Build Video - Land Rover Discovery 4 / LR4 

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Thanks very much Kevin. I haven't changed much in the last year or so and have been very happy with it.

Glad you liked it. We need more D4/LR4 content on the tube for sure.

Thanks Peter.

Thanks, appreciate the feedback

Thanks Alex, hopefully you get a few ideas from it.

Cheers, thanks a lot

Yeah I'm very happy to have gone to 18's. So much better for tyre selection, as well as extra sidewall.

Mate, your help was also invaluable to get anywhere near something usable. I still plan to see if there’s a build video in there for your D4 too 👍🏻

Thanks Peta. It was tough to be on camera, did not come naturally at all!

Thanks mate

Thanks Pete. Yeah the table has been a great addition. Almost looks like it was always there.

Cheers mate

Thanks and glad you enjoyed it.

Thanks a lot, although I don't think there's too many D4 ones on YT yet.

​@@sienaoverland Only because most people don't appreciate how capable, comfortable and reliable the D3/4's can be as touring vehicles... most practical vehicle I've ever owned.

Cheers mate.

Thanks

Thanks 👍 the compressor under the seat has worked quite well. I would need to build a full cover if I had second row passengers but we virtually always tour just the two of us.

@@sienaoverland okay, I’m travelling with 4 plus a big dog, bit if a stretch 😄

@@VISTATREKKER it’s still a good position but better if protected from being accidentally kicked.

You’re welcome.

Thanks very much. I see you’ve got a Disco Sport, so a D4 would feel huge in comparison and give plenty of scope for overlanding builds. PS .... I’d still be keen to see your finished setup in the Sport 👍🏻

Oh yes, we have to finish it. We stopped it on half way cause we decided to built a bed in the car for holiday.

Cheers 👍🏻

Thanks 👍

Thanks 👍

Thanks very much. It's been a lot of time, effort and $$$ but I'm now very happy with the setup.

Thank you very much.

Glad you liked it

Thanks.

Thanks 👍 I tend to be pretty slow with lots of pondering with mods. And also things get figured out based on how we use the gear when out on trips.

More details here: scotthumphris4.wixsite.com/trips/land-rover-discovery

Cheers 👍🏻

Thanks mate

Thanks!

Cheers Zac. I spose I took something of a punt, assuming that the Prospeed unit would be of a higher quality than some of the more basic cradle mounts & I feel that punt has paid off. I had read a few comments along the lines of other ones needing slight modification around mounting which wasn't very inspiring. I also really rated what Prospeed had done regarding the side extensions. They are not just flimsy brackets to pick up the washer bottle and valve block. They are tubular loops that I believe will have similar strength to the factory steel bumper that gets removed when the mount is fitted (factory steel bumper extends right across the front). There is another brand that has similar features and is similar cost but I "knew" Prospeed having bought spot light mounts and a mate had their rock sliders. Devon is the other mount that I considered.

@@sienaoverland Some great products on your rig. Will be checking them out. Thanks Scott

Cheers and I will look out for your video, always good to see what people do. You won't have any issues with 265/65/R18 other than minor rubbing, depending on tyre choice. The vehicle will still drive/roll on the bump stops at that size, although it'll be a very bumpy ride. I personally would never run the extension kit and therefore be higher in the suspension travel full-time regardless of clearance actually required. The ride is far worse and things get quite bouncy in steep technical terrain the higher you go in the travel range. The beauty of Llams is that you can select a height that's no more than required for any given situation and so have the suspension as low & supple as possible for only the clearance you need. Llams will allow you to raise up close to normal height for certain types of faults where the system drops the vehicle to what it considers a "safe" height, which is approx Access height. But a diagnostic tool like the iiD from Gap will achieve the same thing and more in terms of fault clearing. Llams is great because it's so easy and quick to set the height where you want it you can respond to clearance changes rather than just set the suspension high and leave it.

Interesting comment. What do you think makes a build suitable for cold weather and/or what do you think requires changing as compared to my build?

@@sienaoverland I am thinking along the lines of the chance to sleep inside the LR4 rather than outside, much of the space inside is used to store items, and not much room for shelter. We get really harsh weather I am looking at what Kasper Hogland is doing for example. (Instagram he is showing his build process). Perhaps adding side window boxes such as in the new defender would help for example. I am also looking at Egoe Nest solutions as it has an upper sleeping arrangement with a lower kitchen and utilities. Would be nice to see your opinion on all this 🙂

Thanks for the feedback. I try to do everything properly as best I can. Did consider snorkel but in the end decided not required. If it’s deep enough to really need one I’m likely to not attempt crossing anyway. May do OTT all the way on Cape one day but even then may decide against Nolan’s

All depends on your needs but I do really believe in the value of 18" wheels for the far greater tyre choice and additional tyre volume to allow running lower pressures for sustained periods. I haven't noticed any detrimental affects from the steelie's additional mass but these days Tuffant also has alloys, which were not around when I bought the Compos. Obviously steel wheels offer the advantage of being somewhat "repairable" trackside as they're more likely to just bend rather than break or crack. But for most places there's very low risk with good quality alloys like Compo and Tuffant.

Standard drivetrain for me, no rear e-diff. For everything except the most technical, loose rock crawling the lack of rear e-diff is inconsequential. For beach driving you don't need it at all and a standard drivetrain with terrain response is more than good enough. Tyre pressure matched to the sand conditions is far more important.

Thanks Cameron and that's a good question. The D4 really is underrated for self-sufficient long distance travel. It is such a versatile vehicle and almost perfectly suits all the types of trip we like to do, from short camping weekends to multi-week overland journeys to van towing, plus it's been a great daily driver. I had a Range Rover Classic in the 90s and then nothing for 15 years so had a soft spot for LR. But when we looked closely at the D4 in 2014 it just ticked all the boxes; the space and the ride are brilliant.

Thanks Trevor. The winch was all my own fitment. The Prospeed cradle is purchased direct from prospeed in the UK, Carbon Winch 12K is direct from Carbon, the BlueSea solenoid isolator was bought from Outback Marine. A few more details on my webpage: scotthumphris4.wixsite.com/trips/land-rover-discovery

It's a Mitch Hitch by Mitchell Brothers 4x4 out of Sydney. There's also a copy these days. I don't rate the factory hitches, too low but this one is an almost ideal height.

Hi. The spare wheel holder mounts to the tow point and is removable. No I don't have a long range tank, I have the spare mounted under. I use the spare wheel holder for big trips if I want to carry 2 spares and/or extra fuel. Backbone was not available when I setup the roof platform and to be honest I'm pretty happy with the track-mounted legs anyway.

I don't have the rear ediff (locking) either, just traction control. I have never found a situation where I "needed" the locking diff but quite a few situations where the locking diff makes progress smoother with less wheel spin. You can see a comparison in one of my early videos of a short but steep and scrabbly hill climb. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ZylNtWfhKQM.html

Cheers. Yes that is the end of my manual tailgate release cable. One of the mods that didn’t get covered in this video.

Thanks Daniel. The Tuffant steelies are great. Obviously very robust & more able to cop a beating. I prefer the look of alloys and good ones are also plenty strong enough. I have not detected any difference in performance resulting from the extra weight in the steel wheels especially given that I run heavy LT tyres anyway.

The current set is 265/65/R18 but mostly I have run 265/60/R18. However, I haven't found much benefit from the bigger 265/65. Especially for touring, where its worse fuel economy doesn't offset the advantages of slightly more clearance and sidewall. I'll most likely to back to 265/60 in future.

It's a Mitch Hitch by Mitchell Brothers 4x4 out of Sydney. There's also a copy these days. I don't rate the factory hitches, too low.

None. Nothing required, other than yearly inspection and adjustment. Keeping it clean and in adjustment is the key.

yep, Tuffant 18" wheels fit over the factory brakes

It's a Mitch Hitch by Mitchell Brothers 4x4 out of Sydney. There's also a copy these days. I don't rate the factory hitches, too low.

Thanks very much. My Rhino-Rack Pioneer Platform is mounted to Rhino tracks in lieu of the factory ones. You may need different legs if already have factory tracks. 1528 x 1376 wide c/w RLTP legs x 4 RTS502 Trackset (suits D3 and D4)

I find that tightening further with a screwdriver through the central open body provides sufficient extra tension and they don't loosen.

A local stainless steel fabricator. I gave him a basic design drawing so that bracket would match both the light and the Prospeed grill bracket.

And functional too.

Cheers and thanks

It's all by Ram; a wedge mount beside seat and ball/socket arm finished with their iPad holder. However, since filming this video I bought a Garmin Overlander, which I would go with if only wanting a single GPS device. I still use the iPad as shown because I've got it but the Overlander is better.

The swags are by Oztent and called Bunker. A combination of stretcher and swag that works really well. We got them from Snowys: www.snowys.com.au/bunker-pro-stretcher-tent

Battery tray supplied as part of the Traxide dual battery kit. Not sure if they can be purchased separately. I believe Front Runner make a battery tray that suits but haven't researched. www.traxide.com.au/diy-dual-battery-kits/land-rover-dbs-kits/discovery-4-dbs-kits/d4-5s.html

@@sienaoverland thanks Scott, much appreciated.

Thanks Charlie. Front parking sensors are fully functional. They are mounted in the front bumper away from where the winch cradle sits. I think if you had radar cruise control it may be an issue but we don’t have that so not sure.

@@sienaoverland awesome, thanks so much. We’re all good as we don’t have radar cruise control. Btw, having just looked at your vid again, at 1:16 you seem to have a 13mm (?!) spanner stuck down in the winch bracketry. Hopefully you spotted it ages ago, but just in case…! 😁

Yeah that shot was taken while still doing up the main bolts 👌🏻

No idea really. Developed over many years, project by project. Tried to be cost effective and what I thought good value but not cheap that’s for sure

Hi Tomasz. The mounts are a combination of Prospeed mounts through the grill and then custom ones I had fabricated to suit my specific selection of spotlight. The rospeed product is a great starting point and depending on what lights you choose may be suitable by itself. prospeed-group.co.uk/product/discovery-34-front-spotlight-mounts/

Thanks and no, there's zero modifications required to run 265/60/R18 or even 265/65/R18 although for the 265/65 you do need to fully deflate the spare wheel to make it fit and even then it's typically tight.

@@sienaoverland ok it's good to know. Thanks. And what about the speedometer? Does having bigger wheels affect speed accuracy ? In theory, more distance is made with a wheel having a larger circumference, so the speed should be higher for the same RPM... ?

Yes bigger wheels change speedo but these sizes actually bring it closer to correct, at least in Australia. Here the speedo is required by law to never over state speed so manufacturers always apply a factor such that it under states.

@@sienaoverland very interesting. Thanks a lot for your answers.

@@sienaoverland Hey Scott! Thanks for sharing your priceless experience with LR lovers) Respect ✊ You can congratulate I've me just became me the part of the Discovery Family and bought my first LR Disco 4 2012 5.0 🤘 Thinking about the list of the upgrades but really want to start from the wheels, from the previous owner I've got 2 sets of wheels (summer/winter) on rims both 255/55/R19. Since I was never a huge fan of low profile tires but just going to do my first steps in off-road and over landing could you please recommend me some nice balance (in your personal opinion) between comfortable city ride and off-road capable size of the tires? I'm definitely looking forward to go for R18 but not sure about the proper parameters of the wheels would be better to buy. If you can also give some ideas of the brands and models that could help me a lot) Don't want to waist my money for unreliable products that might set me up being in the middle of nowhere. Thank you Australian LR brother! Cheers to all, Max

Yes I have the stock 19” wheels and no mods to brakes required with the aftermarket wheels I have. Tuffant specifically developed both steelies and alloys to fit without brake mods and with offsets that are legal in Australia.

www.tuffant.com/product-page/set-of-5-tuffant-steelies-gen2

@@sienaoverland ok. Thank you very much.

TD and SE spec would be equally suitable for remote trips. At least as far as the Aust specs are concerned but I don’t know details for other markets.

@@sienaoverland thanks Scott, love your nicely kitted setup

Thanks. The lights are LED DRLs commonly known as "eagle eyes". I got them via eBay.

How did you route the wiring/switching for them ? I assume off the traxside auxiliary battery wiring ? Be really keen to see a vid on how you did it....I suspect there are thousands of us out there that would like to see how you did it. It’s a great mod.

@@vasculardoc Yes added a cable to the rear aux cabling and then routed up into the tailgate. Will do a video one day when I do the same thing to the D3 but don't hold your breath, probably won't get to that for a year or more.

Oztent Bunker. Great product, very happy with them. Combination of swag and tent.

LOL, great taste clearly. About a year ago (after this video) the Mito was sold and a 2005 V8 D3 was bought. We loved that little car but like the V8 more :)

I think they’re similar to other 4WDs in that things wear out and need replacement and sometimes things break and need fixing. So far touch wood it’s never let me down. There are less mechanics who are familiar with them compared to Toyota etc and that can be difficult but they’re out there. Everything is repairable and parts are available although sometimes easier and quicker to source from UK.

@@sienaoverland Cheers mate. Appreciate for your response.

The people who are most negative about these vehicles regarding maintenance or reliability are typically people who’ve no real idea about them and have never owned one.

​@@sienaoverland Agree. I have only one friend had Discovery II for 10 years and he was so happy with it. He needed to change one part related to back door although it cost him fortune though :) He always says that. Other than that haven't heard anything bad. I am planning to head off the grid for 3 months with my partner. We both working remotely. So we are looking for something reliable and not give us pain. I am not going to go hardcore off-road anyway. Mainly beach and basic off roads.

We are running basically at GVM or even slightly over for a day when in full overlanding/remote travel mode with max water and fuel, which obviously reduces as you use fuel and water. But I've never felt the weight in degraded performance even during soft dune crossing. Except maybe some wallowing of the somewhat tired shocks (now replaced). In my view the D4 performs fantastically when at or near max weight.

@@sienaoverland yes you are right there these vehicles love the weight .My D3 eats up the extra weight when loaded however the D4 has more grunt so i guess you would hardly notice.I would love to put a 3ltr into my D3 .

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TDV6. For me reliability has been excellent (touch wood) over the first 6 years but I know that things need replacement as it ages further.

@@sienaoverland Shameless self plug: GAP Diagnostic IIDTool. :-p Very, very nice D4!

Thanks for the support. Can't say I'm an expert for buying secondhand but what I'd be focused on is service history. I understand the SCV6 is a very reliable engine but as with any vehicle fluids and filters need to be changed on time or early.

Thanks Scott, I already own a 2013 RRS 5L V8 petrol. As of now she is ok 😜😜

Hi and thanks. The tablet is an iPad Mini, the version with sim card capability which also has gps. It's mounted using a Ram Wedge, arm and iPad Mini bracket. Have also recently bought the Garmin Overlander.

Yes, I do worry about the crank shaft breaking and needing an expensive replacement engine. But it is a relatively low risk and I'm prepared to take that risk because the D4 is so good for how we use it & nothing else appeals, except maybe a new Defender. There's really nothing you can do as a precaution except regular oil changes, which are no guarantee.

@@sienaoverland Thanks for the quick response

@@sienaoverland Thanks again for the quick response.

@@sienaoverland By the way, did Land Rover changed from a cast crank- shaft to a forged one at a time?

The closest to what I’ve got in the current Hard Korr range is this one I think: hardkorr.com/au/product/lifestyle-7-led-driving-lights-pair-w-harness/?gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAAolO1tcS-Cc0IjVefXjiD7W2StGVb&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIsPONt6XJhwMVxPpMAh2sTg4lEAAYASAAEgJS7fD_BwE

Not sure mate. Seems fine for me, on phone and PC

I try but it's not easy without pro-quality gear that I can't afford.

does it for sale? If you say yes how much for it? Send me all information that I need to know ok.I need a Landrover Discovery lr4.

Cheers Kyle