A clean tone doesn’t have to be CLEAN, it can be dirty, its your CLEAN tone, not a clean sound, but your clean tone, your clean can be whatever you want. Plus yeah its an orange amp, they don’t know what a clean sound is lol
Cheapest guitar, cheapest amp, cheapest pedals, recorded with the cheapest interface and monitors and mixed/mastered in Audacity with only stock plugins?
@@DerrickRG anybody who wants to actually hear what a guitar/pickup/pedal sounds like through an unaffected clean signal. He has the same crunch tone for even his serious gear reviews and it's annoying as hell
If you're testing shit on that amp it's basically impossible to show a "clean" tone. Pedal demo's on anything other than a clean ass fender twin or the like are just not gonna be objective :/
Good call on using a pro ax/amp setup. If they sound good on a good setup, they sound good, if they sound shitty on a crappy rig, you don't know if it's the guitar, the amp or the pedal that sucks.
This is a totally giggable board for like $125 bucks. What can I say, I'm impressed, I build pedals and I can't even make them for that cheap. Forget trying to sell them for $25. Budget gear has improved by light years since I started playing. (I'm old)
@@someirishguy1662 More fact than opinion. "Cheap" gear is catching up drastically in terms of quality and I feel like more and more people are realizing that the more recognizable brands are trying to sell you the same stuff at a 500% markup. But at the same time many people are willing to pay more for perceived higher quality/status.
The only thing is....Ryan Burke is a TERRIBLE guitarist. Well, that...and he isn't a gigging musician...nor, does he have any clue what he is talking about (which makes him extremely annoying, and less relevant for those seeking a professional review). I'm always amazed that he is even relevant. Has to be that damn good name, for a gear review channel... His success is akin to that of Honey Boo Boo... It is based on the idiocy of the general masses.
@@joshuaquery6382 I agree. He seems like a nice guy but he manages to get the WORST tone possible from anything he touches(I.e. He loves the horrible velcro rip fuzz from the cuvave.) all while seemingly missing the concept of the general consensus and instead of building a board that is an all around general board he builds it to be weird as shit and suited to like 10 seconds of some obscure song that he'll never play live anyway. Never take board building advice from a non gigging guitarist. Dude's got his head up his ass and I'm thankful that fluff is getting into the cheap pedals.
@@williamlockhart8420 lol the guy plays surf music. All you guys are really weirdly angry. Like just don't watch his content? Lol instead your in a youtuber's comments belly-aching about another youtuber.... Jesus Christ guys...
I was just looking at the pedal selection at wish.com and they have some neat and very affordable stuff. Somebody is selling Klon Centaur clones and there is a custom Tube Screamer clone.
people don't realise the effect of getting good speakers either.. I wired up a 12 inch Celestion to my little practice Marshall MG 15 watter and it sounds incredible..
I wish he played around with the tone a bit more, only cause I've been interested in a fuzzface 60's psychedelic style fuzz pedal and I think that could be something I'd get just to try it. From what I've seen it seems like some people love fuzz and other people hate it, and then within the people that like fuzz they only like certain kinds and hate other's
That's awesome! So If I order the same set up from Wish today, I can probably have this pedalboard ready to roll by the time bands start gigging again next Fall 2021
I've never heard "good for price" anywhere but the internet every musician I know irl just says, its good, or its shit. There's 30 buck pieces of gold out there and 200 dollar pieces of shit when it comes to pedals in my opinion, it can really go either way. I know someone who has a vintage tube screamer that he spent a couple hundred on and to me it sounds exactly the same as the Electro Harmonix clone I got used for 40 bucks
Roy Waren josh from JHS pedals compared a Behringer TS808 Clone with a vintage black label tube screamer and concluded they were identical. I bought one and sure enough it's awesome.
If you don't mind plastic housings, Behringer makes some interesting clones for hella cheap. I listen to a lot of death metal/grindcore, and have been hunting for a Boss HM-2. Most of them fetch a CAD $250+ price range on Reverb. I found the Behringer HM-300 for like CAD $25 and can barely hear a difference.
If you didn't know, TC is now owned by behringer and make non-plastic versions and variations of all good behringer pedals for just a bit more money. They have 3 different hm-2 clones including one literally called the Eyemaster.
Note writtent a 13:00 : I can tell the delay is based on a Deep Blue Delay, PT2399 internal chip based. Love how the repeats are very "lo-fi" and degrades even more after a few repeats, with very few highs and lows, sounds very dirty and analog, and very simple and sturdy construction.
I've got a few of the smaller inexpensive pedals and they're a lot of fun. My favorite is the Donner Noise Killer noise gate. Most of these pedals are made in the same Chinese factory and rebranded by several companies. Donner, Mooer, Tom's Engineering, etc... Someone on RU-vid disassembled them and found the guts to be the same, just different painted housing. It doesn't matter as long as they work. The other question is would you gig with them. I would. I'm not a pedal snob.
Thank you fluff for exploring into the mini pedal market! I have two mini donner pedals (chorus and delay) and they are fantastic, the rest of my rig is full size. I think for cheap pedals, donner is the leader.
I noticed several Chinese-made brands of pedals on Aliexpress have similar names and identical color schemes. "US Dream" is a pink mini pedal with identical controls from the brands: JOYO, Naomi, Kmise, Saphue, and unbranded. There are two case styles, the molded Joyo one and a generic metal box used by many others. I suspect they're all the same circuit. And the aluminum box one is potentially all made in the same factory and labeled with whatever brand you'd like. When I was in electronics class (many, many years ago) we could build a lot of classic pedals of the 80's (and some 90's) with some off-the-shelf components on a breadboard to try it out. Some classic pedals require components that aren't made anymore to be identical. Some can be made pretty darn close with some simple substitution, especially if you hand pick parts from a bin (like measuring the Alpha of a transistor, something a decent volt-meter can do)
I agree with using the gear you want to use to a point, but the "real world" application for these pedals is like on someone's first board. Possibly someone without much money to spend on gear
Okay, two cents from me that no one asked for. 1. Picth shifter. Sounds okay ish in octave below mode, but pitch shifters in most multi fx units still sound cleaner to my ear. So I'd pass on that. 2. Fuzz. Nope. I mean, yeah, it does sound like a certain fuzz pedal, but not the best circuit choice. They could have replicated almost any fuzz for that price, but chose this one. Hard for me to imagine a song where it would fit perfectly. 3. Overdrive. Not a fan of orange amps with (or without) anything in front of them, so can't judge that one objectively. 4. Phaser. Yeah, I also have one of those cheapo phasers with very slow rate, probably even the same circuit. But Phase90, Small stone and Boss phasers are already cheap enough, so why bother with it? 5. Delay pedal. This one sounds absolutely fine! But no tap tempo, presets or midi clock sync. So unless you have one of these for every song in your live set on a board, it's kinda useless? 6. Reverb. Some of those settings sound really fun. But lots of low mids in every preset and it doesn't have low-cut knob... so tons of unnecessary mud in your live sound, I'd rather leave it off all the time. So, I wouldn't pay $150 for that. And this board is also missing a tuner. I think one or two decent used pedals from Boss/MXR/EHX would have waaay greater value than this. Sorry for a grumpy comment!
I would like to see a serious look at a board for beginners, I bet that there are a lot of guys with just a small combo amp that will never play outside the house. (Fender Mustang or Boss Katana types) What would you actually suggest for a value/budget pedal setup?
I am going to say this, I have been buying up some of the Joyo pedals, and I am completely impressed with them. It took me some tweeking to get the sound dialed in right to my amp, I had other guitarist I jam with looking at my pedal board wondering how I get my overdrives and distortions and they were thrown back thinking I was using either TC Electronic, pigtronix, or MXR. I was iffy when I was given the Joyo Crunch Distortion pedal. But the metal house and once I dialed into something I liked I have no regrets. Also it is easy on the wallet.
I have a few cheapy pedals that sound great...but the catch is usually either a little extra noise/hum, or the switch pop. Noise suppressor helps that. Mooer makes some great stuff.
I'm still using my Nux overdrive i got off Wish for 20 bucks like 3 years ago. Does what i need it to do, i have no complaints about its performance. Are there better pedals out there? Fuck yea. For the price? I'd like to hear other $20 ODs sound this good. Even handles bass rather nicely. These cheap pedals are perfect for bedroom rockers, but some of them actually do really well at stage levels.
The Rowin phaser might have been slightly underwhelming with the variety of effect but it did it well. One pedal in their lineup that surprises almost everyone that I know that have tried it is the noise gate. I have a Zuul, Pigtronix Gatekeeper micro , and an EHX Silencer and the Rowin holds it's own. Being that the Rowin pedal is by far the cheapest in that array, that's saying a lot.
Th e OD, and phaser weren’t bad and at that money I might use them if I were building a board on the cheap. I didn’t care for the fuzz but I’m not a big fuzz guy anyway, same thing with the pitch shift but that is just my preference I don’t use one, don’t own one and have no plans to add one but it did what they are supposed to do. The reverb was not great in my opinion and the delay just kinda sounded like a cheap delay to me. On a separate subject I am glad your channel popped up in my recommended I’m really enjoying your content, thanks for doing it man.
Some of them were great: Pitch shifter is really good, Fuzz was ok, not my style fuzz, but decent for what it is), OD sounded pretty good, Phaser was ok, liked vintage mode, did not like modern, Delay was decent nice warm analog style delay, The Reverb.....hmmm well technically it was awful, in that the sound quality was poor , sounded grainy and artificial...BUT in a really cool Lo Fi way. Reminded me a bit of the Caline Snakebite verb pedal (which I own, its about £20/$25) which is a great low cost Lofi ambient verb, but it has a grainyness to it, which usually would put me off but in this instance added a cool character
Back when I used to play live I didn't have a pedal board my "cheap" pedal board was a old DigiTech rp50. I played alot of shows on that pedal and it was great for the money and durable
Good video dude! I about died when you told everybody to save the crybaby comments about you using your high-end guitar and amp. That’s something I would do! LOL 🤣🤣🤣
My early guitar playing "career" would have been very different if there had been $20 pedals like this in the mid 90s. I would have also been way more broke than I was.
It's all your fault, Fluff! I'm now digging Wish.com. Just picked up an $8 USB interface that allows you to plug straight in. Stoked! Oh, and Renton in da house!
Ducking (you have no idea how many times my phone autocorrected that to a ride word) is not like a reverse reverb. It compresses the reverb to "duck" under the sound of the dry signal, for example in solos. But fun video.
I can send you a chinese gate which generally works, but.. it boosts the signal at 12-18db. But... it depends what you run after it. I guess its something to do with the resistance. It looks as this Rowin Phaser, but its a Rowin gate. I compared it to ISP and others and... it works. And i did not even need a TS in front of my preamp)
Cheapest decent club rig. Not cheap for cheaps sake but something to practice twice a week and a show on a weekend a couple times a month. And maybe flyrig no multifx?
Sounds great for a beginner or home guitarist. I'd be terrified to take them to a show though. There's enough troubleshooting on my board with "quality" pedals that have always worked 99% of the time, then crapped out that 1% of time they just let me down.
I thought the switch on the phaser would be for feedback. But it sounds like its a 2 stage/4 stage switch. Could be a good alternative to the Phase 95 👍 It blows my mind how few 2 stage phasors there are out there!
Damn, Fluff. Thanks. I've seen a lot of Wish ads with pedals, pretty much laughing at them. No way is a 20€ pedal going to even work. Apparently they do.
Thank you for not using garbage equipment to run those pedals into. It's honestly a better way to show how well these pedals can shine, because even a high end boutique pedal is gonna sound like shit, through shit equipment.
When you test these pedals. I don't think you know what a clean channel actually sounds like. I think we'd like to hear a nice crisp CLEAN channel that's not distorted, then hear what each one sounds like. There's always that breaking point where it turns into a "touch" of distortion, then you add pedals. Granted, this is what most people will do, but let's hear the actual pedals.
