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Building a Die to Forge a Custom Bolt Head 

Keith Rucker - VintageMachinery.org
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We broke a special bolt on th 1890's Sawmill at the Georgia Museum of Agriculture and had to make some new ones. To keep the repair as authentic as possible, it was decided that the best way to do it would be to forge a special bolt head instead of trying to machine it. So, in this episode, I will show the process of how I made a custom die that was used to forge the heads on the bolts.

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@Barnagh1
@Barnagh1 Год назад
Fantastic job, great to see somebody caring enough to go to all that trouble to make the exactly right bolts rather than compromise.
@jimzivny1554
@jimzivny1554 8 лет назад
Great job, nice video. It's good to see things being repaired in our throwaway world.
@pnwRC.
@pnwRC. 4 года назад
100% agreed!
@ianforfun1
@ianforfun1 4 года назад
Keith Rucker has the worlds best job! Vintage machinery and steam locomotive, what a combination and really appreciate the thought process in figuring things out.
@ramosel
@ramosel 9 лет назад
Keith, wow! I think I just put my thumb on my fascination with the work done by you, the other Keith, Tom, Paul S and Adam . In today's world of CNC you can have anything made... for a price. But in this simple demo you made something not "off the shelf" with a hunk of scrap and a few bolts. It may not be lost, but it is a dying art. Thanks for preserving this, both literally and on video. I know you are gearing up for ARNFest this month. I live just down the road a couple miles from Colfax, CA. Colfax Railroad days was this past weekend celebrating 150 years of trains in Colfax. Got some shots of the recently restored (computerized) and still in service, SP rotary snow plow and Flanger. I'll email them to you.
@user-yp9pc3rh6k
@user-yp9pc3rh6k 8 месяцев назад
Nice job! Regarding the bolt production sequence, I think I would set the bolt into the die about one inch high and LIGHTLY grip it with the die for heating. This way you can heat the die a bit at the same time you ate bringing the bolt blank to forging heat. You then loosen the vice to drop the bolt into forging position, tighten the vice and commence forging. This allows for maximum heat at forging and eliminates cooling of the blank while setting it into the die. If re-heating is required to complete forging, just loosen the vice, raise the bolt, heat, loosen the vice dropping the bolt, re-tighten the vice and resume forging. This method allows for a hotter blank at commencement of forging, and has a side benefit of getting the job done faster.
@dannyl2598
@dannyl2598 Год назад
Thanks Keith. "Always forging ahead"
@davidmotoman4956
@davidmotoman4956 6 лет назад
Very interesting to see how you went about making the Die . Impressed Keith as always with your Ability to solve a problem
@davidreaid5700
@davidreaid5700 9 лет назад
You're a hard working man Keith Tucker! I hope everyone appreciates you great efforts. David, over in Ala.
@VintageMachinery
@VintageMachinery 9 лет назад
+David Reaid Thanks David - I get lots of thanks from my great viewers as well as from the museum!
@thomasaxtell6948
@thomasaxtell6948 3 года назад
Hi Keith. If put the bolt in the fixture a few inches high and snug the vice then you can heat the top of the bolt to red hot, loosen the vice and toe bolt will slide down to the stop, tighten the vice and forge the new head.
@CornishMiner
@CornishMiner 9 лет назад
A really good video Keith. Always admire that you take the time to do a job properly, and end up doing a really worthwhile repair as a result.
@VintageMachinery
@VintageMachinery 9 лет назад
+CornishMiner Thank you - I try real hard to keep my repairs as authentic as possible when I am working on things at the museum.
@rickl.orchids
@rickl.orchids 9 лет назад
....never tire of watching your shows, Mr. Rucker, .......always great projects or repairs lined up, excellent workmanship, and explanations as you progress. Thanks for taking the time to share with us........Rick
@VintageMachinery
@VintageMachinery 9 лет назад
+Rick L Thank you Rick - it is my pleasure!
@leviathan2385
@leviathan2385 9 лет назад
I always enjoy watching how you so creatively solve problems unique to all that wonderful vintage machinery, but I gota tell ya that steam whistle blowing in the background upstages you every time. Thanks for another great video Keith.
@VintageMachinery
@VintageMachinery 9 лет назад
+Mynard Mayne Everybody loves to hear the steam whistle for sure!
@jeffryblackmon4846
@jeffryblackmon4846 6 лет назад
That is a very nicely done project. Thanks for showing us how you did it.
@emilbeeg4550
@emilbeeg4550 6 лет назад
Good work Keith. Necessity is the mother of invention.
@userunavailable3095
@userunavailable3095 5 лет назад
That just goes to show that if you are willing to fix something well every time it breaks, you can keep it in service practically forever.
@daki222000
@daki222000 9 лет назад
If you still have to do the other bolts, Maybe you can heat them raised in the vice. It'l heat the die at the same time. the you can just loosen the vice and let them drop down. It ill probably make you do them in one heat. Nice project and video again, thanks.
@VintageMachinery
@VintageMachinery 9 лет назад
+Flip de boer Some others have suggested that as well. Brilliant - and so obvious that I am embarrassed that I did not think of it myself!
@why647
@why647 9 лет назад
+Keith Rucker - VintageMachinery.org I 've watched some of your older vidoes and decided to subscribe
@zwz.zdenek
@zwz.zdenek 8 лет назад
+Flip de boer He could do that, but it won't be possible to do it in one heat anyway because he has to hammer the spurs back together to have the right amount of material.
@davidcallista8618
@davidcallista8618 6 лет назад
+1 but as always, to each his own.
@herbhartman7528
@herbhartman7528 3 года назад
Good job Keith, if you don’t have them, forge them!!
@johnstrange6799
@johnstrange6799 9 лет назад
Interesting to see the original design solution for a unique scenario of fastening between rack peaks like that. A contemporary replication of what worked for a over a hundred years, as opposed to trying to reinvent the wheel is in itself an admirable form of respect in regards to preserving the historical legacy of fine craftsmanship. In fact, it's perhaps that extra mile of detail that is at the very heart of a long enduring legacy of fine craftsmanship.
@VintageMachinery
@VintageMachinery 9 лет назад
+John Strange Thanks! When doing restoration work, I try real hard to create new parts that are as close to the original ones as possible, down to the materials and methods used in making them. Sometimes, it is hard to do this when you see an obvious way to improve a design, but I try to resist that temptation unless there is some very good reason to do so (safety usually being the one thing that might overrule an original design if there is something really dangerous with the original).
@ElectricGears
@ElectricGears 9 лет назад
I thought of a couple of modifications to that die would make it easier to produce the bolts. 1) A deep counter bore in holes that slide on the roll pins would allow you to fit some springs over the pins that would open the die for you. 2) Place a block on top of the stop you clamped to the vice screw. This lets you heat the bolt held loosely in the die, then drop it into place by removing the block. 3) If you're replacing all the bolts, clamp the torch to a stand that would allow you to point it at the bolt head, then swivel it out of the way.
@VintageMachinery
@VintageMachinery 9 лет назад
+ElectricGears All very good suggestions!
@charlescompton4495
@charlescompton4495 9 лет назад
Very interesting; It makes the mill area self sufficient if another breaks plus if someone with a mill like that one breaks bolts you can use that for a demonstration... well I meant in person and not on a video. Thanks, Greg
@VintageMachinery
@VintageMachinery 9 лет назад
+Charles Compton We plan to keep that little die in case we need more sometime down the road....
@goptools
@goptools 9 лет назад
Nice repair job, Keith! Pretty cool using modern equipment to make antique parts. Maybe someday when the sawmill is running you could snap a little video of that. I think it would be interesting to see. Thanks for the video! -mike
@VintageMachinery
@VintageMachinery 9 лет назад
+goptools I am working on a sawmill video....
@gdglock
@gdglock 8 лет назад
Nice repair. Making use of the tools that are available. Time is money.
@VintageMachinery
@VintageMachinery 8 лет назад
+gdglock Thanks!
@clifffiftytwo
@clifffiftytwo 9 лет назад
Great video - the die was a lot of work but the bolts you made are works of art - brought a smile and make me want to get out in the shop. You balance thorough video presentation with clear narration very well.
@VintageMachinery
@VintageMachinery 9 лет назад
+Cliff Miller Thanks Cliff, it actually was not that bad to make the die - a couple of hours of actual shop time.
@shawnmrfixitlee6478
@shawnmrfixitlee6478 9 лет назад
Great black smith quick work Keith ! Thumbs up man
@VintageMachinery
@VintageMachinery 9 лет назад
+ShawnMrFixit Lee Thanks Shawn - not sure that it really qualifies as blacksmith work, but kind of I guess!
@pnwRC.
@pnwRC. 4 года назад
I wish I had the ability to make parts like you do! Several times I've found my self cobbling things together with hand tools, ( file, hammer, torch, grinder, &/or a dremmel tool) but they do function as I intended them to.
@kentuckytrapper780
@kentuckytrapper780 3 года назад
Job well done, custom fit.
@Tuitjemobiel
@Tuitjemobiel 6 лет назад
For the next time......put a block on top of the stopblock, heat the bolt in the dye, remove the extra block, the bolt fell down on the stopblock and you don't have to remove the bolt with two pliers.
@dillydallydollcomachineand8246
Mr. Rucker,That was awesome !!!! Great job .My Best As Always ,Tighe
@VintageMachinery
@VintageMachinery 9 лет назад
+tighe hall Thank you, my pleasure!
@W0mpa
@W0mpa 9 лет назад
Great work as usual!! Love to see some serious blacksmithing!
@VintageMachinery
@VintageMachinery 9 лет назад
+Thomas Wallblom Not sure that this qualifies as "serous blacksmithing". I am hoping that this winter I can do a series of forging a knife from a file. A blacksmith/knifemaker friend has told me he is going to walk me through the process once it cools down some!
@michaelschnock5547
@michaelschnock5547 9 лет назад
I really like the repairs you made . thx from berlin, germany . go ahead like this and thanks for all of your videos.
@VintageMachinery
@VintageMachinery 9 лет назад
+michael Schnock Thank you!
@glennsumrall9602
@glennsumrall9602 Год назад
Good Work
@Shirrif
@Shirrif 2 года назад
Solid job well done!
@ErnieNoa3
@ErnieNoa3 9 лет назад
Very cool fix job!
@stephenreeves9025
@stephenreeves9025 9 лет назад
you do excellent repair work and are quite the contortionist Thank You for all you do.
@VintageMachinery
@VintageMachinery 9 лет назад
+Stephen Reeves Thanks Stephen, although my contortionist skills seem to be getting worse the older I get....
@Mulletsrokkify
@Mulletsrokkify 9 лет назад
Very nice work Keith!
@AmateurRedneckWorkshop
@AmateurRedneckWorkshop 9 лет назад
Nice bolts and a great video. Thanks.
@VintageMachinery
@VintageMachinery 9 лет назад
+cerberus Thanks!
@joncraw29
@joncraw29 9 лет назад
Keith,I really enjoyed the video, and appreciate the mindset that where another person might have simply ground off a bolt head so that it would fit, you took the time to make a more authentic piece.Throughout this video, as in some of your other videos, I found myself thinking that with your calm, measured, common sense approach to each challenge, and the very clear method by which you explain each new step, that you'd make a truly outstanding high school shop skills teacher; those would be some lucky kids!On another note, I think that it is a truly wonderful service that you're providing to the museum. Several times I've heard you say that you work there as a volunteer; I can only assume that you are doing that as a labor of love. I also assume that the museum, like many others, must operate on a very tight budget. Have you given any thought to creating an account such as Patreon or another such donation account so that those of us who truly appreciate the fine work that you do, as well as the service that the museum provides in preserving a part of our American heritage, can donate to? I'm sure that many of your 38, 180 subscribers would love to help support your efforts.Sorry for the long-winded post, but thanks again for what you do!
@VintageMachinery
@VintageMachinery 9 лет назад
+Jon Crawford Jon - Thanks for the very kind words. While I have never taught high school, I worked many years for the University of Georgia as a County Extension Agent. While my main area of work was working with farmers, one of the things that I always enjoyed was working with the kids in the 4-H program. Even though I have moved on to another job since those days, I still make time to do some 4-H work even now. My wife is a high school teacher so I do get to be around kids quite a bit. My "work" at the museum is indeed volunteer work - I have a full time job outside of that work, so my time is limited, but it is truly my passion and I get great joy out of helping the museum. As for donations, I did not start my RU-vid channel as a money maker - it was started as a way for me to share the little bit that I know with others so as to help preserve some of this old school technology. With that said, we do have a PayPal link on the VintageMachinery.org web site where people can donate to help keep that site running and some of those funds have helped me purchase new video equipment and such to keep the RU-vid stuff running as well.
@williamhardin5254
@williamhardin5254 9 лет назад
Great video Keith. I see your getting that ready for cutting some of those logs into lumber for that new workshop. GETTER DONE!
@VintageMachinery
@VintageMachinery 9 лет назад
+William Hardin We have cut a good bit of the lumber already but still have a long way to go to get it all finished. Working at that sawmill all day long is real work.....
@CraigOakes_au
@CraigOakes_au 9 лет назад
Another great video. Thanks for taking the time to make it. What might seem simple to some, can be clever for others. Cheers.
@VintageMachinery
@VintageMachinery 9 лет назад
+Craig Oakes Thanks Craig - just my approach to solving the problem at hand. The great thing is that a dozen other people would have probably done it a dozen other ways, and as long as the end result is fine, they are all correct!
@josephmagedanz4070
@josephmagedanz4070 9 лет назад
Interesting video, Keith. Thanks. They say for riveting, you should leave about 1.5 times the diameter sticking out. That looks about like what you did. Anyway it came out very nice. Thanks for sharing. Joe
@VintageMachinery
@VintageMachinery 9 лет назад
+Joseph Magedanz My method for determining how much to leave out was trial and error. Fortunately, I got good results the first time so I did not have much error. That usually is not how things turn out....
@allenahale1
@allenahale1 4 года назад
@@VintageMachinery I just finished watching the video and was trying to figure out how much bolt length was required to form the head "properly". As an engineer I first thought that you calculated the volume of the formed head and then used the calculated volume to be above the die before the first strike. Your way "experience" and "Trial and error" worked just fine. LOL
@RoelTyros
@RoelTyros 9 лет назад
Hello Keith, Nice to see a workshop video and interesting that you also showed where the repaired piece is going on the machine. Always beautifull to see those old machines and how they did in fact the same as in this time. Only thing that has changed is the way they make machines and perfect-ionized old technology. Anyway, thanks for the good video and many greetings from Roel !
@VintageMachinery
@VintageMachinery 9 лет назад
+RoelTyros Thank you as always!
@jerrylong381
@jerrylong381 9 лет назад
Nice video Keith, Thanks for sharing.
@VintageMachinery
@VintageMachinery 9 лет назад
+Jerry Long Thank you - a quick and dirty solution to the problem at hand!
@phooesnax
@phooesnax 9 лет назад
Great episode! Surprised you did not have to chase the other volunteers away while all of this was happening. Really nice job!
@VintageMachinery
@VintageMachinery 9 лет назад
+phooesnax I was in the shop pretty much by myself all day long that day.... Today, I had visitors every time I turned around!
@1stage
@1stage 9 лет назад
This was great! I can just imagine some gearhead carpenter working on this 100 years ago with hand tools.
@VintageMachinery
@VintageMachinery 9 лет назад
+Sean Harrington I for one would have liked to have been around back then to help them work on this stuff with them!
@MikeBaxterABC
@MikeBaxterABC 4 года назад
Thast would be when the first Millwrights, created themselves! :)
@JackHoying
@JackHoying 8 лет назад
Nice job on the die and making of the new bolt heads. Definitely looks like a two man job when you make the rest of them to keep from having to light and shut down the torch so many times!
@VintageMachinery
@VintageMachinery 8 лет назад
+Jack Hoying A lot of what I do would be easier with an extra hand. I really need an apprentice.....
@jesselawson1169
@jesselawson1169 4 года назад
When I do stuff like that I use a smaller torch tip, and I have a pipe holder that the torch fits in welded under my bench. I hold the metal under the flame then go straight to work and leave the torch run while I hammer, fast and east to get a re-heat. May be slightly more gas but saves lots of time
@moya034
@moya034 4 года назад
love the steam whistle in the background
@PeterWMeek
@PeterWMeek 9 лет назад
Love that "MITEE" cutting oil. (about 11:40) My favorite dark sulphurated.
@VintageMachinery
@VintageMachinery 9 лет назад
+Peter W. Meek Good old heavy cutting oil. You can't beat it!
@jackmoulton9284
@jackmoulton9284 9 лет назад
I learned a lot on how to make a simple die that works. Thanks.
@VintageMachinery
@VintageMachinery 9 лет назад
+Jack Moulton Thanks Jack. In a production situation, this would not cut the mustard, but for what we needed, it was a quick and dirty solution to a problem at hand!
@kevgermany
@kevgermany 4 года назад
Thanks. Really interesting to see how this and so many other parts you've made at done.
@joepriebe6068
@joepriebe6068 9 лет назад
Enjoyed the video, thanks for all your efforts. Just a safety suggestion: on the bolts holding the lead blocks down, shorten the bolt ends, if someone falls and lands on one they have a 2" deep bullet hole in their chest possibly fatal.Thanks much, Joe
@donaldnaymon3270
@donaldnaymon3270 4 года назад
Awesome job. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and skill.
@tosborn56
@tosborn56 8 лет назад
Reminds me of the "shoe bolts" that Ben Thresher forged from carriage bolts for attaching iron shoes to the full moccasin runners on the farm sled he built in the documentary "Ben's Mill" many years ago. Great job!
@VintageMachinery
@VintageMachinery 8 лет назад
+tosborn56 "Ben's Mill" Now that is a great little documentary! I used to have a VHS tape with that recorded on it and at one time converted it to DVD but have not watched it in many years. I can remember watching that when I was probably a young teenager and what inspiration it gave me! Ben Thresher is still one of my heroes!
@tosborn56
@tosborn56 8 лет назад
+Keith Rucker - VintageMachinery.org I thought you might have Seen "Ben's Mill" at some point and that it would have inspired you. I watch the copy I have every once in a while. Sometime back I saw that there is a website and a project to restore the mill. You might want to take a look. Google "Ben's Mill."
@petergregory5286
@petergregory5286 Год назад
Hi Keith, Many, including myself enjoyed this video. One thing I wondered about was if you should have trimmed the ends of the bolt threads used to secure the lead weights. There seemed to be enough tripping hazards in the area to make the bolt threads hazardous if you fell on them. Regards
@FredMiller
@FredMiller 9 лет назад
Great segment Keith. Nice approach to solving a tricky problem. Thanks for sharing... Fred
@VintageMachinery
@VintageMachinery 9 лет назад
+Fred Miller Thanks Fred! This one was an unexpected project that came up and was fun to think though and then work though making the die.
@railfan4394
@railfan4394 9 лет назад
Keith: Pre-heat the die just like you have done. Place the cut-off bolt in the die, sticking up about 2 inches. Snug the vise. Apply heat to the bolt to the orange state. Then loosen the vise and the bolt will fall in place without extra handling. Tighten the vise and pound away. Saves a few seconds of handling and keeps it hotter longer.
@jusb1066
@jusb1066 9 лет назад
+Railfan 439 ahh, a time and motion man, next you will be firing half the machine staff and making them do it twice as fast :} yeah im sure he realised at some point, he was only making 10 so it wont matter now, i too would have done it your way!
@sandrammer
@sandrammer 9 лет назад
+Railfan 439 Exactly the advise I was going to write. It is imperative that the heat be maintained at white hot temp. so that the material is as plastic as possible while the head is being formed and pressed into the die via the hammer. If it starts to put off sparks before it is hit you shouldn't heat it much further. As a molder heating up a mass of iron in preparation for pouring, I know that the metal is about to melt once I see the sparks start to fly. Still, Keith, very much enjoyed the Blacksmithing.
@VintageMachinery
@VintageMachinery 9 лет назад
+Railfan 439 That is actually an excellent suggestion! I still have some more to make so I will sure give that a try. So obvious, I don't know why I did not think of it. That is the great thing about RU-vid!
@martineastburn3679
@martineastburn3679 3 года назад
Great job done ! Suggest you consider a cover for the lead. Keep it from leaching out with oak sap into the ground or hands... Just a bent metal cover.
@jcs6347
@jcs6347 9 лет назад
Thanks Keith! Great video as always.
@VintageMachinery
@VintageMachinery 9 лет назад
+JC S Thanks!
@murraystewartj
@murraystewartj 9 лет назад
Another great video, Keith. Always interesting to see you make the tools to do the job. What I appreciate most is your attitude - even a bolt head that no-one will ever see gets done right because, well, you'll know it's correct. That's the mark of a true craftsman in my books. Thanks, and keep 'em coming!
@VintageMachinery
@VintageMachinery 9 лет назад
+murraystewartj It is the little things, the fine details, that makes a good restoration. Those things are important to me.
@ianbutler1983
@ianbutler1983 9 лет назад
Another great video. By the way, your videography, audio and editing are excellent quality. Always get excited when you post a new video. Thanks,
@VintageMachinery
@VintageMachinery 9 лет назад
+Ian Butler Thank you! I try hard to produce a quality product, but I still have a lot to learn when it comes to the video side of things....
@MattsMotorz
@MattsMotorz 9 лет назад
Awesome video Keith, I don't have any experience in forging so this one was particularly interesting to watch. I also had the same thought as Flip de boer. It would have been a great idea to raise the bolt up, heat it, then have it drop. At any rate, I definitely learned something! Thanks!
@VintageMachinery
@VintageMachinery 9 лет назад
+MattsMotorz Yeah, Flip and a couple others mentioned that. So obvious that I am embarrassed I did not think of it myself!
@thomascoughran1374
@thomascoughran1374 9 лет назад
Great job!
@vajake1
@vajake1 9 лет назад
Great video. I was wondering how you were going to forge those angled shoulders! I learned a lot from this video! Thanks for posting it!
@VintageMachinery
@VintageMachinery 9 лет назад
+vajake1 Thank you!
@outsidescrewball
@outsidescrewball 9 лет назад
Enjoyed the video Keith
@VintageMachinery
@VintageMachinery 9 лет назад
+outsidescrewball Thanks Chuck!
@garyc5483
@garyc5483 9 лет назад
Nice job of making the die for the bolt head Keith. Pity the blacksmith had a day off. Just a tip:- turn off the acetylene 1st then the oxy' and you will not get black smoke at both ends of the heating process. :-) regards from the UK
@VintageMachinery
@VintageMachinery 9 лет назад
+Gary C Yeah, I know better but sometimes just forget....
@bensthingsthoughts
@bensthingsthoughts 9 лет назад
Well done... One of the greatest repair video I have ever seen... But I was expecting to see the sawmill in action :) Anyway keep the good work !!
@VintageMachinery
@VintageMachinery 9 лет назад
+Ben's things & thoughts I am actually working on a sawmill video for sometime down the road. I have about half of the footage needed for it shot and it is partially edited. Problem is that when we are running the sawmill, there just is not a lot of time to shoot video and give comments as to what is going on. So, I have been doing it a little here and a little there....
@youpattube1
@youpattube1 9 лет назад
Another very interesting project. thanks.
@VintageMachinery
@VintageMachinery 9 лет назад
+youpattube1 Thanks!
@daleyurk4369
@daleyurk4369 9 лет назад
Keith, fascinating video. I'd love to see the mill in operation.
@VintageMachinery
@VintageMachinery 9 лет назад
+Dale Yurk I am working on a dedicated sawmill video. It has been hard to get all of the footage that I need because when we are running the sawmill, things are pretty hectic and it is hard to stop and set up a camera shot.... And since I am usually my own cameraman, it is hard to do both things at the same time.....
@akfarmboy49
@akfarmboy49 3 года назад
I like the quick die
@dalmatiangirl61
@dalmatiangirl61 7 лет назад
Nice work Keith! My only suggestion would be to cut the excess length off those lead weight bolts, they are an impalement hazard.
@jonhare392
@jonhare392 9 лет назад
Love your power ratchet handwork!! :-)
@VintageMachinery
@VintageMachinery 9 лет назад
+Jon Hare Quick work!
@aserta
@aserta 9 лет назад
That's a nice head die. Also made me realize i have a half of one in my metal scrap parts, never figured what it was :) it doesn't have alignment pins or a shoulder, so yours is fancy.
@VintageMachinery
@VintageMachinery 9 лет назад
+aserta The alignment pins and shoulders are just fancy accessories, but they sure do help!
@aserta
@aserta 9 лет назад
Keith Rucker - VintageMachinery.org I bet they do, awesome job and the end result shows that.
@williampugh6699
@williampugh6699 5 лет назад
Interesting and ingenious.
@pitu72ger
@pitu72ger 9 лет назад
enjoyed, keep it up Keith!
@VintageMachinery
@VintageMachinery 9 лет назад
+pitu72ger Thanks - I plan to keep them coming.
@silverbullet7434
@silverbullet7434 6 лет назад
I agree with flip raise them up in the vise , heat to red loosen and plop then tighten and beat them flat . To me any operations , much quicker and less chance of getting burnt .
@whitneybennett9045
@whitneybennett9045 9 лет назад
very nice work, love it, enjoyed every minute, thanks
@VintageMachinery
@VintageMachinery 9 лет назад
+Mars Mahoney Thank you!
@robertkutz
@robertkutz 9 лет назад
keith very interesting video.
@VintageMachinery
@VintageMachinery 9 лет назад
+Robert Kutz Thank you!
@charlescompton4495
@charlescompton4495 6 лет назад
Now I know why you were having a hard time getting the bolts in. The first time I watched I didn't notice you were using a carpenter's hammer to tap the bolts in! No wonder! Just kidding; you did a fine job on the die and very interesting video, Greg.
@larrysperling8801
@larrysperling8801 9 лет назад
nice job keith.very creative, i'm sure in a couple of hundred years some restoration technician will try to figure out how you made those bolts using your "primitive" manual equipment.
@VintageMachinery
@VintageMachinery 9 лет назад
+larry sperling It will be easy for somebody to figure out how I did it 100 years from now, - all they will have to do is go back in those really old RU-vid archives and watch it being done.....
@horneygeorgeforge7079
@horneygeorgeforge7079 4 года назад
Im told that heating or welding Zink is not good for your health ! I found the easiest & safest way to remove the Zink is to soak the pieces in a week acid, I found that Vinegar takes about 24-32 hrs. rinse with water and your good.. I hope this helps !
@RobertKohut
@RobertKohut 3 года назад
Nice! Great work... :-)
@r6exrider
@r6exrider 7 лет назад
what a hunk of steel for a table. that's the kinf of table you dont ever move. haha
@PeterWMeek
@PeterWMeek 9 лет назад
My background is Cold Heading. Interesting to see it done hot.
@VintageMachinery
@VintageMachinery 9 лет назад
+Peter W. Meek If you had the proper equipment, this could be done cold. But it sure does go quicker hot!
@morrisgallo2361
@morrisgallo2361 9 лет назад
Another great teaching video. Thanks for your efforts. Might you have run the bolt from the top down and using "C" or "J" clamp position and hold the rack, then remove top-loaded bolts and apply from bottom? Would give you the extra man.
@VintageMachinery
@VintageMachinery 9 лет назад
+Morris Gallo That very well would be a good way to go about it!
@shade38211
@shade38211 9 лет назад
Term we use with shoddy workmanship up north is " half-ass". Gotta come up with new term for u, maybe overkill. Great job and very entertaining as always.
@ChrisB257
@ChrisB257 9 лет назад
Nice work Keith - inspired in fact!! Great video. :)
@VintageMachinery
@VintageMachinery 9 лет назад
+ChrisB257 Thank you - glad that you enjoyed!
@juanrivero8
@juanrivero8 9 лет назад
This was a lovely video. I am impressed with your die. Of course if you had a production run you could use a hydraulic press (I saw a guy in Talkeetna do exactly that) but the hammer works just as well. This thing is a sort of nail header. It does make me wonder how they would make dies like that back in the 19th century. Before mills were common. File by hand? Ouch.
@VintageMachinery
@VintageMachinery 9 лет назад
+Juan Rivero In a production machine, hydraulic pressure or some other kind of mechanical pressure would likely press the hot end into the die rather than beating on it with a hammer. Much more efficient and much faster. But, overkill for just making a few...
@ralfb8869
@ralfb8869 8 лет назад
what would the museum do with out people like your self, great work and very informative as always.
@VintageMachinery
@VintageMachinery 8 лет назад
+Ralf Boyke I am not sure what I would do without the museum to have to have a place to go and do all of this stuff!
@chadgdry3938
@chadgdry3938 9 лет назад
ugh, I wish I had a job like your. Coming to work to make something old new again..
@VintageMachinery
@VintageMachinery 9 лет назад
+Paul Gdry I wish I had a job like this as well. My "real job" is something else. My volunteer time at the museum every weekend is what keeps me sane....
@sandrammer
@sandrammer 9 лет назад
Just happened to think...You may want to have your Blacksmith temper your bolts. The way you worked the bolts there will be some interstitial stresses that will benefit from a bit of stress relieving. A session of heating up the bolts and a proper quench will add years of use to the bolts. By the way, you could replace "interstitial" with "intergranular" and it would be about the same concept.
@VintageMachinery
@VintageMachinery 9 лет назад
+sandrammer I basically let them cool off slowly in the air rather than quenching them to keep them from getting too hard. This should give something between a hardened and annealed state.
@sandrammer
@sandrammer 9 лет назад
+Keith Rucker - VintageMachinery.org Hope you're right but I suggest you keep an eye on the bolt heads. When you heated up the ends of the bolts but didn't heat up the rest you manufactured a debarkation zone where two different states existed. THEN you formed the bolt heads by deformation and work hardening making the debarkation zone more pronounced (larger/softer grains where less heat was applied and smaller/harder grains were formed where the material was heated then work hardened). Of course if the bolts aren't under any unusual stress there's nothing to be concerned about. In time the cyclical nature of its' job will allow the crystals to change and the starkness between the two areas will be lessened. Foundry work and Blacksmithing are considered two sides of the same ancient coin.
@zwz.zdenek
@zwz.zdenek 8 лет назад
+sandrammer That would be at its worst if that area happened to lie at the shear-line between the gearing and the wood. If he heated it up enough to make the line recede to where there is only a wooden hole, I believe it wouldn't be a weak point.
@sandrammer
@sandrammer 8 лет назад
+zwz • zdenek Time will tell.
@frankpiazza953
@frankpiazza953 Год назад
Keith, great job. I’m wondering about softening the bolt. Did you regarded the bolt?
@marceltimmers1290
@marceltimmers1290 9 лет назад
Hi mate.I was thinking the same as Flip de Boer. At the same time the block would also be heated. Sometimes your just too close to the project, that you don't see the other ways of doing it. I'm the same, I'm too fixed in how to attack a project.
@VintageMachinery
@VintageMachinery 9 лет назад
+Marcel Timmers Yeah, so obvious.....
@johngormley2192
@johngormley2192 6 лет назад
Would like a video of the mill in action.
@tombellus8986
@tombellus8986 9 лет назад
Looks like you could use an apprentice when you are making those new bolts. If I lived closer I would give you a handand then there would be 2 of us huffing and puffing. Enjoyed---------- thanks
@VintageMachinery
@VintageMachinery 9 лет назад
+Tom Bellus An apprentice, assistant, helper, whatever you want to call it, would indeed be a nice thing to have around the museum!
@alial-abduljabbar1767
@alial-abduljabbar1767 9 лет назад
nice
@VintageMachinery
@VintageMachinery 9 лет назад
+Ali Al-Abdul Jab'bar Thank you!
@fordsure
@fordsure 9 лет назад
gotta carry that dip errywhere ya go!
@Hotrodelectric
@Hotrodelectric 9 лет назад
Do you have an idea of what causes the bolt to fail? I can see the need for that lead weight, watching that rack bounce as you add weight/.
@VintageMachinery
@VintageMachinery 9 лет назад
+Hotrodelectric Not sure what caused the failure. To my knowledge, this is the first time that has ever happened. Probably a combination of rust eating away the old bolt and a bit of end to end movement in the rack as it is being used wearing it until it failed.
@Hotrodelectric
@Hotrodelectric 9 лет назад
+Keith Rucker - VintageMachinery.org Yah, I was thinking corrosion combined with slop and the original replacements weren't well fitted. Of course, now that you have good replacements, you'll never need another one to the end of time.
@randallshular5362
@randallshular5362 6 лет назад
Well. After watching this video, I got just one 4 letter word to say, C O O L.
@stevewilliams2498
@stevewilliams2498 7 лет назад
Did you forget to open out the holes in the wooden frame to accept the new larger diameter bolts ? or did you want the "tight fit" ?
@g.r.4853
@g.r.4853 3 года назад
OK, which is heavier, a pound of steel or a pound of lead?
@Spott07
@Spott07 9 лет назад
You shouldn't feel bad about the "modifications" to the sawmill. The way I see it, a similar mill operating in the 1900's-1910's (if that's a valid historical estimate) would likely have had similar modifications for similar reasons, so while the modifications aren't "Original", they're probably "historically accurate". A side question: Would it have been beneficial to file the edges of the transition between shank and head in your die, to produce a smooth radius? Does the head get driven tightly enough into the die that it would make a difference in the finished bolt? And is there clearance in the rack for it to fit if there was a radius there? I know that parts are weaker if they have sharp interior corners, as stress can be concentrated there and start to "tear" the material.
@VintageMachinery
@VintageMachinery 9 лет назад
+Scott Anderson The biggest thing is that the head needs to fit the holes that they go in. If there were much of a radius at the transitions, I don't think I would get a good fit. I do think it would be better, but we have to make them fit....
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