t targeted at anyone, but if you take offence to it, then maybe it’s for you 🤭 I am a 90s hip hop girl and I haven’t been listening to new school rap. Like u said, it’s all about violence, money, and women. Boring…. And even though I don’t understand Korean, I really appreciate that I can hear every syllable in BTSs raps. Whereas I’m fluent in english, but can’t hear what these American rappers are rapping. Or even saying most of the time In cypher 4, it’s still a diss track, but the message is “hey haters, get a life, do something, go love yourself”. I think that’s a very positive spin to talking shit and I dig it. You are right, their IQ is much higher For recommendations: Ugh - watch dkdk explanation vid too Ddaeng - dkdk explanation vid is a must as there’s too much word play that people will miss out Rm - joke Jhope - lollipalooza. He was such a rock star!! 🔥🔥 Suga - his recent concert. Also 🔥🔥 I don’t usually like the sweet stuff either. I do listen to BTSs sweet stuff now and love it tho because each song was written at a time in their personal lives and sends a message. Once I started taking them seriously, I learned about their journey and those sweet songs now hit differently because u know why they wrote it. It’s not some lovey dovey song about some ambiguous highschool crush. Also, many times it’s not even a love song. It’s a song with deeper meaning disguised as a love song

I recommend watching the song "Sambakja" by I.M and Joohoney from Monsta X. Amazing rap!

Cypher 3 is my most fave. Even just the intro makes my heart skip whenever I hear it.

rm suga jhope wrote cypher 1,2,3,4 fot their haters who looked down on them and insult them.. spicifically to this 1 person name bfree

The book behind the Story explains, their diet, schedule and who they "battle" thoughthe raps. From Suga Show from this year we did learn they got through intensive gym athletic training with singing in the same time ...

Jungkooks song seven is out now holy crap its freaking amazing his voice is pure bliss

I will just say a little but RM and Suga got their start at the young age of 13 in underground hip hop. When they made the decision to join an idol group they were heavily hated on by the hip hop community so this is addressing all the hate they have received over the years. They were climbing high in the community and the hate was mostly from their peers and friends they had worked with. It’s heartbreaking but they got theirs in the end. In fact one of their biggest haters is in jail for assault on a fellow artist. 💜

Songs "Ugh" and "tear" are so good The lyrics in tear are about them almost disbanding if you check out the song be sure to remeber💜

Thanks for reaction💜💜 All members of BTS are fans of Big bang. They have said Big bang is their role model until now.

The hate Suga and RM received is well documented. BTS in general received so much hate especially dethroning groups from the bigger kpop companies., their fandoms went viral. However, they underestimated BTS true talent and the power of ARMY. I've followed BTS for two years now, and just love these guys. I love their art, creativity, message(s), and their personalities. They deserve their legendary status.

Gracias por su reacción. Quizás ahora entiendan un poco más porque siempre decimos que BTS abarca muchos géneros musicales. Sobre la rap line alguna vez leí algo que me pareció divertido y le encontré mucho sentido también, era algo así como que en sus solos J Hope te avisa que te mandarán a la mierda, SUGA te manda a la mierda y RM te explica porqué te mandaron a la mierda 🤣 Saludos a ambos.

Hmm I want to say it all and for once BTS dosen't have problem with Big Bang, actually BTS was fan of them, always and now have a good realationship. And they didn't hide they were fans they shared their music and sang covers of Big Bang songs. so yeah I don't know from were it come, hate or something, like yeah Big bang was biggest boy group from second generation, and still is big group, but it wasen't ever problem in any way for BTS, or Big Bang had any problem with BTS getting bigger, all groups did theirs thing. What you talk about is "fans wars" it is actually delulu fans that fight over groups even when groups don't have problems with each other really. This is going a lot around. There were really few situations that there was some beef directly from bands. But BTS never responded directly (in name) to hate. BTS had problems with rappers from underground sceane, hate came from "hip hop lovers" that hated that BTS was mainstream, and how they looked, then media and industry hated them bc they were like in america you will call it "independent artists" and kpop as industry is simply corp, influence, reputation and money. And they don't come out from any of this things, but did very good and with time great. So if you go from beginning of their carrier then you will have more hard songs, but generalny on every album you have different set of songs, hard songs, sweet songs, dance, ballad, chill, rap, fun songs, very heavy in topic and very light but still important. This is why they have so many fans bc they have something you can find for yourself on every album and even when you are into their rap and heavy side with time you get into theirs softer side bc simply you want to know their music better, bc you liked them as people, hmm. Also soft songs or sounding sweeter ofter are quiet sad and here comes understanding of song and why it is like it, bc there is a lot bittersweet songs in their catalog. Hmm I would say maybe you should watch their first song that come out, their introduction to world, "No more dream" from 2013, you will see how they started. Who people hated. I think a watched all your BTS reactions or most and except Dynamite ( that was pick up song in pandemic) I didn't see you watch sweet song from them so, were this last part discusion comes from. (?!) Like Agust D stuff, were it is soft and sweet? Outro Tear, Fire, Run BTS, Mic drop is any of this song sweet and love song, etc. I don't want to be rude or something but it simply was weired for me, what you said at the end. You should think about what you said and look up what songs you listen to bc either you said things without thought or you projecting opinion that BTS is sweet pop band from somewere else. Not to say words like "I'm a guy so sweet songs are not for me, bc I'm I guy I don't need love songs" really? So guys can't like sweet, lovely songs bc they are guys. I think you should watch last few minutes on this video and think what you said. But hmm if it is really how you see world and music, it is your would and your music, so I guess ok. Maybe I missunderstand you guys. Like I said this last part was simply very odd. Not to say ccalling love songs crap. It is ok if it isn't your taste but it dosen't mean it is bad music. I only say it bc from what I seen you didn't even listen to their most popish songs. And songs people recommended you so far had more rap and heavier beat or instruments or were more energetic. And they don't really have that much love songs, most love songs or songs that sounds like love songs are for fans or themself or world. This is also why their are this big bc fans feel loved and seen, bc there is so many songs for them.

I subd right away 😅 you guys are great BTS Cyphers are in a way quite personal to the boys. They don't talk back to haters in any interview they put it all here.

When RM’s saying ‘bae’ it’s short for seonbaenim which is used as an honorific to someone who’s in a senior position to yourself. The fact that he’s shortened it to bae is another insult. The cyphers were aimed mainly at people in the underground scene who were slating them saying that they’ve sold out and they’re not proper rappers and to others in general who were looking down on them. The only obvious call out was aimed towards an American\Korean rapper called Bfree who was from Hawaii. He told them during a radio interview that they were women for wearing makeup and weren’t proper rappers. ✌️💜

It's all about the haters you're right Jeremy

4:56 Suga was referencing particular rapper, but about recycling vars he meant that rappers who shit on them don't have originalilty and use same flows and bars and mumble rap

Here a new subscription. Big hug from Spain 💜. More BTS please

Yeay finally ❤❤🥰🥰🔥🔥🙏🙏

Here some songs to BTS rap: Ddaeng ( my favorite song) Hip Hop Lover Ugh! Outro: Tear

To me, BTS music is defined by their company and kpop guidelines. However, their solo work and/or Rap work gives them more freedom to express themselves as artists and their personal experiences they received, especially from those that they once considered friends. in the Korean underground.

"I'm a dude, nothing sweet in my life" What a sad life. You most likely will enjoy Ugh+Cypher pt.3 from Busan concert. Find one with subs

Only their "recent" songs are happy pop. They started out as a hiphop group

Thanks for the reaction , see more vocal line please, thanks

I'm thinking you may love the Cyphers parts 1 to 4 with the colored coded lyrics in English.

13:18 "bae" is lowkey sarcasm address to hates also, in korean "sunbae" - mean older colleague, "hubae" yonger colleague, so "bae" is part of those words socthey address other rappers who are older or even younger (though probably more to older ones) and shit on them and say they are real hip hop when they only use recylcled bars and rhymes and copy others but still shit on bts. So bts here in this cypher rise above them and say: we don't even going to waste our "dislike" on you, we love ourselves and you should too))

Random comment... is so strange see someone WITH A FATHER, A DAD! AND WITH A HEALTHY AND CARING RELATIONSHIP WITH THIS DAD (i always think about this watching the videos, good jealousy). Now you gonna say that he also have a mom, and that his parents living together and happy?!

Many underground rappers like bfree

Some suggestions I have are Ma city Dionysus Go go Baepsae Am I wrong Born singer (their own version of J cole’s born sinner) Hiphop lover

If you remember in the GUIDE TO BTS, THE BANGTAN 7 where RM and SUGA were at the radio station and the older rappers were putting them down for leaving the underground rap scene to become idols and were slagging them off because BTS were wearing makeup when the go on stage, it's all those a-holes who looked down on them. BTS like BIGBANG. JIMIN done a collab with one of the members and you can watch on youtube BTS reacting to BIGBANG.

The other day you only listened to jhope's part on cypher pt.1 .. huhu you have to listen to the full song.. choose the color coded lyrics version please..

You should listen to chyper 1 2 3 and 4 one by one

No, they are not talking about Big Bang. They look up to Big Bang. They are talking about the other rappers who hate on them, especially a rapper name B-Free who disrespected RM and Suga.

jungkook high notes and falsettos please

Cyphers were not about bigbang. They're about the discrimination & judgment they received from d undergroup & k-hiphop community. But bts had a fair share of judgment & discrimination & sabotage from d actual k-pop industry as well. When u said the cypher4 was abt a toxic relationship. No. It's still about these haters hatinf on bts, degrading them but hey bts love themselves, haters dont. That no matter great of hate they get, they never cared bec they're contented, happy & proud of themselves. That's d idea. They only have few of these type of songs compared to their full discography. But when they release one, they mean jt. It's not a nonsense hate/hard rap. It came from something.

jump bts performance stage mix please

Pls react to their medley live performance too...

HUH live performance i recommend to check

B Free is the underground rapper a-hole that dissed them the most when they first debuted. EXO is the group that displayed the most jealousy because in their minds they were on top at the time BTS blew up, and they just couldn’t stand it. There were so many more haters, but it’s mostly the fans of those other groups that campaigned to bring BTS down. There were many joining that hate train. And of course, the “Big 3” were a thorn in BTS’s side. Using their money and influence to block everything Bangtan did.

BTS in their early years were ridiculed & taken for granted. You saw a snippet of the ridicule they experienced in one talk show in Taylor's guide where the underground rappers in the industry were making fun of them. RM and Suga retaliated through their diss tracks in their rap songs where they are the GOATS.

Start with the harder songs first but hold off on yiur decision to close the door on the rest of their discography. I have seen a lot of hardcore rap and metalheads insist at the beginning of their BTS journey that they will only listen to the harder stuff and 90% of them get through those songs and want more so they start reacting to the more vocal line songs and are won over. Just be open to it if that day comes for you. For all of them they brought up the same point of the other content being music that men dont listen to, but they most often become converted due to the quality of the music. Granted, most of them are rappers or metsl vocalists who are passionate about lyrics. With your bsckground as a drummer the instrunentation and beat may be a driving factor. So i get it.

You might even enjoy UGH! The lyric video and explanation by Dkdktv...

I think you would really like a MV from an artirst named "Lay" the song "Lit" he is chinesse but came from a kpop group called Exo. I think you will love that one.

These cypher are directly dedicated for those hiphop artist that belittled them in their early days, and so on for the haters for all the bullshit they keep on saying.😊

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You should see the full version of each cypher (1-4)..

I recommend you react to the guide to the bts discography of the boracity magazine channel, I think it will help you a lot and it is also a very interesting video

bts just stated on their newly release book that they were mistreated back then so its maybe for those who tries to put them down and mock them before. They said that its other idols or sunbaes (idols who older to them) so so armys are speculating that its the 2nd generation idols just because they think that bts doesn't deserve to win awards that time and because they came from a poor company. I believe this cypher series are for those who hated them and doesn't believe to them from the big 3 companies. e*o, b*g b***, and su*** ju****