Budget Sub Homage Championship FINALS: Invicta Pro Diver vs Pagani Design PD-1639 - Perth WAtch

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It's Invicta vs Pagani Design in the Perth WAtch Budget Submariner Homage Championship finals! Who will take it all??
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@BetamaxBabe 4 года назад

I've had Invictas before, and they're OK, but I'd rather have sapphire crystal, a ceramic bezel, and a better bracelet in the Pagani. Other then minor quality control issues, the Pagani's only drawback is it's size. I've said before that I'd get one right now if it were 40 mm.

@PerthWAtch 4 года назад

Thanks Babe... I think they do in fact now make them in 40mm. Or at least some viewers have provided links on the review video :)

@ohhenry2 4 года назад

Perth WAtch Ivan, can you provide one of those links? I scanned the comments in your Pagani review video, but did not come across the link that you mentioned. It'd be huge plus if the Pagani were indeed offered in 40mm.

@PerthWAtch 4 года назад

@@ohhenry2 Sure, try this one: www.aliexpress.com/item/4000282507866.html

@deadeyedsam850 4 года назад

@@PerthWAtch That Graduated blue dial looks great with the black bezel.i was not looking for another watch but i may have to get one of those.

@alexl2129 4 года назад

@@PerthWAtch wow the blue dial black bezel looks quite good actually

@TedCornish 4 года назад

This was a very close call ivan and being honest I couldn't choose between them as both are fantastic value for money and really can't be beaten. Under the £100 price point both are winners

@PerthWAtch 4 года назад

Thanks Ted - it was a fun comparison to do :)

@PerthWAtch 3 года назад

Wow these spruiking posts are getting very coordinated!

@John..18 4 года назад

Thanks for the ultimate high value comparison series,, really well done,, I love that my 29178 Invicta, runs at around +2 seconds a day,, and that it's so comfortable on its jubilee bracelet,, Thanks again, and keep up the good work,,,

@PerthWAtch 4 года назад

Most welcome John - glad you enjoyed it. Now that is a very well regulated Invicta you have there! :)

@mrlume9475 3 года назад

Really enjoyed this comparison comp. Gutted my favourite invicta was beaten, however understandable due to ceramic insert and saphire glass. Would love to see a mid teir comparison along the same lines.

@PerthWAtch 3 года назад

Thanks for that. What models would you choose for a mid tier compare?

@sublyme2157 4 года назад

I love that the Invicta is pretty much considered a legit watch these days :)

@PerthWAtch 4 года назад

As I understand it the patent on the Submariner design expired quite a while ago... so it's legit in the legal sense. But that isn't enough to gain cred among many detractors - hence one of the reasons behind the popular past time of Invicta bashing :)

@saintdave1877 4 года назад

Great comparison , Ivan. They are both great watches , the Pagani really is a great buy considering the spec sheet. I've got both and feel the Invicta is a good starting point for any new watch enthusiast , the Pagani us just a little step up in terms of finish and bracelet.

@PerthWAtch 4 года назад

Thanks for that David - I think you've summarized it fairly well :)

@chriswintersgill1072 4 года назад

I find the sun burst on the PD is too much in the sun or outdoors. I also like the deeper set dial of the Invicta. Close but my personal choice is the Invicta.

@PerthWAtch 4 года назад

Thanks for the comment - I think that might be the first time anyone’s said that a sunburst is too much sunburst :)

@drwindsurf 4 года назад

It has been fun watching this series - Thank you :)

@PerthWAtch 4 года назад

Most welcome - glad you enjoyed it :)

@cbody70 4 года назад

Thank you for doing this championship. It was informative. A surprising result for a sub dive watch competition where a 100 meter watch with oversized dial beats a 200 meter watch with the correct size dial.

@PerthWAtch 4 года назад

Most welcome. 100m vs 200m is a little surprising, but I would ask who’s to say what is the “.correct” size? Fact is that people in many countries are getting larger/fatter, so 42 could be the new 40 ;)

@JohnnyBravo-yt1sj 4 года назад

I have an Invicta pro diver 40mm, and an Invicta grand diver 47mm. I had my 47mm for a couple of years before I got the 40mm. I am used to wearing the 47mm on what I consider a small wrist and it feels and looks fine for an attention grabber. After wearing my new 40mm for a couple of weeks I felt the watch looked so much more tiny, so I am gona order a Pagani 43mm, this could be the sweet spot for sport homages. I do lean more toward huge shiny watches. They look stunning.

@gregdiamond2018 3 года назад

This was a very good and fair comparison and complete review. See I do enjoy most of your videos. Lol Cheers 🍻

@PerthWAtch 3 года назад

Thanks - glad you enjoyed the video :)

@Mannywood79 2 года назад

Thank you for your detailed description and comparison... I love Invicta watches but I habe been looking at pagani watches. Might have to get one to see the difference...

@PerthWAtch 2 года назад

Most welcome - all the best!

@TheSpritz0 4 года назад

VERY close competition, both are pretty damn good!!!

@PerthWAtch 4 года назад

Too right, it was a close one and fun to do!

@VinceRegan 4 года назад

This is the proper takeaway.

@watchdogpodcast239 4 года назад

Fun series of videos. I owned the Loreo Hulk and Invicta. I actually thought the Loreo was better overall by a smidge. Well done!!

@PerthWAtch 4 года назад

Thanks for that - glad to hear that you have enjoyed these videos :)

@bigchief2331 4 года назад

Had Invicta before and can't tell you how many people commented on it and mistook it for Rolex. It is a good watch but prices are a bit high on Amazon right now. After a few years mine fell apart so not great durability. The Pagani looks good but I prefer the dial/text on the Invicta. But I do agree probably go with Pagani now, better overall value for what you get.

@PerthWAtch 4 года назад

Thanks for sharing that - I'm curious, can I ask which parts of the Invicta failed? Was it the movement?

@bigchief2331 4 года назад

@@PerthWAtch Yes movement stopped and also the crown fell out

@PerthWAtch 4 года назад

Oh dear me...

@powerplay4real174 3 года назад

I gotta get a Tevise , mostly because of the cheap price and because of that it seem as though it will make a fairly good Beater Watch , I own a INVICTA and got a Pagani Design on the way ,I'm very pleased with my INVICTA 30093 with Mayota Japanese Movement.

@PerthWAtch 3 года назад

Nice one, thanks for sharing :)

@nickgosselin69 4 года назад

Great Finale Video😀 thanks, Sooo Happy Pagani won, as I've just ordered one, thanks for your Videos, All the best👍

@PerthWAtch 4 года назад

Awesome! Thank you - glad this was helpful :)

@rimas.kalpokas 4 года назад

I really feel that this Pagani is more similar to the Sea-Dweller due to its size of 43mm, and there is no 43mm Sub as far as I'm aware of so I would really like to see a comparison between this Pagani and Sea-Dweller :) And this championship, I think, is bound to have its second season with the likes of Parnis, Bliger and San Martin as some of the presumably strong contestants :) There is also a Guanqin Submariner now with some funny text on it so it could also be considered as a future contestant :)

@PerthWAtch 4 года назад

Thanks for the thoughts... the Pagani is just an upsize sub with its 42mm diameter and 21mm lugs. The thickness is still 13mm... overall closer to a Sub than Sea Dweller. Some good ideas there for a second season - lets see how I go! :)

@edgarteoxon6839 4 года назад

A very tight score between the two watches.... Love it. I ended having both watches and I am really happy with them.... Thanks a lot.... Keep up the good work

@PerthWAtch 4 года назад

Thanks man - I would happily keep both too!

@mikearkous8379 3 года назад

Is there a difference in size by the pagani? I have the pro diver and while I don’t mind the 43 mm size. How much of a difference is it?

@PerthWAtch 3 года назад

Yes there is a difference - check out the video where I compare them side by side.

@user-yb9rv7jb6n 3 года назад

Between Pagani and Loreo which design (color or reflection..etc) is better??

@PerthWAtch 3 года назад

Check out my Pagani vs Loreo video :)

@alexsandovallapostol9998 4 года назад

Good job mate ! You are very balanced and thorough

@PerthWAtch 4 года назад

Thank you - much appreciated!

@jackjosefschmidli1382 4 года назад

Very interesting comparison! ThankU!

@PerthWAtch 4 года назад

Most welcome :)

@ExAnimoPortugal 3 года назад

I'm waiting for my invicta to arrive, but I could have considered the Pagani if it came in 40mm. I'm also curious to know if it actually has a genuine Seiko NH35. Pagani has a cool name as well. Many people will think it's related to the italian supercar. Invicta is cool as well however, as it is the alternative name for the city I live in.

@PerthWAtch 3 года назад

Nice - thanks for sharing the thoughts! Pagani does make a 40mm version now, although may not be in exact same colour varieties.

@artofgarduno 2 года назад

yeah I thought thhat is was from the same italian car brand for months lol it made me want the watch even more lol. I finaLLY BOUGHT one now im waiting for it and cant wait to show it off. Yeah pAGANI baybee im balling hardcore

@PerthWAtch 2 года назад

You mean it’s not from the car brand?? Darn it!!

@artofgarduno 2 года назад

@@PerthWAtch if it was it would be costing several thousand lol

@PerthWAtch 2 года назад

Man here I thought I was onto some European magic!

@gnomilius 4 года назад

Could you possibly do a comparison of the Invicta (r Loreo) and a Casio Duro??

@PerthWAtch 4 года назад

Em, well firstly I don’t have a Duro anymore, and secondly it’s auto vs quartz which generally doesn’t go down well.

@monyraingseysthong2687 4 года назад

Really well done review... both are good watches... glade i pock up my pagani 1639

@PerthWAtch 4 года назад

Thanks - glad you enjoyed it :)

@TheGoodwolfe 4 года назад

Hi Ivan, as always, thanks for a very thorough & fair comparison! I own both watches & can see where you're coming from here. However, as I mentioned in a previous comment, for those who may actually dive with the watch, then the 200m WR Invicta diver is really the only choice, but if you never go deeper than the water's surface, then a dive style 100m WR Pagani will do just fine.

@PerthWAtch 4 года назад

Thanks for that - again, fair thoughts there!

@TheGoodwolfe 4 года назад

@@PerthWAtch - Ivan, tbh though, I fully understand that 95% of the people that would buy either of these, don't dive, or wouldn't dive with a sub-$100 watch anyway. Personally, I'd use a Dive Computer over any watch. But as casual wear beaters, these are both good & the Pagani wins the specs battle! Thanks!

@karlsenula9495 4 года назад

If you really want a 200m diver you could also get a Casio Duro for under $50.

@ElCanalDelPadrino 4 года назад

I enjoyed this championship so much and I wanted Pagani to be the winner, so I'm so happy with the results

@PerthWAtch 4 года назад

Thanks for that - glad you enjoyed the videos! :)

@snowmayne6283 4 года назад

I've been debating on one of these watches...something still keeps pulling me towards the Loreo though...perhaps better lumes plus, the glossy bezel plus the diving capability. Is the Pagani really safe for swimming?

@PerthWAtch 4 года назад

I think the jury is still out on Pagani... but would be worth a search on WUS forums to see if there is any logged experience as yet.

@snowmayne6283 4 года назад

@@PerthWAtch I would go Invicta because I can find them the cheapest for the reliable homages, but there's something about their design that just draws me from liking them. The Pagani does get my attention a little more, plus that bigger face I tend to like...is the Pagani a screw down crown though?

@PerthWAtch 4 года назад

Yes this does have a screw down crown

@snowmayne6283 4 года назад

@@PerthWAtch I did order the Pagani Design...hopefully, I'll get in about another week.

@andrewd7586 4 года назад

Jory great review. You’re just being honest. I thought you were more than fair given the difference in quality. I own Omega’s, Breitling, Tudor, Tissot, Casio AND SEVERAL INVICTA’S!!! Including this pro diver. I love em all! The best part is I get to just wear how I feel. Is there a bad watch out there? I honestly don’t think so. Right now I’m wearing a tool Casio worth $35 AUD. I’m not hung up on labels. I appreciate all & sundry because WE ALL love horology. Tomorrow though I’m throwing on my Invicta Pro Diver! And like you I love Rolex vintage. Hence one is on my radar.😉Cheers from Down Under 👍🏼🍻

@PerthWAtch 4 года назад

Cheers for that Andrew - glad you enjoyed the video, and thank you for the support :)

@coyhutt8022 4 года назад

Isn't Jory the Time Teller?

@tommycrue71 4 года назад

IV been thinking of getting the Pagani for awhile .... Do you think it's really water resistant? Can you actually swim with it ?

@PerthWAtch 4 года назад

Yes, I think you can swim with it - I've done so, it's still fine.

@brucetaylor8973 6 месяцев назад

Yes, I have the Pagani Design PD-1639, same as in this Video, great budget watch. I have taken showers, baths, been in hot tubs and pools, washed the truck etc., never an issue. I have not done any scuba diving, but would snorkel with out a worry. I have also had an Invicta 1002, also a pretty decent watch, I beat the hell out of mine for over a decade and it still works. The Invicta had a misaligned bezel and was 68 seconds a day slow out of the box, I replaced it with the Pagani, it runs a few seconds fast a day and just feels like it’s a much better build, solid watch.

@PerthWAtch 5 месяцев назад

Pagani rocks!!

@briancolyer8483 4 года назад

Out of those two models, I agree, I'd take the Pagani over the Invicta....Invicta is an odd ball, many people hate for no other reason than they want to be on the band wagon....although I've never owned an Invicta, I have had my hands on the sub, very nice watch, looked and felt great, perhaps I'll pick one up in time....that said there catalogue is a bit of a visual horror show, but they sell and obviously very well....I've never known anyone that has tried to use either brands warranty but suspect invicta would do the honour's where as Pagani I'm not convinced....at these prices you don't mind taking a risk....enjoying your content brother, keep them coming....⌚🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿⌚🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

@PerthWAtch 4 года назад

Thanks for that Brian... I do think Invicta's range is overly bloated, but as you say, they obviously have a considerable degree of success nonetheless. Invicta have international presence, so I reckon their warranty will work as advertised... whereas these Chinese warranty cards with their claims, I wouldn't bet on them!

@loneoak5066 3 года назад

Does the gold wear out on these? And what do you do about it, if it wears out?

@PerthWAtch 3 года назад

Yes they can wear out but not easily in my experience. At these prices, you probably wouldn’t do anything about it.

@scottrogers9017 2 года назад

I agree 100%, I have two of each brand, and I believe your presentation was informative and entertaining. Thank you

@PerthWAtch 2 года назад

Great to hear - thanks! :)

@thehypercovery 4 года назад

pagani is more of a sea dweller homage, but still an amazing watch for the price

@PerthWAtch 4 года назад

What do you think of the result?

@thehypercovery 4 года назад

@@PerthWAtch I think you got your scores bang on mate, no surprise the Pagani won though. Great series 👍

@the.alexkim 3 года назад

I'm rlly debating, the only drawback I have is I heard there are issues with the bracelet and quality control

@PerthWAtch 3 года назад

Invicta?

@thepalm2791 4 года назад

Ivan, what do you think about the Pagani design date just homage?

@PerthWAtch 4 года назад

Looks good enough and I anticipate it will be executed similarly, but without having it in hand it’s not possible to say more.

@mrjasonharter Год назад

Thanks! I've been debating between the two

@PerthWAtch Год назад

Pagani then?

@DeeKay84 4 года назад

Hi, great vid, how big is the pagani strap, I have an 8.5inch wrist, would it fit me?

@PerthWAtch 4 года назад

I think I took out 3 or 4 links... my wrist is 17cm so it will be marginal for you.

@DeeKay84 4 года назад

@@PerthWAtch thanks, i have enough watches i will probably give it a watch wrist default. my fault for being fat!

@saintdave1877 4 года назад

@@DeeKay84 I've got 7¾ and took a link out , should be good if you can work the bloody microadjusts

@willisonrodriguess 3 года назад

Parabéns pelo vídeo! Boa a comparação!!

@PerthWAtch 3 года назад

What?

@WILLISONPC 3 года назад

@@PerthWAtch Congratulations on the video! Good comparison!

@PerthWAtch 3 года назад

Thank you :)

@forthefunofit5487 4 месяца назад

Good job. I think its hard to choose between these two. Both nice and great value!

@PerthWAtch 4 месяца назад

Thank you :)

@RenoLaringo 3 года назад

I pulled the trigger on the 40mm hulk Pagani 1661. I really find the gold on the Invicta looking very blingbling.

@PerthWAtch 3 года назад

Yeah it does look a bit bling - there are plain steel options

@GrOuNdZeRo7777 2 года назад

I have an Invicta and I'm very happy with this comparison, I like the high water resistance.

@PerthWAtch 2 года назад

Fascinating

@jonskitch8082 Год назад

Glad I bought Pagani - No1

@UGA.D 4 года назад

Great summary! Thanks for making this.

@PerthWAtch 4 года назад

Most welcome :)

@67spot 4 года назад

I have a pagani in the hulk colour and it's an awesome watch for 50pounds sterling cant be beaten looks like a way more expensive watch than it is

@PerthWAtch 4 года назад

Yep, pretty much agree with all that :)

@giannispsichountakis6073 4 года назад

Can you tell me sir if the pagani has a sapphire crystal glass? Thanks

@67spot 4 года назад

Yes indeed and a ceramic bezel

@dalepress1581 4 года назад

I have both. pagani wins on looks, but Invicta seems less squirelly in operation. Both good watches that can be had for around $60.

@PerthWAtch 4 года назад

Haha “squirrelly”! Now why didn’t I think of using that adjective? :)

@MarkM58 4 года назад

I think you did a good job, except for a couple of things. First, the dial. I don't think you can give a demerit for having a flat colorway rather than a sunburst dial. That is simply a design choice. In fairness to the Invicta, it has an applied logo and very nice printing. The PD is completely printed. Also, I'm not sure I would have given a 2 pt advantage for durability. The Pro Divers have been proven to go for 10 years or more without service. The PD doesn't have that legacy. Cheers!

@PerthWAtch 4 года назад

My view of the dial is subjective - it’s ok to have a different opinion, it would mean you give it a different mark. However, as for the durability, what you’re describing is actually the movement reliability and that is the first category. It also has nothing really to do with Invicta, but is thanks to Seiko. Slap this in another watch and it will work the same, hence the same mark for that category.

@stillltippin5758 4 месяца назад

I agree completely with your findings! Close call for sure

@PerthWAtch 4 месяца назад

Thank you :)

@TheYjmfan 2 года назад

Great review I’ve just ordered the exact same invicta.

@PerthWAtch 2 года назад

Nice!

@oliverpp1 4 года назад

Great video! I've got a Pagani PD1639, as well as a Baby Orange Monster with the 4R36, and I have to say, the NH35A in the Pagani holds up well to the Seiko, and keeps great time. Don't own an Invicta yet, but from what I've seen, your results were fair and rightly very close

@PerthWAtch 4 года назад

Thanks for that - glad that you found this interesting! :)

@HelbertHas 2 года назад

Boa noite, o dourado da pulseira é banho de ouro?

@PerthWAtch 2 года назад

What?

@jose867 4 года назад

Great review perth watch Thanks

@PerthWAtch 4 года назад

Thanks - most welcome :)

@boristabacsplatt6609 4 года назад

Great video and, although it was a very close call, I think you picked the correct winner in the end. The PG would be a world-beater in the sub-£100 market, if they could sort out the bracelet, achieve 200m WR, use some decent lume, and also improve their QC. In the meantime I'll stick with my £15 Tevise. Bought this as an everyday beater watch just shy of a year ago, and after lots of wrist time and much misuse it still looks good and is as accurate as any of my other automatic watches.

@PerthWAtch 4 года назад

Thank you - wow cool, great to hear that Tevise is still holding up well for you! 3 months would’ve done it’s worth... one year is awesome!

@manjiirmiya8383 4 года назад

Glad I got the Pagani hulk. Runs at +4sec/day . I have Jody from just one more watch to thank for that purchase.

@PerthWAtch 4 года назад

That’s awesome man, you got a very well regulated watch! :)

@dustyfarmer 3 года назад

I see a watch called BLIGER on eBay, NH35A movement & comes with a sterile dial option which I quite like. Have you any knowledge of them?

@PerthWAtch 3 года назад

No I haven’t had a Bliger but I have seen them on other channels

@RenoLaringo 3 года назад

Wouldn't that be Liger instead?

@dustyfarmer 3 года назад

@@RenoLaringo No, BLIGER.

@RenoLaringo 3 года назад

@@dustyfarmer I must have confused with : www.liger-watches.com/ Ok went on Ali and saw those indeed... didn't know of them.

@greg6162 2 года назад

Just ordered the Pagani 1639 for like $85 shipped. It’s the Gold Blue finish similar to Invicta (except blue replaced with black) shown. It’s going to be my work watch that will get beat up because I work delivering for Amazon. I just hope the lume lasts at least 3/hrs… also they both have the NH35 movement. I like the exhibition case on Pagani better. You get to see the movement

@PerthWAtch 2 года назад

Thanks for sharing those thoughts! Why 3 hours specifically?

@greg6162 2 года назад

@@PerthWAtch I deliver for Amazon DSP so I’ll be working about 3/hrs typically past sunset

@PerthWAtch 2 года назад

Ah I see, interesting!!

@surfitli 4 года назад

Nice comparison. I thing about the Invicta, if there is a problem with it, it would be much easier to deal with than the Pagini.

@PerthWAtch 4 года назад

Depends I guess, if you are using a trusty watchmaker, should be just as easy. If you mean warranty, then yeah I wouldn’t bet on the Pagani coverage!

@violinmke 4 года назад

Oh , you just go buy a new one on any major issues.

@RenoLaringo 3 года назад

Why so? nh35 movt is pretty common.

@orfatron 3 года назад

Pagani vs burei ? . Which would you choose?

@PerthWAtch 3 года назад

Never had the Burei in hand

@frankly5171 4 года назад

I have several of each and I think the Pagani is the victor by a significant margin. The sapphire crystal, ceramic bezel and much better bracelet are the difference. Both are value leaders among the micro brands. Good review! Thanks.

@PerthWAtch 4 года назад

Thanks for sharing your thoughts - I do agree the Pagani edges ahead, however I found that the overall finishing and fit of specific areas on the Invicta was better. Cheers, Ivan. PS. Make no mistake though - Invicta is not a micro brand!

@trevoryounger2107 4 года назад

you talk about Q.C issues like paint bleed, bezel play and strap fit issue on the pagani but give it same score on quality? is the rest of it better than the invicta build to even out score? im just asking as i was about to buy a pagani

@ralphus555 4 года назад

The QC issues are real. My bezel is totally misaligned. Forget about customer service. The watch does look great and seems to be reasonably accurate.

@PerthWAtch 4 года назад

I thought I elaborated quite a bit on it, and explained why it evens out.

@ralphus555 4 года назад

@@PerthWAtch I thought you covered it. Just adding my 2 cents.

@violinmke 4 года назад

Lot of used low price Invictas on the ebay.

@trevoryounger2107 4 года назад

@@PerthWAtch All good , Thanks for taking time to reply , its just when I see quality control issues , i think poor quality

@malcolmlewis6014 4 года назад

I bought the Pagani , unbeatable price direct from Pagani official store. I like the 43mm case and there is no play in the bezel of the one i received.

@PerthWAtch 4 года назад

Very nice - you got a good specimen I have to say! :)

@hb9145 2 года назад

I have move expensive watches, but I just love wearing the Invicta Pro Diver (dual tone).

@PerthWAtch 2 года назад

Invicta rocks :)

@trevorpeachey8752 4 года назад

Hi Ivan , mate what a great battle I love both of these brands and I think you got it right so great job mate . Are you interested in reviewing my Loreo L9208G blue dial yaghtmaster homage? Cheers and thanks for you great work

@PerthWAtch 4 года назад

Thanks for that Trevor - I can't remember if I've asked before, are you based in Perth?

@trevorpeachey8752 4 года назад

@@PerthWAtch hi Ivan yeah you have , I'm in Brisbane but I'm happy to express any watch I have in my collection for the channel, thanks mate

@PerthWAtch 4 года назад

Cool... you got an email I can use to reach you? (might have to try typing as iling79 [at] gmail dot com, etc as YT censors email format in comments - that's my email BTW if you wanna shoot me one?)

@1SaG 4 года назад

Did you have a Parnis in your line-up for this series?

@PerthWAtch 4 года назад

No... and many have suggested that.

@omoniyikaye 3 месяца назад

Please do a review on Parnis. Thanks

@PerthWAtch 3 месяца назад

I have - look it up!

@arcaine101 4 года назад

One thing which was left out was that the Invicta is a 200m diver. The Pagani is just a 100m resist. That is probably worth a point to the Invicta.

@PerthWAtch 4 года назад

That is correct. It wasn’t left out, but rather you just missed it - was indeed covered in the discussion.

@davidAll5 Год назад

very nice comparison, thanx

@PerthWAtch Год назад

Most welcome

@WatchGuyJive 4 года назад

Most of this I agree on except I think for Brand Invicta should have been much higher and I’m not sure about Pagani having two points more on Durability. I think Invicta would take the whole thing by two if I reviewed it but that’s my subjective opinion. Thanks for the video!

@PerthWAtch 4 года назад

Thanks for sharing your thoughts Alex... indeed some of this is subjective, but hopefully it does give you an idea of these watches.

@dire67 Год назад

I have several Prodivers and I love them. Ill have to try a Pagani Design now.

@PerthWAtch Год назад

Oh if you like the Invicta, you should love the Pagani!

@alexharris8500 4 года назад

Good vedio and competitive scores well done

@PerthWAtch 4 года назад

Thanks for that man - glad you enjoyed it :)

@syndicatedsatellite7288 4 года назад

Lots of models can be a good thing, to enable consumers to pick the watch and the price to suit them best...

@PerthWAtch 4 года назад

But... in this case it’s lots of grotesque and crappy models with super inflated false MSRP!

@syndicatedsatellite7288 4 года назад

@@PerthWAtch MSRP doesn't have any adverse affect on me. I go by what I pay at the till or checkout. With modern manufacturing, most watches generally work pretty good for the money.

@Disasterhannes 2 года назад

90 cklicks on the Pagani/ Bersigar? I got the bersigar BG-1639 it's absolutely the same watch and i count exactly 60 clicks! Did you count, or does it just say 90 on the paper? Maybe there are some othe Pagani models wich are yousing 90, but on this watch its 60 clicks, at least in my case

@PerthWAtch 2 года назад

None of these Chinese homage brands has ever told me how many clicks they have on the bezel, you have to count it yourself

@achimkohlhage1328 4 года назад

Ttly agree with yr judgement. Cheers fm Achim, Singapore+

@PerthWAtch 4 года назад

Thanks for that :)

@coyhutt8022 4 года назад

@@PerthWAtch thk u mnt thnks

@ceskyler 4 года назад

I have the Pagani and the bracelet do not get stuck, it could be some xD. But even with that, once is on your wrist, it fells normal I think, and we can personalise with a nato strap or a leather strap :o

@PerthWAtch 4 года назад

Yes I’m sure given their extremely variable QC some are bound to turn out ok by pure chance ;)

@mrki4937 3 года назад

Thank you for this insightful review. But I would give only two or three points for the Pagani‘s Brand. Reason: it is a kind of copy of an Italian sports car and the rolex‘ subbrand Tudor. At least it looks ok. Just my 50 cents

@PerthWAtch 3 года назад

Interesting. Some would give Invicta a 1 for brand :)

@StuntpilootStef 4 года назад

I think you should give weights to your scores. As it is now, your value and quality score is as important as the brand and bracelet score, which I think is not the case. You're not comparing scores out of 100 anyway, so the maximum total doesn't matter.

@PerthWAtch 4 года назад

I’ve thought about that before, such as the Watch Time magazine scoring system.

@Brantoc 4 года назад

I have both.. I agree with you on every point.. So much so that I now own 3 Pagani, but still only 1 Invicta ...

@PerthWAtch 4 года назад

Hahaha nice! :)

@johnj.9843 4 года назад

i have to double down on the quality control with pagani, mine had some very small dents like if you took a pin and hammered it down in the middle of the clasp. and micro scratches. there is about 10 dots needle head dents in the bracelets different links, its not that noticeable but its there if you look for it, so yeh quality control is not the best but overall value, like the cerami bezel and the quality of the bracelet, and the saphire and solid end links with screws where you can adjust the size, i still think the pagani is better value, not to mention their daytona line, which is the best daytona homage value out there.

@PerthWAtch 4 года назад

Oh yeah there are definitely some serious QC issues with Pagani... if you manage to get a good specimen it does hit it outta the park, but many people have had problems.

@FaustoLoGiudice 4 года назад

It is really a ceramic bezel in the pagani?

@PerthWAtch 4 года назад

Appears to be so

@tongue37de 4 года назад

I ordered a Pagani from Amazon and had to find out an great No-Go, ´cause the Pagani bracelet has no micro-adjustments so I was unable to get it fit on my wrist and this was reason enough to give in back to Amazon! This should also be mentioned in this contest.

@thomasflynn5366 4 года назад

The PD has micro adjustment. You have to open the dive extension and the micro adjust is under it. They just don't have through holes.

@PerthWAtch 4 года назад

Yes, as Thomas said, the PD does actually have micro-adjust. It is however quite difficult to use!

@stephenstebbing9460 4 года назад

Both offer very good value for money, in my opinion, the Pagani's too big, Invicta has silly trident second hand and Invicta scribed into its side, but nevertheless it's only the non-quartz movements that preclude them from my consideration.

@PerthWAtch 4 года назад

Interesting comment Stephen... you would prefer a quartz model? I think they make those also.

@JWoody-yc7bt 2 года назад

I have two Pagani's at the moment and one on order. I am VERY happy with these watches . good luck finding them for under $100.00 us now

@PerthWAtch 2 года назад

Pagani rules at the $100 mark.

@watchalot919 4 года назад

The Pagani has a ceramic bezel, the Invicta doesn't. The pagani has sapphire, which is important to me. The Pagani bracelet is infinitely better. I would like to see a proper water resistance test, as I find the ratings sceptical. I agree with the outcome, the Pagani is is a better watch. As it happens, I own the Invicta, and like it, but may invest in a Pagani model at some point. I am presently looking at the 1651, which is a Yacht master homage, so let's see a review !

@PerthWAtch 4 года назад

Thanks for the thoughts Simon - hmm, 1651... I might take a look although am not in a position to buy watches for reviews. If someone will lend me one, I might give it a whirl ;)

5 месяцев назад

Greetings from Brazil. I love Invicta and I have the same model of the video and have a Pagani Design "submariner" No Date

@PerthWAtch 5 месяцев назад

Nice one.

@rob-nb7oc 2 года назад

I'd purchased two Invicta Pro Divers from Amazon and had to return both because the bezels were so stiff as to be completely unusable. Both were 40mm. The Paganis I've purchased have very usable bezels and better bracelets.

@PerthWAtch 2 года назад

Oh that sounds rather bad! Which models were they? The popular 40mm size ones?

@rob-nb7oc 2 года назад

@@PerthWAtch Both were the 40mm. One had the coin bezel, the other had the scalloped bezel. Both had the Seiko NH35 works. Besides the bezel problems, everything else was fine. Both kept very good time as long as I had them. Fit and finish were good for the price.

@PerthWAtch 2 года назад

Sorry to hear that - it is curious, as almost all of the 40mm ones I had (and there were many) worked fine.

@willywantoknow2563 3 года назад

What about the Pagani yacht master vs invicta pro diver... I think the invicta is nicer with the sacrifice of saphire crystal and ceramic bezel... Big question... Is pagani using a fake or clone seiko?

@PerthWAtch 3 года назад

Same deal with different marks perhaps only for style. Perhaps. Whether Pagani is using a clone movement is an important question.

@TheSerbes 3 года назад

is it really sapphire glass? i know that sapphire starts at $ 500

@PerthWAtch 3 года назад

That’s complete BS - someone lied to you. There’re countless watches with sapphire crystal much much cheaper than that.

@PerthWAtch Год назад

Not the same as what?

@darioswatchclub8 Год назад

0:11 Finally the CLASH OF TITANS!!!! well....minititans 6:19 I like the Shorter Invicta Clasp! Thanks so much for this Video!

@PerthWAtch Год назад

Most welcome - glad you enjoyed it

@dude28405 4 года назад

I have to agree the area where I think the two point Victory is is in its bracelet ends at sapphire crystal ceramic bezel insert and to a lesser degree the Invicta haters can't hate it just on the fact that it's an Invicta. I almost would like to see it up against the Grand Diver Invicta I think the Grand Diver Invicta would take the lead

@PerthWAtch 4 года назад

Thanks Peter... hmm, a head-to-head against a Grand Diver might just be a good idea to do! :)

@dude28405 4 года назад

@@PerthWAtch I think most people don't realize that the Grand Diver there is subtle upgrades from the Pro Diver

@dude28405 4 года назад

@@PerthWAtch Grand driver vs. Pro Diver showing the differences might be a good comparison video too

@PerthWAtch 4 года назад

I did do a 5 watch video featuring both Pro & Grand Divers, and highlighted the appropriate differences... I think over 2 years ago now?

@TopSecretVid 4 года назад

Does the Pagani have a legit Seiko movement?

@PerthWAtch 4 года назад

I thought I said specifically that it might not be

@Hrethgir 2 года назад

The Pagani might be slightly better overall, but the 90 click bezel on it makes it a hard no for me. I've got a Pagani Daytona homage, and the clasp on the bracelet is not very good, and the edges and corners are quite sharp. This clasp looks better than mine, but I can't imagine it's much better.

@PerthWAtch 2 года назад

I got a Pagani Daytona as well and I have to say the clasp is much better than the one in this video.

@kellypaws 4 года назад

Well that’s my Pagani ordered thanks.

@PerthWAtch 4 года назад

Awesome!! :)

@reccerat4446 4 года назад

I’ve just recently got both (within the last 3 weeks) an invicta in blue/gold and a black pagani design. The Pagani wins for me hands down! In the flesh the Pagani is stunning, ceramic bezel and sapphire all for $62. Honestly it’s great value for the money!

@PerthWAtch 4 года назад

Thanks for sharing your thoughts - good to hear you’re enjoying the Pagani!

@user-wr9fv7zm9n 3 года назад

Very exciting video, which pushed me to make oder PD in AliExpress today! Thanks!)

@PerthWAtch 3 года назад

Nice - most welcome :)

@user-wr9fv7zm9n 3 года назад

@@PerthWAtch what about gossip that NH35 is clone, is it true or not? And What means clone? Fake or licensed product? Thanks!

@PerthWAtch 3 года назад

Meaning an unlicensed copy - I haven’t seen any definite proof for this

@user-wr9fv7zm9n 3 года назад

@@PerthWAtch ок, thanks so much!

@user-wr9fv7zm9n 3 года назад

I got pd 1639 few days ago, now besel have 60 click!

@clrkkdd12 3 года назад

Thanks

@PerthWAtch 3 года назад

Welcome!

@michaelmallal9101 4 года назад

I've invested a large part of my fortune into a gold coloured Invicta but am also interested in a Pagani hulk homage. I'm hoping to upgrade my self-esteem through wearing homage watches.

@PerthWAtch 4 года назад

I hope it arrives mate!

@RenoLaringo 3 года назад

lol!

@VinceRegan 4 года назад

The Invicta posseses on spec that is a deal breaker for me - the engraved INVICTA on the case side of many Grand Divers. I would have the same pushback on a brietling. If you want a bill board on me u gotta pay me

@PerthWAtch 4 года назад

Thanks for the comment - my apologies I don't understand the first part of your sentence "The Invicta posseses on spec that is a deal breaker for me". What do you mean by that?

@voiceofexperience 3 года назад

@@PerthWAtch Just a "feature" imo.

@Peter1Europe 4 года назад

Plague or TB ?

@PerthWAtch 4 года назад

Can deal with either easily ;)

@craig2100 4 года назад

I think you got it right

@PerthWAtch 4 года назад

Thanks man :)

@tmt7912 2 года назад

How about the Lum?review Gimto...

@PerthWAtch 2 года назад

English please

@TheStuartYork 4 года назад

I own both of these watches. I spent my hard earned money on both. In my humble opinion, the Pagani design watch, is miles ahead. In the blink of an eye, I'd happily return my Invicta for a return of my money. If someone offered me double the price I paid for my Pagani, I wouldn't sell it! I guess it's different if you get free watches to review.

@PerthWAtch 4 года назад

Thanks for sharing from your experience Stuart. However, please don't misunderstand, none of this are "free", and the Invicta was paid for with "hard earned money".

@TheStuartYork 4 года назад

@@PerthWAtch So sorry, I wrongly assumed they were gifts to you. Please forgive me. Best. Stuart

@PerthWAtch 4 года назад

No worries mate, it's cool.