Bug-A-Salt Shred-Er & Crosman Vigilante: Side by side comparison. 

As an avid fly assassin I can 100% recommend the Bug-a-Salt 3.0 over the Bug-a-Salt 2.0. The lethal range is much better and the safety mechanism is MUCH better. It allows for rapid firing instead of resetting safety on every shot. We have a turkey farm fairly close by and have frequent invasions from aerial terrorists. Since upgrading to the 3.0, my status has been transformed from average sniper to a true one man assault division capable of genocide. After every fly hunt I feel compelled to pray and ask forgiveness for the incredible loss of life that I and the engineers of the 3.0 are responsible for. The glee I feel watching flies fall to the ground from mid-air flak attack should feel wrong somehow but I only feel giddy. I sincerely hope my humanity and respect for life isn’t permanently destroyed by warfare with this tough and relentless enemy. I do not feel the negative effects of PTSD, thankfully. I’ll update you if changes to my sanity occurs.

Great review. I never expected the two to be interchangeable like that. Thanks for the timestamps in the description too.

Crosman has a version of the Vigilante that comes with 3 barrels (3", 6", 8") so you could dedicate one barrel for the salt rounds.

That was a great video!! Very well done!!

Hi Joe, I'm afraid I kinda forgot about this, but it so happens that someone mentioned the shoutout. While the original comment seems to have gone missing, I do remember making this statement at some point. While I'm not really the type to drink coffee, being mentioned by another channel is always an honor, which I am very thankful for. It was very interesting to see the two atually sitting side by side even if I'm two years late to the party.

just what I was lookin for

Gettin the long barrel. Excited.

I’d get the yellow one. Wouldn’t want a paranoid citizen call the cops on me then I get shot for shooting bugs.

Great video!

This is epic, i just saw bugasalt and had no idea that there is a crossman you can interchange parts with.

first time I saw the SHRED-ER, I immediately thought about my Vigilante, sure enough upon closer inspection they seem to be the same exact parts, exception of the barrel assembly

I'm wondering about replacing the Crosman barrel with a longer carbon fiber tube. It would have the benefits of extra length and smoothbore to keep the pattern smaller.

I know you mentioned at one point that some people had problems getting the salt rounds to index.. all i do if that happens to me is push the black center part out of the yellow part just a little and it works fine

Any idea how long the salt and water takes to dry before you can remove it from the cartridge with the pellets?

Wow Thanks, good info

Lol sweet, definitely going to pick up a pack of the salt ammo for my Vigilante. Thanks man!

That’s an interesting gun for sure. My only concern with salt and the steel vigilante barrel is the highly corrosive nature of salt.

4:12 Barrel length probably has less impact on penetration/pattern than the rifling. The spin imparted will cause the load to spread outward more quickly.

Index issue could be either worn mechanical parts on pistol or poor tolerances on the manufacture of the salt magazine

You can get either the Thompson M1A1 or the MP-40 from Umarex and try to salt convert them. They are full or semi auto, and use two of the small co2 carts instead of the big ones. They run BBS though, so how you’d go about making salt ammo eludes me at the moment. Just go straight to a 20 or 12 gauge shotgun with rock salt and really show em.

Will this work with the Crossman triple threat three barrel gun?

Actually it is based off of the old Crosman 357 magnum hunting revolver frame which I believe has been around a lot longer. Lol. They just reuse the same design. It must have worked well enough for it to still be around.

Btw many people are gonna say this is just a vigilante and yeah it is, but really it's a Crosman model 357 which was introduced in 1983. The vigilante just has hogue style grips and modern looking barrel shroud.

Thanks for the video. I own both a Vigilante and a Bug-a-salt 3.0. I have found that the co2 in the Vigilante leaks over time. I suspect same issue with the Shred-er. So not as practical to keep at ready, or to just use for 1 or 2 shots then let it sit waiting for the next time. Whereas the 3.0 is pump and go, every time. But if you have a bunch of targets that require the power of the Shred-er, then worth screwing down the co2 cylinder and having some fun! I think I get about 30 full power shots with each co2 cylinder then another 20 of reasonable power before it drops off too much to maintain similar point-of-aim/point-of-impact (depending on range). There are other issues that affect speed and power of co2 airguns (ambient temperature, rapid succession of shots) but maybe not as big an issue for the Shred-er, especially if shooting at close range.

I would recommend a Schmidt & Bender scope for either one for the best results! Happy Hunting!

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What were you comparing the cartridges prices? Don't u have to use the bug a salt cartridges in the vigilante? So you'd have to buy those anyway right? I'm just not understanding that part.

Nice video. Coffee mug please 🙋🏻‍♀️

So this gun is meant to shoot gun? Or you just bought the pellet gun to see if the parts were interchangeable? The vigilante is ment to shoot salt too?

Where did you get that metal pellet trap? Seems like fun!

where did you get the small target box with the bounce back buffalo?

Why did you change out chambers?

Have you found a good way to clean the barrel after shooting all that salt? Don’t want it to rust up

Cool

Nice Casio as well!

thanks man.

Interesting that this is based on the Vigilante, which I knew as the Crosman 357 back in the day. I would not want to shoot salt through my barrels though -- and swapping barrel tubes was very easy -- I put in smoothbore brake/fuel line to shoot .25 cal paintballs, same concept should work on this Vigilante as well. I also wonder if they changed the valving on the Shred-er vs Vigilante? Seems like -- if you'll pardon the expression-- OVERKILL -- to put that much power behind the salt. Can you chronograph the stock Vigilante with pellets, then swap to the Shred-er frame with Vigilante barrel, and chrono that with pellets, see if it's any different? Thanks! Great vids!

I'll be darned! So the Shred-R is just a rebranded and colored Crosman! And I thought B-A-S had come up with a unique kick ass design on its own.

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Actual range of them?I have carpenter bees hovering at 8' to 12' and these things look dangerous for 4'.

Lol that sig looks super real!

I was wondering because I recently received my piece maker

So I just got the vigilante and the shred cartridges. Mine are not cycling. Any idea what the differences could be?

man! I thougt that the bug a salt looked familiar now I know.

With revolver, it's not "synchronizing". The proper term is "timing".

How are you loading the stock vigilante cartridges with salt?

Maybe some type of homemade Sabot cartridge for the Umerex HDR 50

I am gonna get the Crossman. Order me some salt cartridge's and add a laser sight to it.

Seems like the salt would screw up the rifling on the vigilante

My same thoughts, the all black gun looked to real. I would hate having fun shooting fly's turning into something worse.

What would you recommend buying? The original Bug a Salt or the Crossman Vigilante using the salt cartridges? I need it for flies, spiders and cockroaches. I believe the Shredder is not worth the money. Thanks!

Off topic but what make and model is your dive watch?

Practical or not, it’s genius! Please try to load both of those. We got murder hornets here in Washington. Who knows, the information you put forth, just might save someone’s life!

Can you use it to scare away raccoons?

I like your shirt my friend 7th infantry

Can we get a holster for this thing

And here I had just commented on another one of your videos, saying how identical this thing is to the Crosman .357/Vigilante. lol.

i just commented on this minutes ago and said it looked like a crosman 357 or vigilante lol !

That is awsome. But leaving a gun charged, waiting for a fly seems wrong. I never leave a CO2 gun charged. And dont want to waste an entire CO2 caartridge on one or two flies. BTW. what do you you call a fly after you tear his wings off? ......... A Walk.

When he went after that mosquito, I was cringing when he was waving that gun around down below. Careful!

Sadly it isnt sold in germany -.- i want the revolver :(

Where is the orange tip?

What's the distance on the Crosman Vigilante with the salt in it. I am looking for something to scare off a dog when I am riding my bike. I was think this might just be enough.

Where is the side by side comparison? Debating which one to get, doubt many people have both and care about interchangeability

This made me fart...I DIDNT WANT TO FART!

Nice shirt... B. Co.4/14 Inf. Buffalo.

do a paper cartridge for the umarex

I reload mine with masking tape to get it tight try that on that big ass joker

Consider birdshot in a shotgun. -Rifling is not your friend as it “sprays” by way of the helix.

Counting the minutes before some one is killed by police because of this gun.

I bet these are banned in Europe

Can you take out a squirrel with either one?

Here’s you next purchase. Gamo viper express. Fill the shot shells and other salt! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ftaXwZ9W1Xg.html

So what I'm hearing, is buy a Crosman CCP8B2 Vigelante because it's almost half the price, and ammo from the Shred-Er lol