Buddy & his band on the Val Doonican show circa 1979 from Anty.Buddy shouts something like'Go ahead old man'to Steve Marcus as they launch into Love for Sale.The soloists are:Andy Fusco,Mike McGovern,& Steve Marcus
Buddy was about 62 yrs.old here. He was so youthful and energetic. He is a total inspiration to any drummer alive today. He never thought about getting old and that's probably why he was so great until the day he died. We miss you Buddy.
i have seen Buddy's band play this song several times here on RU-vid, and i think that this is the tightest i have heard his band perform this song to date. on another note, the Ludwig drums have a perfect sound and with the drum break towards the end, is the best i have heard this song wrapped up also. RIP Buddy and Steve.
OMG 3:43 - 3:58 Pure trumpet heaven! Never heard a trumpet passage played in such a smooth, melodic fashion with breathtaking dynamics...the look of approval coming from Buddy says it all. Thank God this was captured on film for all to enjjoy! Mike that was phenomenally inspiring, and I'm a drumme lol. Thanks, Bob Marsz
Its so nice to hear a group of musicians play with such precision. The solos were brilliant and you could tell that the performers were enjoying every moment of it. 5*
Ah well thanks AGAIN MikeBuddy for another great post. I'm sat at my desk here looking at a TDK D-C90 (audio cassette) I recorded off the TV on to, when I was fourteen, with one of those ancient piano key cassette recorders with a built-in condenser microphone. I'd been taken by my dad to see BR & his orchestra live for the first time ever (after thirteen years of my dad playing him on vinyl most days) at the Davenport Theater, in Stockport, near Manchester here in the UK, the previous year to this. For me it's just not about Buddy Rich being 'really good at drumming', that's more the Weckls / Colaiutas of the world. Buddy Rich WAS the drums as far as I was concerned, but it was always way more than that. There was the show business legacy too. The ridiculous stories about Vaudeville when he was 18 months old, the Tommy Dorsey, Frank Sinatra, Count Basie pedigree and accompanying stories / legends / urban myths. If you've ever read the harrowing Sammy Davis Jnr biography, 'YES I CAN', you'll know there was way more to Buddy Rich than just being 'a really good drummer'. Look out for it if you haven't read it, add it to your Christmas list this year. Even Miles Davis had good words to say about him. How many other drummers have you seen as guests on TV chat shows or TV shows like this one in the past - I don't know - in the many years since we lost Buddy? Anyway, that's what you got, when turfing up at the now long-since demolished theater in Stockport, on a bleak, cold North West night. Your dad chain smoking Benson & Hedges, while driving the Austin Maxi, a terrible 1970s British car, from Warrington, an equally terrible British town (with nothing going for it apart from easy access to the M6 and M56). You got a short glimpse into another world, one that seemed a long way from the harsh daily reality of life. That's why these even shorter TV appearances were like gold dust then, why I've hung on to that C-90 for 43 years. That's a long way of saying THANKS FOR POSTING!
MrDrumact - This snare here is the Ludwig SupraPhonic chrome over steel shell, the same one that Joe Morello made so popular. When Buddy was with Ludwig, he used this one and also a bronze shell snare. Contrary to what you have been told, I have never seen Buddy use a Black Beauty with his set ~
I've been listening to Buddy do this song (and many others) for years. I've seen him play it in every type of setting, etc. In spite of this, the riffs he played in this version between 5:00 and 5:30 had me jumping off of my chair and laughing. I gave up playing drums seriously many years ago after I heard this guy. Nobody has ever been able to do what he could do with a big band.. Nobody. Ever. Period.
(I don't care what decade it is, what incarnation of this band it is, I never get tired of this arrangement.) Rich, with tenor sax veteran Steve Marcus (who is brilliant, as always), knocks the socks off of a British, all-Caucasian, largely-Wasp audience, with American Music... ...which means directly (Big Band Swing and Jazz), and indirectly (American Musical Theater/Cole Porter)... African-American Music. And all of this, just about a year before he handed me my diploma, upon my graduation from the World's Most Famous Music School, in Boston.
My drum teacher had a set of Fibes which i used to play on and they sounded great.He was sponsered by Premier,yet he loved the sound of those Fibes Drums.
i don't believe this.Mike McGovern you are one of my fav.players on buddys band at that time.i've just got a post from Glenn Franke Tmb.who was in that band 78-81.I loved your playing on Joy Spring.I'm putting up another vid of you with buddy's band, Montreux 78 (mellow tone) buddy's reaction while you're playing that solo says it all.Thanks man
This music IS alive and well and is being played by Chad Rager. I've seen him live with his 8pc band the Chad Rager Groove and he and they smoke! Someone told me he's putting together a full big band to tour with. . . that should be AWESOME!
A bit blurry but the snare looks to me to be a Ludwig Super Sensitive which is basically a Supraphonic with extended snare wire mechanism/strainer. Saw Buddy live at least 30 times between 1972-1986. First time @ Buddy's Place in NYC with the sextet. Basie and Illinois Jacquet sat in that night. Magic. I miss Buddy.
Will do that thanks. One of my fav.Brubeck albums is we're all together again for the first time (rec.live in europe '73) with dawson extending on take five.Don't know what drums he is using but the drums & cymbols sound great.
Dawson used his Fibes set for this recording, and as far as cymbals, not sure of his crash and hats, but I know he used to use an A Zildjian Mini Cup Ride from time to time. He was a Zildjian endorser ~
Are the twelve people who thumbed down this people who got balled out on the bus on the famous BR tapes? :-o LOVE FOR SALE is my favorite BUDDY RICH arrangement. I think its because you get to hear Buddy's enormous drive even in the role of accompanist. The energy is just SO there on each and every note (not that it wasn't typical of him, but I think this arrangement is TEXT BOOK Buddy!)
One of the better versions, the tempo is a little more relaxed although not as slow as the one on Big Swing Face. Fusco, Mcgovern and Marcus all shine as well as strong ensemble playing. Wayne Pedziwater on bass, RIP great talent.
+Andrew Chaplowit ::: On the "Big Swing Face" album, Buddy got the tempo of LOVE FOR SALE exactly right, but here it feels too rushed and too much like a f**king express train... Sorry, but that's just my honest opinion, buddy.
+tunefultony johnson Based on most, if not all, of the RU-vid videos of Buddy playing this tune, including the half dozen times I saw him perform LFS live during the late 60's, 70's, and 80's, the tempo on the album was the slowest I've ever heard.
@@tunefultonyjohnson4100 ; I don't mind this tempo nearly as much as the way he played "Machine" live many times. I just love the studio recorded tempo of "Machine" from the album "The New One" (1967).
@@erzug ; I feel the tune works best at uptempo stripper rhythm, while at the same time realizing you can get away with a higher speed if performed as an instrumental. The last live Harry James version I watched on RU-vid is almost unrecognizable to me as "Love For Sale" although the tempo is, in my mind, what the tune calls for, if done instrumentally.
Good eye there, MB1. Yep, that photo on the album cover, originally titled "Rich in London", shows B with his Fibes chrome over fiberglass snare. Of course, since B had one, I had to get one, and I did, and I must say it was a pretty nice snare, IF you tuned it right. On that album, B's sounds great, but, on the "At the Top" video, it could sound better. Maybe in the recording, who knows. Buddy was seldom happy with his snare drums ~
Nice playing, Mike. I was only 13 when this was recorded, but I remember your name on some studio album from Walter Murphy(?) Does that mean anything? Is that Coassin on lead?
One of my favorite arrangements. I heard it live in NYC. Buddy "drives" the band in this song like Michael Schumacher drives a Formula one race car. They did this arrangement on "Burning for Buddy" but can't approach the way he does it. Does anyone remember the name of the lead sax player? He's simply great. Thanks, Rob
You put your finger on it when you said "music industry". Because that's what it is, an industry. They push and push and drown us in the rubbish that is popular. Buddy does what seems humanly impossible, but it takes a lot of drumming time before you can appreciate that, and that's the problem with any instrument or art form. I have this clip recorded from the TV on a reel audio tape around 1970. Great to see it again on video after 35+ years.STILL can't get that single stroke at the end though!
I agree,The BBC guys knew what thay were doing when it came to sound & usually got it right,whereas the us broadcasts (carson)the sound does'nt come across as good IMO,also buddy sometimes did'nt use his own kit.Don't tell me Steve Marcus has left us?He was'nt that old was he?
happy birthday first of all, and that¨s when destiny calls no casualty... for some reason, that¨s whay we all knows him that¨s his legacy, and we keeping him alive!! excuse for my english dudes!!! to much emotions at one time!!!
Trumpet solo was a little outta context for my own taste, but after all, mcgovern seemed like he was holding back, nice chops my friend. And tell whoever was playing lead he shouldn't have been there.
With talent (genius) that amazing I doubt that Rich was a real life a**hole. Only stupid people are a**holes & Rich was not stupid. He was a colossus & he knew it & so he was (sometimes) arrogant & cocky. So what? If he really was a bad person he (like most bad people) would hide it & 'pretend' he was good just like every body else did (& does). Rich didn't care what the average person thought (of him) because he was not & never wanted to be 'average'. He cared about his peers & in turn he was respected & admired by his peers. As a band leader of young musicians he practiced 'tough love' & thus he helped them by criticizing them when they did not play well. Rich, like all great artists only cared about & answered to a higher calling - his art - perfection - artistry. Cocky & arrogant he was (at times) but never a real life a''hole. I don't think Rich was an exception to John Keat's premise about 'the impossibility of being a good poet and not be good' (i.e. not be a good person).
adeduction Your opening statement, that only stupid people are a**holes, is horribly inaccurate. Many intelligent people over the years have been utter a**holes, including Richard Nixon, who basically ended China's declaration of isolationism and opened them to the world. Nixon was no idiot, but he spied on his enemies and used underhanded tactics to stay in power. That's one definition of an a**hole. He was an amazing musician, no doubt, but let's not forget that he didn't write all of his songs, and that he had a horribly short temper. He may have meant well, to be fair, but the Musiker tapes made during tour show that he had a horrible temper and that working with him was difficult, to say the least. I'm not insulting the music, but it's true that he acted like, for the most part, a total jerk.
adeduction Buddy had zero tolerance for ignorance especially with the stuff he rehearsed with the band! He expected everyone in the the band to put forth full effort and plus like he did. NO EXCEPTIONS! The music was very important sound wise to him.
Joe Michalski Why do you think Nixon was intelligent? You're confusing cunning and artifice with intelligence. Politicians are similar to most people, i.e., are fakes and phonies - dissemblers - pretend to be something they really are not - ie competent. In my opinion a fake and phoney is also stupid. But being stupid doesn't mean you can't become a billionaire and be elected President of the U.S. Didn't JC on the cross say:'Forgive them father, for they know not what they do." I.e., 'Forgive them for being stupid.' Nixon was too dishonest and too phoney to be a great artist like Rich and Rich was too honest - too himself - and not mediocre enough to be a politician. Rich knew that if he focused on his art and the perfection of his music i.e., his band - he couldn't but help the young musicians in his band more than he hurt their feelings. What's wrong with someone trying to help become a better person or musician? The truth makes us more aware. this is why 'The truth hurts but is also cures.' Chinese proverb. That's why Rich was such a colossus.
+Joe Michalski :: "He didn't write all of his songs...." ?? ---"Buddy Rich didn't write ANY of his tunes, they were all arranged especially for him and his Big Band from tunes written either as standards, or written as original music from the pens of arranger/composers such as Bob Florence, Don Mintzer, or Bill Holman.
Maybe it's the way they were recorded, but this isn't one of Buddy's best bands. Kinda sounds like they were just going through the motions. Buddy sounds incredible as always though.
