Building the Best $2000 Mini-ITX Gaming PC Possible

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Building the Best $2000 Mini-ITX Gaming PC Possible
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CHARITY LIVE STREAM IS SATURDAY DEC 9 @ 10:00AM PT
► PARTS LIST - $2000 MINI-ITX GAMING PC
CPU
AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D (8c/16t) - $360
Amazon - geni.us/Y9WONXt | Newegg - bit.ly/3zASi6I
CASE / CPU COOLER / PSU
Cooler Master NR200P Max - $400 - bit.ly/49Spdol
MOTHERBOARD
GIGABYTE B650I AORUS Ultra Mini-ITX - $240 - geni.us/eKZOsq
MEMORY
G.SKILL Flare X5 Series 32GB (2x16GB) DDR5-6000 - $94 - geni.us/6JfSy9v
(I used Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB DDR5 32GB (2x16GB) 6000MHz CL30 w/ AMD EXPO - geni.us/khWPrt)
VIDEO CARD / GPU
PowerColor Hellhound Radeon RX 7900 XT 20 GB - $750 ($730 after MIR, Newegg)
Amazon - geni.us/iji2o | Newegg - bit.ly/3T4aCjA
STORAGE / SSD
Acer FA100 2TB PCIe 3.0x4 M.2 NVME - $88 - bit.ly/3Gj2e8m
or
TeamGroup MP34 2TB PCIe Gen3 M.2 NVME SSD - geni.us/JjRKhD
💰 FULL SIZE ATX PARTS - saves about $300
(swap in for the NR200P Max and B650I AORUS Ultra Motherboard)
CASE - Phanteks Eclipse G300A ATX Case ($40) - bit.ly/46sIOZK
MOTHERBOARD - GIGABYTE B650 Gaming X AX ($160-$185) - geni.us/JX0HDt
CPU COOLER - Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ($36) - geni.us/IQMpP
POWER SUPPLY - Thermaltake Smart BM3 750W 80+ Bronze ATX 3.0 & PCIE 5.0 Ready Semi-Modular Power Supply ($81) - geni.us/QBBQer
► TIMESTAMPS
0:00 Intro - The $2000 NR200P Build (7800X3D + RX 7900 XT)
1:18 For $2000 you can but an RTX 4090, or this whole PC
2:53 Parts for the Build
6:30 The GIGABYTE B650I AORUS Ultra has some crazy features
10:36 CPU, Memory, SSD Installation
11:43 The Cooler Master NR200P Case Overview
15:17 CPU Cooler Installation and Motherboard Connectors
19:11 Build Montage… nice
20:08 Notes on the Build and A Couple Benchmarks
22:53 Closing Thoughts
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@itsjustsomeguy. 5 месяцев назад

I love ITX case pricing. I need to spend $150 more on something a quarter of the size, quarter the materials, and a quarter of the airflow.

@daniels4338 5 месяцев назад

They're the barefoot shoes of the diy pc world

@POVwithRC 5 месяцев назад

You already know why though, and you do not actually love the pricing as it sits. Snark harder tho fr fr. Reason: Low volume. Niche uptake. High tooling costs. ITX cases would be a lot cheaper if they moved ATX volume.

@Sheltur_0311 5 месяцев назад

its an economies of scale thing, new outlines/molds, new hardware/mounts, riser cables, not alot of people buying it etc

@FLOODOFSINS 5 месяцев назад

When you buy yourself a mail order bride that's a foot shorter, don't expect to spend any less on the diamond.

@Wetshoelaze 5 месяцев назад

I know they cram a lot more stuff into itx boards but I feel like I’m getting shortchanged with a smaller board compared to matx/atx. I lose two memory slots and maybe a pcie slot but I have to pay more?

@uss_04 5 месяцев назад

Love me some ITX builds. A challenge to build it but they sure look nice

@ChrisM541 5 месяцев назад

They're interesting but not so much a challenge, even in the past (when HDD's had to be used) - you've already committed to small form factor. The only minor consideration is the GPU (on size and performance), but manufacturers already have you covered here. The other consideration is in the CPU+CPU cooler, and there's plenty low profile coolers out there. The big plus today is that you don't need HDD's - the size saving here is significant. Other than that, keep the inside tidy for airflow. Mini ITX is much more of a challenge! But remember, manufacturers have been supplying the 'HTPC build' for years (thus lots of component choices), a build you'd normally keep under your TV in the living room...so needs to be quiet. I've build a fair few over the years. Still, always good to see what can be done today.

@wherearemytesticles 5 месяцев назад

I feel like they are so overrated compared to mATX. There is some really compact mATX cases out there and the components are much cheaper.

@Nespalvotas 5 месяцев назад

This particular unit (NR200P MAX) is one of the easiest to build in. You just have to make sure that your GPU fits.

@i3l4ckskillzz79 3 месяца назад

And run hot

@EnigmasityGG 5 месяцев назад

I have been running essentially the same exact system for about 8 months now. So, in case any of you are trying to recreate this build, I have the following tips for you: - I‘d suggest swapping out the AIO fans to something a bit more premium. I am using two Be Quiet Silent Wings Pro 4 in the high speed setting. The original Cooler Master fans can be a bit whiny and one of my fans actually had a slight wobble on its motor, which created additional noise - add some 120 mm slim fans to the bottom as intake. Helped dropping my GPU temps to below 68 C at all times - create some custom fan curves, as the standard fan curves on motherboards are way to aggressive for the otherwise fantastic cooling potential of this case

@Zalionn 5 месяцев назад

If you want to keep those $300 savings and still go for a small build you can just build in the Sama IM01 case ($59.92). This case is barely bigger than the NR200 and it allows for micro-atx motherboards, full ATX power supplies, big air coolers, and inverted builds. Edit: Also allows for easy inverted builds.

@jak3zera 5 месяцев назад

I have one of the clones of the Sama IM01 (Pichau HX100) with a 5800X3D, RX 6800, ATX non-modular PSU, B450 m-atx and thermalright pa120. All that with the inverted layout (to avoid dust buildup on the bottom of the PC where its harder to clean without moving it) and I couldnt be happier with the case choice

@ShinobiGambu 5 месяцев назад

That's a nice ITX Build. Great job, Paul.

@thorgen_ironside5279 5 месяцев назад

ITX builds are always interesting :) Good content Paul!

@chunknorris01 5 месяцев назад

So far you are in the lead! Hope you raise all possible for the charity. Happy holidays and Merry Christmas.

@JamieR 5 месяцев назад

Love what you and Kyle are doing for the kids! ❤🎉 It makes me happy to think of the amount of joy this pc will give a tiny person! Building in the max in a few days myself. Has to be my favourite case, and having triple slot vs the original 2 is a big change.

@adamsteinbacher2629 5 месяцев назад

I love my NR200 build. Worth noting that the NR200 (Non-P or Max) can be had for much less (mine was $20 after sale and rebate). Fits a 280mm AIO just fine and a 4080 FE.

@RollingSherman505 5 месяцев назад

I love mini-ITX builds! Great job on this one, that case is pretty nice!

@mundaneeve 5 месяцев назад

I wasnt sure how i felt about the case at the beginning but I actually love it! I like that it wont take up much space. Great build!

@dennissmith1435 5 месяцев назад

Thank you Paul for showcasing builds with AMD GPUs.

@Woodzta 5 месяцев назад

I built in the good old SG13 since the NR200P would be too big for my TV stand (It's a HTPC/emulation build). The build costed around £900 but I did get a couple of good deals. It has a 12100, ROG Strix B660-I - this DDR5 board only costed me £160 at the time. I put in a used 3060 Ti and an SP750 since the SF750 was considerably more expensive. It runs RPCS3 and everything else like a dream and I can watch whatever I like.

@cometchaser2117 5 месяцев назад

ITX all the way. Higher wife approval factor. 😂

@philipthavenius9801 5 месяцев назад

I kinda fell in love with that motherboard, very nice build!

@scuphi 5 месяцев назад

Honestly I love this small for factor build duo it having such amazing specs for its size. I cant wait to try and participate in the giveaway and also love what you guys are doing with for the kids and the hospitals!!

@Fubetuck 5 месяцев назад

Post-it screen captures are the future of in video graphics. Love the ITX build!

@jhonwayne1003 5 месяцев назад

I bought all this last week case will be here tomorrow and all put together then! Thanks Paul!

@FeuerToifel 5 месяцев назад

nice build. at first i thought all those adapters and dongles are a bad thing. but thinking about it further, it brings all those sometimes huge connectors away from the board so the overall looks at the board is cleaner.

@T.K.9 5 месяцев назад

Low key wanna try this case lol. Love that the cooler and psu is Included. Cause usually, you only end up with the 750w corsair plat which is not cheap too.

@christinaedwards5084 5 месяцев назад

It’s a great case. Especially if you loathe light up unicorn puke. I re-did a lot of the pre-wiring.

@snoflahke6575 5 месяцев назад

TY for your fundraising and for your giveaways and for your youtube channel. God Bless you and your family.

@Ruiso7 5 месяцев назад

This case is so good. Love the build.

@jaylowkek3571 5 месяцев назад

great video! Thanks Paul!

@berndkemmereit8252 5 месяцев назад

Great to see Mini ITX. As we moved and my PC is now in the living room, I'm looking for something small.

@joelman1989 5 месяцев назад

I’m doing my first PC build with a 2k budget and it will be in the NR200. I’ve got everything but the graphics card. Your video came at the perfect time before I start building

@davekerby9020 5 месяцев назад

I enjoyed the rant/discussion of the cooler install, did a build recently using one and those connectors caused my choice of language to deteriorate rapidly...

@michaelthompson9798 5 месяцев назад

I love ALL my ITX and SFF ITX builds 🥰💪🤩👍! As an NR200 (non-P) owner, I can attest as the cooling effectiveness of this case, even with a Ryzen 9 5900x and RTX3080Ti setup …. even with a 280mm AIO for the cpu and the standard fan cooler for the GPU 🤯🤩. Cooler Master, I agree, should release an updated model with USB-C front panel connector on the case.

@younghentaii1772 5 месяцев назад

amazing build keep up the hard work

@MrMcGreed 5 месяцев назад

16:59 - "we're either almost done, or we still have a lot of work to do" 😂😅 - sounds like my life! Thanks for another great video Paul and Joe ❤

@QuB3 2 месяца назад

I love these detailed build vids ❤

@subtanx 5 месяцев назад

Nice build!

@TheThenewdiabolic 5 месяцев назад

Would recommend the 7900xt. Just upgraded to it from a 2080 super last week and everything running buttery smooth. Was gaming on lower settings at 4k/1440p and now running all 4k.

@morenoise8086 5 месяцев назад

I was not familiar with that case, but it looked really badass to me. I will definitely be looking out for a v2

@Max-Attacks 5 месяцев назад

Love the Beard Paul! Reminds me of a young George Clooney!

@airman_85uk 5 месяцев назад

I would either go ITX to strap it under my sit-stand desk or have a rack mounted gaming pc on top of my rack mounted NAS :D Great build!

@rickgeller6043 5 месяцев назад

This was quite a big build for such a small case. I'm liking it.

@adil1815 5 месяцев назад

This CPU + GPU combo is so satisfying to see in any build.

@FlareSlayer 5 месяцев назад

6950XT is great with the 7800X3D

@outrage20 5 месяцев назад

lol amd combo is terrible.

@pill-poppingnarcissist 5 месяцев назад

@@BlockButton I've used AMD and Nvidia and I can say without any biases that Nvidia is better in so many ways. But if you're an AMD fanboy and all you care about is price, then go with the cheap trash that AMD pumps out. There's a reason Nvidia is more expensive, because it's a better product and people are willing to pay more for it. Their drivers and software are unstable and not good for gamers. Big tech youtubers won't tell you this because they are being paid by sponsors/aren't actual gamers (like me). I have built many computers with every brand, my last build was 4090 + 13900k and I haven't looked back.

@TheBand1211 5 месяцев назад

Been thinking of transforming my old AM4 setup into a sff build to attach to my tv for solo campaign games instead of console. These just look so cool man.

@Tripp-hq 5 месяцев назад

Yes no RGB lol That build was awesome! I was looking into doing an ITX build next. I'm currently still on AM4 with 5000 series.

@greenman8 5 месяцев назад

@ 16:30 ish, speaking of those manufacturer plastic clips- the tension screw holds the Cooler to the CPU, I had the clips of those break, using factory AMD cooler, on my 2nd PC, a Phenom2. Luckily the CPU shut down during POST- and my solution was to lay my PC on its side and let gravity hold the cooler down, until I found a replacement clip at FRY's Electronics (This was before 2010) Ever since then one of the features I look for in an AIO is having a 4 post hold down (not a stirrup using tension)

@LimitlessSpiders 2 месяца назад

I got the MicroTitan PC on MicroPowerPC and I absolutely love it. Incredible build quality, and super powerful. Probably the best PC I've ever had.

@Kioti44 5 месяцев назад

Really Nice Build Paul !!

@atiratiki3072 5 месяцев назад

Thats a fantastic build i wanted to donate but it Christmas timing an on a budget i like supporting ya!!!

@M_Chu 5 месяцев назад

Seeing these new gen builds are crazy! I'm still here with my nvidia1070 and intel i5-7600 haha.

@TheProfeshonal 5 месяцев назад

Thank you, ideas for after christmas mini build...

@3thikz 5 месяцев назад

Fair warning for anyone building one for themselves, Gigabyte boards are notorious for having VRM whine

@utblades 5 месяцев назад

love the build🌟

@JoeMaranophotography 5 месяцев назад

Im running an i5 13500 and RTX 4070ti in mine and its awesome! Think the highest ive seen the cpu go is like 60 degrees with Asus power limits and gpu is usually around 60 degrees or less. I have undervolted and increased gpu fanspeed to 48% though and have bottom fans as exhaust.

@itsdeonlol 5 месяцев назад

Great Mini-ITX Build!

@JohnThunder 5 месяцев назад

Great build Paul! Really enjoy these videos! 👍 Imagine that, for the price of a RTX 4090 you can build a great gaming PC.

@lucasrem 5 месяцев назад

who needs that RTX 4090 on older gen hardware ? 4 gaming HP notebooks, or this micro build by Paul, Gen 3 is fast too !

@rgs559 5 месяцев назад

Thank you, Paul! Just what I've been waiting for...👌

@lanceripplinger8352 5 месяцев назад

Always a good day when Paul uploads a new video!

@michaelthompson9798 5 месяцев назад

ITX has been my go to form factor for over a decade now a I’m happy to pay a small premium for this for factor as I love having more desk space with a tiny case than no desk space with a massive pc case that offers no benefit to users other than data hoarders or steamers etc who need massive amounts of storage ….. but then again most storage needs can be satisfied with a high capacity small sized NAS or storage server.

@nabiljemel2838 3 месяца назад

I have used the same case for my build, with a ryzen 9 7900 asus gforce 4070 ti tuf and asus stirx mother board, I repleced the AIO fans with Noctua ones and I have added two additional slim fans below the graphic cards. The case is a headache for buidling, specially for connecting fan cables... the space is so tight and any misatke can lead to a lot of rework... the case is not deep enough to accomodate most of 4080 but honesty these cards got riducously huge. Once built this is a master piece, it runs really quite and cool, i find it amazing how much power you can pack in such small form factor. The other main issue I had is that the strix mother board comes with a single cpu and a single chssis fun connection, I wish they diteched the led strip connections for more fan headers, or better off come with a universal connection that can be used for both fans and addressable RGB.

@JoshBoy2439 5 месяцев назад

Looks clean!

@phoenix0153 5 месяцев назад

Thats a great idea for a pc build: for the price of a 4090... especially with all the drama going on with China and the scalper situation.

@RS3NDIT 5 месяцев назад

I actually have my build in a totally unnecessary H710i and when I upgrade my mobo/CPU/RAM in a year or two to match the red devil 7900 XTX I just got, I'm HEAVILY considering moving to an ITX case. It'll be more of a challenge than fitting the system into a massive case like the one I have but the compact layout and the portability are massively appealing to me.

@Lancelot122 5 месяцев назад

Love the build, kinda my dream setup

@MegaManNeo 5 месяцев назад

I have the NR200P myself, however, I have the Liquid Freezer II 240 in place for the AIO. Works really well albeit it's probably overkill for the 5600G I actually intended as stopgap for until the 5800X3D drops in price. Oh well, it's a nice case anyway and probably one of my favorite ITX cases in general.

@SpuriousECG 5 месяцев назад

Nice ITX build!

@dallus-pallus 5 месяцев назад

Thank for this video. We're do you plug the aio pump and the cpu fan on this motherboard please?

@DaRealPielover1987 5 месяцев назад

I just built this today and one thing that tripped me up was the PSU Power Switch. It is located on the PSU (top side) and inaccessible from the outside of the case.

@leorocha7418 5 месяцев назад

I love your work very much. This setup is without a shadow of a doubt a dream...Here in Brazil it would be impossible to set up, since it would cost R$20,000.00 and the minimum wage is R$1,300.00. But I loved watching the montage. Success to you!

@waitandhope 5 месяцев назад

Awwww

@lucasrem 5 месяцев назад

local products are the best, Parquai Chips ?

@guntherultraboltnovacrunch5248 5 месяцев назад

The part of the build that is most mysterious to me is setting the pc up after assembling it. Are partitions still a thing? What settings in the bios do I need to concern myself with? Do I need to check my ram timings? Stuff like that.

@RenatsMC1 5 месяцев назад

Love ITX builds

@paulandrada7940 5 месяцев назад

Damn, I wish I had all that hardware! That mini case is ideal for my tiny space room!

@purplerunner1715 5 месяцев назад

Awesome hardware, best of luck to everyone in the draw.

@Haze0808 5 месяцев назад

When i do move and leave the ph this is the build ill follow.hope these are still available in canada

@Subdubbin 5 месяцев назад

I like me some ITX content. Nice music choices btw 😉

@jeremyschillinger917 5 месяцев назад

I love this build. I really want am itx for the PC in my room.

@MacAoi 5 месяцев назад

That looks beautiful

@Jay_the_Caffeinator 5 месяцев назад

Awesomesauce video Paul and Joe! I wish the lucky winner enjoyment on this amazing system! Caffeinator out!

@ghyde7798 5 месяцев назад

Love the build would like to build one. Need to use for both gaming and work with Auto CAD and rendering software. Will this mother board hold more that one STORAGE / SSD, I will need 3 slots please advise.

@hjshoon5244 5 месяцев назад

i recently just configured a very very similar build to check the cost for my budgeting purpose - 7800X3D, CM NR200P Max, Corsair Vengeance 32GB DDR5 6000MHz, 2TB Samsung 980Pro, MSI MPG B650I Edge Wifi, MSI 4070 Ti Ventus 3x. Total was SGD 2590 / USD 1950. If i change 4070 Ti to either MSI 4800 Gaming X Trio or Palit 4080 GameRock, it will be SGD 3200 / USD 2400. Still contemplating if i should even build this PC as right now I've XBox Series X with Innocd 27M2V monitor (4K miniled DisplayHDR1000, FALD 1056 dimming zones). If its mostly for gaming, is it worth splurging the money for the PC build or just stick with the xbox? I used to build my own PCs and played with overclocking in my teenage and early 20s age, but that was around 16 years ago since my last build. thoughts by anyone would be appreciated. btw, i'm still waiting for the 4070 Ti Super and 4080 Super to see the performance and if it drops the 4070 Ti or 4080 prices down. If i'm to build the PC, 2024 will likely be the year for it. thanks

@momol. 5 месяцев назад

Kudos sir for both of you for good deeds!

@MS07B3-G0UF 4 месяца назад

Where did you plug in the AIO pump connector? I’m in the process of building my first PC with this very board and I have no clue where I should plug it in

@1fires1 5 месяцев назад

Might do a Mini-ITX build now.

@djstevie69 5 месяцев назад

Love this game, love the team, thank you for the updates. Now I have sine cans to smash open.

@TrickiHunter 5 месяцев назад

Im a newbie, how is the upgradibility and longevity for a build like this????? tryin to learn thx for any help

@scottdoleac5651 5 месяцев назад

I friggin love ITX builds

@Hurensohnologe0711 5 месяцев назад

Ah, the well deserved NR200P Max. Love it

@lyletaylor3474 5 месяцев назад

❤...love the build...I just did a AM5 Aurous elite build and all corsair(case,ram,m.2,fans ect...)but I'm a mid tower atx guy bc as u said itx don't really offer much play room to fix shit in em if something goes down vs: ATX ...boom in and out no sweat...js..but super cool build paul!!!!

@justatim8143 5 месяцев назад

For a ITX case it is well thought out except for the top which is exhaust and their top cover looks like it will not allow much air to go through. On all their filters they should have used a Fine mesh for better air flow.

@natemills6220 5 месяцев назад

Do you think you'd ever consider doing a live stream charity event that also was somewhere in California that allowed people to attend in person as well? Could be something casual where people could chat and socialize around while y'all streamed

@everythingrc2324 5 месяцев назад

ITX are awesome, Its just tiny things are more expensive. Just like my kids 😂

@DuncSargent 5 месяцев назад

I'd like to see a NO RGB build. Maybe a video of how to turn off all RGB (video card, motherboard, fans, memory). I want it dark at night! Thanks Paul! All hail Paul!

@Gavrev 5 месяцев назад

Although I've never owned a home brew ITX system I have had a soft spot for the fun of having lots of power in a small form factor. That said, wow that was hella fiddly! I was very concerned that it wasn't going to fit properly with that ITX PSU orientation..

@azizirahmat2869 5 месяцев назад

The case is coming also with cpu cooler and power supply?

@Hydration-yq7hu 5 месяцев назад

I have these exact core components. 7800X3D, 7900XT, and 32GB 6000MT/s CL30. Only difference is I went full ATX and boy is it big, but cheaper actually. Closing thought saying the bigger size is cheaper is actually true because I pieced mine together for just over $1700. SUPER solid components. I would definitely recommend this combo for anybody who's got a bit of experience, or wants to upgrade their system.

@jonronnquist 5 месяцев назад

Love the colour of that case.

@TheEyalYemini 5 месяцев назад

What do you think about substituting the b650i with the b650m?

@rubilacxe033 5 месяцев назад

quick tip to anyone planing to build in this case. mount everything first on the motherboard. remove all fans, coolers and power supply/storage. order goes: first motherboard, then power, then cooling, then storage and lastly gpu. was easy building with a custom loop inside.

@user-tz5ck1xy5u 5 месяцев назад

My current computer is ITX, but since I used a Thermaltake Core V1, I only had to pay the ITX tax on the MB (offset by buying open box). It's cheap, takes ATX PSUs, and requires no riser cables. It is limited to 92mm CPU coolers, but Thermalright has a nice one under $20. The case is large for ITX, but you can save a lot by using it.

@mrsebsin 5 месяцев назад

Question, will laying the case on its side cause any cooling issues as long as the mobo is on the bottom? I know AIOs can be finicky.

@trevorjones104 5 месяцев назад

Thank you! First reviewer that I have ever seen that covered what I really wanted to know about RGB ! That is "Does it have an Oh Ef Ef switch!" "Do I have to cut wires off this to avoid the RGB, or am I stuck with it?" Seriously! I fully expect to see RGB Butt Wipe selling at the store, as the hot sauce commercial says "I put that sh*t, on EVERYTHING!". And I really, would not mind seeing it never again...

@z3ntix 5 месяцев назад

Built my self a ITX build earlier this year. Normaly I use a few hours on a ATX build, but this time I spent almost a whole day 🤣Asus AP201 with 3d printed PSU bracket for Asus Loki 850w and 3d printed anti sag for GPU. Next project is making a template and 3d print or use acrylic sheet to hide the empty space right of motherboard. Almost 1,5cm clearance between PSU and GPU.

@TheLordNugget 5 месяцев назад

Well, I just built a new AM5 pc in a full size case. More my style as I like open loop systems. Next build will be a steampunk theme full size build again. I ran an ITX pc while in the corps, but if I ever do that again it will be highly dependent on the case and the purpose of it. I mean, technically I'm going to be working on an ITX rig but it's a NAS so I don't count it.