Building up to AMD's Vega GPUs

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When I made this video it wasn't even out, but I pieced together all of the information we knew about it building up to its launch in the hope of capturing what it felt like to be almost there... but not quite. Here, I cover its story, from announcement up until a few weeks before official benchmarks.
0:07 - Vega on the roadmaps, speculation about announcement
2:04 - Pre-announcement framerates and information
2:44 - AMD's After the Uprising
4:23 - Responses to announcement
5:07 - Later events that mention Vega
6:27 - Vega FE release
7:00 - RX Vega's marketing
8:04 - Fury X VS 1080 frametimes - Think I've found the reason: AA! • What's Up With The Har...
8:26 - RX Vega's price and offers
9:40 - Finewine
Hoping that this video will get people up to date with the situation and that it will be interesting to look back in in the future, when things have long moved on. I've tried my best to be factual though I also share my hate of fanboys from both sides on a number of my videos as I thought it was quite a big part of the Vega story to date. In short: see this video as entertainment, and follow up on the references below if you want to learn more.
0:07 - AMD Roadmap - arstechnica.co...
0:15 - Pascal reveal - www.guru3d.com/...
2:00 - Vega in H1 2017 - wccftech.com/ve...
2:22 - Vega on Doom in Dec 2016, by Tekknological - • Doom 4K (Vulkan) on AM...
2:36 - Vega VS Geforce 1080 - by Bang4BuckPC Gamer - • AMD VEGA faster than G...
2:44 - AMD After the Uprising - • After the Uprising
3:07 - Vega’s new features - www.tomshardwar...
3:15 - AMD’s Doom demo, January 2017 - • Vega in Action: DOOM® ...
3:28 - AMD’s Making of drums - • Making of “After the U...
3:35 - Think Computer’s Vega Star Wars at CES - • AMD Ryzen + Vega Shown...
4:07 - AdoredTV’s sandbagging possibility - • Vega Clarification - H...
4:23 - AdoredTV saying it isn’t good enough - • Fallout: New Vega
5:07 - AMD’s Capsaicin and Cream event - • AMD Presents Capsaicin...
5:23 - Vega running Sniper Elite 4 - by DEE BATCH - • AMD 2017 Financial Ana...
5:45 - AMD’s Computex 2017 - • AMD at Computex 2017
6:12 - Vega’s release announcement - • AMD at Computex 2017
6:21 - Anandtech’s RX Vega release slated for Aug 14th - www.anandtech.c...
6:21 - Gamersnexus also covers launch price - www.gamersnexus...
6:28 - Anandtech’s Vega FE release announcement - www.anandtech.c...
6:33 - Pictures of Vega from this review - www.pcper.com/...
6:46 - Gamersnexus conclusion on Vega - www.gamersnexus...
7:05 - Pictures from WCCFTech’s article here - wccftech.com/am...
7:24 - Slides from AMD’s RX Vega launch - www.hardwarecan...
7:58 - freesync monitors - hexus.net/tech/...
8:01 - gsync monitors - pcmonitors.inf...
8:11 - Fcat comparison - www.guru3d.com/...
8:16 - Anandtech comparison - www.anandtech.c...
9:22 - Vega’s page on Radeon’s site - gaming.radeon....
9:53 - Anandtech’s Rasterisation article 1 - www.anandtech.c...
9:58 - Anandtech’s Rasterisation article 2 - www.anandtech.c...
10:03 - No tile based rasterizing enabled on Vega yet - digiworthy.com/...
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@PurityXD 7 лет назад

Are we just not going to talk about how vega and navi are both CS:GO pro teams?

@androo8400 7 лет назад

So you're saying that Vega is gonna be bad, but Na'Vi, if you wait a bit, has potential to be insane?

@Frezorx 7 лет назад

did he say something like that quazx? i dont think so

@androo8400 7 лет назад

XrangeViking I'm makin a joke bud

@applehack97 7 лет назад

I knew I wasn't the only one!

@Zach-cs5rp 7 лет назад

those and polaris are all names of bright stars

@MrMaxim 7 лет назад

Just released and 4 dislikes already, wat

@69ms 7 лет назад

You have a feminine penis

@jhojanezf 7 лет назад

He disliked with each of his accounts

@miksuko 7 лет назад

nvidia

@amauryhucks1510 7 лет назад

He stays humble and dislikes his own vid, with all his accounts

@CraytexOnYT 7 лет назад

damn released nine minutes ago and nine dislikes. People should finish watching the video before disliking -_- lol

@sidharthratnam2979 7 лет назад

Who needs notifications when you are always on RU-vid :p

@sir.barnaby6328 7 лет назад

Who needs RU-vid when there is Vidme p:

@SweRaider1993 7 лет назад

I keep seeing this comment everywhere... Why is everyone such a copycat nowadays...?

@ralakus8784 7 лет назад

Who needs original comments when you have copy and paste?

@sir.barnaby6328 7 лет назад

Who needs copy and paste when you can type manually?

@trudaftgunpunk 7 лет назад

Your videos are beginning to stay over 10min I'm pleased cause of this, you deserve it Thanks for keeping me in the loop Philip 🌟💡❤🏃😆👍🌟💡❤🏃😆👍

@beorn6193 7 лет назад

Great video! Very informative.

@Legion-495 7 лет назад

Damn I really like that channel... after all those years... I finally subbed. I somehow always end up here through all of youtube. Destiny?! Waiting for benchmarks... I'm eyeing a Sapphire version using it with my 3 FHD Eyefinity Setup... And I certainly would use Chill as I am fine with 60FPS. However if Vega hardcore flops still(I expected ~1080 performance) I might as well wait for Volta if it will hit... still hate NvidiaSurround to death tho.

@timtrotman6779 7 лет назад

I have no clue what any of this means, I just like hearing his voice

@baumstamp5989 7 лет назад

good vid, nice explanations!

@DunkeysLongLostSon 7 лет назад

I was planning on getting a R7 1700 anyway, so I don't mind spending a bit extra for 2 games and the RX Vega 56.

@TomasEPC 7 лет назад

I have no idea what you're talking about but I like it

@divineminergames 7 лет назад

I switched from AMD to NVidia because I wanted to upgrade and they didn't have anything to compete with the 1080 so I ended up getting it, the few frames between the two don't matter, what I say as a AMD lover, If its cheaper and gets close or around the same Performance why not get it?

@SalveMonesvol 7 лет назад

To make a serious impact, Bega 56 needs to be at least 10% faster and 10% cheaper than a gtx 1070, to actually run 1440p at 100+ fps.

@IncapableLP 7 лет назад

Here is my Thing with Vega: Back in 2016 i decided it is time to throw my GTX670 out of the System! I am pushing 1440p and...yeah 2GB VRAM aren't doing it and you also need some power to push the resolution itself, so a new card was needed. I decided pretty early on: "I want power!" I never really went and grabbed "The best thing you can get for money!", i am more of the "Fast, but reasonable price!", which is usually the card below the flaggship! Not this time. I really wanted the best there is and at the time, we KNEW, that nVidia and AMD both had something prepared. That was BEFORE AMD said, that Polaris is not going to be high end. So i waited. Pascall came and delivered quite the performance and then AMD came and said, that Polaris isn't going to be the GPU, i was hoping for. In the end, it was a smart move from AMD to tackle the mid- and low-range, because that is what people buy, but not me. I played with the thought of waiting until Vega, but i wanted something NOW and without a clear launch date for Vega, i went for the 1080! Now..OVER A YEAR LATER...Vega arrives and besides the price... I am not really sold on Vega! Actually i am disappointed. Took them one year to BARELY catch up, from what we know at the moment? Not really a great performance. MSRP of 499 is...okay! Just "okay"! Why? Because you can get 1080's for a similar price here (in germany!), if you search for it. So in the end, AMD is delivering a product, that doesn't tackle the absolute High-End and instead competes with a card that is over 1 year old already (which is a lot of time in terms of GPU development!). It will probably get hotter and will drain more power (Seriously AiO AND 2x8-Pin?), despite a new architecture and the better memory? That is my overall problem with Vega! For all the time they had...this is a pretty weak performance, especially when you compare it to their Ryzen Launch, which kicked Intel so hard in the nuts, they had to actually DO SOMETHING! I mean the Core i9 don't happen, because Intel feels like it! And nVidia? Seriously, they had 1 year to bring their NEXT generation to the front line. It isn't there yet, but do you think, they're sleeping? While AMD was busy "just" catching up, they're preparing the next thiung, that will overthrow everything, AMD has to use for the next year, probably two! For me, Vega is too little too late! I am not an nVidia fanboy. I'd GLADLY buy AMD, heck i did, when Ryzen came out, because Ryzen really did it for me, but Vega just looks like something nVidia already did 1 year ago. All they have to do, is to lower the price of the 1080 by maybe 20 bucks and THADDAAA, they have a product competing with Vega, without having to actually do something!

@Freelancerk1bbles 7 лет назад

I'm just going to say again that I personally don't think pixel resolution is massively important, especially with the awesomeness that is TSAA (Temporal Supersample Anti Aliasing). What I want is more resolution in time, that is: framerate. So if amd wants to really impress me, show a modern game running at 400, 500, 1000 fps. I want framerate removed from the latency equation, but a simple constant of 1ms would be alright too.

@johandodenedgren7557 7 лет назад

The bundle and mostly the preformance made me go in to a drunken frenzy and order a 1080 ti (asus strix Oc something). so if they have been sandbaging they just sandbaged them selfs out of a sale.

@TheSerbianEmperor 7 лет назад

Blah blah blah blah, Nvidia fanboy, blah blah. I don't think AMD's going to be able to compete with Nvidia's high, high end GPU's, but same performance as 1080 for a lower price can be an amazing deal. Especially considering Vega uses HBM2 memory and has full and proper DX12 support, as well as better maturing drivers, which in the long run could possibly make a significant difference between the two. Top end enthusiasts will still most probably be buying 1080ti, but High end budget gamers will have a fine selection with 1070, 1080's and Vega GPU's. AMD's been absolutely demolishing Intel as of late, but I don't think they will be able to compare to Nvidia, at least not this generation. Let's hope Ryzen's massive success brings AMD enough money so they can widen their R&D department and bring give us a proper competition on both fronts. And for the record, I own both, I like both. I don't hate either side, just buying what the best I can for the money I have.

@imagic34 7 лет назад

good point

@mistaenforcer9666 7 лет назад

Amd just wants to target a very specific demographic. They never meant to compete with 1080ti. They were focusing on providing a more stable gaming experience. If people have loads of money, they'll obviously throw them at companies whenever new stuff comes out. Just like some iphone users buy a new iphone every year. But people who think long term and don't want to spend too much for just gaming, will prefer hardware that will last them a while. Not necessarily with top performance. But stable and reasonable performance at a mid-range price. Because 240 fps doesn't mean shit when you have a monitor that can only go upto 140 or something. If amd can utilise vulkan and dx12, the future looks bright; Not for companies, but for us consumers.

@xIcarus227 7 лет назад

"They never meant to compete with 1080ti" That's the stupidest thing I've heard all day. AMD's end goal is to compete with Nvidia and Intel in every price segment, such that they can maximize their profit - any company that sells something and has competitors is striving to do this. AMD simply failed to meet expectations with Vega, I don't get why you're covering up for them.

@Magicmushroomboi 7 лет назад

What if a plan for vega is to match the performance of a 1080 for a much much cheaper cost??

@AyedYoutube 7 лет назад

Then they're 1 year late

@Gr1ffz 7 лет назад

Brilliant video.

@martijnXVI 7 лет назад

I wanted a Vega card, but with all the delays i couldn't. They are releasing Vega when my summer vacation has almost ended. What a shame tbh. I went for a GTX 1080 instead.

@ilovecodemonkeys 6 лет назад

Does the higher wattage requirement make sense because they push the cards harder in the future? EDIT: Does the software update push the hardware harder? I have no experience with AMD graphics cards. To make it wine software it has to have the right hardware to expand into, right? It is a smart move for people who often play the long con.

@anusficker4life965 7 лет назад

now that i see this, somehow a question comes to my mind: would it be profitable for gpu producers to start constructing gpu's for bitcoin miners?

@KytosYT 7 лет назад

well, if rapid packed math, tiled based rasterization and dx12/vulkan is used we can only expect vega to be super fast. But right now is so disappointing how is even worse than the fury x in IPC at the same MHz

@solfir4137 7 лет назад

imagine if amd uses vega core from doom for their release of rx vega

@breadsanta6414 7 лет назад

first vega, then navi? Whats next? Gambit?

@de_gale 7 лет назад

i need something to compete with a 1080ti since thats what im in the market for currently, i need a vega 64 ti ;) to fuck over nvinida and bring the prices way down/

@theodorewinstone-hooper1446 7 лет назад

are we not going to talk about how its named after celestia

@MajorLeagueBassboost 7 лет назад

The AMD pro something has TWO TERRABYTES OF VRAM

@jort93z 7 лет назад

i dont think vega will not beat pascal in price to performance but if it does, cool.

@BudgetBuildsOfficial 7 лет назад

The lowest end VEGA card seems to be where it is at, with barely better mining abilities than an RX580 and a higher TDP it's unlikely miners will want them, and with Freesync it should bring some competition to the GTX1070-1080 area. Let's just hope VEGA can do something!

@metamancer2775 7 лет назад

undesirable hardware is my favorite

@sebastianposey6583 7 лет назад

Where did you get the info on mining?

@GraveUypo 7 лет назад

375w running 24/7 is actually closer to $60 per MONTH with the rates i have here. maybe high 40's in the US. i'm reluctant to buy vega cards... i want a more powerful freesync-enabled card so i don't have much choice, but damn... maybe i should just get another rx480 (if i can ever buy one again) and wait for navi

@metamancer2775 7 лет назад

A quick math lesson on how to calculate electricity costs so that people don't argue over how much it costs :) 1) Find how much power is being used (375 W is the best estimate for now) 2) Find how much you pay for electricity per kW/h (average is around $0.10 per kW/h in the US) Take that electricity cost per kW/h, divide by 1000, multiply by the amount of power being used, and multiply by the number of hours that much power is being used. 0.1 /1000, * 375 * 12 * 365 running a graphics card consuming 375 W for 12 hours each day for a year, for example, will cost you $164.25 if you pay $0.1 for kW/h For most people the figure will be less because 12 hours of full utilization each day is higher than normal.

@GraveUypo 7 лет назад

i know no one uses a card at full load 24/7 all month. a more realistic regular scenario if you're not mining it's safe to assume 1/8 of that cost per month at most. but i do mine with my pc whenever i'm not actively using the processing power (no reason not to), so i care :P

@samzala 7 лет назад

Really looking forward to seeing how the RX Vega 56 will perform in reviews.

@dopplerganger44 7 лет назад

I want vega 64 though

@WayStedYou 7 лет назад

undervolting will probably work well for the vega 56

@henkpotgieter5299 7 лет назад

I am building a new ryzen pc and now waiting on vega 56

@Gabriel-nb2gg 7 лет назад

ea09 mad novideo fanboy

@ea09 7 лет назад

Cristian Gabriel Capatina Man, you AMD fanboys are unbearable.

@sabbatweedfroggaminghd3765 7 лет назад

*4k as soon as it's uploaded*

@metamancer2775 7 лет назад

*scheduled upload*

@CrizeR6772 7 лет назад

maybe he just did the subtitles first and then published

@ownubadboy10 7 лет назад

He made it private until it was 4k

@z_zoom11 7 лет назад

Potato>computer

@olibearws 7 лет назад

not a real user name lel

@Lordofwarz 7 лет назад

not a real user name potato can be used to make chips

@ぐえ-p2u 7 лет назад

gordon good meme

@olibearws 7 лет назад

Dank memes

@z_zoom11 7 лет назад

gordon or power a clock

@sennevanheghe6615 7 лет назад

It wasn't battlefront 2 rogue one, it was battlefront rogue one. Battlefront 2 is planned to release this fall

@sennevanheghe6615 7 лет назад

No problem :)

@abdussalamalam100 7 лет назад

I feel like AMD is delaying too much because its they dont have anything against 1080ti. The freesync 2 and gamer packs is kinda nice, but nvidia can just release volta and demolish AMD.

@Nick-nb1jy 7 лет назад

4 As long as the pricing is good and there is value gtx 1080 performance sells well.

@CraytexOnYT 7 лет назад

damn released nine minutes ago and nine dislikes. People should finish watching the video before disliking -_-

@cyjan3k823 7 лет назад

CrayTex just like hey should wait before liking it. But when people like ot so fast it is t the problem smh

@vincethebanana 7 лет назад

CrayTex who cares, if it was a problem then something about it would have been changed about it already

@MGThePro 7 лет назад

3:53 Are you saying AMD is going to release an optimized driver on release date? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) jkjk, I wish AMD the best of luck

@MGThePro 7 лет назад

2kliksphilip are you saying amd delayed the launch of vega to make good drivers? I highly doubt that because AMD doesnt really care about good driver support on launch

@bbc6rgf57ytty5yxyw5gt 7 лет назад

I have to agree, the 480 and Ryzen launches would have been much better if the drivers were good.

@Arch-Tau 7 лет назад

Hello, I AM VEGA, the sentient intelligence assigned to Mars. After running diagnostics on your Praetor Suit, it appears that I can activate optional challenges that, when completed, will assist in upgrading your arsenal at an accelerated pace.

@WayStedYou 7 лет назад

Poor volta is just "poor voltage" with the side covered over with sticker

@WayStedYou 7 лет назад

I know it was kind of a joke that vega was going to use a lot of power though :P

@sportsfamily77 7 лет назад

I like watching pre launch videos of a product that flopped. Maybe next time ayymd.

@SumitShrivastava17 7 лет назад

The only difference that I see between NVIDIA and INTEL regarding how they have pursued their market dominance. Intel did not focus on innovation (regarding how consumers think) And became egoistic about their dominance and controlled the monopoly way too much. Just went after the cash. NVIDIA on the other hand, though controlled a lot of monopoly on the higher ground, they actually make sure that the R&D is worth it. That the cost you pay, actually gives you a jump in performance. Just look at how the 10 series changed how mobile gaming was. A last gen 960M was being soundly beaten by a 1050ti. That's why I feel, Vega is good, but it won't pull off a Ryzen like comeback or grab eyeballs. Threadripper would...Coz again INTEL

@totisa93 7 лет назад

Sumit Shrivastava wut? Back in the days generation by generation you got 50% more performance. Now when Nvidia got a monopoly you hope to get 20%

@manmansgotmans 7 лет назад

I don't care about the gpus, let's talk about the wine

@TheBanjoShowOfficial 7 лет назад

It's like a war for people, in between which company they pick to provide them their hardware. It's as if people believe there is something noble to sticking with a company despite ups and downs. The companies don't give a shit if you decide to stay "loyal" because there will always be someone out there that will take your spot. We're in a capitalistic society, you fuck up-you fall; and rightfully so. You shouldn't grow an attachment to a company because that causes problems and disputes. Just use whatever is working better for a better price, leave the friendship shit behind. This isn't fucking teletubbies.

@RexTribution 7 лет назад

2:12 It is Star Wars Battlefront EA, not 2 haha But nice video, love you

@shatley123 7 лет назад

I just found it kind of funny this video has presentations of Doom and Battlefront 2. If you're eyes were closed you could mistake it with a different time period.

@glitchyjoe64 7 лет назад

and the comment section already is broken

@legendmarrie 7 лет назад

Was hoping you would make this vid, great job👌

@andrewheil1158 7 лет назад

So... from everything I've heard is showing Vega isn't all it's cracked up to be.

@Worgen4ik 7 лет назад

Philip, 2 months have been pass since RX Vega launch. Make a new video already... Please 😅

@computer5272 7 лет назад

I'm sure AMD will sell fine and be great for the budget market but it's not looking like they'll ever be able to take the enthusiast market.

@heresjemmy 7 лет назад

Philip pls stop disliking your own videos

@SanHydraxon 7 лет назад

What is all this hate? Novideo fanboys? Edit: What I meant is when I clicked on the video there were more dislikes than likes. Edit 2: And no, I don't hate neither Novideo nor AyyyyyyyMD, I just prefer AMD.

@Trainer_Orange 7 лет назад

Until you own a 280x you don't know what novideo input really means. If you've never owned one, after 2 years all 3 of the 280x's in my friend group stopped working within months of eachother. Mine went first, starting with some light artifacting, purple trees in farcry 4, GTA V crashes, and not a month later it refused to boot. Ofcourse this was like 2 months after the 2 year warranty stopped. AMD is just as bad as Nvidia, planned obsolescence much.

@gen2428 7 лет назад

I have a feeling this comment will have 50 replies by tomorrow

@SanHydraxon 7 лет назад

What I meant is when I clicked on the video there were more dislikes than likes.

@alzarpomario889 7 лет назад

I still have bot hd7970 and gtx780. Both working and 7970 performing better than the gtx780. And 7970 is running at 1.27volt with modded gddr5 straps. Still rolling.

@jono_owa 7 лет назад

Ahmed Ghailani By Vega being shit you mean not as good as a 1080ti because saying what you just said makes no sense. Vega is still a good card so stfu.

@sNeakyGmng 7 лет назад

kliksphilip video longer than 10 minutes??? :O

@kailxy3 7 лет назад

Competition is healthy for us consumers and it's good that AMD started to be competitive, but AMD is really late with Vega. I mean Nvidia is just around a corner with Volta.

@ambhaiji 7 лет назад

if you take the year number to be the center of the year, polaris came out early and vega is extremely close

@sookmahroot 7 лет назад

I can't speak for others but I don't have any love for AMD.... But, I HATE Nvidia with a firey passion! Nvidia are almost as anti consumer as intel, they outright lie about their products and use their money through GameWorks to stifel competition by having developers code in a way that makes their cards look better than they are by gimping AMD (and their own older cards). Many Nvidia fanboys like to cry that DOOM is an "AMD" optimised game it is NOT; it's just not coded like garbage and taking Nvidia money to put pointless amounts of tessallation in the code. When you get games like DOOM that are coded efficiently AMD cards take Nvidia cards to the cleaners!

@sookmahroot 7 лет назад

P.S. Nvidia also LIE about their cards power usage! They take the usage from the base clock of the card which you CANNOT run the card at without flashing the BIOS and voiding your warrenty! Yet all their performance charts are taken from the BOOST clock!

@alittlelionfish 7 лет назад

As for Perf/Watt, Vega is even worse than Polaris.

@Bang4BuckPCGamer 7 лет назад

2:36 Those people who gave me all that stick for making my concerns known are not looking too clever now are they

@agreatusername622 7 лет назад

i have no idea what to comment

@2555 7 лет назад

same tbh

@ObitoUchihaisgay 7 лет назад

aGreatUsername Then dont moron

@rx10 7 лет назад

you can always coment how much of a piece of shit Vega is

@giantmonkey101 7 лет назад

Liquid Cooled Vega@1677Mhz will give me roughly 35% to 45% improvement in 1440p Ultra compared to my R9 Fury@1000mhz in games, this is not bad at all and this is based on current performance figures. When DSBR is enabled and an overclock on the HBM2 to over 1000Mhz from 945Mhz i'll see even more gains. Factor in Vega's Super FineWine Tech underneath the hood which includes massive FP16 performance numbers in games like Wolfeinstein 2 and Farcry 5 its looking really good, honestly the 1080 (performance already maxed)doesn't stand a chance against Vega (Tons of optimisation potential) in the future. Just buy a nice 750watt PSU + cause you would just be asking for trouble if its less than that.

@PartnershipsForYou 7 лет назад

>"shill" People do love this word huh? OMG YOU LIKE WATER OVER PEPSI? BIG WATER SHILL!!!!! People this unintelligent should not have access to a computer.

@yashadityasehgal2305 4 года назад

Oh boy, wait till you find out what happens in the future.

@bobpro583 4 года назад

Oh boy, this comment aged so well.

@PragandSens 3 года назад

ohhhh boy, this comment aged so fantasticaly

@PragandSens 3 года назад

ohhhh boy, this comment aged so fantasticaly

@yashadityasehgal2305 3 года назад

@Rafael Sá Fortes I regret saying this

@adoredtv 7 лет назад

The AMD fanboys Vega denial is on another level. Never seen anything like it, including back in the Bulldozer days.

@daweitao2668 7 лет назад

Fanboys on both sides kill discussion and rational analysis before it can even begin. Very sad. Top tip to them, don't identify with any company!

@TheCatOfWarCSGO 7 лет назад

Release day is gonna be tough for poor /r/amd

@DannyzReviews 7 лет назад

Agreed. It's been absolutely insane,

@evanmackenzie8173 7 лет назад

I don't get why people fanboy for either side, you are an idiot on either side if you do

@marcusrat4466 7 лет назад

Vega 64 is 1080 performance, at 1080 price, more power draw, and one year after the 1080.

@Aelfraed26 7 лет назад

1:18 the 560 is slower than the GTX 1050 Ti.

@jjaurrgui 7 лет назад

Yes daddy

@Isaax 7 лет назад

Vega isn't gonna have an impact on the GPU market like Ryzen had on the CPU market, sadly. I am still hoping for them and want AMD to have success, but Vega is just a real let down as it seems.

@davideverett2 7 лет назад

The price is disappointing and here in the UK pricing's gone through the roof since we voted to leave Europe so it's performance won't justify the price, especially if it win's some and loses some against the GTX1080.

@Mr11ESSE111 7 лет назад

RX VEga with everything what we see by now seems to have recipe to be shit of card !! infact AMD avoid to compare RX VEga vs gtx 1xxx cards with fps comparisons before release and that is saying almost anything what i want to know

@ruijikisu 7 лет назад

Ive heard some very concerning rumours about Vegas power consumption. People seem to forget to calculate power into the price. At least in my case having an nvidia card with less power consumption already lowers my power bill by enough to pay for the more expensive card.

@davideverett2 7 лет назад

Please stop using the AMD Fine Wine moniker it paints RTG's driver software in a negative light, Raja brought it up on stage at Capsaicin and told us why he doesn't like it and asked us not to use it, He said call it the user promise not Fine Wine.

@Cryyp3r 7 лет назад

I'm sure I'm gonna upset all the AMD Fanboys, but Vega is such trash, if you look at it objectively. It's basically a 1080 (after AMD's OWN BENCHMARKS, so probably worse), that consumes DOUBLE THE POWER, FOR THE SAME PRICE. Over 1 year later. I really hoped for a good card, but not like this. It's already hot enough in my room in Summer. Very sad, nVidia can probably sell their next generations "1180" for $1000+. At least RyZen is pretty good.

@pixels_and_plants 7 лет назад

I read NaVi and cry about GuardiaN :(

@Boorock70 7 лет назад

So... We are expected to pay $100 more for the "new" AMD VEGA GPU that consumes more power (a whooping +350W), runs much more hotter and works slower than the 1.5 year old nVidia rival (GTX 1080) - Did I miss anything ? Wow... Thanks for the offer but this is simply called disaster not even disappointment !

@MarceloTezza 7 лет назад

Sometimes feels like you've been watching my comments LOL! Yes the TBR is last of last hope, for something reasonable, i really would like to buy VEGA but the heatspreader for no real performance advantage is just too much, at 1080 performance levels, and a little bit more power, i would accept, 300-400 NO, probably would even need to buy a new PSU.

@TheHeArTStRiKe 7 лет назад

Minimum frame rates usually occur from frame drops due to getting information from the VRAM to the GPU, which on the Fury X is done a lot faster with its HBM memory rather than GDDR5/GDDR5X on the 1000 series, due to it having a much higher bandwidth with the cost of having less storage. They're showing minimum frame rates to show the potential of HBM2 and how it can revolutionize gaming. I'm not a hater in fact I enjoy your content, although they do show minimums to express how the VEGA is better (in some situations) than the GTX 1070/1080.

@kaelthassunstrider4559 7 лет назад

I just want something atleast similiar performance /price as 1070 even though I won't buy it :P but i'd ! because i want freesync instead of g-sync that's the whole raeson i buy amd. otherwise the 1060 and rx 480 used to be almost the same. and gtx 1060 wasn't as hot as my rx 480 and also had cuda cores!

@MNB730 7 лет назад

If they legit made an asian market gpu i swear i will buy it into the ground So far my asian market tech on my desk are Logitech G102, i am looking forward for an Asian Market Keyboard, and now an Asian market GPU(similiar to 1070, but really looking something around

@Society.9 7 лет назад

I don't need Vega to be more powerful than the 1080. I need to it to have higher price/performance. I also need the GPU market to calm the fuck down with these wild prices and sellers like Newegg actually sell at MSRP but that's a different story. Would be actually really cool if you did a video on that, if you haven't already.

@Alcatraz760 7 лет назад

I openly support AMD, they need to succeed more, and I think Ryzen has done a great job so far especially at pricing to the point where I recommended my friend a Ryzen CPU. But with Vega, I mean as a 970 user the performance difference doesn't seem as good given how long I waited and will instead wait for Volta.

@LucasMK95 7 лет назад

I like the fact there's starting to be a bit more competition from AMD. I know you've touched on this before in your previous videos but I hope this will start pushing the industry on more so now. Although I own a 1060, these new cards may sway me to go back to AMD again. I'd also like to hear what you think of AMD's Threadripper!

@gcur 7 лет назад

well at least they are coming back so fingers crossed for Navi...

@aviroblox6624 7 лет назад

Vega: 1080 Price, 1080 Performance, Higher than 1080 power consumption, One year after the 1080.... Am I expecting too much from AMD?

@danielswift3373 7 лет назад

I'm very happy with AMD's Ryzen lineup, but their GPUs seem a bit... lackluster I suppose. Not bad, but not what I was hoping for.

@leleedler 7 лет назад

And they were disappointing.

@edenem 7 лет назад

Nvidia and razer are jerks, They say they are 'The best money can buy!' And 'Even better than that AMD kid!'. I hate it. Corsair and radion take there time to care for there products. Metal instead of cheap plastic. freesync instead of G-sync. Anyone else with me?

@howgii7140 7 лет назад

Vega FE which seems to perform slightly better than the gtx 1080ti, is priced too much for the performance you get. This makes me wonder what Vega 64 will offer in terms of performance compared to Nvidia's cards and if it will be worth the price.

@WhoWatchesVideos 7 лет назад

It looks like Volta only needs to be a standard small increment in performance like Polaris was in order to force AMD to play catch-up again. What a bummer. We really needed Vega to knock it out of the park so that NVidia would have to pull out all the stops with Volta instead of using Intel's longevity strategy. Here's hoping that Navi brings some refinement and big performance gains to the young Vega design.

@youssefakenkar459 7 лет назад

VEGA is just a Stepping stone guys ! NAVI is the real Nvidia killer ! notice ( SCALIBILITY WORD)

@dixie_rekd9601 7 лет назад

love ur videos philip, you just show the shit how it hits the wall... you don't screw around like a lot of other games "journalists" (i know u probably dont consider yourself a games journalist, but i do..... which is much more important)

@luizarthurbrito 7 лет назад

amd cpus are currently amazing and disrupting intel. amd gpus are now at least competitive, which will keep nvidia in check for the near future. all in all, everybody gains with amd's resurgence. thank you capitalism.

@aaronf7703 7 лет назад

How do you buy the packages, either I'm retarded or they aren't for sale yet. I'm in Australia btw if that helps/explains my struggle.

@snoopyirl 7 лет назад

I had a 7950 for 4 years the drivers got better not worse to be fair their drivers are so good and the UI is so much easier then Nvidia, I have an nvide 960 gpu for my laptop and I think AMD system works better

@mrrainbow3356 7 лет назад

I will not mad about AMD because i can access to a lot of free and cheap technologies which are needed to pay extra on nvidia's side. You won't understand, i still love AMD, i admited that i'm a fanboy but that will cost nothing anyway

@GermanLehmann98 7 лет назад

Do not expect more performance from Vega than what we've see: the Draw Stream Binning Rasterizer was indeed working when they benchmarked Vega: www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-radeon-rx-vega-64-specs-availability,35112.html

@GmodArgentina 7 лет назад

Phillip i enjoy your vídeos a lot, you have talent, your vídeos are organized and keep me paying attention until the end and you make a nice a use of your voice. Please consider making things besides Counter:Strike

@TheDeadlock95 7 лет назад

I really enjoy your opinion videos on hardware. I hope you will produce them more frequently in the future

@DarkGT 7 лет назад

AMD build me a PC too , so I can be your slave in my vids.

@TheOisannNetwork 7 лет назад

I don't agree with the way you read that graph. I mean that the "2017" text is put in the middle of the year. But w/e, it's just a youtube video after all :p

@aomine6817 7 лет назад

Nvidia just give people a free game with their card. AMD is making some really shitty bundles completely not worth it.

@vincethebanana 7 лет назад

Man battlefront is such a super easy game to run though, my old computer from 7 years ago can play battlefront at max settings... kinda a waste to try to show vega on that game. Should have used a better game....

@gameguy301 7 лет назад

"no bad card only a bad price", is only true for us the consumer. If you look from the perspective of profitability for the business, both AMD and nvidia have had a their fair share of bad cards over their storied histories.