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Building a Spot Welder from a Microwave Transformer! 

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I think this project may have been on my list since I was in high school: rewiring a microwave oven transformer into a potent spot welder. I came up with an Arduino-controlled system that lets me do everything from tacking shim stock together to welding on nuts and studs. This first part is just the assembly and testing. The next part will be a more detailed look at how I machined the parts. I'll upload all of electrical schematics and code up to my Patreon as a freebie!
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@hermanushulsen9151
@hermanushulsen9151 5 лет назад
You can control the input voltage with a motor speed controller connected to the primary winding that will give you some control.
@SodiumInteresting
@SodiumInteresting 3 года назад
nice channel name. I'm a new subscriber im hopefully building one of these with a toroidal transformer. im getting 760amps at 2.7volts from uk 240vac. waiting to fix my lathe so I can get machining things again...
@bendude6748
@bendude6748 5 лет назад
This is nice, I'd make one but I don't trust myself not to get electrocuted somehow in the process lol!
@mrsurplusbangbang1857
@mrsurplusbangbang1857 3 года назад
Yeah same u gotta have knowledge of what not to do
@AKAtheA
@AKAtheA 5 лет назад
FYI you CAN spot weld aluminium if you use a thin piece of steel between it and the electrodes... Personally I think it might be possible to make this better by using tips with small tungsten carbide insterts on the ends, as it's not a good electrical or thermal conductor (heats up well when current flows through it), but is far more resilient then steel, so it would last a lot longer.
@am1rb
@am1rb 4 года назад
the Fotek ssr that you use has a ‘zero-crossing detection circuit’. This causes the relay to wait until the current it is controlling reaches zero before shutting off.and similarly wait until the mains voltage crosses zero volts before switching on, therefore you can control the pulse duration of your spot welder only with a resolution of 10mS (assuming 50Hz mains ) - there is no point to set times in resolution of 1mS , the welding pulse can be only whole steps of 10mS . e.g. 10 20 30 40 ... mS etc.
@dzozepe
@dzozepe 3 года назад
I also got a stainles steel table. So basically now i have a solid supply of stainles steeel. MAAAAN that got me :D
@murzabaev
@murzabaev 4 года назад
Current on the secondary coil is already limited by the battery cable’s diameter. So thick (more diameter than your battery cable has) copper rails are kind of “overkill”. But in general, good explanation and try. Thanks for sharing your design
@pch4287
@pch4287 5 лет назад
Nice video.Congratulations
@Steve_Just_Steve
@Steve_Just_Steve 6 лет назад
Nice work. I think those copper bars may be just a lil' overkill though..... I can't figure out why not just use the extra couple foot of 2 AWG to run to the electrodes. Then you could've just used wood instead of huge copper bars. At least that's how I built mine. I'm all in on no kill like overkill but damn that huge copper bar ain't cheap! Thanks for the vid.
@TabletopMachineShop
@TabletopMachineShop 6 лет назад
Yeah I've seen lots of people use wood, and that actually seems like a really good material to use because it isn't conductive. As soon as I told myself I wanted to make one out of metal it got way more complicated :P. I'm hoping that the big copper bars let me use electrodes I couldn't have gotten away with using wood. I also may experiment with a higher force closing mechanism down the road that would make good use of the beefy copper bars. I think we agree about overkill though :P
@andrewwaters2354
@andrewwaters2354 6 лет назад
What a great build! Loving your videos! Where did u acquire this copper bar? ;)
@Steve_Just_Steve
@Steve_Just_Steve 6 лет назад
Michael- I used wood on mine, It's actually just like his except wood arms with wire ran to electrode instead of arms. I've never once even thought there was the slightest possibility of it catching fire. I'm have no idea how it would even happen, really don't think it's even possible. If it is you'd have to make a big mistake and for an unrealistic amount of time before you could get the wood to slightly smolder.
@davidliddelow5704
@davidliddelow5704 6 лет назад
If people don't already know you can get toroidal transformers on ebay fairly cheap, you don't have to sacrifice a microwave.
@xenonram
@xenonram 6 лет назад
David Liddelow It's usually cheaper/easier to get to a broken microwave. A lot of people have one kicking around the house.
@EricMonroe7
@EricMonroe7 6 лет назад
Yeah, even a nonfunctional microwave usually has a good transformer.
@davidhoward2237
@davidhoward2237 6 лет назад
if the microwave is broken there no other reason not to open it. Around here there plenty people throw microwaves away. IF did work i wouldn't put in my house cockroaches love magnets. Fix some spelling because of the smug asshole atheist down below me also he is from down under and think he is so SMART!! just google his name.. he so smart he doesn't need to google any information,
@davidhoward2237
@davidhoward2237 6 лет назад
im dyslectic so my spelling not the best also i don't give a fuck if i spell it right if you get enough of information i rather be illiterate then a fucking dumbass who cant fucking go do a basic google search for info i can post the many website about it. Cockroaches use the magnet fields to steer a simple fucking google search can give you information. Thats why if you ever try to get rid of them they are always will be microwave and refrigerator not only because there food it because magnet fields. You sure are idiot who can do a search google search and think there so smart!!
@davidhoward2237
@davidhoward2237 6 лет назад
ohh you are the type of person think your so smart then other the smug atheist, you may be a good spell but full of shit i mean just reading this shit who would go brag and think there so smart My first memory of anything relating to atheism is thus: My parents, (who are both staunch atheists), made we offspring walk to the local Sunday-School, so that they could be "alone" together. It was a free child-minding service. I soon got kicked out for asking too many hard questions! The sunday-school teachers were mainly 17~18 yr old girls, who tried to convince us that god must exist because of the beautiful flowers, birds & trees around the church. I naively asked something like: "Did he create those slimy slugs & centipedes and bacteria?" and "Who created measles and polio, miss?" She was flummoxed.i was four & a big bit years old, and never looked back. FOR FUCK SAKES I RATHER NOT BE ABLE TO SPELL THEN EVER FUCKING WRITE THAT BULLSHIT!
@Demoni696
@Demoni696 6 лет назад
Great project and video! Having a pneumatic closer would probably help with constancy because of repeatable pressure. I like the little holes on the copper bars, they totally could be used to add extension cables for welding tabs onto lithium batteries.
@TabletopMachineShop
@TabletopMachineShop 6 лет назад
Ya pneumatics are pretty much perfect for this because of the constant force you can apply. Depending on how the over-center spring works, I may move up to a motorized system eventually. I'm actually planning on making "handheld" electrodes for tough to reach places, so those would probably work well for batteries!
@TheRainHarvester
@TheRainHarvester 4 года назад
@@TabletopMachineShop Don't the secondary wires need to be bigger than the 1" copper bars?
@howardtoob
@howardtoob 2 года назад
Did you remove the shunts? Does removing the shunts do anything more than offer additional room for the secondary?
@gioraver
@gioraver 2 года назад
I'll be nice try DC capacitor discharge spot welder o this mechanical setup
@qaisarawan93
@qaisarawan93 4 года назад
nice video I tried to follow along with it and bought a used MOT, the seller connected ac voltage to the primary winding (thin wire side). And it created humming sound. At home I removed that side and when I connected ac to the secondary side it created smoke and smell and became very hot to touch. Seems like the Secondary was already short? What you say? Also Now can i rewind it using suitable size enameled wire? Will winding it with slightly thinner wire be ok for spot welding?
@TabletopMachineShop
@TabletopMachineShop 4 года назад
Hi Qaisar, First off, be careful! I really can't make recommendations for what's safe and what isn't, I don't know what voltages you're dealing with or anything. The secondary winding might have been shorted, but if you plugged it in with only one winding you probably overheated the wire. Theoretically you could re-wind it, but again, be careful!
@qaisarawan93
@qaisarawan93 4 года назад
@@TabletopMachineShop there was no winding in the secondary ( actually the primary side of original transformer from which coils were removed.). So could it be the reason that there were no windings on one side and I powered it up? Immense thanks.
@edgeeffect
@edgeeffect 6 лет назад
There's so many people doing this project, if I watch them all... I'm going to get the best info. Yours looks pretty good with machined parts and all... and you cut the primary out "properly" :) To adjust the power, have a look at Alexander Hartdegen's (he's my current "other favourite") ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-MUId45iUrO8.html
@TabletopMachineShop
@TabletopMachineShop 6 лет назад
Oh cool, his was definitely an inspiration. I thought it was neat how he used the transformer as a chassis... I don't know if I could get away with that though lol... too clumsy. His power adjustment seems to work quite well. I just blew the relay (apparently switching large inductive loads isn't as easy as I thought) so perhaps power regulation is the way to go
@TheRainHarvester
@TheRainHarvester 4 года назад
@@TabletopMachineShop How did you fix the circuit to not destroy the relay?
@HuskyMachining
@HuskyMachining 5 лет назад
I have wanted to make one of these for welding thick nickel strips to batteries for making bat packs.... this was helpful... I might need to make a beefier transformer though.... nice video
@TheRainHarvester
@TheRainHarvester 4 года назад
Me too. Did it work?
@HuskyMachining
@HuskyMachining 4 года назад
@@TheRainHarvester my shop burnt down so I dunno...... still cool topic though
@TheRainHarvester
@TheRainHarvester 4 года назад
@@HuskyMachining what happened?!!
@HuskyMachining
@HuskyMachining 4 года назад
@@TheRainHarvester had a fire that burn most what I had made or ever collected... fire marshal said it was a power strip that was faulty that ran my computer... it was a bummer but I just finished rebuilding so I'm excited
@TrojanHorse1959
@TrojanHorse1959 4 года назад
Great video & spot welder build, thank you!
@TabletopMachineShop
@TabletopMachineShop 4 года назад
Thank you!
@howardtoob
@howardtoob 2 года назад
This is a good video. FINALLY a MOT spot welder video from a common sense individual. Thanks bro!
@Tristoo
@Tristoo 2 года назад
you can regulate the output power a few different ways. 1. take another tap off the transformer from the middle of the 2 windings for half the power (same voltage, same resistance, only the current can change) 2. if you want something more variable you can have an IGBT doing PWM on the input (mains), but gotta be careful cuz you're dealing with AC and transistors don't love that so much 3. you can put more windings on it, which will give you a higher output voltage, but rectify it and PWM it with some nice mosfet(s) at a much higher frequency (few khz maybe), it'll be higher voltage but the duty cycle precision will allow you to just make more or less power overall and also, be careful with those few millisecond pulse times, you're still getting the same 50/60hz in the output that you get from mains input, which means 20/16.66ms periods. going bellow that will give inconsistent results depending on what part of the wave you end up catching. also the tabs that connect to the copper rods will likely be the limiting factor on how much current you get since they're likely the more resistive part of the circuit. connecting the copper directly will likely be the wiser solution, or if you have a tig machine just straight welding it. and after that, the limiting factor will still be the minimum thickness in any part of the circuit (assuming all copper), so rods that big aren't necessary unless your thinnest cable is equally as thick. money would better spent on thinner, longer probes that are more versatile. great video tho, surely the best I've seen on the topic. cudos!
@alyoussefrou8177
@alyoussefrou8177 5 лет назад
nice job can u give the arduino code plz i am in the same priject
@alyoussefrou8177
@alyoussefrou8177 5 лет назад
project hhhhh
@marcelgansfusz5476
@marcelgansfusz5476 3 года назад
This is a great project but I don't think yuo can weld any time shorter than 20ms relyably (assuming your AC voltage has a frequency of 50Hz (european standard)) because you are using a solid state relay and solid state relays just switch off (as far a I know without any extra cuircitry) if the current through the relay is zero, wich only happens in the worst case 20ms after switching on the transformer because the transformer is a highly inductive load. In my project I am planning to use a contactor instead of a solid state relay.
@harryguy76
@harryguy76 4 года назад
How many volts can be expected from one turn of that heavy gauge wire? like 12v? and would the voltage change with a larger or smaller gauge wire...or does the number of turns determine the voltage? if so would jamming one turn of the largest gauge wire possible give more amps?? or is it only capable of so much amps and becomes a waste to increase gauge size on the secondary? Also rather then have the timer could a 12v solenoid be used on the secondary output on one lead just before the tip as a switch? or would it be better to just add a switch to the transformer main? Thanks for any help...this is all french to me...nice work....
@jamesburkett8087
@jamesburkett8087 4 года назад
I sped watched this so idk if you said it but a foot pedal switch is the way to go you can either buy one premade or like I did at first make one Which worked great but I did wind up buying a Tig welder footpedal for 20 bucks online Which has a power control knob on it and the one I made was just from a light dimmer switch but it Has to be the kind that you turn on and off by pushing it in and out not having to turn it all the way to the left to turn it off then I built it into a nice little case took the original knob off put about a inch and Half extension on the little nub that the knob goes on drilled a hole so it’s stuck out Like 3/8 of an inch but it cannot have any play The extension can only be able to move up and down and be spun so if you step on it add an awkward angle you’re not gonna snap it off and fix on your foot pedal Are used plexiglass so I could see through it put a red line move it in 8th inch increments with a multimeter attached And marked out the readings underneath the footpedal which I could see through turned it all the way to its lowest point and put a red line on the plexiglass that would lineup with my markings underneath. Longest RU-vid comment I’ve ever left
@dumle29
@dumle29 6 лет назад
For the 5v PSU, I'd recommend the HLK-PM01. It's a really good PSU for the cost. There's a teardown and test on this page: lygte-info.dk/review/Power%20Mains%20to%205V%200.6A%20Hi-Link%20HLK-PM01%20UK.html
@TabletopMachineShop
@TabletopMachineShop 6 лет назад
Thanks! That was a super useful page. I think I'll try one out!
@davidgoddard2599
@davidgoddard2599 3 года назад
it all looks great but shouldn't you be concerned about cooling more space is a great way to start with your cooling system then a fan,, really great job thanks for sharing
@khalilalhawajreh5790
@khalilalhawajreh5790 4 года назад
DOES IT WORK IN THIK METAL SUCH STRUCTURES OF CAR OR THE THIN LAYER CARS? WHAT I MEAN UPTO 2mm OR 3mm TWO PCS TO JOIN THEM BETTER THAN MIG WELDING?
@nandlalchoudhary2579
@nandlalchoudhary2579 4 года назад
sir really a great video one of my favourite youtube channel . sir i also made by watching your steps but had one query can you please tell me what is the input voltage and current to operate this spot welder (according to input voltage is 220v but what is the required current ). please sir tell me as i cannot move forward untill my doubt is cleared. please sir a big fan of your channel
@lewisheard1882
@lewisheard1882 6 лет назад
So, I don't want to be 'That guy' but what would happen if you accidentally shorted the two big copper bars with you in the middle? I notice how you hold down the top one, so maybe a stray piece of metal was touching the bottom bar and you brushed your hand against it during the weld? If that would do what I think it would, and that would be give you a very nasty shock, wouldn't it be worth two delrin sleeves to make it all a lot safer? Let me know if I'm missing something :)
@TabletopMachineShop
@TabletopMachineShop 6 лет назад
So the voltage is actually so low (~2V) that current won't enter my body. I'm not going to try it, but I'm like 90% sure I could pinch my tongue in it and not get shocked. Electricity below 48V is pretty much totally safe in terms of getting shocked through skin. Don't quote me on that though. It is always better to practice proper safety precautions!
@kennethlerman9664
@kennethlerman9664 6 лет назад
You didn't show that you connected the green (ground) wire of the power cord to the case. You probably did, but I mention it in case some of your viewers don't know to do that. It's an important safety thing.
@TabletopMachineShop
@TabletopMachineShop 6 лет назад
Yessir I did, and I should have mentioned it. Very important for a metal enclosure. I fastened it through the transformer mounting hole directly into the frame.
@kevin_delaney
@kevin_delaney 6 лет назад
Oh, btw....that's dope haha
@mattbarker3613
@mattbarker3613 6 лет назад
Good timing
@hamish1924
@hamish1924 6 лет назад
Nice job, the controller looks quite professional. How thick have you managed to weld successfully? I had a dodgy attempt a while back, was doing well on two pieces of 0.9mm sheet but anything thicker was breaking the weld before tearing the parent metal. I wonder if cramming as much copper into the transformer as possible will reduce power losses?
@TabletopMachineShop
@TabletopMachineShop 6 лет назад
I think this could probably weld 2 pieces of 1/32" together and have the material tear before the weld. It can certainly tack much thicker material (I've been playing with 1/16" stainless) though I havent properly tested the welds and I imagine they aren't stronger than the material
@torstenb5248
@torstenb5248 6 лет назад
Awesome
@siapaaku830
@siapaaku830 4 года назад
where can I buy a bushing like that please answer
@RexusKing
@RexusKing 6 лет назад
Is there a formula for determine the thickness of the delrin bushing?
@RexusKing
@RexusKing 6 лет назад
Ah, thanks for the explanation!
@TabletopMachineShop
@TabletopMachineShop 6 лет назад
The voltage is so low I'm sure a good tape would have worked. I mainly sized the delrin so that if the electrode slides for whatever reason it wouldn't contact the hinge
@RexusKing
@RexusKing 6 лет назад
I'm a physical therapist, so a lot of knowledge is lacking. I just learn yesterday that high voltages arcs, not high currents. Thanks everybody for explaining!
@sreekumarUSA
@sreekumarUSA 4 года назад
Thanks. Great metal work. They look exactly like a Military design. Perhaps, a strong handle on top would look good.
@ilkayyilmaz6297
@ilkayyilmaz6297 3 года назад
Where Can I get the scetch for arduino?
@StefsEngineering
@StefsEngineering 6 лет назад
Well hello there! Excellent timing, let me grab something to drink and relax in the morning summer sun with this video Again a project I've been looking at myself and has been pushed forward way too many times. Are you sure that you haven't seen my "idea's sketchbook" and "to-do list" ?
@TabletopMachineShop
@TabletopMachineShop 6 лет назад
I think by now its "our" ideas sketchbook.... Haha I think this project is on a lot of people's list. It works really well given how easy it is to get a microwave transformer. Now I'm looking forward to you doing a video on it!
@StefsEngineering
@StefsEngineering 6 лет назад
I think you are right about that. Well doesn't hurt to help eachother out sometimes right? On that subject, if you need some help or ideas for design and cad in the future, I'm happy to help! Your build definately made me excited again to make one so I bumped it up a couple of places in my to-do list. It is definately a great addition to my finger press break and steel sheers (and beats TIG welding thin sheetmetal any day). When I get to it I'll make a video about it.
@matgggg55
@matgggg55 4 года назад
“Any code I write isn’t worth any money “ lmao same dude
@JBLewis
@JBLewis 6 лет назад
Cool project! The Auto White Balance is a little distracting early in the video but I didn't notice it as much at the end so I don't know if that was just an artifact of that one set up.
@TabletopMachineShop
@TabletopMachineShop 6 лет назад
I should really learn more about filming... especially with all of the metallic things i shoot :p
@johanrehnstrom1980
@johanrehnstrom1980 3 года назад
What is the thickness of the copper bars? Both the arms and the tips...
@imperialsecuritybureau6037
@imperialsecuritybureau6037 3 года назад
He said one inch for the arms, not sure about the tips.
@ifell3
@ifell3 6 лет назад
I would have been the same, lets see how much spot welding i can do!! Nice channel, subbed!!!
@TabletopMachineShop
@TabletopMachineShop 6 лет назад
Thanks!
@frankgrimes8714
@frankgrimes8714 6 лет назад
Harbor freight sells a spot welder for $127.99 USD. I am not saying i wouldnt build one myself but is this one you made superior? The spot timing is a cool feature.
@TabletopMachineShop
@TabletopMachineShop 6 лет назад
That was a very Frank Grimes-y question :P. Yeah it's the old "build or buy" debate. My rule is that its almost always cheaper to buy, but I enjoy making things so I don't worry too much about which option is better. Mine certainly has room for upgrades, which is a plus.
@frankgrimes8714
@frankgrimes8714 6 лет назад
I totally get it. I didnt mean to sound like I was insulting building one. Heck I have a bench shear I am building that are only like $100 but I just wanted to build one instead of spending the money. Luckily I have a friend who could give me some spring steel for the blades.
@sreekumarUSA
@sreekumarUSA 4 года назад
My humble opinion is not about the cost ... but the satisfaction and happiness that’s derived out of making a device on your own and enjoying working with it. This, many people may not understand.... or will never .... I can envision the above effect, by the maker. Thanks. Happy New Year.
@dr.feelgood2358
@dr.feelgood2358 4 года назад
damn thats a lot of thick copper. all that must add up on the cost.
@TabletopMachineShop
@TabletopMachineShop 4 года назад
Yeah it did, but I wanted it to be nice and rigid so I can apply some force while welding.
@thevoidedwarranty
@thevoidedwarranty 4 года назад
Lock the white balance for god sake
@TabletopMachineShop
@TabletopMachineShop 4 года назад
I have since discovered the magic of white balance haha
@rowandunn2403
@rowandunn2403 6 лет назад
If you want sheet metal enclosure will not get a press/brake etc
@TabletopMachineShop
@TabletopMachineShop 6 лет назад
I'm sure you can find pre-fabricated ones, though I never really looked that hard
@nerferfan
@nerferfan 6 лет назад
That's sick. The unit looks quite professional.
@TabletopMachineShop
@TabletopMachineShop 6 лет назад
Ah why thank you figglezworth
@asdfjkl981
@asdfjkl981 4 года назад
It freaks me out when you hold the copper rod with your hand while welding.
@TabletopMachineShop
@TabletopMachineShop 4 года назад
Yeah, it seems dangerous but the voltage is so low it's quite safe
@asdfjkl981
@asdfjkl981 4 года назад
@@TabletopMachineShop sure but i still can not get used to the possibility of a high current electrical circuit, closed by my body
@HomeDistiller
@HomeDistiller 6 лет назад
You could limit current with a large resistor on the primary side of the transformer
@TabletopMachineShop
@TabletopMachineShop 6 лет назад
Like a rheostat? Ya that's a good point. I never really understood AC well enough to know when you're limiting the power or just converting it to lots of heat :p
@EricMonroe7
@EricMonroe7 6 лет назад
How could you modify this to be able to weld tabs onto batteries? Seems like another good application.
@TabletopMachineShop
@TabletopMachineShop 6 лет назад
I think with different electrodes you might be able to make it work. I think battery tabs are nickel though and I don't know how well those weld with a transformer-style welder. In my research I saw some capacative discharge welders for batteries, but I'm not sure what kind of voltage/current they're running. I may try it anyways!
@TheRainHarvester
@TheRainHarvester 4 года назад
@@TabletopMachineShop did you try welding battery tabs?
@dr.romeochair5786
@dr.romeochair5786 5 лет назад
Great video! My microwave just died and I'm going to give this a try with the salvaged transformer. I was thinking -- if you attached the heavy leads out closer to the tips, you could get away with just a few inches of copper rod. To get the length of jaws you wanted, you could press fit the copper ends into something like 1" EMT tubing. Your construction looks great, but I'm basically cheap (and copper is pricey). Nice job!
@TabletopMachineShop
@TabletopMachineShop 5 лет назад
Good point! Wires connecting closer to the contacts would save you some money. Connecting further back gives me sliiightly higher efficiency because the copper arms conduct much better than the copper wire, but it might be a marginal gain -- I didn't do any math for this one :P.
@TheRainHarvester
@TheRainHarvester 4 года назад
Could you use copper pipe? It's cheap, and I think all the electrons repel in a bar so they all travel on the surface of the bar anyway.
@trondwibe2618
@trondwibe2618 4 года назад
@@TheRainHarvester Nope. The area is the most important factor. However, comparing a pipe and a bar with the same square section, you might be right.
@hardhatlife
@hardhatlife 5 лет назад
nice!! 💪 👷🏻
@DeanParmenter
@DeanParmenter 5 лет назад
the best ELI5 of how transformers work.
@TabletopMachineShop
@TabletopMachineShop 5 лет назад
Thanks, hopefully it wasn't too condescending :P
@dannyl2598
@dannyl2598 4 года назад
Well done!
@thurston383
@thurston383 4 года назад
How are you holding it and not getting shocked?
@dimitrismoures
@dimitrismoures 4 года назад
because the voltage is about 2V
@zebruhmlz8801
@zebruhmlz8801 3 года назад
@@dimitrismoures but isn’t the current extremely high?
@doavideo
@doavideo 6 лет назад
could you not operate that solid state replay with pwm to give you some control over the power
@TabletopMachineShop
@TabletopMachineShop 6 лет назад
I don't think it can switch fast enough for PWM. I'm also discovering that SSRs don't like switching big inductive loads frequently :P
@victorbarroscoch
@victorbarroscoch 3 года назад
@@TabletopMachineShop How has it held up? Did you change the SSR or add any surge protection?
@davidbalfour3390
@davidbalfour3390 6 лет назад
Does the SSR have zero crossing and if so does that effect timing?
@TabletopMachineShop
@TabletopMachineShop 6 лет назад
It does have zero crossing which I think has a small effect on timing (only at really small durations). One issue though is that because this is a highly inductive load, zero crossing is actually a problem (or so i've read). I'm currently troubleshooting the relay, which seems to have died. I'm going to try the same relay again, but this time I'm going to use a varistor for surges.
@davidbalfour3390
@davidbalfour3390 6 лет назад
I thought it might cause error, I think at most half an ac wave though (~8ms @60hz).
@MurcuryEntertainment
@MurcuryEntertainment 6 лет назад
One way you might be able to adjust the power is adding multiple taps to the primary winding, and have each tap run through a selector switch. It's pretty analogue but it could work.
@TabletopMachineShop
@TabletopMachineShop 6 лет назад
It's delightfully analog. If i re-wound the primary I might have done this just for like a "low" and "high" power mode!
@franktkalcevic5342
@franktkalcevic5342 6 лет назад
Could you use an AC light dimmer on the transformer input to do that ?
@MurcuryEntertainment
@MurcuryEntertainment 6 лет назад
Tabletop Machine Shop check out the homemade benchtop power supply video by Matthias Wendel. He goes through how something like works that in a good amount of detail.
@TheMetalButcher
@TheMetalButcher 6 лет назад
Ya need a beefy variac.
@mmpiforall5913
@mmpiforall5913 4 года назад
OK vid, but the rest of the parts are already from a spot welder! OK I guess if it broke and you're subbing the transformer. However, this design will not get the full current of a manufactured spot welder. Interesting tip: Big industrial spot welders have controllers that set weld time plus multiple "pre-welds" fast weld pulses intended to blow platings off parts so the main weld with longer time creates a true weld between the base metals of the parts - otherwise parts can look welded but snap apart later!
@kevin_delaney
@kevin_delaney 6 лет назад
Lmfao "I made a sailboat" "flapping in the breeze" Lmao dude we would get along so well 😂 Holding it with your thumb and welding, well that looks and sounds sketchy lmao I'd make something that looks safer to touch haha I got two microwave transformers sitting in my tool box for a similar project. I'm thinking an industrial induction foundry, one of my friends was working on one for jewelry casting and it really got me interested in it. You have convinced me, I am sending you a care package 😆 Also, email me the electronics you are using, part numbers and boards, etc. I'm alright with code, but I have friends that are engineers that legitimately love doing it and are very good. I'll make sure it's coded right:)
@TabletopMachineShop
@TabletopMachineShop 6 лет назад
So actually it's totally safe to touch! it's only about 2V, so it won't shock. It does get how though. I'll send along those part numbers. Spoiler alert: I just blew up the relay, so that's a bit of a work in progress. Apparently switching giant inductive loads is pretty hard on electronics!
@kevin_delaney
@kevin_delaney 6 лет назад
You probably need a heatsink and a fan for the relay alone, or you are exceeding the amperage. That looks like a fairly standard Solid State Relay, SSR, I use them in my 3D printers (that are big enough) to run the heated bed (mainly) off of mains voltage of 120. I am not exceeding 10 amps though so passive cooling is more than sufficient for my application. I suspect you are running quite a bit of amperage with that microwave transformer. I have a lot of respect for electricity because I am still very, very, ignorant of electricity. I am aware of this ignorance which is where my cautious fear/respect of electricity, specifically high-power applications such as mains and higher, come from. You seem like you know quite a bit more about electricity than myself, otherwise you wouldn't do the projects you ave already posted, the science doesn't make it look or sound any less sketchy though hahaha
@kvmods
@kvmods 6 лет назад
Can you give a link to the arduino controller, i cant find it... nice welder! Good job!
@TabletopMachineShop
@TabletopMachineShop 6 лет назад
Hmm it should just be a regular arduino uno
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