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High quality buffers are the best remedy for the dreaded tone suck that many guitar and bass players experience when using their pedalboards. Today, the Rig Doctor is showing you how to build your own Pedalboard Buffer Interface along with several diagrams and templates to customize your interface with the options you desire, including: mono, stereo, wet/dry, 4 cable method, tuner out, audition loop, splitters, and more!
⬇️ DIY BUFFER INTERFACE DIAGRAMS, TEMPLATES, & MATERIALS ⬇️
Mono - vertexeffects....
Mono w/Tuner Out - vertexeffects....
Mono w/Splitter - www.vertexeffe...
Mono w/Audition Loop - vertexeffects....
4 Cable Method (FX Loop) - vertexeffects....
Wet/Dry - vertexeffects....
Stereo - vertexeffects....
Buy VERTEX Pedalboards HERE:
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Buy VERTEX Cables HERE:
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Buy VERTEX Pedals HERE:
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🔻 //rig consulting//🔻
PRIVATE: www.therigdr.c...
GROUP: www.therigdr.c...
🔈 //podcast// 🔈
Apple: apple.co/36dSQzK
Spotify: spoti.fi/2WGLku8
⬇️ //recommended materials// ⬇️
//buffers//
Vertex DIY - vertexeffects....
Mesa Boogie High-Wire (dual buffer) - bit.ly/2lZwS0s
Empress Stereo Buffer - amzn.to/33lyvHk
Vertex Boost - amzn.to/3hVwvN2
TC Bonafide Buffer (output buffer only - you'll need two) - amzn.to/2vrTSug
//power supply//
CIOKS DC7 - amzn.to/3d4qOty
CIOKS 8 - amzn.to/2zW5YOn
CIOKS 4 - amzn.to/33jWAOZ
Truetone CS6 - amzn.to/2wWLbII
Truetone CS7 - amzn.to/2x1Nf2k
Truetone CS12 - amzn.to/33rfLq3
Voodoo Lab x4 - amzn.to/2ILwKtP
Strymon Zuma - amzn.to/3dpZANe
Strymon Ojai - amzn.to/3evVXGE
Strymon Zuma R300 - amzn.to/2ZgLclt
IEC Plug Covers - bit.ly/34fpGl3
//pedalboard patch cables//
VERTEX Patch Cables - reverb.com/sho...
//instrument cables//
VERTEX Instrument Cables - reverb.com/sho...
//dc power cables//
2.1mm DC Power Plugs (right angle) - bit.ly/2pGqXzI
2.1mm DC Power Plugs (straight) - bit.ly/36wd1sA
Bulk Power Cables (pre made) - amzn.to/3ev1q0t
//midi//
MIDI Plugs (right angle) - bit.ly/2oKHDFG
MIDI Plugs (straight) - bit.ly/32fNNLF
MIDI Cable (bulk) - amzn.to/2tPAHWQ
//pedalboards, lifts, risers, bridges//
Pedalboard Surfaces - reverb.com/sho...
Pedal Risers/Lifts/Bridges - reverb.com/sho...
//velcro//
3M Dual Lock SJ3550 (for pedal) - amzn.to/2TP1rlu
3M Dual Lock SJ3551 (for base) - amzn.to/2I8a7SG
//cable management//
Zip Ties - amzn.to/2HP1Ulv
Tie Down Mounts - amzn.to/2r5ZkAN
//pedalboard tools//
Soldering Iron - amzn.to/2TTdMI4
Solder (60/40) - amzn.to/2U7XhsD
Solder Dispenser - amzn.to/2GpgMpR
Octopus Arms - amzn.to/2V3O8OD
Wire Strippers (30-20 AWG) - amzn.to/2BBMI6n
Wire Strippers (20-10 AWG) - amzn.to/2EbhBR3
Wire Snips - amzn.to/2EazwqU
Vise - amzn.to/2E9eTLO
Heat Gun (embossing gun) - amzn.to/2BwGdlm
Label Maker - amzn.to/2BCBcHU
Label Maker Tape (black) - amzn.to/2Cd3CZe
Label Maker Tape (clear) - amzn.to/34piDD4
Deoxit D5 Contact Cleaner - amzn.to/2GEm4gu
Truetone Milliamp (mA) Reader - amzn.to/2F9v3VN
Tone Brush - amzn.to/2HIfze3
Upholstery Crow Bar - amzn.to/2HIOU0K
Multimeter - amzn.to/2YW9BdE
Goo Gone - amzn.to/31rGJeS
👇 CLICK BELOW FOR ALL DIY DIAGRAMS 👇
DIY Power Cables: vertexeffects.....
DIY Interface: vertexeffects....
DIY Buffers: vertexeffects....
CONTRIBUTORS:
Hunter Harrison - Mixing, Audio Editing
Mason Mejia - Co-Producing, Editing
Mason Marangella - Co-Producing
Nico Sotomayor - Videographer
#PedalboardBuffer #DIYBuffer #BufferInterface

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@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
For all DIY Buffer Interface diagrams, templates, and materials, including: mono, stereo, wet/dry, and 4 cable method CLICK HERE 👉 vertexeffects.com/diy-buffer
@Frankyandhisguitar
@Frankyandhisguitar 3 года назад
Thanks brotha!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
🙏🙏🙏
@philippgrunert8776
@philippgrunert8776 3 года назад
Thanks so much!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
@@philippgrunert8776 🥰🥰🥰
@stephenchow5161
@stephenchow5161 3 года назад
awesome thanks
@RobvandenBoogaard
@RobvandenBoogaard 11 месяцев назад
VERTEX, a company that SELLS products and absolutely has every right to be secretive of how to do stuff, but instead the owner teaches you how to DIY things that could potentially impact his company revenues. You sir, are a class act! Fantastic how you are willing to teach and empower everyone. 👏🏻
@lucastauble3835
@lucastauble3835 3 года назад
I just finished my pedalboard interface inspired by your diy dual mono buffer + audition loop and it sounds awesome! The signal has much more clarity, everything sounds better and the connections to the board are tidy and easy. Thank you very much! I love your channel!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
That's awesome!
@GitarmanBob
@GitarmanBob 3 года назад
Uncle Mason!!!! So about a year ago (or whenever it was) you posted on how to make a pedalboard interface box to have all my ins/outs run through one enclosure. Been very, very useful! I built a 4 cable assembly inside some braided pet sleeve to run between pedalboard and amp, and it has made setting up the 4 cable method quick and easy. Now I will just replace those nylon isolated Neutrik jacks with these buffers! Thanks so much for your continuing to teach all of us.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
Perfect 👌. This will work just great!
@ForgetEverything1224
@ForgetEverything1224 3 года назад
Wow this is awesome. This solved the issues on where to place the buffer. No need for having two buffer for input and output. Good job doc 👌👍🏻
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
🥰🥰🥰 our pleasure!
@bmdoughe
@bmdoughe 3 года назад
Honestly one of the best electrical DIY videos I've seen. Great job dude, I'll probably be making one of this soon.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
I'm so glad you dig it!
@davehappablap5549
@davehappablap5549 Год назад
Love the outward focus on making us all sound better, know more and enjoy more. Simply… thanks MM.
@DanielBobke
@DanielBobke 2 года назад
Great video! Not only did it inspire me to build a buffer as a project, it gave me a better understanding of what buffers do and why they are necessary for every board. Now - it should be pointed out that you are not saving any money here...in fact, with the cost of those buffer jacks alone, this costs more than two TrueTone or JHS buffers. Your time also has value, so this is far more expensive than buying one that is already made. However, I think it is a very cool project and I am all in.
@joshscus
@joshscus 3 года назад
This is truly an amazing idea Mason! So many thanks to you for bringing this kind of information, diagrams, etc., directly to the average, at home DIY players! This video is gold!!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
🙏🙏🙏 hope you find it helpful!
@RobReischakMusic
@RobReischakMusic 3 года назад
Alright! Now, this is the video I was waiting for! Thank you, Mason! Cheers from Pasadena!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
Please enjoy!
@DanielGutierrez-vq5uq
@DanielGutierrez-vq5uq 3 года назад
rig doctor you are a king!! love you!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
🥰🥰🥰🥰
@AntonovichHicksenbrau
@AntonovichHicksenbrau 3 года назад
Get a room.. - JK I feel the same way
@chendinsordiuken
@chendinsordiuken 3 года назад
Thank you Mason! this is amazing, when i saw your video of the John Mayer Pedalboard i went immediately to the vertex website to see if you were selling this box, it is awesome that you´ve taken the time to explain how to do it, you are the man!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
This is much more sophisticated than that, this is fully active, multiple Buffer options, what was on the John Mayer Pedalboard was all passive.
@chendinsordiuken
@chendinsordiuken 3 года назад
@@VertexEffectsInc yes, that is what i was thinking, this one is active, on the JM video you didnt pluged this box, quick question, for a pasive box you only need to connect the jacks?
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
Correct, just pass throughs
@DiegoNavaR2
@DiegoNavaR2 3 месяца назад
I ordered all the materials for the mono configuration. Maybe it was more convenient for me to buy the Vertex buffer already done, because the international shipping costs are high. But I decided to go for the DIY option in order to build it as a personal and customizable project. Thank you so much!!
@JeffKeel
@JeffKeel 3 года назад
Mason, thanks. I am in on learning these skills. This will be the beginning of the learning process for me. Great stuff and such great value for us.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
Thanks JT! Please spread the word! Thanks for watching!!!
@thecutfighting
@thecutfighting 3 года назад
Such a great timing as I was planing on building a new pedalboard ! Thank you so much, cheers from France
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
Amazing! This should be everything you need!
@nicolasfresard
@nicolasfresard 3 года назад
The video we were waiting for!!! Thank you Doc!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
🥰🥰🥰
@diminishedseventh
@diminishedseventh 3 года назад
Mason, I've been a diy/tinker for along time. Just as a matter of preference, I do or would do some things differently than you. That said, it's pretty awesome that you make these videos. I know a few people that gave that little passive patch bay you did a while back. They all ended up learning other things in the process. I guess what I'm getting at is thanks man. Also, I love the SSS.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
Jason, thanks for watching and for the feedback. I'd always love to hear from DIYers how they thing these things could be presented better - it only helps the final product so feel free to share if you have an alliterative or better method. My confines are the four walls of my brain LOL, so that leave a good margin for error.
@diminishedseventh
@diminishedseventh 3 года назад
@@VertexEffectsInc the things I'd do different are just to do with my setup specifically. All of these are good ideas. You're presentation is great and has motivated at least a few people I know to learn more and try something they may have otherwise found intimidating. I think that's a good thing regardless of the subject matter.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
@@diminishedseventh any suggestions on set ups we didn't cover in the diagrams? The main one I didn't to, on purpose, was those with galvanic isolation, mostly because the transformers for this aren't ideal that are inexpensive.
@diminishedseventh
@diminishedseventh 3 года назад
@@VertexEffectsInc I gotta say, I didn't expect this much engagement, but I don't get to nerd out that often. I don't know that I have any suggestions really. I don't generally like to include any transformers in a guitar setup that aren't strictly necessary. I don't recall hearing you mention it, but I assumed that was at least partly why you liked the Truetone power supplies. I don't think I could agree with you more on the point about good ground. Proper, consistent ground prevents so many annoying problems. I try as much as possible to keep cable runs as short as is reasonable and keep ground as consistent as possible. In my rig, everything in the fx loop is in a rack that sits with the amp. That came about as answer to cable lengths, but also eliminates the need to do 4-cable on the floor. I do have an A/B switch where the switching is mechanical straight to the A output, but there's a buffer on the B output. It's purpose is to facilitate two independent signal chains with the one on the A side including some old and old style fuzzes. Honestly, it's a bit inelegant though and most of the time I don't set it up . If you have thoughts for incorporating a fuzz face into an otherwise modern pedal board I'd love to hear them. I'm currently just using a Dynamic Distortion in the spot I want the fuzz. From there, I think all of your routing boxes can be a good option in certain rigs, I've just had the good fortune of getting my setup to a point that gear and it's configuration don't need those solutions. Where were these good ideas when I was 20? :)
@peter2712771
@peter2712771 3 года назад
🔥🔥🔥🤘. This is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks Mason for making this video.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
🥰🥰🥰
@Frankyandhisguitar
@Frankyandhisguitar 3 года назад
Can’t wait to build my own. Thanks again!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
My pleasure 🥰🥰🥰🥰
@curtischurch1905
@curtischurch1905 3 года назад
Thanks for the wealth of information. I never fail to learn something.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
🙏🙏🙏
@growlandroll
@growlandroll 2 года назад
These videos are very informative, thank you for uploading them!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
I’m so glad you find it useful
@dominiquecerdan8255
@dominiquecerdan8255 3 года назад
thank you mason the best pedalboard builder for sure
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
Wow, thanks!
@s10belowu
@s10belowu 3 года назад
OH man I can't wait until this comes out. I think I'm going to figure out how to integrate this into my Vertex style patch bay. Luckily I used a larger enclosure to accommodate the extra parts....
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
You should have all the information to make anything you want from mono, stereo, 4cm, wet/dry, and more!
@s10belowu
@s10belowu 3 года назад
That’s awesome thanks for the link I didn’t really dive through all the links yet. I’m a cheap polock so I might make my own buffers and goop them to an old mouse trap LOL
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
This will be about the cheapest you can make them, using all of our diagrams and parts list
@alessiosagrafena7550
@alessiosagrafena7550 3 года назад
Man i love ur channel... always great jobs 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
🥰🥰🥰
@flanderstractor5863
@flanderstractor5863 3 года назад
Great video, as always... ! keep on posting great info please.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
Thanks Flanders!!!!!
@stevemorovek6470
@stevemorovek6470 3 года назад
You are a helluva guy to show us how to do this! THANK YOU!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
Our pleasure!!!
@JazzmasterJonny
@JazzmasterJonny 3 года назад
Thanks for posting this! This type of video is the stuff I love to see!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
My pleasure; hope it helps
@plangan
@plangan 2 года назад
I imagine it gets tiresome answering questions. Just so you know, your responses always put a smile on my face and instills enthusiasm. That's rare man, especially since I have only met you through your videos. So thanks! Is there any wiggle room to experiment with other enclosures for the DIY buffer? Or is this something you'd advise against?
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
I'm so glad! Thanks for watching! You can embellish it however you want. You can mix-match different diagrams so long as you have the right number of jacks to complete circuit. In terms of the drilling, you're pretty locked into this pattern of holes unless you get a bigger enclosure and re-measure your spacing.
@plangan
@plangan 2 года назад
actually I answered my own question as I reviewed all of the diagrams on the DIY buffer page. Perhaps if I only did the Mono dual there may be some room but any of the others that require more than 2 drilled holes, there simply isn't enough room for anything other than the hammond.
@plangan
@plangan 2 года назад
I have a Keeley modded BD-2. I use the diy buffer as an input buffer on this particular rig. Because the BD-2 is a transistor based overdrive, would this make it high impedance and probably should be placed before the buffer? I did review the impedance specs of something I would put before the buffer like a Dunlop JH-F1 (10k, 115-2k) v the BD-2(1M, 1k), which as an overdrive would be placed after the buffer. Am I even looking at the correct figures to determine what should be placed before the buffer? Thanks man. A side note, the inverse of this scenario, I have a reissue op amp Big Muff and it sounds proper placed the same way I do my higher gain drives.
@munkeatphotography
@munkeatphotography 3 года назад
Thanks Doc ! Can't wait to try it out.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
Have fun with it, let us know if we can help!
@97guitarzan
@97guitarzan 3 года назад
Great video! Really nice that you share a way that this can be done.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
🥰🥰🥰
@mikemartin6554
@mikemartin6554 3 года назад
very,very cool Uncle Mason! Great stuff!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
🥰🥰🥰🥰
@AminDehnavi
@AminDehnavi 3 года назад
Thank you Mason. This will be my next project. 👍
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
I’m so glad!
3 года назад
Learned so much from your channel! I'm considering buying some of your pedals! Thank you Mason!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
🥰🥰🥰 we appreciate the support!
@ckjjclan
@ckjjclan 3 года назад
Ugh! I wish I had this a few months ago! I bought a Humdinger (which actually works really well) to use in a stereo setup, but the stereo diagram you have looks to be a more sophisticated way of doing this - I am just going into my mono pedals, into the humdinger, and then out into my 2 stereo pedals out to the amps... I think I may not have thought this through... guess I may need to sell the Humdinger and start over... Great video by the way :-)
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
I think the Humdinger only does split mono - not stereo. The way I showed is the proper way to do a stereo set up with the right buffering on input and output. I think the Humdinger is one buffer only with a split output.
@bryancrawford6513
@bryancrawford6513 3 года назад
Awesome tutorial, thanks Mason!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
🙏🙏🙏
@karl1949
@karl1949 Год назад
You rock brother, thank you Dr.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc Год назад
You are very welcome
@methodinsane
@methodinsane 6 месяцев назад
These videos are gold. Thanks Mason. Q: Are there any cheaper alternatives to the CreationAudioLabs buffers for DIY projects?
@kevinjudson
@kevinjudson 3 года назад
Great and informative....thanx to your videos ive built numerous interfaces ect...however with your downloaded templates even set at 100 percent they come up spaced to close...not a negative....just something ive experienced....dont know why it happens 🤷....keep up the keeping up...great respects...👍
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
If you’re not using the jacks we spec’d then you’ll have a problem. Secondly, if you don’t print out the diagram at 100% scale in your printer settings you’ll also have a problem if you just leave it on default. I use them every week, never had a fit issue.
@kevinjudson
@kevinjudson 3 года назад
@@VertexEffectsInc yes i bought all consumables jacks ect from your link but the problem for me at least is in the template...even set to 100% it prints small but i havent tried altering the orientation?....i wonder if that is the problem...ill try that on next build...this wasnt in anyway a negative comment by the way...just something that happens to me...all good 👍
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
@@kevinjudson I would predict it has something to do with the computer, and printing to scale, it should be centered on each wall, and the lions should line up with the beginning of the edge of the wall of the enclosure. I left a slight amount of tolerance there, just in case you get slight movement when you tape it down, but it should be pretty dead on. Again I use these templates every week, I’ve never had a problem with fit.
@Drtydeeds
@Drtydeeds 2 года назад
I didn't even know buffers were a thing until discovering your channel, thanks for all the tips. I am making my own buffer using your parts/diagrams and I'm a little confused on what you're doing with the green wire that is connected to the guitar input jack. Are you looping it through/around the bottom hole (in the diagram) and then soldering it to the middle/second loop-pole thing?
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
It's connected to two lugs on the input jack so you can short out the input when it's unplugged.
@Drtydeeds
@Drtydeeds 2 года назад
@@VertexEffectsInc Thanks for the replies! Another person in the comments was able to help me understand a bit better - short jumper cable to connect both connections on the jack. I was thinking you were doing it with one continuous wire and couldn't figure it out lol. Thanks uncle Mason for all the great content - you're changing lives :)
@lacgugolator
@lacgugolator 3 года назад
Love it. Thank you!! I will build one for my self. Save me more money!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
It’s a great diy option and superior to most of the buffers on the market!
@ronpatterson5483
@ronpatterson5483 2 года назад
Thank you, great information!! Nice shop too🤘🤘🤘
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
Thanks for watching!
@shannonjones3714
@shannonjones3714 2 года назад
Outstanding video! Thank you for sharing this with us!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
Our pleasure!
@gordonlippincott939
@gordonlippincott939 3 года назад
Great stuff, thanks for being such an amazing resource! I've finally assembled all the components for my interface. I'm actually doing FIVE jacks on each side of a slightly bigger enclosure (1590N1) to incorporate my Komet Ambikab (2 for basic gtr/amp dry path, 3 for the SA Collider stereo wet effects into the Komet). Quick question: does it matter which side of the Neutrik jack to solder the wire to?
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
If it’s a switched Jack like I recommend, yes it will matter
@MrHeliosoul
@MrHeliosoul 3 года назад
Killer video brother!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
🙏🙏🙏
@Azyndevil5
@Azyndevil5 3 года назад
Damn and i just bought the empress stereo buffer. Ill just have to build another pedal board!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
I’m not mad at that!!!
@MAP448
@MAP448 2 года назад
Ty for everything. You're a huge help.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
You're welcome!
@racrboy
@racrboy 10 месяцев назад
@mason sorry for the long comment. I emailed you and your assistants told me to try you here 🙂 You hit on a point I’ve always had in the back of my mind. Tone suck and line impedance. I really started to think about my setup and how I might be able to benefit from stabilizing the input and output of my pedal board. Anyways, I wanted to get your opinion on my signal flow. I think I want to switch out my old TU-2 for a TC Polytune 3. That should handle the input impedance part. Use a TC Bonafide Buffer at the end of the board before going into the amp. Or maybe I can build a mono dual buffer like you have on one of your RU-vid Videos. Note, my “normal” rig I use is a wet/dry/wet stereo rig. Sometimes depending on the band I’m playing in and stage size I might just run a mono rig. The pedal board is the same tho. I built my rig years ago and it’s been “evolving” ever since. In 2006 I had my 5150 head modded by Jerry at FJA Mods. Anyways around that time I really wanted to try and do a w/d/w rig similar to EVH. Long story short, I messed around with it a bunch, figured out a bunch of stuff, and landed on what I’m running “basically” all these years later. My amp has always been fairly noisy. (as most high gain 5150s are known for) Anyways, I run this basic pedal board in front of the amp. Through a bunch of trial and error, I ended up with the pedal layout and signal flow. Over the years, my wah pedal has always caused a bunch of noise when “on”. I’ve used several different wah pedals over the years. I like my Dunop wah and gone back to it. I know that “typically” you want the wah in front of everything in the signal. I didn’t really see a difference in tone/noise and ended up put in after my TU-2. Can you give me any advice and or suggestions on what I can do to get my wah to quiet down and potentially clean up my tone signal going into my amp? Thanks in advance for your help. Looking forward to talking to you. Below is the basic signal flow. I’ve also attached a topology. Signal flow Guitar-Tuner TU-2-Whammy Pedal-Digital Delay DD-5-Dunlop Wah-EVH Phase 90-EVH Flanger-to Rig Rig signal flow. 5150 Head High Gain input-speaker out-Hot Plate attenuator-Line out-split in TC Electronics G Force inputs-balanced outs-SM26 (port 3 and 4)-mixed output into L/R RT2/50 slave amp-L and R cabinets - speaker out dry into 1960 4x12 cab - split in to Rane SM26 line mixer (input 1)
@jimfischer5670
@jimfischer5670 3 года назад
Very cool. I will be building one of these
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
Good Luck!
@gordonlippincott939
@gordonlippincott939 Год назад
I've been using my DIY buffer interface for a year now and I love it. I varied the design a little to include 5 input/outputs so that I can run my SA Collider in stereo into a Komet Ambikab for a wet/dry split. One suggestion... would you be open to sharing the volume pedal schematic similar to what you have with your boost pedal? I don't have the pedalboard real estate for the boost, but it would be awesome and extremely useful to be able to apply the same volume pedal concept directly to the junction box and keep the same footprint. Just a thought. Thank you for all the great rig resources!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc Год назад
Glad it worked out, it's not a volume pedal schematic you're asking for, you're asking for our boost schematic.
@countstoneula
@countstoneula Год назад
You could buy the vertex boost and buy a tall enclosure box and rehouse the boost & your junction box into the new enclosure....to keep the same footprint. You could also just mount the boost on top of the junction box if you have a flatboard. If you have a pedaltrain or something similar you could also mount the boost under your pedalboard. Just some thoughts...
@jabez1409
@jabez1409 3 года назад
Was just about to make a junction box for 4 cable. Now looking for the 9v
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
All the links for materials are there
@philippgrunert8776
@philippgrunert8776 3 года назад
Exactly what i needed
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
Amazing!!!!
@viniciusmarcilio3194
@viniciusmarcilio3194 3 года назад
I just finished my 4CM buffer .. sounds great! But man, it’s really hard to solder the power wires on top of each other in the buffer pcb 😂 Needless to say, i’m don’t have much experience soldering. It was a fun project though. Thank you ;)
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
Nice work!
@Drtydeeds
@Drtydeeds 2 года назад
Would you post a picture some place of how you soldered the green wire from the first buffer to the guitar jack? The diagram/replies here are unclear how you even do that.
@bamagwaldrop
@bamagwaldrop 2 года назад
Have you done a video on making the buffer with added uses…tuner, wet dry wet, etc?
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
Yes, they're all in the diagrams listed here.
@LouxTom
@LouxTom 3 года назад
Really clear and wonderfully explained Mason! Just one question for me personally (and my rig) could you add a tuner out to 4 cable method in a way?
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
Sure just get a bigger box, the 1590BBBK would work
@LagunaPadre361
@LagunaPadre361 3 года назад
ive been waiting for this since the your first junction box video! Thank you so much mason! i have a question about the input buffer/tuner out. could i switch the buffer on that's already in my TC Electronic Hypergravity and have that feed into a splitter for a tuner out the way that you have it split in the enclosure?
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
I would recommend doing the splitting off of the buffer directly to eliminate any loading from the parallel split.
@WayneRandom666
@WayneRandom666 Год назад
I have just build this DIY Buffer Interface with the four cable method and I love it! Thank you for the fantastic video! That was something I was looking for for a long time. I would love to add a green status LED to the buffer interface. But since I am new to this, I wanted to ask if you could tell me what parts I need and how I can add it to the circuit?
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc Год назад
You could add one off of the DC jack. There are plenty of tutorials on adding LED's to your pedals on RU-vid, you can bypass the part about the jack since it's always on with the buffer and the LED isn't an on/off status light with the footswitch.
@johncruz1811
@johncruz1811 3 года назад
Great DIY vid....
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
🙏🙏🙏
@davidmbas
@davidmbas 3 года назад
Hello Mr, Rig Doctor, awesome video. I had mentioned in a video a long time ago how to modify the truetone CS7 to have an extra ice cable. I would really appreciate that! and Thanks!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
Hey sorry, AC power mods are a NO GO. Too much liability if someone does something silly and hurts themselves.
@davidmbas
@davidmbas 3 года назад
@@VertexEffectsInc Understood, I figured but thanks anyway.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
@@davidmbas 🥰🥰🥰
@chadjohnson918
@chadjohnson918 3 года назад
2 Questions. 1) Every diagram shows an amp. Is there a use case for this with a Strymon Iridium to PA? 2) Starting with the audition pedal, can I add 2 stomp switches, 1 to bypass dirty effects and 1 to bypass wet effects with my Iridium in the audition loop as an always on? Effectively turning a few pedals on/off with one stomp switch. I’ve never opened a pedal before except to change a battery so I’m probably out in left field.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
Chad, if you're going out of the Iridium the buffers won't hurt on the output, but you could remove those and just make those jacks pass-throughs instead of active buffered outputs. The input buffer is still critical however. You could attach the audition loop to a footswitch, but the way it's wired here is that it only brings in pedals into the signal path when the pedals are plugged in on the guitar/amp side of the board, and when you unplug it, it normalizes and just leaves the signal in series as though the audition pedal were never there. There are a million ways you could customize this, but I'm showing the most practical and common applications.
@chadjohnson918
@chadjohnson918 3 года назад
@@VertexEffectsInc I built the audition pedal as shown and it's sounds great. Can't wait to put a SSS on my board.
@bensams7481
@bensams7481 3 года назад
These are so great. Would it be possible to add a Stereo / Mono Sum Switch to the Stereo out and what would use for that? Thanks for such great content.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
It’s possible I just do not recommend doing it - it’s a huge compromise and not what most people think it is. You are better off making presets to your stereo pedals that are hard panned L for mono over doing a summation of the L and R. Polarity and internal mixes of each effect create a wildcard that’s not predictable and even when summed can still have negative consequences. Again, you’re better off going out of the left output only of your last stereo effect and setting all of your stereo pedals to hard panned left.
@jeffreylbfd
@jeffreylbfd 3 года назад
Your videos have been an amazing resource! THANK YOU! Question, what temp do you set your soldering iron for basic soldering? I am ordering the Soldering Iron you use, and I do not want to fry any parts by getting it too hot. Cheers
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
It depends on the solder tips, but typically I'm around 500-600 degrees F. Any more will having you going through tips more often than needed with no benefit.
@noisegrrrl
@noisegrrrl 3 года назад
Hello Mason, I've been watching your videos about Buffers, in another one you were saying that the output impedance (going from the pedalboard to the amp) should be around 100ohms. With this it would be around 1MOhm right? Is that a problem?
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
Output impedance at 100 ohms (or around that as a general rule - some exceptions) and the input impedance at 1M. Just like this buffer in the video!
@noisegrrrl
@noisegrrrl 3 года назад
@@VertexEffectsInc oh okay, I thought both buffered jack were at 1M impedance (that's what you say to pick in the document?)
@gregchichkanoff9199
@gregchichkanoff9199 3 года назад
Hey Vertex, as always a great video! Why would you want an isolated nylon jack opposed to a metal jack on the creative pcb jack? I would think the metal would be a better seal for noise.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
Why would it be better for noise? Ideally you want to keep things isolated as much as possible since we can't always know how it's going to be used in the field to avoid possible ground loops not designing this for someone's system that's in our possession. The input is grounded to the case - which is standard the rest is floating.
@gregchichkanoff9199
@gregchichkanoff9199 3 года назад
@@VertexEffectsInc was just thinking it would be a better cage for em not to get in....probably overkill as even my shielded strat still sounds the same 😂
@sarothOCG
@sarothOCG 3 года назад
Excellent video-- I can't wait to build mine! If I power this with my board's supply (in this case, 9V / 100mA), what is the current draw per buffer? Will 100mA suffice?
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
15mA per buffer is the draw, so even in the tri buffer examples it's 45mA max.
@ForgetEverything1224
@ForgetEverything1224 3 года назад
Hi doc. just want to know where should the buffer pedal be place on the chain? or should i use two buffer in first chain and last? 🤔🤔🤔
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
In most cases, the input and the output, there are some exceptions for impedance sensitive pedals. You can watch tomorrow and see exactly how to do it and I also have the diagrams live now if you want to check those out: vertexeffects.com/diy-buffer
@thomasfokas
@thomasfokas 3 года назад
By the way, you’re fucking awesome!!!!! really appreciate your channel and website.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
🙏🙏🙏
@vincelicas2422
@vincelicas2422 3 года назад
love the choice of wearing an apron! very "craftsman" style
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
My wife just got it for me so I felt I had to wear it at least once. It’s actually way easier - I don’t lose my pens and small tools now
@vincelicas2422
@vincelicas2422 3 года назад
@@VertexEffectsInc Well it suits you well. You are crafting amazing board setups!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
🥰🥰🥰
@adam614ce
@adam614ce 3 года назад
The CAL Buffer does introduce a little noise in the signal chain, and I only put one up front, but works really well.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
Something else is wrong if you’re getting noise - not the buffer.
@adam614ce
@adam614ce 3 года назад
@@VertexEffectsInc What could it be? Only hear it when the buffer is powered on. I’ve been trying to figure it out. Its a very slight noise, like preamp noise, VERY low, but it’s there. Isn’t that normal?
@adam614ce
@adam614ce 3 года назад
@@VertexEffectsInc I figured it out, as soon as I stuck the CAL buffer on it’s own isolated power supply noise went away. I was daisy-chaining the buffer and my SP Comp, first two pedals in chain. I figured I could chain them and be fine, but not this time.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
@@adam614ce typically it's OK daisy chaining with other analog pedals, but it's always best to test on a case by case basis.
@adam614ce
@adam614ce 3 года назад
@@VertexEffectsInc Thanks Rig Doctor!
@skeenj
@skeenj 3 года назад
Sent this video to a friend, who is much better with soldering, than i am! He's gonna help me build this. Thanks for all the clear instruction! Wondering, though, what you meant, when speaking of the power range of the Buffer, and you said "it will give it more headroom". What is headroom, with regard to buffers?
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
it won't distort with a lot of signal running into it. For 99% of cases, 9V is fine however.
@stephancano5100
@stephancano5100 3 года назад
Hey Uncle Mason, is there a way to put a Power-Con conector in the interface? Thanks for all the videos!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
You would have to get a 1590BB if you wanted it to sit upright, otherwise it will only be mounted from the side, same as any D-punch out connector. You may only be able to fit 2-3 jacks in addition to this, they're so large. You could also have a noise issue potentially with the AC being so close to the audio signal, but not always, just to keep in mind.
@johnmccauley3238
@johnmccauley3238 2 года назад
Thank you for your videos! I’m a beginner just getting into Pedals and you’ve help me tremendously! I have a question on building the 4 Cable Method. I’m looking at running my Volume pedal after Boost/EQ (following your Signal Path Video). If I have Wah/fuzz/treble boost going into the buffer along with running Chorus and Trem through an effects loop do I need to run 2 buffers or can I simply add another buffer to the 4 cable box and solder it to the buffer output? The new buffer would be the input for the volume pedal. Don’t know if this makes sense. Your help is truly appreciated!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
Ideally you'll have three buffers, one after your impedance sensitive pedals like what and fuzz, one going into the front of the amp, and one on the return of the effects loop. This should be how it's shown here minus the input buffer needing to come later in the chain.
@Shankdv8
@Shankdv8 3 года назад
I think now all I need shown is how to wire a ground lift and a phase switch
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
Originally this was my plan, however I could never settle on a transformer that I thought didn’t impact the sound adversely. Even among the ones used most commonly for isolation, are poor in many conditions, in particular when there’s a lot of signal going through it, it will often distort in the low end, where servos or a Zobel network can stabilize it to the point where it’s workable. This is why in the notes I suggest a specific splitter with isolation for this application.
@RedHeadGuitar
@RedHeadGuitar Год назад
I was hoping you talked a bit about the transformer seen in the thumbnail. I guess that's an add-on for fuzzes to sound good when working with buffers. Can you do a video about that?
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc Год назад
We may do a video on that as well showing how to make your own ISO box. We also have our own buffers now: www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/VBuffInt--vertex-effects-pedalboard-buffer-interface
@Slapdbass
@Slapdbass 2 года назад
Hello Mason. I am convinced buffers are important. But what about for bass, would you recommend them in a bass signal path as well
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
Check out our bass signal paths video...all is explained :)
@JenaGuitar
@JenaGuitar 3 года назад
Thank you very much! Is it possible tu put a volume knob to control the out signal to a split out? I mean, I would split out in A and B. The A is directly connected and the B should have an output volume control. Is it possible?
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
Luca, it's possible, just not an option I show here.
@jeffgreene468
@jeffgreene468 3 года назад
Man...every time I watch one of your videos I get more and more tempted to step away from Fractal. Great content, and great tutorial!!!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
I’m so glad you dig it! Use the fractal for wet!!!!
@4602experience
@4602experience 3 года назад
Fractal only offers convenience and in a stretch, consistency. It’s never about better tone with fractal, at least for me
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
Jeff, Peter and Martin will be your "Tone Sponsors" as you withdrawal from the AxeFX ;)
@4602experience
@4602experience 3 года назад
For that money I’d rather buy a few synergy modules.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
@@4602experience they don't do any wet processing however.
@Cpt_Adama
@Cpt_Adama 3 года назад
Awesome, Thank you. How would these compare to a Pete Cornish buffer though?
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
Pete Cornish uses a BJT Buffer, basically half of it is like a Boss Buffer. I think it’s superior to those, but I don’t think it’s superior to something that has a more modern approach and updates based on what’s available now. I don’t find his buffers to be neutral at all, that doesn’t mean they don’t sound good, that just means that it changes the sound of your guitar and amplifier fundamentally. Also, his buffer is only a single output buffered typically put on the input of a system, there is no output buffering, or any sort of interfacing as you see here. I would put this Creation Audio Labs up against it any day, and it would come out to be more neutral by a long shot if that’s the goal.
@Cpt_Adama
@Cpt_Adama 3 года назад
@@VertexEffectsInc Thanks for the in depth analysis, I appreciate you taking the time to explain the difference.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
A lot of people like it - I just don’t think these people have a good transparent reference point they’re comparing to.
@jamesmharvey
@jamesmharvey 2 года назад
Very helpful video and something I am interested in building myself. I would like your thoughts on the specific buffer and usage for my scenario. My pedalboard starts with a Radial Mix Blender to receive input and independently adjust volume for two different guitars; typically an acoustic and an electric. The output of my pedalboard goes to my amp which is mic'd in an isolation cabinet. Obviously, I can easily send the output back to a return jack of a buffer. My dilemma is on the input side. I could put the buffer after the Mix Blender but I know that buffers really should be the first in the chain. Any thoughts?
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
Is your mixer passive? It might already be a buffer. Otherwise, I'd put it after the mixer if it has two different inputs.
@ruby2thursday
@ruby2thursday 3 года назад
good video! waiting for the klon build! lol!!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
I’m sure those already exist
@ruby2thursday
@ruby2thursday 3 года назад
@@VertexEffectsInc they do...but you're presentation of this kind of material is superior to what i've seen. (don't go getting a big head about it but....it's true.)
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
Perhaps, but for now I’m sticking with stuff that’s not talked about much on RU-vid in terms of tutorials
@09andyleach
@09andyleach 3 года назад
So glad I found this! Based on this, I want to build an interface with a loop for my fuzz and treble boost before the buffers. Should my pre-buffer loop simply involve two extra Neutrik NRJ6HF jacks for send and return, and then I'd wire the signal to go to the first buffer after that?
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
Just put the audition loop up front snd out the inout buffer on the output following the audition loop. Guitar in, send to impedance sensitive pedals return, output to pedals (input buffer)….
@09andyleach
@09andyleach 3 года назад
@@VertexEffectsInc Thank you! I notice that your diagram for the audition loop shows the send and return wired together with the green and brown wires. Is that necessary in my case too, or is that just so your signal still gets through even when there are no cables plugged into those jacks?
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
@@09andyleach wire it as shown
@wolvesandguitars
@wolvesandguitars 3 года назад
Can you expand your audition loop to my house and bring the DGT ???? great video ..
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
😂😂😂
@pierrem6864
@pierrem6864 3 года назад
Hi doc' Very pro and educational, thanks a lot. If i wanna use the DIY stereo box to send to 2 amps, is it enough to ground the case as you showed it through the screws or do I also need a isolated transformer on one of the outputs ?
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
You'll likely want an isolation transformer. However most of the cheaper ones aren't great for this application and the expensive ones are all input transformers and should be located on the amp side, not the pedalboard side. I suggest getting a Lehle P Split and putting it as close to the amp input as possible with as short a cable possible from the output of it if you want to do a stereo rig.
@SeanCorpuz31
@SeanCorpuz31 3 года назад
Great video man. :)
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
I hope it was helpful
@IanEsteves5
@IanEsteves5 3 года назад
Great video! This may be a dumb question, but if I wanted to add phase inversion and ground lift switches to the output, would it just be a matter of wiring in a couple more components, or would it make the whole project way more complex?
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
You would need to add an isolation transformer.
@xXdammitbobbyXx
@xXdammitbobbyXx 3 года назад
Great Content as always! Silly question, do you have a diagram for a 4-cable-method buffer also with Tuner-Out?
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
I don’t because it can’t fit in this box, you could use the same method for the tuner out as in the other diagrams and just add that to the four cable method diagram using a Hammond 1590BB size enclosure
@xXdammitbobbyXx
@xXdammitbobbyXx 3 года назад
@@VertexEffectsInc Ah makes sense, thank you! I am currently using the Mesa Boggie High Wire dual buffer which sounds great. Of course trying to slim down the board/cram more things into an enclosure if it still delivers. The only thing the four-cable / tuner buffer would be missing is a boost :)
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
You could add that with a resistor switching on the output buffer and have it all in a 1590bb box
@theozeus
@theozeus 3 года назад
Amazing! Been wanting to do that for a while! Any chance of a DIY video on how to make a buffered splitter (or a stereo buffer) with isolated outputs (+phase 180°) ? I have an input buffer in my switcher but not on the output, and running stereo with no isolated output which isn't great (one amp gets no ground from the wall at the moment). - By the way, have you ever tried the Providence PEC-2 Switcher? I don't hear much about it in the anglo-sphere of gear and would be curious. It's got a providence vitaliser as an input buffer (does that buffer get the doc seal of approval by the way? I can't find the specs for it but it seems to have a good reputation). Thanks for the great work Mason!!! :)
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
Theo, see the notes on all the diagrams for splitter and stereo rigs regarding galvanic isolation. All of them are huge compromises - and not designed for being inside the interface - they change the tone and add distortion when hit with a lot of signal. Most of the good ones are all input transformers and designed to be at the amp, not on a pedalboard. If you’re careful about keeping your amps on the same ground you can a sound a lot of the issues and if you have a reverse polarity speaker cable you could solve the phase issue with the amp. Or you can get the Lehle P Split which is the iso transformer I recommend.
@theozeus
@theozeus 3 года назад
@@VertexEffectsInc Thank you so much for all of that precious information, it really does help a lot :)
@JopvanSummeren
@JopvanSummeren 3 года назад
Nice! Would adding a mute switch to the version with the tuner out be a good idea?
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
You could add a mute if you wanted to...these diagrams are here for you to use as you wish. Feel free to customize them however you'd like.
@mrjob
@mrjob 3 года назад
Is this the same as the one you used in John Mayer inspired pedalboard?
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
No, not even close, these are full blow buffered interfaces with mono, stereo, wet/dry, 4CM, etc. options. You can see all the diagrams here: vertexeffects.com/diy-buffer
@rudomat
@rudomat 3 года назад
will those buffers sound as well, as the boogie high wires, that you praised so much....? thanks a lot!!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
They’re on par with those but more customizable
@JazzRockswithAdam
@JazzRockswithAdam 3 года назад
Awesome video Mason! Right up my ally. Would I make one with a lower input impedance if you’re putting it after a few pedals in your chain? Or still 1M.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
1M is still fine.
@JazzRockswithAdam
@JazzRockswithAdam 3 года назад
@@VertexEffectsInc Thanks! Is it really complicated to make a box that can do both the 4 cable method AND wet/dry depending on what situation you find yourself in?
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
@@JazzRockswithAdam look at the diagram, I show how to do this.
@JazzRockswithAdam
@JazzRockswithAdam 3 года назад
@@VertexEffectsInc Oh cool, I’ll look more closer next time! 😒
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
@@JazzRockswithAdam the Wet/Dry and 4CM is the same interface wiring diagram. I also put an option there so you can run it all in front of the amplifier if you need.
@johncruz9357
@johncruz9357 3 года назад
I’m getting ready to tackle this DIY project. But, I have one question. Do you think I need a buffer on the send back to the FX loop? In my signal I always have a Catlinbread Talisman on. Do you think the onboard preamp is enough to drive signal?
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
You would want one on the return of the fx loop, not the send if you're talking about a pedalboard based interface/buffer like this project. Depends on what the Talisman output impedance is. If it's low like 100 ohms or so, fine. If it's around 1K, not so good.
@zachvargas122588
@zachvargas122588 3 года назад
Ok so I’m looking at the diagrams to see which one is right for me, so my setup is currently Guitar-Polytune3-Bloom Comp-Tumnus Deluxe-SSS-Dsm/humboldt Simplifier (input)-Simplifier (Send)- Julianna (In mono)(out Stereo)- (Stereo in/out) Mako D1 Delay-Specular Tempus (stereo In/out)-Simplifier (Return left and right)- Simplifier Left & Right Xlr to front of house, Simplifier (1/4” Thru/dry signal) to Vox Ac15. So which diagram is right for me? Just ordered all the parts too :)
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
He will just need the input Buffer, and the output buffer on the side that goes to the amplifier. The stuff that goes into the simplifier I believe is all balanced, so you shouldn’t need an output there.
@zachvargas122588
@zachvargas122588 3 года назад
Vertex Effects Awesome! so I just need to make the one you made in the video!!!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
@@zachvargas122588 easy!
@salemmartinez8738
@salemmartinez8738 3 года назад
Awesome! Thanks for the video! By the way, if I'm using a iridium or a HX stomp and want to add the buffer, should I connect the buffer after or before the iridium or HX stomp?
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
You need an input buffer (first), and an output buffer (last). The output buffer with these systems may not be as critical if it's going direct or balanced out - but it wont' hurt anything and when you use it into an amp, if that happens, you won't have any loss.
@salemmartinez8738
@salemmartinez8738 3 года назад
@@VertexEffectsInc great! Thanks!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
@@salemmartinez8738 sure thing!
@JoshTolbertUrbana
@JoshTolbertUrbana 2 года назад
So I've watched a bunch of your videos...Thank you! There's tons of great info here. I'm a big fan of building my own pedals, cables, etc., so your Rig Doctor videos are right up my alley. However, I'm a bassist---don't hate me, please!---and I've got a few questions. 1) First, is there going to be any difference in buffering needs/requirements between a guitar and bass? Are those Creative buffer PCBs suitable for use with a bass? 2) Input buffers for instruments with active electronics: yea or nay? Complicating the issue is the fact that not only do I have my (active) MusicMan StingRay5 as my main bass, I've also got a (passive) G&L LB-100 Tribute, and an (active) 3/4-scale upright bass that I occasionally use. I know the G&L would probably benefit from use of an input buffer on the board, but my understanding is that powered---active---electronics/preamps in instrument came around specifically to negate signal losses inherent to longer cable runs...So would running an input buffer there be a waste? Would it cause me any harm to run one in line with an active bass? Adding an unbuffered input could be an option as well, but again...Is it worth the trouble? 3) Now we get to go the opposite direction: output buffers. When playing live, most of the time I just run either straight from my bass into the mixer, or through my pedalboard into the mixer, but occasionally I feel less lazy or play somewhere that I know doesn't have good monitoring, so I drag my cab/amp with me. I'm guessing an output buffer would be a good idea for the times I drag my cab/amp with me, but am I going to be causing myself any grief by using an output buffer in front of a mixer? I know that ended up being a lot of questions, so thank you in advance for any info/direction you can give me.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
1) you might want a variable input impedance depends on your bass amp. Bass amps are more variable than guitar amps are. Guitar amps are almost always 1M, where bass can range from 500K to 10M. The buffer however if fine for either instrument you just want a way to set your input impedance. 2) Active electronics don't need an input buffer because the preamp on board is the input buffer, however, having a buffer first won't hurt this and will only help when you switch to a passive instrument. A high quality buffer won't add any noise. 3) If you're into a DI at the pedalboard side, then the output buffer is less critical, but again won't hurt anything at the times you have a long cable run (unbalanced) to your mixing board or interface or if you connect to an amplifier.
@JoshTolbertUrbana
@JoshTolbertUrbana 2 года назад
@@VertexEffectsInc, thank you again. I guess I need to look up what my amp lists for input impedance and go from there. No DI box on my bass pedalboard, although I probably should go that route down the road. Suggestions on good bass DIs? :D
@JoshTolbertUrbana
@JoshTolbertUrbana 2 года назад
@@VertexEffectsInc, I just checked and my GK has 1M imput impedance. I suppose I could just leave it at that and call it good for experimentation. Thank you.
@andreaschristensen86
@andreaschristensen86 3 года назад
Hi Mason. Thank you for another great video - Really good stuff!!! I'm thinking about making one of these buffers for myself. I would like to make one with an isolated tuner out and with an audition loop as well. However I want to use the audition loop for my wah which will go first in the chain. So actually I would hook the audition loop send directly up to the first buffer, right? And then what about the tuner out? can that be hooked up to the same buffer too without affecting the signal? I might be completely off here :-)
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
You can follow all of the diagrams or can bind them in any way that you want. I hope that they’re clear enough where you can use them interchangeably if there’s options that are expressed in one but not in the other. It just may require that you get a larger enclosure, perhaps a Hammond 1590BB as an alternative. If you want it to be isolated, in other words with a transformer, I don’t have a good solution for you if you’re actually going to be running audio through it, if it’s just a tuner out to an actual Tuner pedal that’s not feeding any subsequent devices, then you don’t have any need for the isolation. If you’re going to use it for some sort of re-amp or DI, Then I would look at the suggested splitter that I mentioned in the diagrams, from Lehle.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
For the audition loop, I would only use it in places in the signal path that you can’t easily get to. I would just use the wah as the very first pedal in the signal path and then plug into the input buffer from there. No need to build in an audition loop for this.
@andreaschristensen86
@andreaschristensen86 3 года назад
@@VertexEffectsInc Thanks. But the reason why I wanted an audition loop for my wah is that I don't carry it with me all the time. It's not mounted to my board and I usually have it beside my board plugging it in occasionally when I need it. Would be neat to be able to plug it into the same interface.
@ReverendHellbilly
@ReverendHellbilly 3 года назад
Thanks, you are the best,Cheers
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
heck yea! Thank you much! Let us know if you have questions!
@joshbrown4506
@joshbrown4506 2 года назад
I’m not sure if i am capable of making this, but I desperately need a stereo buffer like this. Guess ill have to give it a go
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
Once the drilling is done, it's all downhill from there!
@joshbrown4506
@joshbrown4506 2 года назад
@@VertexEffectsInc appreciate all your tips, helping me wrap my head around it all! Would be so amazing if you guys started producing these guys! Until then, this is a great new skill to learn i suppose
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
@@joshbrown4506 We are, they'll be out in few months.
@joshbrown4506
@joshbrown4506 2 года назад
Wow thank you guys! I will be your first customer
@petertinning899
@petertinning899 3 года назад
Thanks a lot for this video! I'm almost done with my buffer - but I realized that my guitar jack (the metal one) is a mono version. I believe that's what you're using in the video?? But the diagram shows the wiring of a stereo version. Can the mono jack be used - and if so - how?
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
That's OK, you can still use it as is you might just get some noise when you unplug your guitar from the rig while it's still connected to the amp, but it's not a problem if you don't mind the noise temporarily until you turn off your amp or put it on standby. It's not a stereo jack but a shorting jack that mutes the input when the cable is unplugged.
@mathewvillalpondo8049
@mathewvillalpondo8049 3 года назад
@@VertexEffectsInc so it wouldnt give any noise if we go to standby or turn the amp off first using a mono jack? Looking to make one but itll stay plugged it all the time on the board.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
@@mathewvillalpondo8049 no noise when the rig is connected, it just won't short out when you unplug the guitar.
@AntonovichHicksenbrau
@AntonovichHicksenbrau 3 года назад
I need a buffer for my GigRig G2.,, Running Wet/Dry… Should I build this? Or buy the Mesa Dual Buffer you have also demonstrated?
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
It would be similar to the buffer you would need for a four cable method system, you can’t do this with just the mesa boogie Highwire
@xdoctorblindx
@xdoctorblindx 3 года назад
I'd love to see how to build the buffer circuit itself. Those jacks from CAL cost nearly as much as the Bonafide buffers.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
You're paying for a USA made product, and to make a PCB or buy the parts to do it will be expensive in a one-off situation like this.
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