Bugera amplifiers: do they sound CHEAP? - StrumentiMusicali.net 

Hey thanks a lot, deeply appreciated!

thanks! really appreciated

I owned the original back when it launched, and it was basically only useful for that. It is super nice for just cleaning up when you arent playing, but it isnt a tight gate, for sure!

Hey Justin can you upload a vid with more info on that tube swap?

Thanks!

no way do bugera amps look cheap, maybe they're cheap in price but that's it. they're build quality is better than quite a few more expensive amps. i have a g20 infinium and that thing looks and feels way more expensive than it is. the value you get is insane.

Not quite. 333 is XXX. 333XL is JSX.

I’ll keep it in mind!

Thanks Bruno, really appreciated. I will upload a more detailed video about my studio gear, but in short I use a torpedo captor with the torpedo cab m. basically a reactive load and a cab simulator, so no real cab in the recording. Many others use the same system, some use different brands, but it's pretty much the same concept

They are all valve amps so I guess it depends on your tastes

I’d like to try that one too

Too bad they don't make them anymore...

Yep, too bad

1969 definitely

Thanks! Torpedo captor with Cab M sims

Thanks Chuck, honestly the used market is kind of crazy and unpredictable these days! Cheers to another Guitalian, then! ;)

I don't really know why, it can be many different things. My Mad Cat amp sounds a bit more creamy and "soft" than a marshall 1987x anyway. The Bugera doesn't sound bad at all but I like better the other two models

@@TheGuitalian I noticed my burgera 1960 has a "hard" attack sound. is that similar to a real Marshall?

hard to say. If you're speaking about the fast hitting character, kind of unforgiving for the player is a common thing on high wattage amps, usually lower wattage amps are more saggy. However a classic Marshall 100 watt plexi is like a Mike Tyson punch on your chest :)

Low input just gives you much less distortion despite the pickups.

So I have the 333XL and I have active pickups. I ran the low input just to try it and it sounds "almost" the same at lower volume. At high volume, it's trying to distort and overdrive less. On the forums I read one is attenuated and one is not and that's the function of it. Overall though no big difference in distortion or overdrive although I said it's less, it is less, but the 333xl wants to distort and overdrive anyways unless you're on the clean channel.

@@Archlegan it is attenuated a bit so you get less drive out of the various channels but it also is a little darker at least with passive pickups. High input generally sounds best unless you are accidentally driving a clean channel or you are trying to get you know edge of break up tone out of one of the dirty channels.

I’d always go for tube amps, but I heard great things about katana, with effects etc. I think it’s not a fair comparison since they two different categories of products

@@TheGuitalian okay fair enough if you were to chooose ? Lol

I already have a lot of effects so I’d go for the valve amp

@@TheGuitalian cool man thanks

Uhm, I'm torn between the 6262 and the 333xl. Maybe the 6262 in studio and the 333xl for live applications

I have the 333xl for the past 15 years. Wanted it to be a temporary amp head so I could save up for a Mesa Boogie Triple Rectifier. I fell in love with the amp and no price would sell it as it has done me for many gigs: never had to drop the money on a Mesa boogie

Low volume? Why are you wanting a tube amp to play at low volume? You buy a tube amp to crank it. That's the entire point of the tech inside it.

@@WardenOfTerra you don't want to crank power section on the metal hi-gain amps like 6262, it sounds worse when cranked

@@WardenOfTerra you can't play it on really low volume either of course, it sounds muffled, but volume 0,8/10 is enough

its a tube amp, so likely not well. you need a solid state for low volume practice, that or an attenuator, but looking for a decent attenuator for a tube amp can be a challenge, because they often kill a lot of your eq spectrum. The bugera power soak is a decent one for under a hundred bucks, but ive heard mixed reviews on it

however if you're looking for decent cheap solid states to practice with, cant go wrong with a line 6 spyder series amp, the boss katana, any solid state joyo amp, or the peavey vypr. there's many more, but i'd say just look around. randall make some pretty decent solid states as well

Non ricordo esattamente, più o meno girano sempre le solite 3 o 4, la maggior parte con Greenback e recentemente una coi v30. Comunque c’era anche la versione in italiano di questo video sul mio altro canale ;)

@@TheGuitalian si, ho visto entrambi i video. Grazie comunque.

That issue has been resolved I've had my 6262 infinium for 5 yrs only issue i had was phase inverter tube went out but pull it out put new one in and back to playing they are built solid and for the price you can't go wrong....alot of bang for the bucks

@@johnvalderrama9339 you had luck, many others just don`t, there are much better alternatives out there for even less 💰, cheers 🎸

Really? That’s a shame, I was really hoping to get one when I heard about that master volume.

@@bluehole6019 I believe Orange offers a 15 Watt head (all tube), that can get you the same style of sound, i mean, if you want to use it at bedroom levels.

Attenuators boys. Get yourself a decent attenuator. They’re worth every penny.

I heard many different stories about it, with some people having a lot of troubles and other ma having 0 issues. They are probably not that consistent in terms of reliability

Yeah no... I know that they have a reputation for "being cheap' and breaking or needing repair. I know that stories STILL abound of these things "catching fire". I've owned the 1990 infinium, the 6262 infinium, the 6260, the 333 combo and a G-20. I've not had a single issue other than I blew a fuse at a venue due to dirty power from the mains, funnily enough the amp was well built enough to survive the power surge, replaced fuse, and works like a champ still after 2 years later. They are about as bullet proof as they can be for around 500 dollars. The only major issue the Bugera line has ever had were manufacturing teething issues when they were first released due to contracted factories undercutting qc parameters and installing faulty tubes and poorly built transformers, resulting in very few isolated events where an amps power section would cook itself, however, based on the information I know of these teething issues were being addressed before the news of these issues ever caught traction with the public. This reputation is overwhelmingly unfair, especially considering the commonly known issues known with amp brands over the years from brands that have a lot "better" reputation, *cough* Ampeg, Marshall, etcetc *cough*. These commonly stated "reliability issues" are based on very few isolated events in the early inception of the bugera tube amps, in combination with being part of the Musictribe family under Behringer. Unless you've owned a single bugera amp and had unending issues with it, I'd be wise and avoid conversations that are founded in opinion and fed by gossip of the holier than thou's....

@@illexploityou i have a V22 infinium head I bought used 3 years ago, and have not had any problems at all.

a lot of the early models, even the new infinium editions, had issues from what Ive heard, and as was mentioned above, but Ive heard none of that about models that came out in the mid teens, at least in the German forums I roam around. Still I haven't head from people who seriously abused them "on the road" so to speak, that I wonder who actually did just that. Cant blame them bc the 1960, for instance, is such a pain to lug around, you wont believe it. SO the lack of actual critical reviews from people who played those things in all kinds of venues, in comparison to an actual 1959, is what makes it hard to gauge the quality of the amp in the long run, other than its price.

@@maxmustardman298 all amp manufacturers have issues with reliability in tube amp production, it's the nature of the technology... Marshall, as an example, forever tarnished the reputation of the now proven and reliable as well as awesome sounding DSL100H & HR after the UK built JCM2000s were bonefied hunks of junk. Its easy to discard Bugera as comparable in reliability to higher priced amps, which they have managed to do a pretty good job at, regardless of peoples preconceived opinions about amps they've never set eyes on outside of RU-vid. Like I said, I've owned quite a few of them, never had an issue, save one time, and it was not a manufacturing issue, a blown fuse on my 1990 Infinium, it suffered no other damage aside from needing a replacement fuse.

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Grazie! Si vede allora che non producono più la 1960