LS would kill this 383 and Coyote would do good number against this dinosaur also. 4 bolts don't give you any power, it's the heads that make most of the difference and old heads don't flow much!
A 377 sbc, a destroked 400, revs even better than that of a 383. The 383 stroker is a 350 block with a 400 crank, BUT… you get yourself a 400 block and put you a 350 crank in that bad boy, making you a 377, and then you’ll be mopping ALL of the floors without doing any talking whatsoever!!! That thing will rev to moon and back and do it quick, fast and in a fucking hurry!!! I’ve built a few back in the day and they are some little screamers!!!
But the 383 and 400 small block's produce more horsepower and torque and are smaller and lighter than big blocks even the regular iron block's, also the after market blocks are even better
@@marcalampi5036 looking at crates, the likes of 396 and 400 often tend to be forged parts. the 383 not so much..and the price difference is not steep. that said my knowledge is limited
So for anyone wanting to build a stroker 350. (383 is a 3.75 stroke 30 over 350) a common build we do at the shop which is just fun as hell and is a pretty deadly street combo. Make your bottom end stout. Forged pistons. Good rods. Good crank. Forged if you're able to. AFR 220s put 1.6 rockers on it. 232-240@5 500/500lift on 108 Holley 750dp. For efi situations grind LSA on say 110-120. To take it a step further. Go spend some dollars and get a shaft mounted rocker system and put solid lifters in. Enjoy.
@@whodahellru8124 it's also gonna open the valves sooner than later helping fill and evacuate the cylinder more efficiently. Kill low lift numbers on the exhaust with a proper valve job to accommodate for the overlap and you're making more power.
@@joetroy2904 Lol that's immeasurable ignorance. I know there's preferences but it's entirely illogical to dump that much money on something objectively inferior just to have it struggle to be as fast as stock cars that aren't trying.
@@brokenhydra1661 Lol you grossly misspelled "newer" because the recipe for fast still hasn't changed. All the car manufacturers have been doing for the past two decades is try to make the wheel rounder.
I've got a 385 in my 86 long bed. Started as a standard L31. Main caps splayed, did some head work, healthy cam, good valve springs, good intake,long tubes. Built TH350 and 4.11 gears. Had it for years now and it still scares the shit out of me!
imagine a similar motor vortec with a lunati torque cam. long tubes sticky tires. kept the efi and a 4 speed. also the vehicle weighs about half of yours. absolute hoot.
The 383 is an ok truck engine, i mean i wouldnt take it to the track now days. Not when they make factory production engines pushing 1000hp. And there not even built. You could engine swap a smart car, with a puma 100, and smoke these engines all day long.
Ngl for me its a tie. Favorite small block 383 stroke. All the way. Favorite big block 496. BUT Id build it from a tall deck 427 block as opposed to the 454 block. Just for the sake of bein a bit strange
Had a friend of mine with a 383 with AFR alum. Heads and a 6 speed transmission with 3.73 rear. That truck was like a jet out of the hole. Straight up quick!!!
A 383 is a 350 4 bolt bored 30 over with a small block 400 crank. The more you bore the hotter the engine will run. High flow heads low compression pistons h rods and twin turbo with fuel injection. 9.0 to 1 is as high as you want to go 8.8 bolts to handle the boost. Turbo 400 transmission built ford 9 inch or chevy 12 bolt rear end. If you find a small journal 327 and can find a 260 crank you can build a 302 capable of over 9,000 rpm's with twin turbos if built correctly it will give a new Corvette a run for it's money and sound absolutely amazing. But both of those set ups cost more than most can afford to spend whereas a junkyard ls twin turbo charged is actually very affordable.
383 strokers are my second favorite v8 behind the 426 gen2 hemi. 383s put in work, but nothing beats the elephant 426... Thats why it still hold 90% of the speed records damn near 6 decades later....
Yes the 383 can be built to compete with an LS engine. It just takes a lot more money. A junkyard 6.0 with a cam and a nitrous kit would do the same job for less than 1/2 the cost.
That’s what I was thinking lol, any LS with a power adder abs supporting mods with clean house vs a sbc, I love me my old 350 camaro , but even with a fat ass cam and bolt ons my L33 z71 truck with a tune and built trans eats the 4 speed 350 every day of the week
That shit not cheaper. Man just to get a LS put in u gone be looking at about 2k or 3k in Atlanta. You could buy power adders and get your original motor put in for that price an still have money left over. Yall boys gotta stop letting people lie to yall man. Its cheaper to stay original an u can build your engine up to the same power and more
I built a 383 with a regular cam port and polished heads and light weight crank and flywheel. Block and heads are shaved and it pushes 450 foot pounds of torque and sounds like a regular v8 gets about 16 mpg. Daily driven for a long time but I put it in storage. It's in a iroc z with the factory tuned port intake. It will raise the front left wheel about 3 inches when u can get grip I've only done it about 3 times
@@jeffmoleskivintageiceracin5935a sbc will outlast any LS engine. Ls is only better for gas but you can make a SBC or BBC perform better than a LS. Carburators aren't for everyone, idk anything about carburators but someone with knowledge can build a beast .
@@ELPrimoRuben-wi2lkis like to see a stock bottom end sbc hold up to 30 psi of boost .. never happen. The ls a far more stout motor. If you have ever pulled both motors apart and looked you would see the difference
Had a chevy monza with a 383 with a pro-charger that was a scary fast angry small block I absolutely enjoyed spanking hellcats,gt500,and Vette's sold it a year ago smh now I really miss that car.
1997 Tahoe Z71 2 door with a 383 Stroker.....😎, straight axle conversion, 4-wheel disc conversion, and all the off road goodies. It's black and grey with Line-x paint, on 35's, and completely restored inside and out. I have people always offering to buy it, but I will never sale. Built, not bought and nobody can pay me for all the blood, sweat, and tears I put into it.
My first ride back in the day was a 1987 suburban 3/4 ton 4X4. Years later found out that the 5.7 had a 4 bolt main from the factory. Even later, ran into a friend that his dad worked at a nice mechanic shop....and we did a 1/4 stroke upgrade from extra parts his dad had accumulated over the years. Dropped the bad boy into a 1983 square body short bed single cab with a 9" Ford rear end in the back, and a built up power glide trans.... I accumulated many speeding tickets and hatred from the other people at my highschool that claimed to have fast cars. Would do it all over again. Side note: had to assist with all the upgrades done to the beat, no free bees.
I'm glad you said it.. I didn't wanna be the one to say this. I don't think he knows what a stroker is or what that even means. He's going to lose it when he sees a small block 400.. smh
I had a Skip White Performance carb 383. Hands down best motor I've ever had. 505hp and was a reliable daily driver. The thing would start every time, no problem, even when it was 20° out
Yeah it's a beast for sure but my favorite engine is that monster ass 427, now that can't be fuct with. And the most bulletproof engine is that tank ass 454
Bro the 454 is unlikable. My uncle had the one in a squarebody that he used in drag racing. One day while he was racing it lost oil pressure and basically blew up. So instead of replacing it he just put more oil in it, started it up, somehow he was still competitive in that thing later that night. And he daily drove that truck from then on. So basically my uncle blew up his 454 drag racing and after that night was over he daily drove his half blown up 454 😂
Absolutely right 454... Is a bulletproof my uncles an my dad use to built those back in tha days ... mf was bad they r some serious ... When I was 5 are 6 yrs old I watch them races all the time.. 454 is 🔥... like you said 427 is a monster my dad whip ass all the time back then ..I miss those good old days...
Yet everyone into these hellcats and shit bro I got a 2007 Dodge Charger srt8 and I do t plan on trading for bell cat just gonna add little exhaust mayebe some nitrous idk yet cause I got a 99 camaro with ls1 plan on turbo charging it just cause ik these ls motor can easy hold 500-700 hp I’ve seen people do it still daily it n able take track but yeah I do agree those old carb 383 are great might be old but damn good engine
For the price of built 383 you can get a ls l92 6.2 truck engine with a cam, bolt ons, and a cheap power adder. Reliable power up to 700 hp and could even push it to a 1000 Get with the times old man lol
@@isaacsalinas2686that 383 is $4-$5k where as a LS for $200 and a $150 valve spring beehive kit and a BTR stage 2 cam for $450 equals 450-550h] @ the flywheel easy with stock heads and intake as well as bottom end!....and thats the 4.8l!
@@dadcooksfood9956relax I was a youngster when my pops did it my uncle helped him build it he says the grand national came from the scrap yard wrecked with no engine or trans This was way back in 88-89
So, currently in the process of building my 383, Yes it's a four bolt main, even tho most of the old heads told me it doesn't make a difference. Anyway, my setup is going to be more street oriented than anything but I got about $10k in the motor alone, so just a heads up for anybody that's thinking about building one. I don't remember all the specs but I have a eagle street/strip kit (forged internals minus crank, it's cast) A decent cam from Comp Cams, Hydraulic roller rockers/lifters setup, and the super victor II intake. Haven't ordered the carb yet, jury is still out on that lol
Absolutely a LS is 6 bolt main and more than capable of 500+ HP with stock bottom end stock heads and intake with a simple cam and valve spring upgrade!...so basically it'll cost about $4-$5k to get what a junkyard LS is capable of for less than a grand!
Simply put, the Gen II is a cast iron block. It’s going to take way more abuse than an aluminum block. Stock internals could put out over 700HP without failure. And I definitely prefer the sound of a cast iron block engine over a aluminum
@@sixx6sixx107 😂 no it doesn’t. A cylinder is a cylinder and you can get heads for gen 1 small blocks that can flow just as much as any LS head. The generation of engine means nothing as to airflow. They may flow more than previous generations did stock due to head improvements over the years but a set of aftermarket heads can easily fix that. What makes the LS block so great is the generational improvements like the bearing caps allowing the bottom end to hold up to a lot more power.
Never had a 383, had a 355 sbc, and a ford 302, 351w. Love my v8s. I am however, in the process of ls swapping a 90 s10 blazer 2wd with a t56. I kinda regret noth just using an sbc.
@dexos but that's without boost and I guarantee his timing is pretty retarded, he'd have a lot more power if he advanced the timing and used higher octane gas
I built a 377 (the block bore was standard) stroker way back in like 1990 before most people even contemplated it-before everyone became obsessed with turbos and blowers. Hell nitrous oxide wasn't on the streets hardly back then. I use 10 to 1 flat tops a set of 202 fueling heads a big lumpy cam among other things and put it in a piece of shit looking gray primer 76 Camaro and embarrass a lot of people with it. But I had one problem. That engine twisted the body of that car like a rag I did not think to put subframe connectors on because I really had no idea what that engine was going to do to that car. It completely dark the leaf springs so I had to add a leaf so it wouldn't sag down to the ground. It had the body twisted so much that to open the passenger door you had to roll the window down a little bit because it was jammed up in the groove so far and on the driver side the door was just dragging on the seal LOL. I had to scrap the body and it ended up going in a 55 Chevy pickup.
shop i used to work at built a 383 stroker for the shop 1984 gmc van and the techs and I used to burn corvettes and mustangs pulling up beside 🤣 we’d pull back up to the next light and I swear the faces we got were priceless 😭😩
@@sacescout yeah I imagine you're probably the only one that thought they were racing everybody just looked at you and laughed as you made a fool of yourself
@@neilbrown82 bro it’s ok, the gmc van would’ve taken down the little 89 pontiac sc car you got too😂 I can’t even argue with you much because you weren’t there to see what was even next to us, wish you the best bro no lie. 🤞🏽😂
I just bought a 350 with a 4 bolt main and I've really thought about what to do with it but adding a 400 crankshaft new heads and cam sounds like a good start
In terms of budget a 4 bolt main 350 stoked to 383 is great. But high compression and a power adder means some expensive ass gas. Id say whats better is a 2 bolt main 400sbc machined to accept 4 bolt splayed main caps and either run that as high compression OR destroke it to a 383 which lowers compression and lets you run more boost 👍
Y’all new kids are some dumb shit, my high school friend had a 383 on alcohol in a Malibu, that car made right around 700hp, flat tappet cam, no boost, custom headers, nothing super special. Ran low 9’s
Got a fully built 383 bottom to top in a 67 chevelle. 3 spd on the floor automatic sadly not manual but threw the muncie in a 41 Hudson truck with the 283 from the chevelle. 3spd gets it done
I remember spending $800 to have my 1971 00.10 350 built into a 383 stroker. ( That was in 1996) Use forged Pistons. Spend more get more. I made the mistake of having billet pistons. Blew it up 600 miles after being broke in and ready to drive. The Cam 2 made holes in every piston. I Trashed my new stroker like that. Like I said, never go cheap on a high performance small block.
I’ve got a 355 that an old head built right before he died, it was for his personal truck. It’s more than enough to catch tickets at every red light, has 2 carbs so I don’t skip gas stations
If you listen to him, he's giving options. For high compression builds with topend kits. Which means pieace your motor together because it's gonna cost. An you can turn some rpms just like Nascar did for how many years NA!?!? 🤔 Knowledge is power. He paused then gave ANother option for power addeders which means other combinations. Lol...YESSUS!!!
@@voodoochild7232 ah nice! I had the same year. And automatic and a coupe in the teal color, tan interior. Such a sick car, I was so sad when i got hit and it was totaled. Made the mistake of buying a modded Audi, and as much fun as it is, it breaks down every weekend. Plus I really miss havin one of America’s very own Walmart brand supercars. Vette’s are special cars.
12:1 is beginner level on a small block. 14:1-15:1 is common in circle track and nothing abuses an engine like the roundy round. Oh and the last 360 sprint small block I screwed together made 800 hp NA on alcohol mechanical injection with class legal small 2.5” throttles in the injector stacks. In race tune it was actually detuned to just over 700 hp but the real number we were looking for was torque around 550-600 ft-lbs A small block chevy will make torque an ls can’t
You are absolutely correct. Try a "dinosaur" transmission too. The infamous 2 speed power glide. It's sick nasty. My 71 Impala was a land yacht. That big ass car did whoop some ass. Until I blew up the 383. Never go cheap on building these strokers.
The four bolt/two bolt main doesn’t matter if it’s built correctly you can extract the same power it just has a better chance of living under higher power with 4 bolts. The small block Chevy also doesn’t breath as well as the LS and to be honest it’s in the heads of the LS that is where the biggest performance increases come from. An LS is way easier to build also it just is. Unfortunately the good old small block isn’t as easy to find anymore, an LS is in everything. Idk but I still love the older small block trust me I do!
@@monsterdong7520 yes sir! I bought it at a junk yard but striped the motor completely and sent it to get machined Got the heads ported and redecked Ported and machined the block
@@true5.012 its obviously a joke people have gone just as fast with less hp then 1900 grubbworm makes 1300 and is barely off by a tenth with a junkyard engine from the 90s... 2003 fourm 🤣😂🤣😂 your dumb to think that.
For those of you who are building cars with saving about 100$ a weak for your car. I recommend gasser drag racing. Thier the cheapest racing community besides being a average street car
@@BIGmil20 no all you would need on the coyote is a fuel system and turbo kit or blower whatever. All is needed is fuel system/injectors depending on the year coyote/mustang
That 13:1 compression ratio sounds just wicked crazy exhaust noise. I had a friend in high school build a Chevy 302 with 12.5:1 compression ratio and a light weight flywheel and damn was it one bad ass little S10 with a complete frame swap with air bags equaled a total sleeper on the streets of Phoenix.
Shorten the stroke on an ls7 make it rev to the moon and back keep it naturally aspirated with a rpm of 8500 it’ll make 800 horsepower and sound like a demon
I'm loving the comments from the "new school" of thought in this conversation. No School Like OLD SCHOOL. No combination better than a 383 with a 871 sitting atop that little mountain of motor. They weren't called big block killers for no reason. Lol
An Eagle head gen 3 Hemi will stomp all y’all. 330 cfm from the factory. With just a cam, engine masters was able to extract 496 hp out of this motor. With moderately upgraded valve springs the engine would have made over 500 hp, naturally aspirated. When I get my custom heads made for my Ford 300 i6 I will be patterning the heads after these Eagle Hemi heads. Yes it will indeed be a Hemi, and it will be a cross flow head, and yes it will be turbocharged.
My friend is building a 383 for his 57 Chevy, it's going to be a beast , I had to go a little cheaper , I'm putting together a destroaked 350 , it's a 331 now and it is. 4 bolt main block I plan on spinning it up a little and I'd like to add boost of some sort just not sure which way I'm going to go with it , but it ought to scream
With good fuel it's possible to run 15:1 or more compression BUT the fuel and timing have to be set correctly. Musi was running 17:1 in his big blocks back in the 90's
@@christianvradenburgh994 what's your definition of good fuel? Because I doubt even premium (90 octane) is going to be enough for 15:1. Regardless there are two elements at play here for the gas engine and only one for diesel engines. For a gas engine you need to be concerned that your octane rating of the fuel can handle the level of compression and two the cylinder pressure at TDC. When you have added the turbo to the mix on a high compression engine your TDC pressure is seriously going to spike and that extreme pressure can destroy engines. IF you are going to run high compression you need to keep boost fairly low, nothing crazy. If you want to go crazy with boost and have your engine last you drop the compression ratio and up the boost. With a gas engine it's all very complicated and must be figured with the math for the octane rating of your fuel. This is related to why big blown engines often end up running on alcohol. With diesels it's the same except you don't have to mess with the fuel as that part is simpler but in a constant high boost situation you still want low compression. Your engine will last a lot longer. Think marine build engines of the 90's had 18:1 ratios. That same engine in a truck was 21:1. We found those engines actually worked well in trucks too as long as your environment wasn't too cold for starting.
It's just a 4 bolt 350 with machine work and a 400 crank if I remember. They were the biggest bang for your buck 20 years ago. .im a Ford guy but definitely respect the 383 builds
@@Tap_rack5.56 you will spend almost the same building any engine at this point. Can get a short block complete for 7,900. I just built a 588 that makes 950hp for about 10. You will spend at least 9 on a decent small block unless you just want a 400 hp putt putt
@@Tap_rack5.56 the problem right now is parts. Everything is impossible to get and 2x the $. Don't take offense to it its just for what you are going to pay maybe grab something used off racing junk and freshen it up. Probably the best bang for your buck. I race on a very tight budget myself so for me to make affordable power I got a short block from Ohio and used all my top end on it. I think the small block stuff is cheaper than the big Block stuff. They make good pump gas stuff 2.
383 is really not that small in the grand scheme of things. An LS3 that's a 6.2 L is only 376 in. So when you think about it 383 is really not that small !!!
2 different animals... An LS design is completely different than the original SBC... U just can't stroke an LS.... Whereas the SBC can be up & Down stroked... I have a great. 377 inch SBC that will rev to 9k. All day long...
You can stroke an ls. I don't remember displacement of a 5.3 stock but it becomes a 383 when stroked a 6.0 is a 364 and becomes a 408 and 6.2 is a 376 and becomes a 416
I just enjoy people who are passionate about what they do and they know what the fuck they’re talking about and you can’t hide you know it’s like you either that or you’re not that I happen to not be a car guy but I appreciate how you deliver
400 crank in a 350, balance the crank, rods, pistons, stud the mains, big flow heads, dual plan hi rise intake with a stout 4150 Holley 750cfm, go drive and grin!🇺🇸😎💥
You know he doesn't know what he's talking about the moment he says 12:1 then starts talking about forced induction, you're going to blow your heads sky high doing that. On top of that once you're in the 12:1 compression ratio range you're already running race gas so at that point you might as well bump it all the way up to 14:1 and make some real power. The 383 is a great motor and can make some real power but pound-for-pound on a dollar for dollar bill the ls tends to still be the reigning champ
Yes that's why everything in the world now has a LS of some sort in it.add a $500 JUNK EBAY TURBO and all of a sudden you got a easy 1000hp.i think not🤣😂
