Building the UK's Fastest Off Road RC Car! - [On a Budget] - 6s FAIL! Part 2

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Part 2: 6s Speed Run Fail! This Cheap RC Car build is getting expensive! The Total build cost is now around £300... but still...
....it's a lot cheaper than most of the big players out there with their Arrma's, Teknos & Hobao Off Road Speed Monsters!
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@THYC 3 года назад

"We could have a fire on our hands here, but let's keep going!" 😂😂😂😂👏

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

Hahahahaha

@Ekzit21 3 года назад

I am an artist , and see you working at your garage just showed me that what really matters is enjoy what you are doing, I always knew that , but something clicked this time. Thanks

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

Thank you. For me it's not always about fancy edits and studios.... it's about making stuff and having fun

@TX-ml2pk 3 года назад

amazing i agree u have no idea how fortunate u r to have life like that doing wat u love and just enjoying it hope u the best

@brandonmathis1335 3 года назад

Found you when I was looking for an rc fix between Kevin Talbot videos. Glad I did. Love the content presented with a positive attitude. Keep it up!

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

Cheers mate. I like to try and get some variety on the channel. Thanks for the support. I can’t do entertainment as well as Kev, but I have fun with these type of projects 😎👍

@marsbase3729 3 года назад

@@TomleyRC appreciate your effort mate. You've got a good take on RC's and make it fun. 👍😎👍

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

@Marcel Schuller Thanks dude

@jameswilliams2633 3 года назад

Awesome content again buddy! Laughed at the "Kev" style drop off the table 🤣. Look forward to the next one. Stay safe mate

@piston_7 3 года назад

Love the look of this rc car

@craigpoer 3 года назад

This is fun. Anyone can build a stupid fast car for $3000. Doing it for $400 is the real challenge. Different motor might get you there. Great video

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

Thanks Craig... I like to do little projects like this. Easy to throw the best of everything in and go from there. I like a challenge!

@britishrcplayground4929 3 года назад

I think Kevin Talbot would win this off-road thing with his off-road arrma typhon 😂

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

Yeah... how much has he spent on that haha. Could he beat me with a $350 Budget 😉👌

@TheCatapultHunter 3 года назад

No but it will go triple times as fast 😉😉

@stevemoon2136 3 года назад

*3 times as fast.

@restinpiecesrc5528 3 года назад

Hes reaching around 80 is the highest ive heard so far

@joshchatwin8179 3 года назад

I’m sure kevs one has hit close to 90

@restinpiecesrc5528 3 года назад

If youre using the 4068 racerstar 1900kv, i had issues with mine straight from the start, try the surpass hobby motors

@rc_kars_beat865 3 года назад

Just the look of the rc car is sick

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

Yes, agree.... it looks awesome!

@DomsRCs 3 года назад

Very cool, I like how you do more budget and cheaper reviews sometimes as it is In the price range for all. I like kevs vids but I kinda prefer your style of videos, dont tell him though lol

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

Thanks mate, I like to do affordable stuff. Kev’s nailed the entertainment bracket... I’m more for a bit of informative & mild entertainment 👍🏻

@obsidiannightwolfe13 2 года назад

This. When I wanna veg out and watch without learning anything, I go to Kevin. If I wanna learn I come to Tomley

@seb.9775 3 года назад

Looks epic , the rear end looks jacked up a bit , it would be sick with hoons on it

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

Yes, front has been set lower on the droop screws to help keep the front down at speed. I may have to do a 'Hoon' Street Run with it

@rcmindset2876 3 года назад

It looks good! Cool video idea!

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

Thanks mate

@stevenmillar8810 3 года назад

mibby the new solid diff is putting to much stress on the motor no give

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

Yeah possibly, although I'd have expected it to be ok at speed...and only cog at low speeds. I'll throw the other one in when I change the motor and try it that way first 😎👍

@RCModSquad 3 года назад

It does look really cool. I’ll be watching to see what happens next. 👍🏻

@gamebosan5965 3 года назад

Love this design

@MCsCreations 3 года назад

Beautiful car, dude! Looks much better with those wheels! 😃 Didn't go that well on 6s, but... Who needs 6s? Just put a higher kv motors in there. 😊 Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

I have a bigger motor to try.... so will gear down and see how it copes.

@TheNathan643 3 года назад

Slick looking bro really is... 👍👍👍

@panzadeviborarc9613 3 года назад

Amazing, amazing video and truck!!! Congrats Bro!! Yeaaah!!

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

Cheers dude

@michaelfear4801 Год назад

I absolutely love the look of this one,

@Fonzierc 3 года назад

If there is no fire it's okay 😂 shame about the motor . this is a great build

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

Haha, a fire would of made for a bit better entertainment 😎

@Fonzierc 3 года назад

@@TomleyRC Lol 😂 obviously

@gerardvailoces646 3 года назад

man this truggy looks good!

@ernestcoker6665 3 года назад

I done did with a redcat gen 7 5200kv brushless motor 120amp esc dumborc 6x with a slipper clutch

@BigBRC 3 года назад

Not bad at all for the budget 👌

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

Yeah, although not really cheap, it's about half the price of the big names

@filsdedieu100 3 года назад

I like your videos .

@gbraadnl 3 года назад

The difference with the ESC is likely that they added a MOSFET which therefore increases the current they can switch. Most MOSFETs do 30A for each... hence the increase from 120 (4x) to 150 (5x).

@lyricalcoma1979 3 года назад

I might get rid of my kraton 4s and get this one instead, it looks super easy to work on and super fun to bash, nice vid

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

4s Kraton is a nice truck. This is more inline with the 6s range

@DoRC 3 года назад

Gearing down refers to reducing the overall gear ratio. Gearing up refers to increasing the overall gear ratio. Using the terms to describe changing physical gear sizes is ambiguous because youcan increase one gear or decrease its mating gear to achieve the same purpose.

@ScarpeonlineOrg 3 года назад

I like your experiments :D

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

Cheers mate. I really enjoy doing these kind of builds

@rcmindset2876 3 года назад

It would be good tosee those two speed controls taken apart and see if you see what components are different on the boards that allows the 30amp difference. It would interesting.

@ELValenin 3 года назад

They're probably submerged in epoxy for waterproofing

@malurt112 3 года назад

EL Valenin You're right. Tried to take mine apart. Broke all the screwheads off, since they were stuck in epoxy.

@carloshnunez 3 года назад

You should try to install dual motors and esc with big pinions and 6s

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

Trying to keep costs low on this one

@carloshnunez 3 года назад

@@TomleyRC Ok but if you want the world fastest one you have to try something like this, maybe if you find a different motor you can swap, also the grass is given allot of drag

@RCunexttuesday 3 года назад

BuT LeTs KeEp GoInG!🤣👍🏼 We had the 4076 motor turn up this morning, going to have to keep an eye on it now cheers tomley😤😂 we stuck that 150a esc in the Maxx, unprogrammed it made that thing move🤯

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

I suppose it depends what you are putting it in. The gearing on this was not ideal lol. Was fine with the 13t Pinion. I have a cheap 4585 Rocket motor that I’m hoping will fit... it’s a monster!

@thierrymaillard820 3 года назад

It’s quite a special design 👍

@RCSomething 3 года назад

C'est moche. Mais c'est drôle :)

@DriftomaniacsRC 3 года назад

11:28 you're right that didn't sound nice, I'm thinking twin power hobby turbo fan on the motor, and a single power hobby turbo fan on the esc would help a lot, if it's cooler it'll run more efficiently. Although I'm thinking bigger esc and new motor! Stay safe my friend

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

I have a big 4585 1580kv motor that I’m hoping will fit! That should move this along with all that torque!

@malurt112 3 года назад

Damn, I was hoping it could take 6S. I have the Pirates 2 V3 monster truck and had the exact same issue. 4S no problem. 6S cogging inconsistently, in the middle of a cogging pass I suddenly had full 6S power. This was with 30mm axle extenders and E-Revo wheels on, 11 tooth pinion and the stock 4074 orange motor. It ended in a severely grinded pinion which locked the car at 40 mph, and that was the last time I ever tried 6S. And anyways, the crazy balooning on 4S, pretty much meant the massive Louise E-Revo tyres would have caught each other at a speed, I'm not wanting to try my luck on.

@malurt112 3 года назад

The ESC still works a year later, having a great time in a Slash 4x4 never exceeding 3S on the stock Velineon. I really want to love the Pirates truck, but it takes alot of maintaining compared to the Slash. But when take the price into consideration, I had to get it. It was my first Banggood product, delivered in less than a week, RTR for 170£. Very impressive, but the stock wheels was the lowest possible quality and broke on the third jump, which was no more than half a meter.. My truck have always had a grinding metallic noise(not gear mesh) and on it's last outing the front diff had to throw in the towel. It's now sitting on a shelf waiting on parts, so I'm guessing next year.

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

Pretty sure the motor is the issue. Have a bigger motor to try next

@malurt112 3 года назад

Tomley RC I look forward to that video and hope you’re right. I really like the handling of the Pirates truck when the wheels are reduced to 100mm diameter. I have not given up on it yet, cause when I drive it, I love it. But now in the shed, it’s just sitting there, constant reminding me of banggood shipping times😩

@randomrc4198 3 года назад

Can you make a full metal wltoys a959 brushless

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

Maybe :)

@ScarpeonlineOrg 3 года назад

I love the A959 it is a little demon!

@randomrc4198 3 года назад

@@ScarpeonlineOrg yeah I'm wait for all the metal parts to turn up for mine and I'm putting a 1/10 motor in mine

@gbraadnl 3 года назад

Got several, like A949 (narrow), A969, A979 (9 in total). Only use a metal bottom plate on most. The rest is unnecessary, unless you put an oversized brushless motor in. I would expect it being heavier and hard to handle nonetheless. So far, I didnt deem it worthy .

@randomrc4198 3 года назад

@@gbraadnl Well that's the best thing about this hobby if the motor is to powerful I'll put a smaller metal one in

@neilwalmsley79 3 года назад

Sticking 25.2v through a 23v max crappy Banggood motor. To be expected on grass even though you’re not quite maxing out the RPM. You’ll get more out of a higher kV 4s rated setup using motors from bangers. 👍

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

Big boy motor going in soon. Should handle the power 🤘

@restinpiecesrc5528 3 года назад

Tomley, i run the 150a and 2250kv 4076 surpass on 15t pinion and i get 47 running the pin spike truggy on a curved short run, running 2 2s 5000mah 45c, its a capable system

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

Good set up 👌

@christianwornall1047 3 года назад

Well just took my vxl rustler out up the field for a top speed run 62mph stock geaing and then put high speed geaing in got 77.5 MPH on the grass this thing is bonkers 62mph is enough 😜

@OldfartRC1 3 года назад

Go for the 1700kv 4076 of you want to run 6s. The 2000kv is definitely pushing it at that voltage

@rcalltypes8230 3 года назад

I’d replace that motor, with something like a 4092 1600kv Or at least a 4082 size motor. 4068 is to small, for a Truggy doing the off-road speed runs. 4068 (1512) 4075 (1515) 4082 (1518) A cheap 4092, will get you good results on 6s off-road. With a budget in mind. Cheaper then any 50 series motors.

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

Yeah, I think I have a 4082 I can try. At least I know the cheap ESC is good with 6s 👍🏻

@rcalltypes8230 3 года назад

@@TomleyRC Definitely try the 4082, if you have it. Keep up the good work 👍🏻😎

@filiped7298 3 года назад

Nice looking car. It could look even better with the biggest tires you can get

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

I will be doing a video with the big tyres 👍

@marsbase3729 3 года назад

Awesome car, but wow that esc fan is loud. It's like an off road hoover. 😆

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

Haha

@Thebramforpresident1 3 года назад

try Caster Racing ex 2 6s which cost about the same with ZD

@shanemcclain8562 2 года назад

When are u running this again I think it's still got more in it and I love watching ur videos like this

@M14armorer 3 года назад

The Surpass Rocket motors are excellent, many times their lower end econo motors are little more than junk

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

I have one on order

@gamebosan5965 3 года назад

U should get motor 4076 2000kv 6s..

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

I have a pretty big motor ready for it

@gamebosan5965 3 года назад

@@TomleyRC nice. I hope it can archive 100mph

@restinpiecesrc5528 3 года назад

If i couls get the 1/10 scale zd zmt10 diffs holding up i think it could break around 60 or 70

@keyleengarcia4987 3 года назад

Its the mortor not the esc i think cause the mortor doesnt take 6s from my experience

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

Yes it was the motor. New video coming soon. Big motor!

@darrennixon1986 3 года назад

Get the surpass hobby 4076 motor

@xKevmachinex 3 года назад

got the pirates2 with a 2200kv and 120 amp. things lasted about 20 runs so far. only issue was a screw on bottom tray came out just replaced it. always check tires too make sure they are good this thing has a habbit of losing from time to time. my only real complant is ya cant drive mine on roads with rocks or small stones. drove on gravel road and slightly bent one of my rear T axles a rock got jammed up. could make some home made gaurds to help. i only run large 3s. 8400 mah.

@sch0neDK 2 года назад

Nice. i have the same car. Running it with a 4068 2650KV on 3S. Stock gearing. its only 50Km/t, but i think its plenty fast :-)

@levestercornelius6630 Год назад

If you put a Cat-Pak on that 150A SurPass ESC it’s a MONSTER on 4s haven’t ran on 6s I have had 2 of them blow 🎉

@benwainwright8458 3 года назад

It's your motor . I run the same esc and 22t pinion on my 1/7 scale king motor rally car with no problem. I have a 4076 rocket motor and hit 60+mph with no over heating. I'm waiting for my roller to arrive it's the same so I will let you no how I get on . I have bought one of the 16s esc s of alliexpress for £175. So wish me look

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

Sounds a decent build! I have a couple of motors to try (still cheap so within the budget lol)

@rccarsandmusic2641 3 года назад

Regardless 49mph is impressive on grass 50+ would be pavement. A 4076 2000kv the way to go with fanned heatsink

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

Yes, it is actually pretty fast! I think there is 60mph in it.... new motor going in soon

@smashrc8481 3 года назад

Try a job chetah on 4s that would be cheaper and faster

@gsxrfreak666 3 года назад

Diffs are real poor quality on that car destroyed 5 diffs in 2 months

@rccarsandmusic2641 3 года назад

Could be motor over heating get heatsink and fan, at least 20000rpm fan

@MauzyrockRC 3 года назад

So was it the perhaps small looking can? or friction from diff? It looks like a mean machine...

@rccarsandmusic2641 3 года назад

Use a Redcat Kaiju 6s ESC or Arrma

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

Gotta keep the costs down. Even though I have a spare Max6 & an Arrma 185 BLX... I want to keep it in line with the concept of ‘budget’

@rccarsandmusic2641 3 года назад

@@TomleyRC Good deal Chap 4076 can be had for 30 usd

@Cannabis_Connoisseur 3 года назад

Seems like the Kraton 4s is only about 50 bucks more and a lot faster and better parts availability. I still wish I could get stuff like this just to experiment with in the US. Either shipping times are unreliable or the few company's that have them in stock try to mark them up so much an arrma ends up the same or cheaper and the places that sell them never have parts. Still love your content and thanks for showing some other options.

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

Yeah the 4s is decent. But this is more comparable with the 6s range, but less than half the cost.

@rickwest9764 3 года назад

Won't upping the kv of the motor fix it I use 4370kv on 3s and its doing similar speeds

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

Got to get the right balance between KV & Gearing/load. Lower KV higher gearing would work better

@stevemoon2136 3 года назад

I wonder what's the secret diff sauce...

@justinjones5281 3 года назад

Doesn’t push full 6s properly. What do you think. Seems as though this esc maxes out just over 4 s

@fran.6496 3 года назад

Will it be more of this car?

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

Yes 😎👍

@carbonara7246 3 года назад

Hi again

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

Hi again :)

@adopancia7445 3 года назад

Nice! Do you remember the diameter of these wheels? I am trying to make some maths about gearing...

@Greatgadgetsgear 3 года назад

Hmmm never heard of a 120a esc being 6s capable. 150a yes. Hobbywing 120a only rated 4s.

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

I've not dared to try the 120a on 6s lol

@Greatgadgetsgear 3 года назад

Good thing! Lol. Good video 😁

@slysplasteringsly1012 3 года назад

What speed was it with the big tyres. ?????. Just out of intrest

@RockHash 3 года назад

It looks nice but I gotta see the specs

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

Link in the description

@tharunyadav4429 3 года назад

Hi my frend you have any rc pats

@rafinijean-michel2425 3 года назад

Hello I received the truggy, the pinions and the differential ordered with your links I just ordered a Surpass 4076 2250kv motor and the big 150A ESC the big motor for the next one What is the pinion you would put with this motor and the differential ? Children will ride in 4S with this truggy The next buggy in 6S Unfortunately the wheels are no longer available

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

I’d go with maybe a 15 or 16... see how it goes

@rafinijean-michel2425 3 года назад

@@TomleyRC Thank you for the answer. Do you find the truggy solid?

@scot0811 3 года назад

Brilliant video! Edit: I would like to ask , at what stage did banggood start to send rcs to you for review ? Looking to start from my c241

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

About 2yrs ago mate. Had around 1k subscribers

@scot0811 3 года назад

@@TomleyRC Thanks mate!

@NCMOUNTAINSbackyardRC 3 года назад

Looking forward too.. 👍

@rccarsandmusic2641 3 года назад

Need surpass 4076 2000kv

@kevinbernitz6580 3 года назад

Would be interested in how fast this build goes on 4S with the original wheels too...

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

Yes, I will be doing a run with the stock wheels at some point

@jaredstlouis5435 3 года назад

It's your battery voltage dropping because your gearing is off. Lvc

@Piaspeedy 2 года назад

whats the size of the esc? aliexpress says its 16cm by 10 cm by 6cm😂 i am trying to find a cheap 1 8 system for my 1 10 rc

@mikelalkorta870 2 года назад

1.900 kv .motor is not in stock. Can i have 2050kv? Thanks

@litrc7194 3 года назад

Just keep it as a 4s buggy

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

I will once I've got as much speed out of it as possible

@rchobbiesuk9492 3 года назад

Great video!! Was this filmed on a gopro? It looks flawless!

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

Yes, Hero 9 (4k 60fps). Although the little intro bit at the beginning was on my proper camera not a GoPro.

@rchobbiesuk9492 3 года назад

@@TomleyRC I thought that im still trying to get the right balance, my gopro 7black if I go 4k 60fps its only wide (fisheye) dose your 1 do this?

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

@@rchobbiesuk9492 Yes a little, but I crop it down a bit so it’s not as obvious. I also have a 7 Black... really good cameras 👍🏻

@toddwidelitz48 3 года назад

Put that esc/motor in a better vehicle.

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

What would you suggest?

@RockHash 3 года назад

My BLX is a 185A and would never risk a 8S

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

The BLX185 are 150A

@mikelalkorta870 2 года назад

Hello. Link to god batery ,ñlease? T,xt?

@EG-vy2lm 3 года назад

The motor died because it’s rated 4s. The 1900kv would have been perfect for that setup with 6s

@540_god.p5 3 года назад

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

@keekay_cg32c7.r2 3 года назад

Try a Castle system the Mamba Monster X with the 1515 motor combo is really good if not try get up to Kevin's level with the Mamba Monster X 8s and 1717 combo and run 8s ;)

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

‘On a Budget’ 😅

@draganblastovicz7487 3 года назад

Pretty worrying knowing you’re an aircraft electrician.. May I ask on witch airplanes you worked?

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

Why is it worrying? I’ve been one for 23yrs. I’m currently the Senior Wiring specialist for 4 different Aircraft types. I’ve done everything from Small Military Fast Jets to Passenger Aircraft. These are Toy cars... 😎

@FlyingPhilUK 3 года назад

Not a 6s motor: Max Voltage: 23V(1900KV) 6s = 25.2V Fully charged

@mikelalkorta870 2 года назад

Can you put RU-vid to translate other lenguaje.?tha ks

@mehimrc1314 3 года назад

Unfortunately that was a big fail,shame as your kev talbot only rival or so I've seen so far. Come dude you've got to do better,I know you've said budget but you'll have to dip in somewhere. My little cheetah out paces you on 3s just mind with 80amp ESC 15t pinion.

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

I’ve got a big ‘Rocket’ motor in my limitless... I’m sure it’s only about £40, that should be man enough. Next hurdle will be tyres

@mehimrc1314 3 года назад

@@TomleyRC sounds like a plan if the shoe fits why not. £40 is still budget,you'll probably need a new ESC and your wheel could be bigger. I lose a lot o speed when I drop from 140mm to 100mm wheels. Good luck with your tires