Buckshot Ninth Pellet Flyer Phenomenon 

These Paul Harrell action figures are getting really life like.

If I were LuckyGunner, I'd consider this as a compliment. 👍

I want a T-shirt that says "You be the judge".

My takeaway, avoid “Suprema Premium Buckshot”.

If there was a rap album of just Paul naming ammo types I would bump that so hard.

"Could that flyer hit an innocent bystander?" Without several meat targets scattered at random locations surrounding a meat target... We will never know.

The "malfunctions" were just pure stagefright on the part of the cartridge to be evaluated by HIM!

I'm glad to see you referencing Lucky Gunner's videos Paul. Both you and Chris Baker provide some of the least biased, most objective and level headed advice on YT. Great job as always.

Saw "Paul Harrel" as soon as I sat and turned on tablet, Immediately had to watch.

In April of 2012 (I still have the emails with Federal) I bought a case of Federal Power-Shok 12 ga 2 3/4 in Buckshot F127 00. In over half of the 40 shells I fired, 2 pellets stayed in the bottom of the wad surrounded by white buffer material and made it about 40-50 yards remaining lodged in the wad. I contacted Federal and they had me send them some of the shells and they ran tests and found the exact same thing. They had UPS pick up the rest of the ammo and sent me another case. Interesting to see this problem has not gone away.

The one thumbs down was from suprema ammunition. 😁

. And that's why I'm sticking to my... Federal Law Enforcement 12 gauge 2 3/4" 8 pellet 00 Buck with Flight Control wad .

Ah, few things make me laugh, but when Paul described the suprema as 'premium...' the look on his face had me in stitches.

Years of watching Paul has taught me at least one thing: Remington G&W Box and Winchester White Box ammo is really reliable! And I'm glad I'm not the only one who's noticed the lack of quality control on Federal blue box ammo!

I'm a simple man, I see Paul, I click and like

Paul, love your presentations. Scientific method + firearms + you = entertaining and informative. I was the judge.

When Chuck Norris goes to sleep at night, he checks under his bed for Paul Harrell. Great presentation as usual!

Lucky gunner makes some very high quality videos, nice to see Paul give him a nice bump.

I honestly could have watched Paul test five more different brands in the very same fashion this evening. What outstanding entertainment while - at the same time - teaching us. Which raises the question - why is this format with his presentations at the beginning and end of each new load so pleasing? I don't even understand it. 667'th 'like' for the video.

We will have to take this to taufledermaus, and slow mode.

This is why I enjoy your channel Paul. I learned something new. Never have heard of the ninth pellet flyer before. Thank you and your crew for all your hard work.

What I found interesting is how different the pattern can be from 4 shots of the same ammunition from the same shotgun.

"Oh, that little guy? I wouldn't worry about that little guy..."

I like how you professionally worked through the malfunction and did not just edit it out. Excellent video; until now, I was not aware of this phenomenon.

When my department used 9 pellet 00 Winchester or Remington, invariably I'd have one flyer out of each round fired at 20 yards. Using Federal Reduced Recoil 8 PLT 00 with the flight control wad, I got 6" groups and no flyers. One guy in our group would get the same size group at 40 yards as I got at 20. His Mossberg 14" barrel had a modified choke as well. We were all impressed.

Hey Paul, hope all is well with you. Love the content as always. Stay safe and God bless

0:47 I do so completely enjoy it when different people concur. Excellent video as always.

that echo is incredible. If you have good ears you can probably hear the shots roaming around that valles today.

The picture quality looks nice Paul, seems like something changed. Grats on 500k!

There's more replication on Paul's channel than most University science departments :P

"Maybe" it's "hard to tell" but I really miss "being the judge".

We used to have a saying that: "There is a Lawyer attached to every bullet (or pellet)". The flyers are important.

I was trying to figure out why I like Paul so much, and I realized that he’s like one of those teachers you had in high school that were very serious and strict, but were also always the teachers that were the most fair, and willing to teach; the classes you didn’t mess around in. hahaha

In the 1980s I visited the Department of Energy nuclear security program where I was shown short barrel pump shotguns that were fitted with full chokes. This was done to provide greater hit probability at extended range. It would be interesting to run your same test loads through a modified choke and a full choke to see if the groups tighten up or if the pellets deform and spread out further. I also suggest testing reduced recoil rounds to see if they enhance pattern size.

Paul looking at super man. “They call you super man, I’m not impressed”.

I very much agree that Paul's cleaning and maintenance regimen would be very popular series. Thank you Sir for what you are doing here.

Federal is really high tech giving you in effect 7x buckshot and a slug. :D So you dont have to buy the fancy Hyper ammo for that effect.

This is a great statistical question. I am not convinced that we are seeing anything other than randomness. But an hard to convince.

the malfunctions concern me the most.

Thanks for all you do Paul. You make some great contributions to any conversation.

Im usually this early, and my wife just sighs. 😒

Paul and Lucky Gunner are 1. Verifiable 2. Falsifiable and 3. Repeatable. Gun Nut Media is 1. Intoxicatable 2. Self-delusional and 3. Laughable.

that federal buck ammo is like an athlete's protective gear, it generally keeps two pellets in the cup

Paul I know it's a little late but I just watched your rebuttal video. I DO find you long winded but NEVER boring. I enjoy every minute of you videos and appreciate your dry sense of humor.

Get notification. Check. Saved to play later playlist. Check. Grab dinner, get comfy, and watch what you call a professional. You be the judge.

Paul could you do a presentation on full chokes in shotguns and the pros/cons and different effect on various ammunitions?

Thank you for your efforts Paul. As always informative, entertaining, and educational. Don't stop what you do on YT. Its important that we are not fed fake news and take it for Gospel regarding firearm matters and your presentations keep us on the straight and narrow.

Great video Paul. Thanks for doing these

"Premium Suprema" got a decent laugh out of me.

It seems, particularly with shotguns, each individual gun/ammo selection must be matched well to achieve the best results. I know that's true with all guns, but it seems especially noticeable with shotguns. When my old agency got several Remington 870s with 14", modified choke barrels, I went out with the entire batch, shooting the issued ammo and found every single one of them shot a different pattern to different points of aim (and this would have been same lot number on the ammo as well, all from the same shipment). All did well, but some shot more consistently low or high, left or right, slightly bigger or smaller patters. Of course, I took my pick of the litter ;). The standard 20" bbl, rifle sighted 870 I had before shot pretty good with buckshot (I don't remember specifically what the pattern was but they all stayed on the silhouette even from 25 yards so long as I put any effort at all into it). But with 1 oz Federal slugs (this was before "Tactical" and "low recoil" slugs) I could make all the holes touch on the slug course which ran from 50, 40, and 25 yards. I needed to drift the rear sight a bit to bring it closer to point of aim but it was an impressive group. Again, all of them were okay, but some better than others and we couldn't really pick and choose our ammo, we got what was issued. I tried an older issued "Featherweight" Ithaca and (again, with issued ammo) the results were nothing to write home about. Ditto with the Hi-Standard shotgun we had as well. In fact, I eventually claimed that bright, shiny, nickle-plated Hi-Standard and kept it loaded with rubber buckshot and rubber ball ammo. It was so distinctive from the other guns we had. Now, all of the results improved when we got the Flite-Control wad "Tactical" buckshot. Again, though, some did better than others. My 14" modified choke barrel gun actually shot worse than some of the cylinder bore guns, though by "worse" the pattern was still ridiculously small even from way farther out than I thought buckshot would normally be used. Interestingly, I think all of our buckshot was 8 pellet.

Great presentation as always. Thank you.

*Thank you Paul for putting up a cool video....I have been waiting for one.*

Hey Paul, I recently had a scare in the night, I grabbed my M92 from my night stand and started to clear the house, after the living room I realized I had no idea how to properly clear a room by my self. Anyways I left the window open and the blinds where knocked down by the wind... But I'm now conserned I don't know the proper way to clear a room, would you mind making a video showing how you would clear a room by yourself, preferably with an auto loading hand gun, as that is what I have. Thankyou.

Paul's clothing would be perfect camo in a cartboard factory.

Great video. Thanks Paul !

Watching a Paul Harrell video and getting a new Paul Harrell video... this day just keeps getting better.

Rem. blue box did well imo, having the opposite of fliers: stickers, or "no spreaders," a good trait if centered.

Someday I’m gonna find that leisure suit video in the intro....my vote for the action doll clothing that can be interchanged! 😂👍

And I absolutely love your choice of words for explaining simple facts and just the way they are

This format is great short and you get to the point! Keep on keepin on!

One dislike in 16 minutes, I'ld call THAT one, a flyer!! And yes, THAT one has a few friends by now.

maybe it's a 1st pellet flyer and the 9th one is doing its best

Great presentation as always!

I enjoy your content! Thanks Paul

What you do is use a rifled barrel, then everything is a flier

Wow, 6 seconds ago. Very early this time.

BEEN WAITING FOR A VIDEO ALL MORNING, THANK YOU

Thanks again for teaching us something new. As always love your sense of humor.

I don't think the "9th pellet flyer" phenomena is enough a difference to matter because most human torsos are larger than most paper targets and there isnt any recorded instances of 9th pellet flyer fatalities or injuries. So is 12 gauge 9 pellet still good for home defense im going to say yes.....is it good for a burglar holding your waifu pillow hostage while you deliver a cheesy 80's one line before turning him into somebody that you used to know? I'm going to say no.

Last time I came this early my girlfriend left... lol love the videos!

One thing Paul I got to say I absolutely love your dry humor to the stupid ignorant questions or opinions people make you are a pillar of virtue

Beautifully done. Properly empirically tested. And very enjoyable.

Dang, that was a short one. I didn't even have time to finish my drink.

Makes me wonder a couple of things. Why does that one pellet tend to be a flyer? And I know this might seem odd but I wonder if one pellet would tend to be a flyer if you shot a shell of eight pellets. Just a thought.

Thanks for the info Paul. Your vids are always interesting and very informative...

Just wished to drop you a line Paul saying that this old vet appreciates the information, wit, and humor that you deliver. Good job Sir! Or as they used to say when I served, BZ (Bravo Zulu).

Uploaded 1 minute ago. 89 views, 82 "likes" 👍 Good job gents, keepit up!

When I reload buckshot, I leave the 9th pellet out. Sometimes it's hard to tell which one is #9 though. ;)

Another excellent video. I always appreciate your attention to detail and honest assessments. Please keep these coming!

Another great video! Thank you Paul.

Actually none of those impacts were "flyers" in my eyes. If you would continuously shoot the same sport you would get aperfectly round hole pretty quickly, that is because there are notz flyers, but at such a low number of impacts per shot, statisticall there will be groups and we tend to pick our groups as such that there is a flyer. That is not predictable though, as your "hit zone" always is a pretty perfect circle and all bullets will hit within that circle.

I'm sure this episode will have a lotta Buck-Shot in it... 0_o Oh dear that was simply horrible, but it had to be said. ~_^

Paul....absolutely look forward to each and every video. Your brain works like mine: meticulously analytical and thorough. Keep up the great work!

Hello Paul, FWIW, I retired from the USCG many years ago, and we shot the Rem 870 using 12 ga. 00 exclusively. I was a firearms and use of force instructor. We used various manf. ammunition, it just depended on what we were sent. Our targets were man sized silhouettes, cant recall the manf. What I do recall, distinctly, was that when using Federal ammo, we often had one flyer that either got the paper but not the silhouette or hit the cardboard, and this was very, very common. HTH!

another great video. i am always rewatching to to catch everything you was saying. and man its informative information like nothing else out there.

That was an interesting presentation! Thank you Paul.

Paul thank you for your service my son and I love your videos I have been on RU-vid for a year and a half you give the gun community a good name God bless you

I love how Paul can make a good long video about a super specific thing Keep it up!

Happy Memorial day, Paul. Thank you for your service, we appreciate everything you do.

Thank you for posting this. I saw the video you mentioned. I love your method of shooting and racking the slide as one motion.

Outstanding as always 👍🏼

As always Paul, thanks!!!

Greetings, Mr. Harrell from the lockdown state of Michigan. I am really impressed with the phenomenon of the 9th pellet flier. This presentation is why I love your channel. Simple, easy to understand, and just plain fun to learn new things. Great video, thank you very much.

Another EXCELLENT VIDEO Sir, please stay healthy and safe out there!

Love your work paul

The short version is; Buy small boxes of buckshot and find the one type your shotgun likes the best. Another great video by Paul and the crew.

Awesome to see two of my favorite channels doing videos that compliment each other

I know I'm saying this two years later but man, it makes me happy to know you watch lucky gunner. I love Chris and before your channel came into my life he was my gold standard no-nonsense scientific gun content.

Paul keep up the good work, awesome video