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Building an Asian Pottery Kick Wheel (kerokuro or karatsu wheel) Part 2/2: The Rest of It 

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To make pottery, last week I did a lot of wood working. This week, I do some welding. Weird how that doesn't make a lot of sense. Of course, what in life does make sense? Plenty, sure, but if you ignore all of that, my point stands.
Materials: 3/4" 4'x8' sheet of marine plywood
2 3' long 1" oak dowels
1 1" 4130 steel rod , 2 flange bearings, 1" inner diameter from www.grainger.com. McMaster carr probably too.
Lots of glue: Titebond III preferred
Screws: 4x 3", 5/18" stainless to prevent rusting inside the wood
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@TheVirindi
@TheVirindi 5 лет назад
Next up: "adding a motor because it turns out moving it with your feet is a lot of work". :D
@JointerMark
@JointerMark 5 лет назад
That first try sure looked like a win to me. Thanks for posting this.
@Khono
@Khono 4 года назад
Your casual incompetence is endearing.
@jonahfilos8684
@jonahfilos8684 5 лет назад
Maybe you could put grip tape for a skateboard on the kick wheel
@PaulsGarage
@PaulsGarage 5 лет назад
Good idea!
@askquestionstrythings
@askquestionstrythings 5 лет назад
I second this upgrade
@MrRokashan
@MrRokashan 5 лет назад
Another option, and cheaper, spread a layer of glue on the base and sprinkle sand on it. When the glue dries, you have grip. I did something similar to my grandparents outside stairs but used paint as the glue. Helps them not slip when its wet!
@LittleMikeStarCraft
@LittleMikeStarCraft 5 лет назад
Was just about to post this, and your comment was right at the top.. so I just thumb'd it up. xD
@texastaterbug5395
@texastaterbug5395 5 лет назад
You'll tear the sides of your shoes to pieces if you do this, but if you want extra grip, just cover the sides of the bottom wheel with skateboard grip tape. Putting your bearings on out of square might be the cause of the wobble. Consider forming a shim to correct the squareness of the bearing. As for the ends of the legs, you could take a 3 inch long piece of 1 inch by 1/8 inch flat stock and put a bend in it to cover the end of the tube and provide a foot for the leg from the same piece.
@PaulsGarage
@PaulsGarage 5 лет назад
The bearings are free to turn, so being out of square is fine for them. The wobble is definitely from misalignment of the wood, though. Grip tape is a great idea
@chaoticchem
@chaoticchem 5 лет назад
Very cool idea! My wife and I have been wanting to try this. Thank you for this video, Paul! We have gotten a lot of ideas from your channel and we love it. Keep up the good work!
@PaulsGarage
@PaulsGarage 5 лет назад
Go for it! There are lots of instructions for these kinds of wheels out there, I'm sure you will have fun
@imanweilanasser3874
@imanweilanasser3874 2 года назад
Good I like it ❤️
@PaulsGarage
@PaulsGarage 2 года назад
Thanks!
@santonucci
@santonucci 3 года назад
My Pillow bearings should be here today. Daughter is bringing home more glue. I'm going to fill the inside cavity of the bottom with sand to add mass. I am stoked...
@PaulsGarage
@PaulsGarage 3 года назад
Building one? This thing is great. My mom has it now but I'm planning to build another one, an Onggi wheel to be precise. Basically identical to this one except lower and wider, but same construction. Good luck!
@santonucci
@santonucci 3 года назад
@@PaulsGarage I thought yours was a bit tall? About how high do you think your table should be? Also how wide? I cut 15" circles because my lathe swings 16" and I plan to true them round on the lathe vs. fun with an angle grinder...
@PaulsGarage
@PaulsGarage 3 года назад
It was a bit tall, but the key height is the distance from the top of the 2 discs. The distance from where you foot hit the bottom to the part where you put the clay. The total height is less of an issue as the real ones tend to be sitting down in a hole, or you have a raised bench to sit at. I don't exactly remember how wide mine is, i think 14"? I did the same diameter for both top and bottom. If i did it again, I might make the top narrower, maybe 12", maybe not, but I would make the bottom one wider for a bit easier kicking and a bit more momentum. The other thing I would change is to move some of the plates on the top to the bottom. That way the total rotating mass wouldn't change, but the mass would move closer to the bottom. With all the weight up on the top, it sometimes gets a slight wobble when i'm kicking it hard (like during centering).
@santonucci
@santonucci 3 года назад
I have it dry fitted and my first thought is that the hole the center rod passes through in the wood should be slightly larger than the rod, because it spins, but seem to drag a bit? Thoughts? I'm going to hunt the shed a little bit later for an old umbrella stand I think I threw out there years ago instead of welding)
@PaulsGarage
@PaulsGarage 3 года назад
Yes the holes should be large enough and aligned between plates enough that the rod doesn't touch them. I had a similar issue, had to make adjustments. The rod should only contact the bearings. I dont have any contact at the tip of the rod like some designs show, it ended up working just fine like this. A leach treadle wheel hangs everything on bearings too I think and those are much heavier
@michaelhouts1115
@michaelhouts1115 5 лет назад
Hey Paul, just want to say thanks for making videos and entertaining us. I love that you're honest about the jerry rigging you do, because us regular guys all do it! Good enough is exactly that.!
@PaulsGarage
@PaulsGarage 5 лет назад
I'm sure theres someone out there who doesnt Jerry rig anything, but I'm not that guy! The problem with pretending I know what I'm doing is that people who actually know what they're doing will see and immediately know it's a fraud. Better to just be honest!
@razamspaz
@razamspaz 4 года назад
You are hilarious dude! Had me cracking up. 1st video i've seen of yours :)
@johnmccanntruth
@johnmccanntruth 5 лет назад
That wheel really works, much better than you’d think. Obviously someone knew that already as I am guessing there have been millions made. I’d be trying to ad something to power it for a steady speed. Not that that is a simple thing to do either. Good job on all that work!
@PaulsGarage
@PaulsGarage 5 лет назад
I already have that electric one from the washing machine, it still works (kinda). Gonna try building some leg muscle to use this, but I might add some power eventually. I cant leave anything alone.
@andrewfleming611
@andrewfleming611 5 лет назад
@@PaulsGarage you could try adding weight (maybe drill evenly spaced 2 inch holes, fill with sand, and then glue some wood on top to hide the holes?) to the base to help preserve some of the momentum. The added weight may also help to keep your stand from moving.
@andrewfleming611
@andrewfleming611 5 лет назад
I forgot to write, also, I think Korean wheels are used barefoot or with some kind of slippers for additional traction.
@ronyerke9250
@ronyerke9250 5 лет назад
@@andrewfleming611 The momentum he tries to preserve will also need to be built up to. I think he'd better save that for after he gets his legs accustomed to the contraption as it is before adding weight.
@swdweeb
@swdweeb 5 лет назад
Nice job bud. Sometihng wildly soothing about watching clay spin and take shape.
@PaulsGarage
@PaulsGarage 5 лет назад
It's also soothing to do it. Unless its not going smoothly in which case it's totally infuriating
@swdweeb
@swdweeb 5 лет назад
@@PaulsGarage So like everything else in life? ;-)
@PaulsGarage
@PaulsGarage 5 лет назад
Exactly like that!
@2LateIWon
@2LateIWon 5 лет назад
Use skateboard tape where your feet go fur better traction
@mattthomas9267
@mattthomas9267 5 лет назад
Glue and sandpaper
@StoneAndersonStudio
@StoneAndersonStudio Год назад
Looks fantastic. Great work, both with the wood and with the clay! I teach pottery classes (and make pottery) for a living and most pottery people don't even try to make their own wheels, so that's commendable all on its own. Sure there's a bit of a wobble, but the wheel head technically doesn't need to be perfectly level or wobble-free to make a perfectly centered pot, especially if you're throwing "off the hump." From my understanding, the majority of pottery traditionally made on a karatsu is thrown off the hump anyways. I'm impressed!
@PaulsGarage
@PaulsGarage Год назад
Thanks! I can't just buy something and be happy, I gotta make everything or i go crazy. it's a personal flaw haha. I have a design in mind to make a much better one for a studio i'm setting up at my new house, I just haven't gotten around to it. I was worried about the wobble too until i saw a video of Richard Batterham throwing pots on his kickwheel and it was wobbling all over the place! His work is incredible so clearly the wobble isn't as big of a deal as i initially thought. He was an incredible potter, though, so just because he can do it doesn't mean I can. After making this starting making my own clay and glazes too. I have a mid fire clay I can dig up around me that I use (with a few % bentonite added) and a cream colored glaze made from a clay deposit elsewhere in the county. The possibilities are endless it seems.
@StoneAndersonStudio
@StoneAndersonStudio Год назад
@@PaulsGarage yes! If you make the new design I’m sure I’m not the only one who’d like to see a video of the build. A wobbly wheel head isn’t the end of the world but it can be a lot harder to learn, especially if you’re used to stabilizing your hands on the wheel head while throwing. (I usually recommend against doing this for the sake of not losing any skin haha.) The rabbit hole of digging and using local materials goes SO deep! It’s so awesome you’ve been able to find some local materials that work for what you’re doing. I’d love to see some of that process too if you ever want to share, but I’d probably watch you do just about anything.
@jt.633
@jt.633 2 года назад
You’re so funny and entertaining to watch 😂
@LittleMikeStarCraft
@LittleMikeStarCraft 5 лет назад
You sure keep busy doing really fun stuff.
@notny411
@notny411 5 лет назад
I love it when grinders earn their keep
@PaulsGarage
@PaulsGarage 5 лет назад
Mine work overtime
@Emonk2010
@Emonk2010 5 лет назад
"music left in for your enjoyment" - have crueller words ever been spoken? Nice video though!
@nedludd8633
@nedludd8633 4 года назад
your my kind of engineer ,more LOL's ..Great video !
@timdaviszaper
@timdaviszaper 5 лет назад
I should try making one with my cnc machine. Lol.
@Handsy_McGee
@Handsy_McGee 5 лет назад
Grinder and paint make me the welder I ain't!
@cpoco
@cpoco 3 года назад
You could probably 3D model little stoppers for the metal tubing... kind of like the things they have on Gym equipment... a part that slots into the tube and an outer part to hopefully stop the injury stuff.
@1ericedwards
@1ericedwards 5 лет назад
Paul, I suggest Rubber. Get some decently thick rubber to staple onto the bottom of the wheel. It will give your shoes grip and a little extra water protection... And if the leg workout doesn't work out, you can always try adding a motorized belt to it.
@PaulsGarage
@PaulsGarage 5 лет назад
Good plan!
@z4p0tek
@z4p0tek 3 года назад
This video did the trick. Better just buy a motored one.
@73superglide62
@73superglide62 5 лет назад
Returns on tv so I'm here ,
@TrojanHorse1959
@TrojanHorse1959 5 лет назад
Great idea and build Paul...but go ahead and add the motor now before you damage a leg or two. LOL!
@PITTMAN277
@PITTMAN277 4 года назад
I think you did pretty good bro
@bentoombs
@bentoombs 5 лет назад
Nice rig dude. I was really missing the music from Ghost though... 👍👍
@PaulsGarage
@PaulsGarage 5 лет назад
Copyright laws are hard to get around haha
@00_negative
@00_negative 5 лет назад
"Need a bigger hammer" grabs giant log.....i lost it. 😅😅😅
@michaelblair2001
@michaelblair2001 5 лет назад
:o)
@andrews4321
@andrews4321 5 лет назад
Try friction tape on the base. You can also try adding a rim around the top to catch the water that's flying off. For the sponge - use enough water so that your hands easily glide over the clay, but not so much that you have a pool at the bottom of your pot
@BobSmith-my9qv
@BobSmith-my9qv 5 лет назад
Hey idk if you check this but you should try to make a knife out of mercury with liquid nitrogen or something else it would be really cool and would blow up
@basementworkshop45north49
@basementworkshop45north49 5 лет назад
You should finish the Gingery lathe so you can chuck the pottery heel to tru it.
@eelcohoogendoorn8044
@eelcohoogendoorn8044 5 лет назад
In case you were in desperate need of some hindsight delivered from my couch; I kinda did see that non-level wobble surface coming in part 1. Would have been better to widen out those holes and get the dowels in to a defined length; and grinding it down to a level surface sounds like a lot of work. To try and bring that back to a constructive suggestion; how about giving it a little rim with some wide tape sticking out, and then mixing up some plaster and wood glue. Makes for a nice and cheap but sufficiently durable pourable resin (plaster alone might do even unless you want to do more of these christnings) so you can let gravity do the rest of the levelling. This only gets rid of the wobble insofar gravity aligns with the axis of rotation though, mind.
@deepashtray5605
@deepashtray5605 4 года назад
Maybe you could take out some of the wobble by torquing the dowels, which as i recall have not been glued into place. It looked like they weren't quite parallel. On the ends of the feet you could drill a hole, run a bolt through and have adjustable feet to level it. I might try to make one myself, thanks.
@PaulsGarage
@PaulsGarage 4 года назад
The dowels weren't quite parallel and the panels weren't cut very well. If I had to do it again it would be very different. Give it a try, it's actually pretty fun to use
@user-ec2mn8wc7f
@user-ec2mn8wc7f 3 года назад
Hello, Does each stack of plywood weigh around 2.20 lbs ? Could they be replaced by boat wheels ?
@chucksterock
@chucksterock 5 лет назад
Need a much bigger flywheel on that thing. The potter I've spoken to at the fair said the flywheel on his was overr 100 pounds and probably 3 feet in diameter for a lot more inertia.
@barrystevens2780
@barrystevens2780 5 лет назад
You need bats and lockting pins. Those bearings have quoted radial load not axial. You could replace the bottom bearing with a thrust type. If you throw your pot on a batt you can lift it off to cure and make another on top of another batt. Good luck
@ypop417
@ypop417 5 лет назад
Rock On Dude! The first thing you make is an ashtray LOL
@PaulsGarage
@PaulsGarage 5 лет назад
Lol I dont smoke though. I'll have to start, dont want that ash tray to go to waste!
@ypop417
@ypop417 5 лет назад
@@PaulsGarage I don't smoke either but have a collection of ashtrays!
@ronyerke9250
@ronyerke9250 5 лет назад
Coffee mugs then. ☺
@michaelblair2001
@michaelblair2001 5 лет назад
Hi Paul . I've just recently found your site & for the past couple days I've been skipping around a bit but enjoying all of your stuff. Your personality & intelligence makes the chatter very enjoyable . But this wasn't intended to be a 'fan letter' ... (* shhhh *I'm a fan. ) I'm just an opinionated old (72) guy & I wanted to give my opinion on a couple things. - - Not intended to embarrass . A couple places where you are discussing stresses , you misused the term tension, most notably when you were testing the Iron ingot by bashing it in the vise . Its more easy to visualize tension if you just imagine tension as the opposite of compression. ... compression = squeezing , tension = stretching. The term for the stress you were discussing (like I said , in a couple videos) is shear . Especially in the lateral bashing at the vise - - Shear would have been the proper term. Enough on that minor slip. 2 ) I forget the correct terms you gave for the two part box you use for your sand molds , but I believe the single wedge on the top box is not supposed to be ATTACHED to the box. I noticed you used a screw. I believe that wedge is a separate piece that should be driven in & held entirely by friction.. Enjoying everything & I think The first project I will steal from you is the kick wheel pottery gizmo . Sneaky in that I believe if I can involve the wife - I will get more garage time for myself ! < insert evil laugh here. - - schistdigger@aol.com - - (Mike) OH ! Hey ! it seems that at some point in your past YOU were a schistdigger ! LOL
@kevinwatson5833
@kevinwatson5833 5 лет назад
Scratch board under pot so you can move it while wet and a rubber cane foot on metal legs safer and slip resistant
@PaulsGarage
@PaulsGarage 5 лет назад
Good ideas
@TotseInfo
@TotseInfo 5 лет назад
Have you put any thought into lost wax/pla casting now that you have kilns to burn out the material? You've come a long way in regards to resources and tools since your last shot at it.
@SeanTHirsch
@SeanTHirsch 5 лет назад
Now add a small motor and foot pedal and you dont have to kick it.
@melodyfleck9368
@melodyfleck9368 5 лет назад
Why not use slices of the huge log you have instead of plywood disks glued together?
@PaulsGarage
@PaulsGarage 5 лет назад
When huge logs dry, they tend to crack, and fixing the cracks is difficult. If you see some old kick wheels they tend to be very thick boards laying flat, not upright, often sawn in half and glued in ways that prevent the cracking and warping. Plywood is easier because the thin boards glued together with grain perpendicular to the next layer prevents warping and cracking, important for moist environments like pottery making. It can be done with solid wood, but this is just easier for me with the tools I have. To use the big log, for example, I would need a massive wood lathe. While those exist and many people have them, I do not. Thanks for watching!
@askquestionstrythings
@askquestionstrythings 5 лет назад
I gather that using the sponge results in the pot being slippery
@theoneandonly15
@theoneandonly15 5 лет назад
Make a smaller chair try to keep your waist lined with the top of your wheel
@draven3838
@draven3838 4 года назад
You need tablets that sit on pins to turn you pottery on then you use the wire and leave the pot on the plate and remove it and and a new one for next pot
@scumbagkyler1959
@scumbagkyler1959 4 года назад
Put marine grease on the end of the shaft
@diannekuehny2059
@diannekuehny2059 3 года назад
How much did this cost?
@ChaosPootato
@ChaosPootato 5 лет назад
That looks quite good! When's Paul-ttery shop opening?
@PaulsGarage
@PaulsGarage 5 лет назад
The Paul-ttery sounds like a fantastic name
@OlivierLopezCh
@OlivierLopezCh 5 лет назад
There are some "Spin Mops" that have a Bucket with a pedal. When you push the pedal it rotates a gear connected to a bigger gear (watch sec 38 here ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-PvhXy9cRIZg.html), and the momentum generated dries your mop. Maybe you could try adding a big "toothed" wood gear at the bottom and make it spin with a pedal (like the one of the spin mop buckets, or bycicle pedal) if you want to keep it manual, or connect a windshield wiper motor for easyness.
@PaulsGarage
@PaulsGarage 5 лет назад
Sounds fun! There are some DIY wheels made from those mop spinners already
@RobinHood1969
@RobinHood1969 5 лет назад
Next time use a level and a back brace ! Lol
@GabbyJimenezTunez
@GabbyJimenezTunez Год назад
Anyone know the tools for welding he used ? I have 0 welding experience but want this build very much. Wish me luck einieweinie !
@PaulsGarage
@PaulsGarage Год назад
It's just a standard mig welder. Eastwood MIG 175 which isn't made anymore but any mig welder will work for this
@rosspadden4201
@rosspadden4201 2 года назад
You probably could make it right. You understand materials and possess skills but it's half-arsed.
@PaulsGarage
@PaulsGarage 2 года назад
You're definitely right. The next one will be done better in many ways. This one works surprisingly well though. My main complaint is the wobble. It spins true but if I kick hard the stand wobbles a bit. But then I saw a video of Richard Batterham working and his wheel has triple the wobble that this one has, so maybe I dont have to worry about it.
@rosspadden4201
@rosspadden4201 2 года назад
Paul what's your opinion on using wood turning blanks for the flywheel and wheel head? I've been looking into these as well as marine plywood. Cheers.
@PaulsGarage
@PaulsGarage 2 года назад
That might work. If you can get a huge wood lathe you could shave the top and bottom perfectly on that. Marine ply is good stuff but i would recommend not getting it at a box store. This is probably "marine grade" only in that the glues are water resistant, but the quality of the wood is mediocre. If you get marine ply from a place that supplies boat builders, that would probably be best.
@kinkysama
@kinkysama 5 лет назад
Im guessing you found this build from the argentinian guy, correct me if wrong, I built one of these myself but same as yours it loses the momentum too easily any ideas to fix that? maybe its too heavy? Also you're funny
@michaelblair2001
@michaelblair2001 5 лет назад
Heavier = MORE momentum . - - perhaps a top thrust-type bearing to eliminate what is probably the main source of friction ? As an experiment maybe a couple of good super smoothed flat washers slathered with grease.
@archangel20031
@archangel20031 5 лет назад
The ball on the top acts like a "BALL BEARING" reducing friction, but your method will have much more friction, so there! You should have used an old treadmill motor and controller! Variable speed and decent power.
@PaulsGarage
@PaulsGarage 5 лет назад
Good plan on the ball. But I already built an electric wheel!
@GabbyJimenezTunez
@GabbyJimenezTunez Год назад
So how should I build it then ? Lol like for real though .
@leakforme
@leakforme 5 лет назад
You should level it out more with some more angle grinding.
@PaulsGarage
@PaulsGarage 5 лет назад
Sounds like a good plan!
@ronyerke9250
@ronyerke9250 5 лет назад
Duck tape covers for the leg ends might work temporarily. Plasti-dip for tool handles could do the job as well. Adjustible feet at the ends of the legs could allow you to make the axle perfectly vertical, but as you like good enough, why bother? Put your sander on a stand over the top disk and lower it slowly to make the top perpendicular to the vector of the axle. Ugh, maybe it's too much bother. Too bad you don't have a wood lathe to do that on.
@PaulsGarage
@PaulsGarage 5 лет назад
I would LOVE a wood lathe big enough for one of these, it would be so much easier
@ronyerke9250
@ronyerke9250 5 лет назад
@@PaulsGarage And then there's : where do you put it? 😅
@CiaranMartin
@CiaranMartin 5 лет назад
3D print plugs for the legs
@PaulsGarage
@PaulsGarage 5 лет назад
That is a fantastic idea thanks
@ColonelRPG
@ColonelRPG 5 лет назад
Paul, that is the wrong kind of pot!
@PaulsGarage
@PaulsGarage 5 лет назад
Or maybe the right kind! :D
@1day129
@1day129 5 лет назад
Hi Paul, what do you use as your kiln? do you use your foundry?
@PaulsGarage
@PaulsGarage 5 лет назад
Nope, I have an electric kiln. An old old skutt 181
@1day129
@1day129 5 лет назад
@@PaulsGarage thanks Paul, your videos are great... i think i am going to have improvise and use the foundry. not sure what the results of that will be.
@santonucci
@santonucci 3 года назад
We could be friends lol
@Metalstacker
@Metalstacker 5 лет назад
Great job! And a nice pot 😁 maybe it is an idea to attach a small motor to it to spin it?
@PaulsGarage
@PaulsGarage 5 лет назад
I built an electric wheel a few months ago, I like the challenge of this kick one
@Metalstacker
@Metalstacker 5 лет назад
@@PaulsGarage aaah allright have not seen that one yet 👍
@joetuinstra455
@joetuinstra455 5 лет назад
So hey paul how about making a 3d pantodremel or 3d copier? Boy that would be handy to have wouldn't it? There's no good videos on you tube! All your friends are doing it and you wanna be cool don't you?
@danettecross8608
@danettecross8608 Год назад
LOL!
@giuseppe333
@giuseppe333 5 лет назад
First
@PaulsGarage
@PaulsGarage 5 лет назад
Can confirm first
@ironhead65
@ironhead65 5 лет назад
Three legged stools need better music to rock.
@PaulsGarage
@PaulsGarage 5 лет назад
Only the heaviest metal will do!
@radiahsultana6965
@radiahsultana6965 Год назад
Chop them off getting out of the wheel they will not come on way
@hiddenarcher3906
@hiddenarcher3906 5 лет назад
3d print caps
@ahmedselcukb
@ahmedselcukb 3 года назад
i didnt like it. because it doesnt have a basket.
@diannekuehny2059
@diannekuehny2059 3 года назад
How much did this cost?
@PaulsGarage
@PaulsGarage 3 года назад
Total materials probably about $150, though I bet that could be cut down a bit. Took a while to make, though
@diannekuehny2059
@diannekuehny2059 3 года назад
@@PaulsGarageWow, I totally want that pottery spinning wheel.
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